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11:00 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Enlarge your Test x 360 levels like by user83965 on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
 
It's hard to click these links when my mouse won't click...
 
should we make them cheese-grated?
 
Nah, let's let mice grate again
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: quicksupplementfact.com/rejuvonus/ by tworn char on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: git pushes with wrong user from terminal by Edward Mudaida on stackoverflow.com
fp- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Alpha Monster Advanced Make sure that by DavidFoy on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by tripleee
 
11:29 AM
@tripleee no, the idea of this room is to keep an entire track record, and once you think about it, when you remove all the 'sd k's and all other related content to smokey reports, the room becomes pretty damn empty
 
so then how about a separate room where the handled reports are deleted or moved away so we can see what's unhandled?
 
@angussidney It's not about this room
But a separate chat
 
or some other mechanism to figure out how to avoid lots of 404s
 
You can't delete after two minutes, just move to the trash.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: quicksupplementfact.com/rejuvonus/ by madearkagod on apple.stackexchange.com
 
11:32 AM
room owners can move, and I guess with mod privileges at least you can delete
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
What if we grab a chat userscript that checks the question status against metasmoke and strikes the deleted ones?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: It keeps up solid diabazole by user641455 on askubuntu.com
 
if metasmoke had a way to show unhandled reports then I guess that would solve the problem just as well
 
11:33 AM
@tripleee A room owner Smokey can move too, no?
 
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@tripleee If the sole reason of doing that is to help indicate which reports are deleted, then there is better ways of dealing with that problem
 
@M.A.R. I'm imagining so
 
For instance, I'd really like to see github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/issues/226 implemented
 
@angussidney yeah, definitely
 
11:39 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body, bad keyword with email in title: Wordpress Divi Builder contact form only accepts emails with @gmail.com by David SS on stackoverflow.com
fp- by Glorfindel
 
cv-pls though
 
I can agree that hitting the 404s is annoying sometimes, but having a complete transcript of all messages in here certainly has its uses
 
@angussidney I'm not contesting that, just frustrated that spam gets deleted too quickly (-:
 
@tripleee you could adjust your sleep schedule to better complement this room's waking hours :-D
 
are you volunteering to hire the rest of my family so you can adjust their sleep schedules, too?
 
11:44 AM
@tripleee tell me about it, I've been up to 4 am every night with sick teenagers and high temperatures
 
'@triplee, why are you waking up at 2am in the morning and going to sleep at 4pm?' 'Oh, just so I can flag some spam on the internet and hopefully get some imaginary internet points'
 
@angussidney and you don't even get points for flagging ...
 
@angussidney hey don't knock imaginary internet points, they keep us going lol
 
We don't award rep for flagging, unfortunately
 
That wouldn't even be "fair", now that we're autoflagging.
Depending on your definition of "fair" - playing the devil's advocate here.
 
11:50 AM
@Glorfindel That reminds me of Harvey Dent's quote
 
Cmon, don't let realism get in the way of a good joke :)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: thing I may need to stake by isabeljamie on apple.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
That domain name is adorable
 
@JanDvorak Yeah, apple.stackexchange is cute
 
I meant "top ten side effects"
 
11:54 AM
I know, just monkeying around
 
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: top10sideeffects.com/diabazole/ by Kned1979 on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: cruelty-free, and hormone-free lash conditioning serum by illiams juriya on drupal.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Example of Properties vs. Methods in JS by Spboii99 on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
GD spam seems to be deleted much faster than I can even click it
Busy mod?
 
@M.A.R. that's a welcome change, it used to linger longer than many others
 
@tripleee Well I'm not gonna complain because spam is deleted fast :)
Only jokingly maybe
And 30 percent mean it
OK, you win. 40 percent.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to store variables in arraylist in python by culkid28 on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
naa- by tripleee
 
12:07 PM
Should Metasmoke count "manually reported through FDSC" as a TPU feedback? If so, is that a metasmoke FR, or an FDSC one?
 
We've had that discussion before. The idea was that you need another user to provide feedback on a post you reported.
Of course, you can still (via a reply to the report, or via the Review tab in MS) provide feedback yourself.
 
I think it's also slightly disturbing that you can provide that feedback yourself by the current mechanism
so in some ways it would make more sense to count that as "implicit tp-"
granted, sometimes it would be useful to be able to say "I have no opinion, but I'd like to hear yours"
but then just posting a link here would achieve that
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How do you design object oriented projects? by user7334838 on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector fp
 
@tripleee Registered answer as false positive.
 
12:15 PM
@SmokeDetector k
 
Nope. It's copied from another answer + the link.
 
oops, my bad
 
@SmokeDetector fixed
 
12:16 PM
Yeah, this one was hard to spot. I must admit I almost hit the FP button myself.
 
I visited the linked web site and concluded that it was spam after all
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body: The stay as particular scars over the by arsalancake on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How do you make an anchor link non-clickable or disabled? by Ranjith on stackoverflow.com
naa- by Glorfindel
tpu- by tripleee
 
looks like a thinly veiled and very clunky referral to the guy's blog
can I change the description of a heuristic rule or does that cause metasmoke to lose its identity?
 
@tripleee yeah, that's right.
 
12:24 PM
IDK about MS.
 
fp- by Glorfindel
 
@SmokeDetector but it will certainly earn today's wall of text diagnostic messages award.
 
@Glorfindel oops, sorry (-:
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: Troubles with distutils by João Pedro on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: when you sit amidst your goliath included by Thistrank on askubuntu.com
 
@SmokeDetector tp-
 
12:27 PM
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: supplementlab.org/alpha-monster-advanced/ by momibadriga on askubuntu.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Kies/ Smart Switch data transfer by marky chui on android.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: www.drhelpnutrition.org/zyntix/ by Supothis58 on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: 1. e4 with backup plan by user12225 on chess.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
 
1:01 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: f zyntix, and is re by user219640 on apple.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
should there be a | before (^| )(porno?
created a pull request; obviously feel free to reject that if I didn't grok the intent correctly
 
1:18 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: You will be truly out intelleral by user641494 on askubuntu.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: luxmuscle.com/dominant-testo-reviews/ by Tolubtsin on apple.stackexchange.com
tpu- by tripleee on You will be truly out intelleral [MS]
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Changes into a matter of gifted by Warad1990 on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by tripleee
 
!!/test-a intelleral
 
> Bad keyword in answer
----------
Body - Position 1-11: intelleral
 
where is that defined? it doesn't seem to be in bad_keywords.txt
ah, nvm, it's capitalized
not only do we have a record, we are close to doubling the previous record for autoflagged posts per day
 
1:39 PM
We're probably also close to a record number of blacklists in one week.
 
How hard should a legit post try to be autoflagged?
When should we expect a false positive?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: supplementlab.org/alpha-monster-advanced/ by tworn char on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@M.A.R. for the current threshold (280)? Pretty hard.
Jan 2 at 15:59, by Undo
Fun fact: The last false positive we got with the filter Art's using is https://metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/26272, from April '16.
 
@Glorfindel That's a very spammy FP
 
Yeah, and that post was deleted as spam/rude/abusive anyway.
 
1:49 PM
We're due a false positive - a whole one - some time in the next 10 months.
 
Can I get a list of FP's that would be autoflagged playing with MS? 'cause I haven't yet done that
 
The first development that I have seen regarding autoflagging, was precisely that: you could enter a score and MS showed you what it would flag.
@ArtOfCode any idea what happened to that?
 
Still exists, but requires you to own a flag condition, which in turn requires you to be signed up to autoflagging.
 
Ah, sorry, you mentioned that before. My mistake.
 
I might see if I can change that so that anyone can get at it
 
1:53 PM
That would be great. Apparently, I am not the only one who wants to play with it.
 
@Glorfindel me! me! me!
Hehe
 
0
A: Kies/ Smart Switch data transfer

marky chuiTry the app I'm currently using. It's called Airmore. The process is simple: 1- Download and install Airmore on your Android phone. 2- Access their site and connect your phone. After these steps, you can freely transfer data between your Android device and PC.

This FP?
 
I have no clue. For me, the entire Android ecosystem is spam/malware. </sarcasm>
 
Flags as sarcastically spammy
Not sure if the site appreciates the sarcasm
 
As you can see from the second and third hit, we have absolutely no clue.
The same content was marked as TP and five days later as FP.
 
2:12 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post, blacklisted user: ALPHA MONSTER ADVANCED USE EASY FOR ALL by tworn char on apple.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@SmokeDetector v
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: Bring element to front using CSS by user7410157 on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@SmokeDetector v
 
Okay, I've pushed a conditions sandbox to GH, waiting on deploy. Meantime, I'm going to try to open some ports locally so y'all can access it from my PC
 
@DavidPostill very spammy?
 
2:18 PM
Vandalism
 
Oh
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: [US20160122959][1] by Billy Pierce on patents.stackexchange.com
fp- by Glorfindel
 
Ugh.
 
But off-topic.
 
I keep reading that as parents.SE.
 
2:19 PM
Ask Patents sees this kind of questions quite often.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly non-Latin answer: Need to resume Try after Catch block by בר עוז on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
translate: בר עוז בר עוז בר עוז בר עוז בר עוז
(from Hebrew) Kurban Kurban Kurban Kurban Kurban
 
I don't agree with that translation.
Kurban (animal sacrifice) is Qorban in Hebrew, and would be written as קָרְבָּן‎‎
Anyway, yesterday there was another account (probably the same one) posting exactly this.
 
Okay, port forwards have failed. Y'all are just gonna have to wait for a deploy :)
 
CI on d10c9db succeeded.
 
2:29 PM
(I meant this one)
 
CI on 3a4cb85 succeeded.
 
!!/pull
 
Restart: API quota is 5482.
 
2:52 PM
^^^ Rude/abusive
 
you forgot the slash
 
@Glorfindel Thx. I was just about to check if smokey was alive :)
 
!!/blacklist-website bravoclipping\.com
 
@Glorfindel Blacklisted bravoclipping\.com
CI on 76faf2e succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 5294.
 
3:15 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Raster to vector conversion library by Ydel Zuriel on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by DavidPostill
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Where could I find a partner to outsource defining photo clipping path? by Ydel Zuriel on photo.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
I'm loving this auto-feedback plugin.
 
auto feedback plugin?
FDSC?
 
That
❤️
 
Yeah, it's pretty sweet
 
@ArtOfCode just for completeness, did the merge create a new heuristic with a different identity or will the new one continue to collect evidence for the old "deeply nested blockquotes" regex rule?
I can see benefits and problems both ways
the old FP rate was rather high so it will look like this rule sucks until we get enough new hits to balance them out
on the other hand, maybe we don't want the database to be polluted with old obsolete heuristics
 
3:25 PM
@tripleee Name is effectively the primary key for reasons. If you change the name, you create a new reason.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Revived Youth Cream for Girls and Old women by user83992 on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
3:42 PM
@ArtOfCode okay, I guess that's suitable in this scenario
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Javascript number guessing game by Ty Ty on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@tripleee Yeah, we might as well. If it's changed significantly, then getting new data on it is probably a good idea
 
4:13 PM
!!/blacklist-website beaufitreviews\.com
 
@tripleee Blacklisted beaufitreviews\.com
CI on bc7c2ed succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
 
meh, already blacklisted, my bad /-:
 
Restart: API quota is 4696.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: gGgGgG translator by Hue on codereview.stackexchange.com
 
!!/blacklist-website luxmuscle\.com
 
@tripleee Blacklisted luxmuscle\.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
CI on fd6186e succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 4676.
 
4:19 PM
!!/blacklist-keyword cognishield
 
@tripleee Blacklisted cognishield
CI on d80545e succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 4656.
 
!!/blacklist-website eyeserumreview\.ca
 
@tripleee Blacklisted eyeserumreview\.ca
CI on 9a8197a succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 4649.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: MATLAB, Filling in the area between two sets of data, lines in one figure by ZIO on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
4:46 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: FTP copy a file to another place in same FTP by Sabbir on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] English text in answer on a localized site, blacklisted website in answer: Что значит "никто не идеален"? by Andre Come-Lately on rus.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@Glorfindel Sure on that one?
 
It's preply.com again ...
 
oh, are they on a roll? Okay then
 
The answer doesn't make sense "And that means there? In this case?" while the question itself asks about a Russian version of "nobody is perfect".
 
5:13 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Display (syntax) trees in webpage by M K on stackoverflow.com
naa- by Floern
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Enable download of games by Aza Aza on windowsphone.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Floern
 
5:37 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Are there any free sites to do planning poker online? by eswaminathan on stackoverflow.com
CI on a9c4717 succeeded.
 
!!/pull
 
Restart: API quota is 4026.
 
@SmokeDetector fp
 
@DavidPostill Registered question as false positive.
 
 
1 hour later…
7:05 PM
!!/notify 11540 stackexchange.com
 
@dorukayhan The given SE site does not exist.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: prior to contacting the actual by phone by JamSetn on drupal.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Floern
 
!!/notify 11540 stackoverflow.com meta.stackexchange.com codegolf.stackexchange.com
 
@dorukayhan 2 arguments expected
 
@SmokeDetector argh
!!/notify 11540 stackoverflow.com-
!!/notify 11540 meta.stackexchange.com-
!!/notify 11540 codegolf.stackexchange.com
 
@dorukayhan You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on codegolf.stackexchange.com, in room 11540 on chat.stackexchange.com
 
7:22 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: maxhealthtips.com/idol-white/ by sufiyaan on workplace.stackexchange.com
 
7:48 PM
sd k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Before I get to my own Idol White by user62797 on apple.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Code to create CAPTCHA code in ASP.NET? by Sameer Khan on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
 
maaaybe
sd f
 
@Undo [:34735373] That message is not a report.
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
@Undo really? I flagged it
 
7:53 PM
well, you happened to time it just right to get a helpful flag :)
Looks like an NAA to me, it's spammy but I can't say that it's definitely spam
 
@SmokeDetector 💩
feature request ^
 
💩 yes please
 
@Undo Couldn't SD (if it had RO) get around the deletion time
and simply move posts that are too old to delete
 
It could, but why?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: Mirrored image using ifft2 function in MATLAB by user7410729 on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
 
8:20 PM
@ArtOfCode Deployed
 
Pretty sure it does have RO
 
It does here, that's what the italics are for
also, apparently I left autoflagging on my account on all night last night. Ooops.
 
@Glor @Cerb sandbox
@Undo yep, that's why we have 100+ autoflags today :)
87 posts, 164 flags
 
shrug I suppose that's not a bad thing.
grrr, still need to fix that site chooser thing
 
also, apparently the flag rate-limiting and the API backoffs aren't the same thing, which I suppose I should have guessed
We're respecting backoffs, but we still hit rate limits
 
8:23 PM
@ArtOfCode They're probably the same as the site, right?
5s?
 
yeah
 
So just throw a +5 in there
Or +5.5 to be safe.
also, whatdya think about flag_conditions having a timeframe chooser?
 
@Undo would be awesome, if you can figure out a decent UI for it
 
That can be done
but first, gotta figure out that sites thing
 
Yeah. There's a gem I've used on a few projects that might help
select2
 
8:31 PM
half considering rolling my own
But we can try that first
No view helper :(
 
@Undo Eh? Hang on, lemme look it up
 
oh, works off select_tag. Okay
Initialized in jQuery
 
9:20 PM
@ArtOfCode thanks!! I have just one small feature request: I'd like to show (only) the FPs in the results, so that 1) I can check if they're really FPs and 2) if there's room for possible improvement of the reasons. For example, if I take the current settings (280 score & 3 reasons), I see >12k TPs and only 2 FPs. But I see only the first 100 results, which are all TPs.
 
9:31 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body: Lazy Way For Men To A Great Enjoyable Ejaculation by markjhon on meta.stackexchange.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@Glorfindel that's more than one :P
 
More than one reason, but just one FR: I want to see the FPs resulting from the thresholds I specify.
 
I'm thinking it's useful to be able to show all the posts. What if we made it so you can click on the tp/fp indicators to filter the results down?
 
That would work as well. Please choose a solution which is the least amount of work for you :)
 
Yours is probably the least work, but the modification might make it more widely applicable
Mind throwing that in a GH issue?
 
9:43 PM
If you have an idea for a solution already, it's better if you create the GH issue yourself. At least, that's the way it works for me if one of our customers has a feature request.
 
Aye, but I'm on my phone :)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Where to purchase Idol White by user62797 on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@ArtOfCode done
Good night everybody!
 
o/
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: 'Source code does not match the bytecode' when debugging on a device by el correky on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: Quantifying Technical Debt - help us with standard by TracieBerardi on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
 
10:01 PM
@SmokeDetector assuming good faith for now
 
10:31 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Having said that, it is something by user641657 on askubuntu.com
tpu- by KazWolfe
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: customize styling on Twitter embedded tweet by iceblast on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
fp- by 4castle
naa- by dorukayhan
 
11:40 PM
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