Charcoal HQ

11:00 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: MegaDrox - Improve Blood Flow Into muscle by user22897 on arduino.stackexchange.com (@NickGammon) …

Ferrybig

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in body, pattern-matching website in body: SAP VIDEO COURSES by sagar565 on stackoverflow.com …

Ferrybig

@SmokeDetector spam

soup

@SmokeDetector f

Ferrybig

@soup do you have your spamtracker turned on?

soup

11:07 AM

@Ferrybig Not until now, why?

Hiya!

Hiya @AshishAhujaツ

o/

@soup The post you just marked as non-spam got announced again under a differend q

ArtOfCode

The answer under it looks spammy too

soup

11:10 AM

The link text "money transfer compare sites" looks spammy

ArtOfCode

In fact, that question is from the guy who posted the spammy answer. Spam seed, possible spam ring.

Mod flagging.

soup

Ok, I shouldn't have submitted feedback immediately after dropping in.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: How to find the best place for currency exchange in the UK? by Kyrenia61 on expatriates.stackexchange.com …

soup

Another one, a different site.

ArtOfCode

Definite spam ring. Arm the spam flags, guys.

Yvette

11:12 AM

@SmokeDetector k

Magisch

@SmokeDetector k

Hey @art

Are you from america?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Currency Transfers abroad by Kyrenia61 on expatriates.stackexchange.com …

Yvette

uk?

soup

Both answers and question: all spam ^

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: Currency Transfers abroad by Simon Birch on expatriates.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: How to find the best place for currency exchange in the UK? by Simon Birch on expatriates.stackexchange.com …

Yvette

11:14 AM

@soup spam seed

Ashish Ahuja ツ

sd 3k

Magisch

@ArtOfCode Version 1.5 of your script shows 1 fp(?) for [this] post that has only 1 tp

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Currency Transfers abroad by aspasia on expatriates.stackexchange.com …

Yvette

sd 5k

soup

!!/report writers.stackexchange.com/q/23286

Yvette

11:16 AM

I apologise if I reported an answer that was already here, there's a warren of them

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: Where do I fine decent translators by Simon Birch on writers.stackexchange.com …

Yvette

sd k

Ashish Ahuja ツ

@Yvette aren't you not supposed to respond to your own manual reports?

soup

^ I mod flagged to explain, but spam flags are appropriate too.

Yvette

SAME

Magisch

11:16 AM

sd 6k

soup

@AshishAhujaツ I don't think we have a hard rule about that. If it's a part of a chain, it makes sense to confirm all at once

Yvette

@AshishAhujaツ I'm attempting to report the post that haven't made it hear, so the users can be blacklisted and enough people can spam flag them, so they're deleted.

@soup I figure we have the number to get them deleted without flags, while waiting for a mod?

Ashish Ahuja ツ

@soup No. I'm talking about something different. Yvette had only reported them in SOCVR, and I thought that there is a rule that you shouldn't respond to your oown reports.

Ferrybig

@Magisch It was probably bugged because that post got reported 2 times

Ashish Ahuja ツ

@Yvette I see. I didn't know about that

soup

11:18 AM

Maybe, but I'd like the mod to be informed. Writers mods don't have the context we have.

Magisch

@soup I left a comment

Yvette

@soup oh yes! def use a mod flag for that.

soup

!!/addblu money.stackexchange.com/users/44058/kyrenia61?tab=topactivity

SmokeDetector

@soup User blacklisted (44058 on money.stackexchange.com).

Magisch

You are mistaken Magisch — Simon Birch 2 mins ago

rofl

a spammer is trying to talk back to me

Ferrybig

11:20 AM

@Yvette Just a hint, when using the !!/report command, you can report 5 posts in 1 command

Yvette

@Ferrybig ah k, I have been using the script at the site of the post.

also I didn't expect to keep finding them!

But good to know

Ferrybig

@Yvette Using the script is probably also the reason why you're posting them in the SOCVR

Yvette

@Magisch doesn't understand definition of spam

Magisch

Doesn't matter, he will vanish into the nether that all ip blocked spammers go.

Ashish Ahuja ツ

hiya @Andy @Jannes!

SmokeDetector

11:26 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: Python while loops by maya on stackoverflow.com …

@SmokeDetector k

@SmokeDetector k

sd k

Hi there :) No idea where I ended up now. Just followed a link. Another hidden corner of SE :)

Yvette

Feature Request can we have a reply isAnIdiot please

@Jannes welcome!! :D

we are the quiet busy bees

SmokeDetector

11:28 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: Is spartagen xt Really Helpfull For Boost Your Testosterone Level? by aronezoswald on askubuntu.com …

Magisch

This is a dark shadowy corner

Yvette

sd k

Magisch

@SmokeDetector k

Jannes

@Magisch I had marked that post as spam. But then I edited it so I figured at least the links would be gone before an admin deletes the post. Better not to?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: Beginning quotes with square brackets by Emily Cruse on ell.stackexchange.com (@TIPS) …

Magisch

11:29 AM

@Jannes Yeah, its better not to

You made the post look more NAA then spam

Ferrybig

@Jannes Better not to edit spam, it gives the spammer reputation if the post get upvotes, and removes proof for moderators

Magisch

Its important that people who come across it see that it is spam and flag appropiately

soup

sd k

Magisch

6 spam flags will automaticly delete and lock the post

Jannes

true. there wasn't much info left either. I didn't know if this was an honest new user that could be changed into becoming a useful user. But if you say he'd been spamming in other places too, it's pretty clear.

Magisch

11:30 AM

Yeah

No way for you to know, but all the garbage posts converge here

We see most spam posts on the network here

Yvette

@Magisch not referring to the users of course :D

Jannes

ok. I'll keep learning and hopefully improving.

So this is admin hangout for whole of SE or....?

Magisch

No

none of us are actually admins

We're users

Yvette

@Jannes pedantic volunteers :D

Jannes

ok. Just helping out fight spam and such then.

Yvette

11:32 AM

regulars on SO

yep

Magisch

Users coded SmokeDetector, the chatbot that reads all new posts on the network and reports outliers as possible spam based on heuristics, and other users confirm or deny its findings, and spamflag the true positives to nuke them from the site

Ashish Ahuja ツ

Hiya @Bart!

Bart

o/

Magisch

We're basicly a user driven spam eradication engine

Jannes

Cool. So far I only hangout on the bitcoin mempool thing. Maybe I should hang out here too. I love SE in general.

Ashish Ahuja ツ

11:33 AM

Hiya @Randal'Thor!

Jannes

@Magisch nice. I like smokedetector a lot. It also reports to bitcoin mempool and caught a lot already.

Rand al'Thor

@Magisch Well, some of us are mods, if that counts.

@AshishAhujaツ waves

Magisch

Most of you all are mods somewhere

:p

Rand al'Thor

I seem to be the only one active in here atm, judging by the abundance of black text.

Rory Alsop

... I'm blue da ba dee da ba doo

Magisch

11:36 AM

@Randal'Thor Undo, Art, WRZQM, You, Rory, Hichris....

So many

Jannes

I'm not sure what I am called. I can do some stuff, but not outright delete stuff. So I guess not mod. Can't be bothered to care too much, but I'm happy to help out randomly improving posts, voting and flagging.

Rand al'Thor

@Magisch "active in here atm", meaning in the last long bunch of messages (until Rory showed up) :-)

Magisch

On Stackexchange most moderation is community driven

Rory Alsop

99% of all the SmokeDetector posts I see are from one of my sites...and as we have the direct feed into our mod room there, I am probably in this room less often than I should be

(I can respond there easily)

Magisch

@rory we get alot from drupal, TWP and Askubuntu/SU/Programmers too

Rand al'Thor

11:38 AM

@RoryAlsop One of your sites? That could be, like, half the sites on the network :-P

Yvette

@RoryAlsop parenting?

Magisch

We had some seriously disturbing stuff on parenting.SE last month

@RoryAlsop You commented on the Meta thread that you see that kind of stuff more often

What do you guys actually do with it? Report it to SE?

Yvette

@Ferrybig can you get that script to post in here?

Rory Alsop

Parenting, yes. We have a CM who sees it all (poor sod)

soup

@SmokeDetector OT/MCVE

Magisch

11:41 AM

@SmokeDetector f

Yvette

:30261867 f

Ferrybig

in SO Close Vote Reviewers on Stack Overflow Chat, 4 mins ago, by Ferrybig

:31079422 Don't forgot to replace the chat domain btw chat.stackoverflow.com => chat.stackexchange.com

Magisch

@RoryAlsop :o

Yvette

@RoryAlsop has that bad person eased up at all>

Rand al'Thor

@soup What's MCVE? Also, are you the user formerly known as sandwich?

Yvette

11:42 AM

@Ferrybig thanks

Magisch

Gotta have thick skin to sift through that

Rory Alsop

@Magisch And the vast majority is targeted at one mod. The guy who writes it should be taken out and shot.

He goes through phases - currently not posted anything for a week

Magisch

@RoryAlsop I only read parts of the last occurence and I had a minor panic attack over it. Can't imagine what its like to be targeted with that. Where does that spammer find all that disturbing stuff?

soup

@Randal'Thor It's an off-topic close reason for SO.

stackoverflow.com/help/mcve

Yvette

Can I do a test report?

Ashish Ahuja ツ

11:43 AM

@Randal'Thor MCVE is a close reason on SO which stands fro Minimal Complete and Verifialble example

Rory Alsop

@Magisch Yeah - I have 2 daughters and a son around that sort of age, so I get a bit concerned (and very angry)

Ferrybig

@Yvette You could always edit the script to replace the !!/report by something like !!/alive so a false report isn't created while you're testing

Yvette

@Ferrybig there's a problem with it

Ferrybig

Let's see if I could make the script work...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: for maximum control during tactical encounters.If by rownonida on askubuntu.com …

Yvette

11:49 AM

sd k

SmokeDetector

@Ferrybig Of course

soup

> If you need to break a window during an emergency such as a car window you can use the tip of the pen

Migrate to LifeHacks?

Seriously, pen spam is something new.

Ferrybig

@Yvette I am using this, and it works: gist.github.com/ferrybig/8e8cc059a4d356a6dac8f0e9818b0fb2 Did you replace the 2 instances of stackoverflow with stackexchange ?

Yvette

@Ferrybig thanks

Ferrybig

@Yvette Make sure to change the "!!/alive" back into "!!/report" if you're done testing, :)

Yvette

11:53 AM

@Ferrybig yes thanks!

!!/alive meta.stackoverflow.com/a/325917/3956566

SmokeDetector

@Yvette Of course

soup

!!/report apple.stackexchange.com/a/242194

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Green text "Profile" appears on login? (OSX Yosemite) by Johny on apple.stackexchange.com …

Yvette

sd k

@Ferrybig line 46 notify('Close vote request sent

> notify('Report sent.',1000);

SmokeDetector

@Yvette Of course

Ferrybig

11:58 AM

@Yvette Lol, that's even in the original script

Yvette

@Ferrybig yeh I know! lol

Ferrybig

12:34 PM

Hiya Undo

Undo

@Yvette Yeah, your answer there is right

Yvette

@Undo yeh I think I should still be reviewing wiki tags for plagiarims

@Undo o/ Undo

ah I give up

\o Undo

12:37 PM

@SmokeDetector notspam

Yvette

that give up comment was me editing to correct typos and creating more

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: What Is Ripped Testo? by velmamoreno on gaming.stackexchange.com …

Magisch

@SmokeDetector k

Ashish Ahuja ツ

sd k

Ashish Ahuja ツ

12:53 PM

Hiya @Wrzlprmft!

Yvette

@SmokeDetector k

Ashish Ahuja ツ

1:38 PM

bye

SmokeDetector

1:57 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: One word for witches and wizards by dgbcxdhhnnc on english.stackexchange.com …

Yvette

sd k

I like to flad that as sd w - w for weird

@SmokeDetector f poor quality

@SmokeDetector f

soup

The SU post is likely a spam seed, we'll see soon.

Yvette

@soup totally agree, but I didn't have much to go on in terms of feedback

oh and the user has other accounts, they are actually using

soup

Ah, then it's indeed f.

Yvette

@soup your profile pics make me hungry

soup

2:12 PM

Sorry. I'll try to be quiet so they fade away.

Yvette

@soup No! don't say that it's nice :)

!!/isblu stackoverflow.com/users/6445579/stacie

SmokeDetector

@Yvette User is not blacklisted (6445579 on stackoverflow.com).

Yvette

@soup sd f doesn't remove a user from the bl does it? It has to be done manually?

soup

@Yvette If the only reason for report was "Blacklisted user:", then "f" will remove from the blacklist. If it was also something else, it will not. github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/…

Yvette

sd commands

@soup thanks

soup

2:17 PM

It's "help" or "info" but I guess "commands" should be there too.

Yvette

sd help

in the room info? dam I have it bookmarked but have too many book marks

!!/addblu stackoverflow.com/users/6445579/stacie was blisted and now has account suspension to cool down, thought it would be wise to keep user there for a while

SmokeDetector

@Yvette Invalid format. Valid format: !!/addblu profileurl or !!/addblu userid sitename.

Yvette

!!/addblu stackoverflow.com/users/6445579/stacie

SmokeDetector

@Yvette User blacklisted (6445579 on stackoverflow.com).

ArtOfCode

@Magisch that'd be a no. Little ole Britain for me.

@Magisch [which] post?

Magisch

2:25 PM

@ArtOfCode The first one from the expats spam ring

Yvette

3 hours ago, by Yvette

uk?

ArtOfCode

@Magisch deleted now, can't check

@Yvette spot on

soup

!!/pull

Yvette

night all

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev ffa02b6 (GitHub: Add !!/commands as alias for !!/help) (running on Raspberry Pi)

Restart: API quota is 4822.

ArtOfCode

2:28 PM

!!/commands

...yeah, I don't think that worked.

!!/alive

Ah, websocket error.

!!/commands

...or not.

!!/alive

!!/help

@soup I think you broke something

Ferrybig

!!/alive

SmokeDetector

@Ferrybig Of course

Ferrybig

@ArtOfCode Smokey seems to be back now

!!/errorlogs

SmokeDetector

@Ferrybig The !!/errorlogs command requires 1 argument.

Ferrybig

!!/errorlogs 100

ArtOfCode

2:35 PM

!!/errorlogs 50

SmokeDetector

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 365, in decode
    obj, end = self.raw_decode(s, idx=_w(s, 0).end())

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 383, in raw_decode
    raise ValueError("No JSON object could be decoded")


ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded
2016-06-09 02:29:50.145267 UTC
  File "/media/sda2/SmokeDetector/excepthook.py", line 46, in run_with_except_hook
    run_old(*args, **kw)

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/threading.py", line 505, in run
    self.__target(*self.__args, **self.__kwargs)

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 365, in decode
    obj, end = self.raw_decode(s, idx=_w(s, 0).end())

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 383, in raw_decode
    raise ValueError("No JSON object could be decoded")


ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded
2016-06-09 20:11:08.566184 UTC
  File "/media/sda2/SmokeDetector/excepthook.py", line 46, in run_with_except_hook
    run_old(*args, **kw)

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/threading.py", line 505, in run
    self.__target(*self.__args, **self.__kwargs)

ArtOfCode

last error was this morning

Ferrybig

!!/help

SmokeDetector

@Ferrybig I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.

Ferrybig

!!/commands

SmokeDetector

2:36 PM

@Ferrybig I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.

soup

Smokey had a websocket problem when reconnecting after restart.

Ferrybig

Translation: smokey is in a bad mood and decided to have some time for itself, instead of listening to what others say

ArtOfCode

aye

CE has that issue sometimes

Ashish Ahuja ツ

I'm back

ArtOfCode

2:53 PM

I'm front

I'm left

I'm right

I'm up

I'm down

I'm over

3:00 PM

I'm under

I'm outside

I'm inside

I'm bored

I'm excited

I'm happy

3:13 PM

I'm wondering why we're doing this

Doorknob

I'm in agreement

Ashish Ahuja ツ

True. I don't see a reason why we made this train

Ashish Ahuja ツ

4:28 PM

night

SmokeDetector

4:49 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer: Connect Android Phone to Ubuntu 14.04 by Rozen Gupta on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: wordpress homepage only mobile redirect by Eric on stackoverflow.com …

Ferrybig

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer: Fall back to pattern lock if fingerprint not recognised by Jerry.hermes on android.stackexchange.com (@AndrewT.) …

Ferrybig

@SmokeDetector n (may be considered garbage)

SmokeDetector

5:07 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Mostly non-Latin title: PyQgis не загружает слои на форму .ui by Kalent on gis.stackexchange.com …

SmokeDetector

5:22 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: Can't copy to external harddrive because of error: "invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character" by kamila on askubuntu.com …

Undo

sd k long path tool

ArtOfCode

@Undo how are you avoiding RecordNotUnique errors with MS tests? I'm attempting to set up tests for another project, but it's throwing those at me. Seems like it's trying to re-create every fixture for every test it runs.

Undo

@ArtOfCode Never ran into them

ArtOfCode

huh, odd

So what command do you use to run the suite?

Undo

Sure you're using a seperate test database? Using a dev database will wreck everything

rails t(est)

I did notice that the test classes you generate are different than the ones I generate, though

ArtOfCode

5:25 PM

@Undo I'm just running the command :) I assume it's using the test database

Undo

@ArtOfCode Check config/database.yml?

ArtOfCode

rake db:drop db:create db:schema:load test

test:
  <<: *default
  database: db/test.sqlite3

Undo

yeah, should work

hmrph

ArtOfCode

odd

It's strange because it's exactly the same RecordNotUnique: INSERT INTO.... exception message for every single test. Which kinda suggests to me that it's inserting the same user into the DB before it runs every test.

Undo

This project public anywhere?

ArtOfCode

5:28 PM

Yep, github.com/ArtOfCode-/qpixel

Oooh I might have it

Undo

@ArtOfCode Rails does reset the database before every test

ArtOfCode

@Undo aye, but every single test, rather than every run. I think I've nobbled it now, though. Or at least, the error has changed to something else.

Thanks, though :)

Undo

@ArtOfCode Right, it resets the db before every test IIRC

Prevents cross-pollination and hard-to-debug things due to tests interacting on the same data

ArtOfCode

Oh. That must get expensive.

Undo

I thought I read somewhere that it actually just ROLLBACK's everything and kinda keeps the changes in memory or something

But this is getting into stuff I don't know

ArtOfCode

5:33 PM

That... would make sense actually. BEGIN TRANSACTION, do your inserts, ROLLBACK when the test ends.

Undo

But then it shouldn't be reloading the fixtures. That's just weird.

!!/report softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/25251/…

@SmokeDetector fpu-

ArtOfCode

I don't think it was. Two of the user fixtures had the same email, which is probably what tripped it.

Undo

!!/rmblu softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/u/46

SmokeDetector

@Undo User removed from blacklist (46 on softwarerecs.stackexchange.com).

Undo

!!/report softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/25251/…

@SmokeDetector k

@SmokeDetector f

ArtOfCode

5:38 PM

@Undo you should really stop spamming your own mod site there :)

Undo

!!/rmblu softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/u/46

SmokeDetector

@Undo User removed from blacklist (46 on softwarerecs.stackexchange.com).

ArtOfCode

You'll get your account destroyed.

By yourself.

Undo

I'm just waiting until we get automated flagging implemented and it decides to nuke my stuff

ArtOfCode

...would laugh.

Undo

5:41 PM

!!/report softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/25251/…

sd k

hah

sd f

!!/rmblu softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/u/46

SmokeDetector

@Undo User removed from blacklist (46 on softwarerecs.stackexchange.com).

Undo

19 posts in the database with that URL :P

Now 0

ArtOfCode

5:54 PM

Sorry @Undo, gonna bug you again :) Any idea what I'm looking for with an error of Permission denied @ utime_internal?

Undo

@ArtOfCode Sounds familiar, somehow, but I'm not sure why

Context?

ArtOfCode

6:18 PM

@Undo Sorry, had to run for a moment. Still in testing. Admin controller tests, using users fixtures.

[ActionController::RoutingError] exception expected, not
Class: <ActionView::Template::Error>
Message: <"Permission denied @ utime_internal - /home/ubuntu/ws/qpixel/tmp/cache/assets/sprockets/v3.0/cU/cUVvhYt0aZ011_WkwXIRP4sZi9ARna3ib-4viN9J0zo.cache">

SmokeDetector

6:31 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: Why does moving some files in a folder take longer than moving the whole folder? by kamila on askubuntu.com …

Wai Ha Lee

sd k

SmokeDetector

6:52 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer, non-English link in answer, non-Latin link in answer: Customize colorbox caption (long caption and position of it) by Mohsen Roosta on stackoverflow.com …

Ferrybig

@SmokeDetector k