Charcoal HQ

unarist

10:02

Hmm, MS says me "You need to authenticate for write access first; you can do that here.", but /authentication/status doesn't mention about write access.

Magisch

@unarist Are you a flagger on metasmoke?

unarist

@Magisch No, I am only reviewer.

Magisch

@unarist You need to be flagger to use the autoflag thingy

I'm not sure how you get that

could be from installing & using FDSC

angussidney

It's another privilige level which is given out to regulars to Charcoal HQ/code contributors

ArtOfCode

^

unarist

10:04

Actually, I'm not going to participate autoflagging. I'm interested in "write access".

ArtOfCode

All permissions (except reviewer, which new accounts start with) are applied manually

@unarist we don't use write access for anything else, so there's kinda not much point.

DavidPostill

@Undo @ArtOfCode random it may be, but I haven't cast any autoflags yet (unless metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/flagging is broken). What gives?

angussidney

^^

ArtOfCode

@DavidPostill your preferences don't specify any sites

fixed

angussidney

Wow, my account already has 12 flags done automatically

SmokeDetector

10:08

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: So, what we decide upon in lots of those by user7429765 on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by tripleee

ArtOfCode

@angussidney they add up quickly

I've already had over 1000 autoflags on my account...

DavidPostill

@ArtOfCode Ah. Missed that. I selected all the sites in conditions but not prefs. Thanks for fixing.

ArtOfCode

No worries. Ideally we'd simplify the whole thing, but there's not really an easy way to do that

angussidney

Maybe default to max 80 flags per site on all sites if no preferences are set?

ArtOfCode

@angussidney Hm... Possibly, but that feels like making a decision that only the account owner is qualified to make

angussidney

10:12

Also, do we do a mod check before flagging?

It might be a good idea to do that rather than relying on people to set up their preferences right

Magisch

@ArtOfCode did you see the issue I filed on GH?

ArtOfCode

@angussidney We don't, at the moment

tripleee

what if it were dynamic, so that you could only get flags cast on sites where you have manually flagged X amount of spam?

ArtOfCode

probably somewhere in the wave of notifications I had this morning @Mag :)

angussidney

@tripleee Now we're getting complicated

Magisch

10:14

It was about using auto flags from currently inactive users first

ArtOfCode

@tripleee [status:not-currently-possible]. The SE API doesn't have a route for getting past flag data.

Magisch

so that the active users can always still manually flag (while they're active)

angussidney

@ArtOfCode well, we could use feedbacks

Magisch

So that if Me, triplee and you are active in the room atm it wont use autoflags from me triplee and you unless no others are available

so we can always manually flag

ArtOfCode

@Magisch Yep, I did see that. Not sure how possible it is, but it's a decent idea

Magisch

10:15

and the "visiting a question to see a robot has already cast my flag" effect is mitigated.

@ArtOfCode A quick and dirty fix would be based on feedback

So the person who hasn't given feedback the longest gets autoflag used first

since we're mostly using FDSC, feedback is a fine indicator of current activity.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: that you can do for your appearance by user71733 on drupal.stackexchange.com

ArtOfCode

@Magisch abuse case: never feed back on anything, get all the autoflags.

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Magisch

angussidney

@ArtOfCode autoflagging counts as activity

Magisch

@ArtOfCode make autoflagging count as activity too

so it cycles between the inactive users

SmokeDetector

10:17

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: hl slim pro Martha – Simply confusing! by Oneingon on apple.stackexchange.com

Magisch

Also I doubt we'd have many people that are regulars here attempting to exploit this for free flags

SmokeDetector

tpu- by tripleee

Magisch

which only culminate in a gold badge at a community you never post anything in

ArtOfCode

@Magisch sure, but it's always good to think about the abuse cases

Magisch

yeah

SmokeDetector

10:20

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: ak garcinia slim weight loss Brands by joye wash on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com

tpu- by tripleee

angussidney

Should we remove the flag conditions sandbox now that you can use the preview button on the real thing?

ArtOfCode

I'll have to test some things out when I have a Ruby console and a dump in front of me.

@angussidney nah, might as well stay there. Open it up to :reviewer role if you like, though.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: began growing older, my body started by erry juriyam on drupal.stackexchange.com

ArtOfCode

@SmokeDetector autoflagged

SmokeDetector

@ArtOfCode That post was automatically flagged, using flags from: ArtOfCode.

tpu- by tripleee

ArtOfCode

10:22

Heh

Magisch

@art I wonder why you guys created the flagger role to begin with

angussidney

19 mins ago, by angussidney

It's another privilige level which is given out to regulars to Charcoal HQ/code contributors

Magisch

Our system pretty much prohibits misuse of the auto flagging anyways (with the min accuracy and whatnot) so why are we excluding reviewers from participating?

arda

the autoflag doesn't run on mod accounts' main sites, right?

ArtOfCode

@Magisch so we can limit who gets access to autoflags. New accounts start out with the Reviewer role, so if we use that then once we post on meta we'll have a million meta users signing up just to get free flags.

angussidney

10:24

@arda you have to manually disable it in flag preferences

ArtOfCode

@arda they've gotta manually deselect them

arda

(iirc that autodestroys the post)

Magisch

@ArtOfCode isn't giving out reviewer manual too?

Or do you mean you'll have people feign interest in the project just to harvest free flags?

ArtOfCode

@Magisch Nope, new accounts start off with it. Used to be manual, now it's automatic. We can still take it away, if we need to, but the majority of new signups have no reason not to have it.

angussidney

@Magisch yes, but there is a difference between 'people we want to be able to feedback' and 'people who we want to be able to profit off our work'

ArtOfCode

10:25

@Magisch basically this. We post on meta, a bunch of meta users go "I want free flags, I'm going to go sign up for them." Without the Flagger role, we can't control that.

Magisch

mhm

ArtOfCode

We wanted to limit it down to people who actually deserve to get something back out of this because they've put something into it. So, Flagger.

Magisch

maybe I'm underestimating how shitty people can be but I don't see helpful flags as profit

since the most you'll ever get from them is a badge

ArtOfCode

@Magisch people will take any chance to boost their stats

angussidney

@ArtOfCode I haven't gotten that far into the tutorial yet, but I'll make a guess that I have to remove github.com/Charcoal-SE/metasmoke/blob/master/app/controllers/… ?

Glorfindel

10:26

There are people who do everything for a shiny badge.

angussidney

@Magisch why do you think there is such things as robo reviewers?

ArtOfCode

@angussidney that'd open it up to everyone, which isn't quite what we want.

Magisch

@angussidney point taken I guess

sigh

ArtOfCode

The :verify_flagger callback is in application_controller.rb, FYI. You're probably gonna need to create a :verify_reviewer method in there, then change the before_action in FlagConditionsController to point at that instead

Magisch

Something else

I wonder if we should treat manually reported question like they have 1 TP feedback from the reporter right away

since anyone'd only ever report something they'd also TP feedback

and reporting is on the same privilege level

arda

10:30

I can help with autoflags if you want.

I wasn't too active on chat and flags from here, due to me being busy lately, but I feel like this is a great way to help.

angussidney

Well I'd be willing to let you, you have popped in from time to time and flagged stuff and I know you don't only want to get free flags

(either that or I'm biased because you're a fellow Arqade user)

But I'll leave it to @art on that one

arda

I couldn't care less about flag count tbh

angussidney

@Magisch the idea is that you shouldn't give feedback to your own report, it's just that we haven't really coded smokey to reject that sort of feedback :P

Magisch

I guess, but doesn't feedback say "Someone we trust thought this was spam"

arda

However, I understand that you might not want to let me, due to my lack of regular action. Up to you, I guess.

angussidney

10:34

After all, sometimes non-regulars pop in and report NAAs (which they don't know shouldn't be reported), and we don't want an auto-tpu feedback on that

Magisch

And doesnt reporting a post say the same?

Glorfindel

@angussidney exactly that.

Magisch

@angussidney Feedback can be invalidated

angussidney

@Magisch yes, but we don't want to have to do it when the feedback shouldn't be there in the first place

tripleee

@Magisch this seems to be a recurring topic, didn't we talk this over, like, yesterday? or was it last week?

Magisch

10:35

I was more thinking about manually reported posts showing up in MS review

Glorfindel

They already do.

Magisch

@tripleee I don't recall talking about this in the past

maybe, but it probably was a while ago

ArtOfCode

@arda I was gonna say "leave it at regulars because otherwise it's arbitrary", and then I realised it's pretty arbitrary anyway and we don't have to manage that like SE moderation does. You're in :)

Glorfindel

@tripleee no more than two weeks. I recall it as well.

Magisch

was I in on that discussion

because I dont remember it

Glorfindel

10:36

well, probably not, then :P

ArtOfCode

general rule is tl;dr: have the admins had coffee this morning

tripleee

here, Jan 12 chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/11540?m=34726390#34726390

where ironically the first response is "we have had this discussion before"

ArtOfCode

We've had it many, many times. AFAIK it usually comes out the same: "reworking Smokey and/or metasmoke to block this isn't worth it"

tripleee

@ArtOfCode what if there was a threshold for participation which required, say, 50 pieces of feedback to metasmoke?

2

Magisch

if someone told me a year and 2 months ago that I'd be spending 10+ hours a week flagging spam on a Q/A network and fretting over spam statistics and how to prevent it I'd have called them nuts

but squashing spam is strangely addictive and satisfying

ArtOfCode

10:38

@tripleee that could work

Glorfindel

@ArtOfCode can you put [status-declined] on that somewhere? :)

ArtOfCode

@Glorfindel [status-declined] there you go

Glorfindel

thanks.

angussidney

@Magisch ikr

Glorfindel

@tripleee good idea. This is even something that MS can check itself while you're trying to sign up for autoflagging.

angussidney

10:41

@art does rails server update it's server to use the new code automatically when you save new code or does it require a restart

tripleee

it raises the bar for those who "just want to contribute their flags" but it doesn't look like volunteers with flags to spare is a resource we are short on

ArtOfCode

@angussidney in dev environment, it updates automatically on most things

in prod, restart for everything

angussidney

@ArtOfCode awesome, just like django

Mark Yisri

@Magisch I agree. It's nice to flag people (when they deserve it).

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in username: What is whataspp backup mechaism by babaji on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

Mark Yisri

10:49

False positive?

Even if it is a bad question?

Glorfindel

Yes.

But don't bother, it already has 3 fps.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, no whitespace in body: How do i select only one data and show? by Ben Sin on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

Glorfindel

@SmokeDetector v

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body: wellnessfeeds.com/alpha-prime-elite/ by Paul Faust on workplace.stackexchange.com

tpu- by tripleee

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Have Fun Weight Lifting With These Great Tips by No2 Power Blast on security.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

angussidney

@ArtOfCode github.com/Charcoal-SE/metasmoke/pull/66 for your review, I've tested it locally and it seems to work, hopefully I didn't stuff up somewhere :)

Mark Yisri

10:56

-3

Q: What is whatsapp backup mechanism

Does anybody know how does whatsapp backup its data in Google Drive backup tab? Whatsapp backup is visible in Backup tab in Google Drive. The closest thing I found was Auto Backup in android. But its size limit is 25MB and its above API 23. But whatsap backup also works in beolow API 23 devices ...

what do I flag as?

Glorfindel

@MarkYisri that's more a SOCVR question.

Magisch

nothing

just close it

in fact, it's been closed already

and it's at -4 so either OP shapes it up and gets it reopened or the roomba will consume it soon

Mark Yisri

@Glorfindel I see

@Magisch thx

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Zyntix is the only genuine one pure male enhancement by user84289 on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

Mark Yisri

I'm getting tired of Zyntix

ArtOfCode

11:02

merged @angus

angussidney

Yup, saw it a second ago

@undo awaiting deploy

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body: Weight Loss Do Calories Really Matter by leslirhnkine on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

tpu- by angussidney

tripleee

@MarkYisri flagging their posts as spam is clearly not deterring them so alternative approaches would perhaps be called for

I've been meaning to do some network analysis to figure out who their hosting provider is

if somebody would like to participate, my answer to meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/332633/… has the blueprint (just a different spammer)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body, blacklisted user: x4up.org/ak-garcinia-slim/ by NewCanaan on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

angussidney

@tripleee FYI art made a program called Ash a while ago which tracked down the hosting provider and domain provider etc

SmokeDetector

11:05

tpu- by tripleee

Mark Yisri

@tripleee love the picture on your user profile description

angussidney

github.com/Charcoal-SE/Ash

tripleee

@MarkYisri hee hee, not mine unfortunately

@angussidney is the database available somewhere?

angussidney

@tripleee no, you'd have to ask @art for a dump

Also, he made AshBot to fill the database based on MS data, so ask for that too I suggest

tripleee

@ArtOfCode ^ is there a way for me to get access to your Ash database?

ArtOfCode

11:09

probably

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Growth pills have biogenic xr by noi hoiu on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by tripleee

Mark Yisri

@tripleee @angussidney @ArtOfCode isn't that information kept by the website? You know, finding the hosting provider of google.com

angussidney

There is a service called whois which you can use to look up all their details

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: fornatgaex.com/clarity-loeil/ by user84282 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

tripleee

@angussidney whois is only part of the story, you want DNS too

part of the reason I wanted to look at the database is that I imagine we could want to expand the number of things we look up and store

whois is frequently out of date when it comes to the DNS hosting and very frequently anonymized by a friendly proxy service so the details you can get out of there are often very close to zero when it comes to industrial-scale spammers

@MarkYisri (Google is of course big enough to be their own upstream)

angussidney

11:16

Yeah, true

tripleee

collecting the data into a database is sometimes futile because some zombie networks use fast flux, the IP address changes every minute or every hour and depends on who you are and when you ask

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Dark Ant Enhancement That Is Man by ordeegory on apple.stackexchange.com

tpu- by tripleee

tripleee

in the Meta post I used passive DNS to see what else is hosted on the same IP address, which in that case was moderately useful

there is no straightforward way to ask "given an IP address, which web sites are hosted there" from whois or DNS etc, but passive DNS works by keeping a database of DNS queries and their results to produce a mapping

spammers also use redirects a lot, so you can have hundreds of superficially different sites which end up driving traffic to a single destination

and this pharma spammer seems to be doing that on a grand scale, the sites I looked at manually were all at different IP addresses all over the place

Mark Yisri

how long has this been happening?

tripleee

@MarkYisri spam on an industrial scale? since 1995 approx

ArtOfCode

11:20

@tripleee drive.google.com/file/d/0B0xRBj17XkNmVVBXeDJqOEVSUXM/…

Mark Yisri

I mean on Charcoal's stuff

tripleee

@ArtOfCode thanks, gotcha

ArtOfCode

.tar.gz of the websites, registrars, teches, and admins tables. Registrars, techs, and admins came from whois. The table's called teches because Rails failed at pluralizing.

tripleee

@MarkYisri still not clear which aspect you are asking about. the pharma spammer has been here for longer than we have metasmoke data, I believe, so a few years

Mark Yisri

Yes I meant the Pharma spammer

tripleee

11:23

@ArtOfCode so you basically have a table of web sites and for each, the whois tech and admin records, and the whois registrar?

that's not going to work on a greater scale, many whois providers have a different schema so there is no easy way to unify into the schema you have

ArtOfCode

@tripleee dead on

@tripleee ah, but there is. I had a bot that did the whois scraping and schema-wrangling

tripleee

@ArtOfCode well yeah, in theory you could have a separate code path for each schema but you'd have to have hundreds

there are a few commercial whois aggregator services who do a decent job but their data costs money and still isn't perfect

and with the anonymizing services used by many spammers, the only useful piece of data is the registrar, which often isn't a useful discriminant

but if you would be prepared to include DNS analysis, I think this could be a useful system

ArtOfCode

@tripleee I dunno, what I had seemed to work pretty well

lemme see if the server will boot

Mark Yisri

Trying to run Smokedetector, getting this error:]

ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'users'

from ChatExchange

tripleee

@MarkYisri are you trying to run it under Python 3 by any chance?

Mark Yisri

11:29

nope, running it as python2.7

tripleee

the precise command and a traceback would probably be useful

as elsewhere on Stack, indent by four spaces to get it formatted as code

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Max Test Ultra: Improve Your Exercises! Order Currently? by fit180 on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by tripleee

ArtOfCode

artofcode.co.uk:8800 @trip

Mark Yisri

  File "ws.py", line 52, in <module>
    GlobalVars.smokeDetector_user_id[GlobalVars.meta_tavern_room_id] = str(GlobalVars.wrapm.get_me().id)

  File "/home/ubuntu/workspace/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/client.py", line 127, in get_me
    assert self._br.user_id is not None

  File "/home/ubuntu/workspace/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/_utils.py", line 104, in __get__
    method()

  File "/home/ubuntu/workspace/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/browser.py", line 241, in _update_chat_fkey_and_user

This is more to do with ChatExchange, as it sprodacially appears when running my robot, CoyoteBot, as well

tripleee

@ArtOfCode you only support a single name server? each site should usually have at least two

and the information from whois is not authoritative, you should look up the NS record from DNS instead

ArtOfCode

11:32

@tripleee sure, but they'll just be ns.registrar.com and ns2.registrar.com

tripleee

@ArtOfCode nope, for eleyluminoushelps.com for example it's reza and lloyd

vnix$ host -t ns eyeluminoushelps.com
eyeluminoushelps.com name server lloyd.ns.cloudflare.com.
eyeluminoushelps.com name server reza.ns.cloudflare.com.

ArtOfCode

@tripleee cloudflare. If you've got one, does the other really matter? They're pretty much only there so you can tell who the registrar/host is

angussidney

FR for smokey: allow us to disable chat reports in rooms other than CHQ for when you want to run it for testing purposes

(Can't make GH issue ATM)

tripleee

@ArtOfCode on old whois records, they will point to the DNS host which was current when the domain was registered, they could have hopped providers since then

Mark Yisri

any ideas on the error?

tripleee

11:34

hosting and registrar are completely separate concepts

Mark Yisri

Undo html5lib requirement and just mark Python 2.6 as an allowed failure

from chatexchange git

i'm using 2.7

is this a problem?

tripleee

@MarkYisri looks weirdly familiar but not immediately, no ... I'm guessing something in your configuration has the wrong format?

@MarkYisri no, I don't think so

Mark Yisri

[Config]
location=markyi370/Kidde

# Set the location for metasmoke here if you're running it. See github.com/Charcoal-SE/metasmoke.
# metasmoke_host=metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com
# metasmoke_ws_host=wss://metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/cable

# Set metasmoke_key if Smokey isn't running on the same machine (localhost)
# that metasmoke is
# metasmoke_key=gibberish_here

# Set GitHub keys
# [email protected]
# github_password=p@55w0rd

any problems with that?

tripleee

@MarkYisri I don't think so

Restart: API quota is 9999.

and you are running with your Stack Overflow account?

^ that was me starting my own instance under my personal account

Mark Yisri

I will try under my account, but it is OpenID

I think CoyoteBot is standard

tripleee

11:41

my speculation is that you typed in an invalid account name when you started it up, but I don't know

Mark Yisri

did not log in at all when i used mine

ArtOfCode

CE only supports Stack Exchange OpenID logins

Mark Yisri

2017-01-17 11:41:04.252508 UTC
  File "ws.py", line 48, in <module>
    GlobalVars.wrap.login(username, password)

  File "/home/ubuntu/workspace/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/client.py", line 138, in login
    self._br.login_se_openid(email, password)

  File "/home/ubuntu/workspace/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/browser.py", line 154, in login_se_openid
    "failed to get `usr` cookie from Stack Exchange OpenID")

using my account did not work

tripleee

that looks more like what I am getting if I don't type in my user name correctly

Mark Yisri

CoyoteBot's got a little farther, down to the previous error

ArtOfCode

11:42

"failed to get usr cookie" is an incorrect username/password error

"invalid literal for int()" is a common CE error, but I have yet to figure out the cause or solutions

tripleee

the user name probably isn't MarkYisri but whatever you type in when you login to Stack Overflow

Mark Yisri

Yeah, it's my email

looks like it's splitting the string in the wrong place

@ArtOfCode

ArtOfCode

@MarkYisri yeah, it is, but why is the question, and what can be done to fix it

Mark Yisri

should I try fetching ChatExchange6

tripleee

@MarkYisri the git submodule init way worked for me, how did you set it up?

Mark Yisri

11:44

the exact same as you guys, with the exception that I additionally did this:

158

A: Python.h missing from Ubuntu 12.04

This should do it: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install python-dev -y It will install any missing headers. It helped me a lot.

that command ^^^

did I do something wrong?

ArtOfCode

probably, but I don't know what :)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: Beauty cream crepe scam by Cokser Ropter on drupal.stackexchange.com

tpu- by tripleee

Magisch

Art is the python guru

Mark Yisri

@ArtOfCode added debug:

Magisch

well

Mark Yisri

11:47

@staticmethod
def user_id_and_name_from_link(link_soup):
    user_name = link_soup.text
    print("link soup " + link_soup['href'].split('/')[-2]);
    user_id = int(link_soup['href'].split('/')[-2])
    return user_id, user_name

Magisch

the python guy

Mark Yisri

link soup 242089
link soup users

it gets called twice

one time is wrong

tripleee

that's a good diagnostic, can you figure out who the caller is without triggering a traceback?

for quick hacking I usually just run the test suite so I don't have a ton of experience of actually running the chat parts

Mark Yisri

@tripleee

  File "/home/ubuntu/workspace/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/browser.py", line 224, in _load_user
    user_id, user_name = self.user_id_and_name_from_link(user_link_soup)

tripleee

what's in link_soup['href']?

Mark Yisri

11:53

@tripleee first time: /users/242089/coyotebot

second time:

http://meta.stackexchange.com/users/login?returnurl=http%3a%2f%2fchat.meta.stac‌kexchange.com%2fchats%2fjoin%2ffavorite

the second time might be a SE login problem

tripleee

the second URL looks like the kind you get on many sites when you have successfully logged in

Mark Yisri

so why then is it causing a failure? SE changed?

tripleee

I'm vaguely guessing there is a redirect which gets triggered under some conditions

Mark Yisri

who should I contact?

to find out?

tripleee

but if it worked the first time, maybe you can just hack the code to not call that function again

if you can solve this, a Pull Request would probably be a good next step

Mark Yisri

11:57

No I think I know why

tripleee

if the redirect gets triggered because of something in the preferences on your account, chances are we others don't have that setting and so can't repro

Mark Yisri

CoyoteBot has never been run on SE before... only AU

so it wants me to "create an account on this site and link"

tripleee

sounds like a plausible explanation

Mark Yisri

i will log out and perform the neccessary housekeeping

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: The condition guarantees alpha prime elite by user62983 on workplace.stackexchange.com

tpu- by tripleee

CoyoteBot

12:00

can it talk?

yes it can

okay logging out, Mark back in a minute

Mark Yisri

nope, didn't help

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How to judge a budget hotel's safety standards? by raji on travel.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

Mark Yisri

now what should I try?

Glorfindel

Can you try starting it with your own account?

(Just an idea - I have never run Smokey myself)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Windows 10 "Enable NTFS long paths policy" option missing by sophia mia on superuser.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

ArtOfCode

12:06

There may, just, be some weirdness around the fact that your bot's chat parent profile doesn't exist.

Mark Yisri

what ????

@ArtOfCode please explain

ArtOfCode

"CoyoteBot: user profile on askubuntu.com"

404 Not Found. It's been deleted.

Mark Yisri

ah ha, I'll have to fix that

I cheated on votes (public admission of wrongdoing) and got my bot's account deleted. Guess I hadn't recreated it yet. I'll check that

ArtOfCode

parent profile is fixed

Mark Yisri

good

didn't help

still the same error

but I have to do schoolwork now, so will have to come back later

bye

ArtOfCode

12:13

there's also the fact that it's suspended (for some reason) and that it doesn't have enough rep to chat

DavidPostill

!!/report superuser.com/a/1163645/337631

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to record webex presentation with video and audio? by jeffcard on superuser.com

DavidPostill

^^^ read the comments

SmokeDetector

tpu- by tripleee

tripleee

@ArtOfCode those would seem like significant problems

Glorfindel

12:16

!!/blacklist-website acethinker\.com

SmokeDetector

@Glorfindel Blacklisted acethinker\.com

CI on c671648 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

Restart: API quota is 6701.

Mark Yisri

@ArtOfCode it's suspended? don't see that

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: How to hack the virtual table? by user7430349 on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by tripleee

Mark Yisri

@ArtOfCode or @Undo can you nuke CoyoteBot's account please?

ArtOfCode

@MarkYisri nuke it? Why?

SmokeDetector

12:21

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: that is just tap the connection underneath. (To purchase, it is critical to by kermanjuriya on security.stackexchange.com

Glorfindel

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Is writing short proofs inline bad form? by Arthur on academia.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: For weight HL Slim Pro is for the most part by weconukutu on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, blacklisted user: Motivation and support HL Slim Pro by weconukutu on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Mac mail previous recipients to outlook recent addresses auto-complete migration by Captain Ashish on superuser.com

tpu- by tripleee

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: HL Slim Pro The use of a clove of garlic by user7430459 on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: HL Slim Pro things brands by joye1993 on apple.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Floern

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: www.7supplements.org/biocilium/ by user84296 on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin answer: How to send mail with a Subject using a Mailto URL? by محمد محمد on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: After he pointed me in the right bearing by Varty1941 on workplace.stackexchange.com

tpu- by tripleee

naa- by tripleee on How to send mail with a Subject using a Mailto URL? [MS]

tpu- by Glorfindel on How to send mail with a Subject using a Mailto URL? [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Shortened URL in body: How redirect http to https by a deleted user on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

fp- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: newsupplements2017.com/t5-pro-max/ by T5 Pro Max on webmasters.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: i am sharing best HL Slim Pr by joye wash5 on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com

Glorfindel

13:07

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Google search results contains rectangles by ahmed on webapps.stackexchange.com

naa- by Glorfindel

tpu- by DavidPostill

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: HL Slim Pro Reviews - Get Free Trial Here by user62990 on workplace.stackexchange.com

tpu- by tripleee

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body: Those who be afflicted by premature wrinkles Skin Opulent? by IsabellaAureole on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com

tpu- by tripleee

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: newsupplements2017.com/t5-pro-max/ by Pro Max on apple.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Floern

SmokeDetector

13:41

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Moving my Outlook 2003 archive from one laptop to another by Jane Smith on serverfault.com

tpu- by tripleee

SmokeDetector

13:56

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: A bizarre slot machine by millzzz on puzzling.stackexchange.com

naa- by Magisch

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: newsupplements2017.com/t5-pro-max/ by Pro Max on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Floern

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