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6:01 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, pattern-matching website in answer, username similar to website in answer: Mirrored numbers by RFplus on puzzling.SE
tpu- by CalvT븃
10 second backoff on request to questions/340261?site=physics
 
@Andy again ^
 
@Undo okay, that should be good to deploy, filter errors fixed
TL;DR: never try to work with string-binary-integer conversions and expect to get it right first try
 
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on 5857c54: Your tests failed on CircleCI
 
:3
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Comparison of actual running time of algorithmic trading software by PracticalTrader on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by J F
 
6:12 PM
@SmokeDetector you had to rub it in, didn't you?
 
@ArtOfCode That's ... a lot
 
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on 65f3b46: Your tests failed on CircleCI
 
just a few
 
Whats your opinion about the 198M leak @ArtOfCode?
 
/me is glad I don't live in the US
 
J F
6:15 PM
@Magisch It’s not actually a leak though – the people who reported it seem trustworthy, and there’s no evidence AFAIK that someone else has a copy of the data.
 
Well, 16000 primes per one possibility is quite a lot
 
I'm really curious about how I've been profiled. It'd be interesting to see what the GOP thinks of me as a voter.
 
okay, breach then
 
@JF Publicly available on a sub-domain for 6 months... It's been downloaded.
 
@JF It laid unsecured on a cloud server for 6 months
 
6:16 PM
@JanDvorak Huh? How'd you come up with that?
 
It was bound to have been downloaded a couple times if only by people running port scans
cyber criminals that do that
 
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on 06b6d33: Your tests passed on CircleCI!
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on 06b6d33: Your tests passed on CircleCI!
 
@CalvT븃 I think that's the 3rd time since we re-implemented those. @Undo, it doesn't look like backoffs are a big deal. We've gotten three in the past 4-5 days.
 
2^1014 out of 2^1000 is 2^14 out of 2^0
 
@Andy They apparently have predictive modeling and factor in things like facebook and reddit accounts and polling data
 
6:19 PM
@Magisch Well... looks at social media accounts I don't have either of those.
 
Oh, wait, you interpreted my question to mean Kibits, I guess
 
Basically, if I ever get arrested, the cops are going to look for me on Facebook, not find me and assume I'm guilty of something much worse
 
@JanDvorak what's 2^1000
 
@Andy Correct
 
unless you mean the xor function rather than exponentiation, in which case you're rather low
 
6:20 PM
@ArtOfCode 1,075 x 10 ^ 301
 
...
 
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on dde9ab1: Your tests passed on CircleCI!
 
what do these numbers mean?
what do they represent?
 
2^1000 is the number of 1000-bit numbers including those with leading zeroes
 
1,075 with 301 zeroes
@ArtOfCode So one zero seven five and then 298 more zeroes
that's the number
It's the scientific notation
You display hilariously big numbers in this notation to not have to write them out
 
6:22 PM
Yeah, I can manage that much.
I did do an A-level in maths and physics.
I just don't/didn't know why that number is relevant to the question
 
Ahh
I misunderstood your question then
>_>
 
Possible spam seed?
Aaaand here's the spam
 
Yeah spam
 
@CalvT븃 Post 1: Already recently reported
tpu- by Kyll
 
!!/test igesame.com
 
> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.
 
!!/watch igesame\.com
 
@CalvT븃 You don't have code privileges, but I've created a pull request for you.
CI on ce5520e succeeded.
 
6:55 PM
!!/pull
 
Restart: API quota is 13005.
 
!!/pull
 
Restart: API quota is 12996.
 
!!/test-a igesame\.com
 
> Would not be caught as an answer.
 
6:58 PM
Huuuh?
!!/test igesame.com
 
> Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in username
----------
Title - Position 1-12: igesame.com
Body - Position 1-12: igesame.com
Username - Position 1-12: igesame.com
 
Doesn't like the regex, ok
 
7:21 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: Is a baptized but not confirmed Catholic really a Catholic? by ddddd on christianity.SE
tpu- by J F
 
7:33 PM
@Andy Yeah, noticed that. Weird.
re-ping @Undo to fix metasmoke when you get home
 
7:58 PM
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on 3d5dee1: Your tests passed on CircleCI!
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Using data given back with getJSON by Sherry on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by J F
 
J F
mmm… priestade. Is that a soda or a smoothie?
The wix spam reporter reminds me of this:
s/target's coordinates/the URL you feel is spam/ s/missile launch/spam reporter/
Wix says:
> Thank you. You complaint was submitted.
This makes me less likely to use their product in the future.
 
8:15 PM
Haha :p
 
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on 8e00abf: Your tests passed on CircleCI!
 
J F
At least it wasn’t “Thanks in advantage! You complain was submitted.”
 
8:35 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin title: Ubutu update is not working ________________ by Arefin Zamshed on askubuntu.com
fp- by J F
 
J F
o/
 
in The Sphinx's Lair, 1 min ago, by Jan Dvorak
But yeah, Charcoal would probably smack you if you forced every answer to get itself autoflagged
 
Anything exciting happen while I was gone?
 
8:43 PM
Yikes
 
J F
You can say that again.
 
@JanDvorak We'd just ignore that post
 
Does that work recursively on answers?
 
No idea, but we can ignore those too
 
Ignoring each of them separately doesn't stop them from getting autoflagged
 
J F
8:46 PM
There’s always !!/stopflagging.
 
Sorry, that was mostly-idle speculation, I don't have any plans at the moment, and would probably give a warning if I did
 
A full kill isn't a great solution - given the time for which it would have to be active
 
The 'max_rep' in findspam determines how we evaluate the post. Since the vast majority of spam is from low rep users, we have the thresholds set very low.
All this means is that Smokey trusts the more established users. If they are caught spamming, we can blacklist them and they will be dealt with by a local mod.
@Sconibulus We'd appreciate that warning. I'd also be interested in that particular puzzle :)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer: Disable comments feed, but not the others by Herdin on wordpress.SE
tpu- by J F
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body: Gnome shell launcher icon by Hajthem on askubuntu.com
fp- by NobodyNada
 
9:16 PM
This Safari extension is really awesome
I just went to a bloated webpage and disabled JavaScript just to see what would happen
The download size shrank by several times, the webpage was much faster and more responsive, and I didn't even notice anything wrong with it
So I did a quick Google search and installed that extension so I can whitelist JavaScript only on websites where it's useful
 
9:35 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: How to conference call with FaceTime audio? by Keith on apple.SE
tpu- by J F
 
J F
I just use Ghostery and AdBlock. They get most of the ads without breaking site functionality.
 
I already use AdBlock for a while, but I just found out about this
I've configured it so that when I visit a new site, it'll give me a little notification in the corner asking if I'd like to enable JS for that site.
That way, I can see if something is broken, and enable some scripts if so. It'll still block trackers and ads and such
You can also configure it so that it silently blocks trackers without blocking useful scripts
 
10:13 PM
10 second backoff on request to questions/116812;116839?site=diy
 
Why was that added back?
Jun 14 at 4:02, by Undo
I'm turning backoff warnings back on for now
Huh, looks to me like they just want to see if we're getting hit by backoffs a lot
 
J F
I wonder if it’s possible to determine which JS minifier is used based on what the shortened variable names are.
 
J F
10:37 PM
@Cerbrus That ^ Arabic(?) username seems to break the rep count display. If you put the username in a span with unicode-bidi: isolate in the CSS, the problem seems to be fixed.
 
Looks like it's because of an RTL character in that name
I wonder why it doesn't break Smokey's report though
 
J F
RTL usernames break MS @Art/@Undo.
 
RTL breaks everything
 
J F
@NobodyNada Arabic characters are naturally RTL.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Is there an electric field around neutral atoms? by mohsen lutephy on physics.SE
 
10:43 PM
@SmokeDetector f
 
J F
You’d never guess that’s 5 characters: ‭م‭ ص‭ ط‭ ف‭ ی => ‭مصطفی
 
11:12 PM
I had a hypothesis that the poor performance we're seeing there was due to Art's API queue size changes causing backoffs, but that didn't end up being it
Still, the queue size changes are suspiciously well-timed.
 
Huh
 
What else happened early April?
MS or Smokey
 
CI on b7716b0 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev b7716b0 (Undo1: Re-remove backoff messages --autopull) (running on Undo's RPi 3)
 
@ArtOfCode I looked a little bit, but not as thoroughly as I probably should have.
 
Restart: API quota is 10736.
 
11:18 PM
one theory: I started my Real job on Apr. 10th :P
 
Could it be some psychological effect related to the timings, like with the review icon on SO?
 
@NobodyNada That's a pretty marked shift, though
@ArtOfCode MS ready to go?
 
aye
My theory is that it was caused by this
actually... we can test that, by un-trusting the key for a week or so
 
Done
@ArtOfCode Apr 5 is too early, though. Unless it took me a long time to deploy it
Jun 14 at 4:00, by Andy
@Undo It looks like it's between the 9th and 10th.
 
@Undo coulda done. I don't suppose you get deploy logs?
 
11:22 PM
Could dig them up
 
Because I think how FIRE works is it only checks for deletion state when a user clicks the FIRE button, which could be multiple tens of minutes after the real deletion. If it sends a deletion log then, that skews stats heavily towards too long.
 
> Branch master (at b80bd0e2d0b5973f4fae66fa744fb6479edb06a7) deployed as release 20170405220936 by me
Deployed Apr 5
 
waffles
 
But yeah, that'd make a lot of sense
 
let's test this. I'm gonna un-trust the FIRE key for a while and hope that doesn't break it too badly.
If it does... well, it's only a checkbox.
 
11:24 PM
Might be easier to just have @Andy try regenerating without deletion logs from that key?
We have that info
 
we can try both. Is deletion log API key ID in the API?
 
yep
uhhhh maybe
It's in the data
FIRE is key 15
 
It's not available in filters, so unless we jbuilder'd it in, it's not in the API
 
Maybe it's not there, then
 
doesn't seem to be
more to the point, I don't actually know how Andy generates those graphs
 
11:27 PM
I was just thinking that :P
 
Hang on, I have a relatively recent dump. I could try manually generating a less good version of that graph, without key 15.
Wait, isn't that graph the reason the ApiController#detailed_ttd method exists?
 
Maybe?
 
No, those are hour-of-day
shrug I can generate one
 
11:41 PM
^ with key 15
 
Huh, creeping up even before Apr 9?
 
Looks like it, then relatively stable after ~2017-04-14
 
What if you filter out all where api_key_id is set?
@ArtOfCode Still need to do this?
 
@Undo your config/config.yml needs to have sensitive_fields in it.
 
kk
 
11:46 PM
Okay, with key 15 excluded, this is interesting:
 
Exploder should work now @ArtOfCode et al
 
lemme put both on one graph
 
o.O
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Why is there an iPhone in "All Eyez On Me"? by Pilgrim on movies.SE
 
Identical up to the 25th
 
11:49 PM
So that's not the issue
Nor is the queue thing
@ArtOfCode How about a plot of what percentage of tp posts have deletion logs?
 
Not the original issue, but FIRE is causing deletion times to look longer than they actually are
@Undo over time?
 
aye
Would be interesting to know if Smokey's websocket deletion monitor thing deteriorated.
 
Um
Not sure my SQL skills stand up to that
 
oh
... I'm not sure how to do that either
 
Might be possible in combined Ruby/SQL, hang on
Raw SQL query for that involves subqueries, which don't play nice with groupdate
 

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