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Wai Ha Lee

15:09

!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/43696542/1364007

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M.A.R.

LOL

Shaolin monks

What's next? Invisible ninjas?

J F

What if I don’t want to go to China to learn martial arts?

M.A.R.

@JF Doom on you

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M.A.R.

15:11

@SmokeDetector What's up with insulting the fourth close voter? If anything, I'd insult the first or the commentator

Wai Ha Lee

!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/43696261/1364007

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Wai Ha Lee

You're out of luck! :p

SmokeDetector

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quartata

@Andy OK NOW it will work

ArtOfCode

15:22

@M.A.R. 4th close voter is also an editor on that post, which is probably why

quartata

OK, I might consume like a little bit of API quota testing this NG thing here

ArtOfCode

no you won't

API quotas are per-IP

test away

quartata

I.... did not know that

I thought they were per-key?

ArtOfCode

per key and per IP

quartata

Well, OK then

ArtOfCode

15:25

oh, and you're gonna wanna do another git pull, @quartata

quartata

Last commit was mine anyways so yeah definitely

NobodyNada

\o

quartata

Ah

Did you get my ping

NobodyNada

Yeah. I've never gotten that error before; did you get it to work?

quartata

Nope

I don't know what it means since I don't know a lick of Swift

but I find it odd it occurs when linking

NobodyNada

15:36

What are the SWIFT_BUILD_FLAGS?

quartata

-Xswiftc -lwebsockets -Xswiftc -I/usr/local/opt/openssl/include -Xswiftc -I./libwebsockets/include -Xswiftc -L./libwebsockets/lib -Xlinker -lwebsockets -Xlinker -L./libwebsockets/lib

NobodyNada

Hmm

quartata

That should be right, right? It's just the same as how I'd do clang but with the appropriate -Xswiftc and -Xlinker for the different stages

NobodyNada

Yep

quartata

If it matters at all this is pre_compile:

git clone --recursive github.com/warmcat/libwebsockets libwebsockets

cd libwebsockets
../cmake/bin/cmake .
make

And this is post_compile:

mkdir /app/.firealarm
cp filter.json /app/.firealarm/filter.json

NobodyNada

15:41

Ohhhhhhhhhhh

quartata

Hm?

NobodyNada

That was fairly stupid of me

github.com/NobodyNada/Clibwebsockets/commit/…

quartata

Should I try again

NobodyNada

I'll start a Travis build, you want to wait till that's done so we know if it works?

quartata

I don't need to pull anything presumably since that's a different package

@NobodyNada Eh, sure.

I don't see it on Travis so let me know when it finishes

NobodyNada

15:46

done

quartata

All right, compiling slug

It'll take a while to upload to Heroku since I'm bundling cmake with it and that's ~100 MB

will ping you when it's done

Ashish Ahuja

also, if you don't copy blacklisted_users.json to the ~/.firealarm directory, the bot will crash because of too many errors when you start it. It shouldn't do that, but it happens

quartata

Well good thing you told me that now

I'll modify post_compile to copy that one over too

Ashish Ahuja

@quartata you also have to copy reports.json, sorry

NobodyNada

I thought I fixed that

Ashish Ahuja

15:53

@NobodyNada when felix ran it last, it wasn't fixed. Don't know after that..

quartata

Anything else?

Ashish Ahuja

@quartata don't think so

NobodyNada

location.txt and redunda_key.txt

quartata

ooh yes

Don't have a Redunda key yet but I'll copy location over

NobodyNada

@Ashish I think we should change the location.txt format so it uses a slash as the delimiter instead of the space

quartata

15:54

Does that go into .firealarm?

NobodyNada

Yep

Ashish Ahuja

you need the following format for location.txt:

@NobodyNada seems sensible

<stack exchange username no spaces><space><name of your device>

quartata

Yep did that already

Ashish Ahuja

ok, cool

@NobodyNada could you add quartata as a collaborator in Redunda?

NobodyNada

Or, maybe we could have Redunda send the location name

quartata

15:56

@AshishAhuja let me see if it runs first

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tpu- by DavidPostill on how to make an 8 by 8 playable grid in python [MS]

NobodyNada

@AshishAhuja Once he logs in there

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naa- by DavidPostill

Ashish Ahuja

@NobodyNada that's an interesting idea, though there still will be a file as I was implementing a pingonerror command felix requested, which I will complete after the refactor

quartata

What a coincidence I just thought yesterday to add pingonerror to NG

NobodyNada

15:58

@AshishAhuja That would preferably be a part of the ChatUser though, not in a separate file

Ashish Ahuja

@NobodyNada so you mean I change the format from pingonerror <true|false> to pingonerror <user> <true|false>?

NobodyNada

@AshishAhuja No; store the preference in the ChatUser

See the extension in Utilities.swift

quartata

all righty it's building

crosses fingers

Ashish Ahuja

@NobodyNada ahh, makes sense.

quartata

It compiled!

All right moment of truth

Ashish Ahuja

16:02

woot!

ArtOfCode

O.o strawberrynet gives away customer full name and address if you have the email address... no password.

NobodyNada

Yikes

quartata

Scaling dynos... !
 ▸    Couldn't find that process type.

the heck?

Ashish Ahuja

?

quartata

That means I must have done my Procfile wrong

ArtOfCode

16:04

Should we hold out for more? https://t.co/KwwFWxQ0KQ

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on April 29, 2017 at 3:04 PM

quartata

hahahahaha

Ashish Ahuja

lol

quartata

Oh woops I see the problem...

Well it's all good anyways

Since apparently during the deploy Heroku nuked .firealarm

I have to do it as part of the startup not post compile

Ashish Ahuja

huh

quartata

no biggie

Ashish Ahuja

16:07

@NobodyNada btw, your RPi just went down

NobodyNada

I've submitted a Redunda PR to include the location name in the response to the status ping

quartata

> Scaling dynos... done, now running worker at 1:Free

So let's see if this works

kaboom

>

2017-04-29T16:09:18.252402+00:00 app[worker.1]: FireAlarm: error while loading shared libraries: libwebsockets.so.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

So I take it it's dynamically linked then

Because I didn't save the libwebsockets artifacts

Actually..

No it's there

Just not in the library path

Ashish Ahuja

I have to go to bed now; see you tomorrow!

NobodyNada

o/

DavidPostill

@ArtOfCode As it happens I'm very unlikely to shop for beauty products so I don't need an account there :)

NobodyNada

16:14

@quartata Set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the directory containing the .so

quartata

That's what I'm doing now

DavidPostill

@ArtOfCode O_O

quartata

ohhh

ok

that's a nuisance

NobodyNada

?

quartata

I think the buildpack is overwriting the LD_LIBRARY_PATH when the instance starts, so I'll set it in the Procfile instead of as an environmental variable in the config panel

Ashish Ahuja

16:18

@quartata btw, you may wanna use this script for running FireAlarm to reboot during crashes (which happen normally few times a day)

now really afk

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quartata

@AshishAhuja Don't need it, Heroku will restart workers if they crash

But thanks

ArtOfCode

@QPaysTaxes cough rails

;)

J F

cough nails ;)

ArtOfCode

doesn't have database stuff yet, unfortunately

or I would have suggested it too :)

like?

@QPaysTaxes Rails supports these databases

@QPaysTaxes I have no idea what those are :)

I'm guessing by "graph" you don't mean a pretty thing with neat lines and lots of data

quartata

16:29

Graph (discrete mathematics)

In mathematics, and more specifically in graph theory, a graph is a structure amounting to a set of objects in which some pairs of the objects are in some sense "related". The objects correspond to mathematical abstractions called vertices (also called nodes or points) and each of the related pairs of vertices is called an edge (also called an arc or line). Typically, a graph is depicted in diagrammatic form as a set of dots for the vertices, joined by lines or curves for the edges. Graphs are one of the objects of study in discrete mathematics. The edges may be directed or undirected. For example...

ArtOfCode

oh that sort of graph

Ferrybig

@Cerbrus Feel free to mark that issue as a "feature request", instead of as a "bug", it depends how you look to it, since its a "feature" of browsers to show a proper error message

ArtOfCode

well it'll be interesting to see how that works with the kind of project you're proposing... I'd've thought a relational database would work better, really

webhook and user models, plus whatever else is in it

shrug

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Ferrybig

16:50

@ArtOfCode I'm not getting redirected to HTTPS, when I use curl to verify the headers, I'm not getting any Location header that redirects me.

J F

@Ferrybig HSTS is client-side. The browser is told to connect via HTTPS until the header expires.

NobodyNada

lol

Yep

I'm actually running it in the command line right now

But I will run it in Xcode

demo.ctn? I didn't get anything

tester_debug reports though:

Testing code_block...      42 succeeded.
Testing data_stack...      50 succeeded.
Testing method_map...      67 succeeded.
Testing object...          =================================================================
==17682==ERROR: AddressSanitizer: global-buffer-overflow on address 0x00010004b1e7 at pc 0x0001001772f8 bp 0x7fff5fbfef10 sp 0x7fff5fbfe6c0
READ of size 8 at 0x00010004b1e7 thread T0
    #0 0x1001772f7 in __asan_memcpy (libclang_rt.asan_osx_dynamic.dylib:x86_64h+0x4d2f7)
    #1 0x1000080b0 in ctno_literal object.c:13

What's wrong with it?

> READ of size 8 at 0x00010004b1e7

> 0x00010004b1e7 is located 0 bytes to the right of global variable [...] of size 7

I'm not sure I understand very well; how do you want it to present the information?

ArtOfCode

@Ferrybig yeah, you shouldn't get a Location header, just the Strict-Transport-Security headers

SmokeDetector

17:33

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Jan Dvorak

@QPaysTaxes SpiderMonkey :-D

You can run jQuery inside SpiderMonkey :-D

@ArtOfCode bug: when I visit charcoal-se.org, it stays there, even after ctrl+f5. Firefox

ArtOfCode

Bah, HSTS doesn't work like I thought it did.

@JanDvorak visit the HTTPS version once, and it'll record the HSTS header and send you there for future HTTP hits

Jan Dvorak

It should redirect me even if I don't visit the HTTPS site

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ArtOfCode

@JanDvorak that's not how HSTS works, apparently

Jan Dvorak

17:47

It is...

ArtOfCode

No, it's how preloaded HSTS works, but we're not important or old enough to be on browsers' default preload lists.

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tp- by DavidPostill

Jan Dvorak

Huh...

I guess you're supposed to just redirect then

ArtOfCode

aye

non-preload HSTS leaves you open to first-request MITM, but that's better than anytime MITM without HSTS

Jan Dvorak

#ban-http

ArtOfCode

17:50

no can do

Jan Dvorak

Because you'd break stuff?

ArtOfCode

can't verify yourself for SSL certs if you have no HTTP

Jan Dvorak

@ArtOfCode hm...

You can still use self-signed

ArtOfCode

@JanDvorak and nobody will trust you :)

Jan Dvorak

They shouldn't even if I use HTTP

Andy

17:52

@quartata Good news and bad news

Jan Dvorak

set up self-signed HTTPS -> get cert over self-signed HTTPS -> set up verified HTTPS

Andy

Good news! It works running daemon.py

Bad News...it runs twice:

H:\Development\SmokeDetector-ng\src>py daemon.py
Store password:
2017-04-29 12:49:49,340 -     INFO - smokey_logs  - Started via 'daemon.py'
2017-04-29 12:49:49,340 -     INFO - smokey_logs  - Started via 'daemon.py'
Store password:
2017-04-29 12:49:58,793 -    DEBUG - smokey_logs.chat - Loading rooms.json
2017-04-29 12:49:58,793 -    DEBUG - smokey_logs.chat - Loading rooms.json
2017-04-29 12:49:58,793 -    DEBUG - smokey_logs.chat -    Room loaded: {('stackexchange.com', '1')} => ['debug', 'commands']

However, it looks like it's getting rate limited, because it's only posting a single message to chat:

in Sandbox, 3 mins ago, by Zephyr

[ SmokeDetector-ng ] SmokeDetector-ng started at revision ebb64dd.

ArtOfCode

@QPaysTaxes package.json huh? pokes nails back into the potential-tech queue

Andy

Sorry for the drive by update, but I have other things to do this afternoon.

If you are interested, I'm still using my logging branch: github.com/AWegnerGitHub/SmokeDetector-ng/tree/Branch_logging

ArtOfCode

@QPaysTaxes it doesn't support any databases

but that means you can pick your own

quartata

17:59

@Andy what on earth

are you sure that's not a thing in your logging?

I can't think of a rational explanation for that

J F

18:22

@ArtOfCode Do you still have the experimental DB stuff? If so, can you push it to a branch?

ArtOfCode

@JF fraid not

I never got anywhere useful with it

Task: Find out if sqlalchemy.ForeignKey supports column references as strings instead of ORM class field references.

Option 1: Look at documentation.

Option 2: Spend 10 minutes in a console hacking with sqlalchemy's internals via inspect and reflection using trial and error.

One guess which one I picked.

Jan Dvorak

#2

ArtOfCode

of course

Andy

@quartata I doubt logging it making it run twice. It doesn't do it via entry.py. So it's something in daemon.py that does it

Removing logging from daemon and entry doesn't change anything. Still runs twice

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18:40

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ArtOfCode

@Andy norepro on current commit on master

Secret store not already open: started without daemon?
Store password:
chat.send_to_room: SmokeDetector-ng started at revision [cdff081](github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector-ng/commit/…).

Andy

run daemon.py, that's when I get it twice

ArtOfCode

@Andy still norepro

how long between messages being sent are you seeing?

0, okay. Yeah, norepro.

Andy

I'm not concerned about that right now. I'm concerned that when I run it, the very first thing it does it print the log message twice

Just a second, I'm recloning master

Same thing with a fresh clone of master. It is asking for the store password twice:

H:\Development\SmokeDetector-ng-1\src>py daemon.py
Store password:
Store password:

ArtOfCode

@Andy definitely norepro. Have you got a process hanging on from a previous run? Kill everything Python from task manager and try again, maybe?

Andy

18:53

Brand new python process running this: gist.github.com/AWegnerGitHub/863bede611ff3ea134c2d915636f050b Notice the two new print statements, one before open_store and one as you enter __main__

This is the output

H:\Development\SmokeDetector-ng-1\src>py daemon.py
Running from daemon.
Store password:
In main...
Running from daemon.
Store password:

ArtOfCode

@Andy clearly, something's running that entire file twice

what's py?

Andy

python 3

ArtOfCode

more importantly, how is it different from regular python

J F

python $@ & python $@?

Andy

5

Q: In CMD "python" starts Python 3.3, "py" starts Python 2.7, how do I change this?

Brand new Python, just getting things set up and installed before I start messing around with things. My understanding is that there are some notable differences/incompatibilities between Python 2.7 and Python 3.3, though both versions are well used, so I thought it best to install both (In their...

On my system, py is configured to start python 3.6.1

I get tired of typing python3

ArtOfCode

18:55

@Andy humour me and do it once, just to rule it out?

Andy

Do what?

ArtOfCode

python3 daemon.py

Andy

Not configured as a command

> 'python3' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

But, I could have told you that :)

ArtOfCode

H:\Python36\python.exe daemon.py then :P

Andy

Running from daemon.
Store password:
In main...
Running from daemon.
Store password:

Same

J F

19:01

Try putting import pdb; pdb.set_trace at the top of daemon.py and debugging.

ArtOfCode

okay... what's the output of H:\Python36\python.exe -m pip show python-daemon

Andy

@ArtOfCode Nothing

quartata

The only thing I can think of is a bug in Process.join

Actually not even that

secrets wouldn't reopen

ArtOfCode

...I have a hunch. @quartata what's python3 --version for you?

quartata

I usually run it with 3.5

But I'm pretty sure it works on 3.6, that's what Thomas uses

ArtOfCode

19:14

Maybe not

quartata

What exactly is your hunch

ArtOfCode

@Andy do you have 3.5 on your machine?

Andy

Store password:
Exception ignored in: <generator object _installed_safely.__exit__.<locals>.<genexpr> at 0x0000028AFD51EF68>
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 307, in <genexpr>
SystemError: error return without exception set
Exception ignored in: <generator object _installed_safely.__exit__.<locals>.<genexpr> at 0x0000028AFD51EC50>
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 307, in <genexpr>
SystemError: error return without exception set

@JF ^

@ArtOfCode No. :\

ArtOfCode

@Andy any 3 below 3.6, that is

quartata

@ArtOfCode oh ffs

Andy

19:15

Nope. I have 2.7.something and 3.6

ArtOfCode

@Andy Okay. Hunch: name collision with 3.6 secrets module. What happens if you rename src/secrets.py to src/ng_secrets.py, and s/import secrets/import ng_secrets as secrets/g?

Andy

Same

I'm sorry. I have to run. Naptime seems to have ended early today. So...I have little people to entertain

ArtOfCode

Heh. Enjoy :P

quartata

Can someone else repro

ArtOfCode

might be able to if I was on WIndows with 3.6, but... I'm on Ubuntu with 3.5 at the moment, so no

quartata

19:25

Compromise: Ubuntu on 3.6?

ArtOfCode

don't have 3.6 available

and can't be bothered to figure out how to install it

quartata

launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/ubuntu/deadsnakes

@ArtOfCode

ArtOfCode

effort

quartata

Oh come on it's three commands and I'm on mobile

My curiosity will eat me alive

ArtOfCode

> As an exception, pure-Python modules for Python 3 will work, but any compiled extension modules won't.

that sounds like a kinda serious limitation there

quartata

19:30

That's compiled extensions in the repo i.e compiled against Ubuntu's Python

Not things from pip

ArtOfCode

yeah, I know

but given that the majority of software is gonna be compiled against an official version like the ubuntu version... yeah

quartata

It won't

pip compiles your own wheels

ArtOfCode

the majority of pre-compiled software

quartata

Every time you've installed say regex it's built it for you

ArtOfCode

I'm not worried about pip

I'm looking at official versions

quartata

19:32

Pip is the only place NG has dependencies

ArtOfCode

and I'm not worried about only NG, either

quartata

And this won't destroy your old install

ArtOfCode

if I'm installing an entirely new interpreter, I want it to work for things other than NG

quartata

Just use update-alternatives

ArtOfCode

I'm gonna see if I can get an official version.

quartata

19:33

Well unless it's from the Ubuntu repo it won't work

Not in the way you're describing that is

ArtOfCode

no, it's a source download from the Python site :P

quartata

Anything pre-compiled in the Ubuntu repos will be compiled against the latest Python Ubuntu provides

ArtOfCode

I'll look at it if this fails, but I'm not abandoning this now that I'm halfway through building it.

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ArtOfCode

I'm pretty sure that's spam, but I'm not gonna flag it

Undo

19:39

!!/addblu- superuser.com/users/681799/user681799

quartata

sd k

DavidPostill

@Undo Hmm. He hasn't spammed SU (yet).

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