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12:04 AM

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Q: Should cookie blocks be added to the IP-based spam-blocking system?

Note: Not a duplicate of Please don't use a spam filter based on IP address. That proposes that we stop blocking IPs; this one suggests implementing an additional feature while keeping the existing IP blocking system. Over at Charcoal, we've detected at least a few persistent spammers and trolls...

feature-request spam post-ban spam-detection

^^that beat me to it

@ArtOfDuck See above bot post

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Can knot non-equivalence be a proof-of-work for a cryptocurrency? by Alex Corey on mathoverflow.net

!!/report interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/12755

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How can I correct my family's use of language related to LGBT+ issues without making them uncomfortable? by iloveLGBTQQIP2SAA on interpersonal.SE

tpu- by WELZ

@SmokeDetector that's a very interesting question, as an aside

12:12 AM

Can y'all pull any useful regex stuff out of the things in that post that seem to have not been caught?

@Catija What do you think of my feature request above?

!!/watch LGBTQQIP2SAA

@quartata Added LGBTQQIP2SAA to watchlist

!!/pull

@gparyani CI build is still pending, wait until the build has finished and then pull again.

12:13 AM

@quartata don't think that is the problem.

@gparyani Kinda busy...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 8f5f7d5 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of LGBTQQIP2SAA by quartata --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Why not have the watchlist in a separate database, so we don't have to pull every time it's updated, and can possibly make it non-public?

Restart: API quota is 14797.

I disagree

the fundamental point of this troll is to make fun of the acronym

12:15 AM

If people can publicly see the spam tests, they can work out how to get around them

tpu- by Grant Garrison on Can knot non-equivalence be a proof-of-work for a cryptocurrency? [MS]

@quartata they'll just change whatever comes after the first Q

we'll cross that bridge when we come to it

so far it's the same in both the username and the body

to tease, that is

Sep 30 '17 at 16:14, by ArtOfCode

spammers are dumb

12:16 AM

tpu by Grant Garrison on Can knot non-equivalence be a proof-of-work for a cryptocurrency? [MS]

@SmokeDetector perspective only rates this as a .68 :/

12:28 AM

Send me a list of these persistent spammers, I'll tell you if this would've helped at all. — Shog9 ♦ 4 mins ago

Someone please link Shog to the relevant metasmoke page.

Hey @undo can you look at channels? I have signed up 4 or 5 times and nothing happens.

Hrmph

Shog wants account links

@Undo You talking to me?

maybe

no

12:50 AM

38 mins ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Can knot non-equivalence be a proof-of-work for a cryptocurrency? by Alex Corey on mathoverflow.net

People! 38 minutes!

uh oh

gone

Yay!

@Undo Should we include a MS search for pharma spammers as well?

Anything to slow down the pharma spammers is welcome

...qcpi's OS reinstallation progress bar just went 37%, 39%, 38%

1:14 AM

Anyone else having trouble with channels/charcoal team?

Nope

@SFTP It's easy to have a room that's only SmokeDetector. Just open up another tab with CHQ and click on the following bookmarklet:

javascript:(function() { function onlySD() { setTimeout(() => $('.signature').each(function() { let uid = (this.className.match(/user-(-?\d+)/) || [null])[1]; if (uid !== null && uid != 120914) { showHideForUser(uid, true); } }), 0); } CHAT.addEventHandlerHook(onlySD); onlySD(); document.title = 'SmokeDetector in Charcoal HQ'; })();

everyone else is alredy a member :S

@WELZ And I'm sitting here trying to get in lol.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in title: Was it common for nazis to wear soviet uniforms in the holocaust? by user31145 on history.SE

fp- by WELZ

1:20 AM

@Makyen it shrunk (some) of the profiles on the side Lol

We already had one of these today

Possible troll, mod-flagged

@SmokeDetector A little suspicious -- but I'm going with fp since it's an actual question and doesn't jump out as a passive-agressive dig at the holocaust

It has the same writing style of choppy sentences though

5 hours ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in title: Why are the nazis in holocaust photos wearing soviet uniforms? by user31137 on history.SE

Hmm

I'm not familiar with History.SE's scope, but the new Smokey report looks like it could pass as an actual, on-topic question of decent quality

1:23 AM

Retracted my mod flag, replaced it with r/a

@WELZ You mean in the right-sidebar? Yes, that's what it looks like when you hide messages by a user.

oh, i see

tpu- by Grant Garrison

Conflicting feedback on Was it common for nazis to wear soviet uniforms in the holocaust?.

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is trolling — axsvl77 1 min ago

Conflicting feedback on Was it common for nazis to wear soviet uniforms in the holocaust?.

1:24 AM

^^ that's a local user, 3K on History

I'm going with tpu- because it most likely is the same person

@SmokeDetector k

Conflicting feedback on Was it common for nazis to wear soviet uniforms in the holocaust?.

Conflicting feedback on Was it common for nazis to wear soviet uniforms in the holocaust?.

I personally don't care if the troll asks an actual, non-agressive question about the holocaust -- but if he starts trolling in comments then that's a different story

And the pattern is the same as on Skeptics, appears to be asking a question within the scope of the site, but it's all in bad faith.

Probably same troll, moved from Skeptics (where their posts were nuked in seconds) to History.

1:25 AM

@SmokeDetector this is the same person

@SFTP We've had tons of these on History

@NobodyNada started out on skeptics

linking to google images is extraordinarily common

@quartata Right, but History is not new

I don't remember tons, I remember them on Skeptics...

Wait. This is an example for cookie ban

1:26 AM

the implication of the whole thing is "hue hue look the communists are nazis HA CHECKMATE LIBS"

any time you give this person an inch they start posting even worse stuff

I'm torn. On the one hand it we know who it is...on the other hand, I don't see anything wrong with this post on its own

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link following arrow in body: Using JAVA 9 G1GC, System.gc () not executed when application under load. Why? by Nagaraj on stackoverflow.com

It's gone anyway.

they get abusive in the comments and do things like this too

There is nothing wrong with suggesting a utility that helps with long path names, either... in principle.

1:28 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: How can androids suffer from a virus that spreads by contact by Guy Name on worldbuilding.SE

If someone is posting something multiple times, by definition it is spam

If he posts even worse stuff, we deal with even worse stuff, and if he posts dumb things in comments, we deal with those. But I don't have anything against him asking real questions

and this

@GrantGarrison No it's not

@SmokeDetector why

1:29 AM

@GrantGarrison Body - Position 1113-1216: Click here for <a href="https://ufile.io/29lo3" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Jboss_console.log</a></p>

and this

The Stack Exchange definition of spam is "exists only to promote a product or service, does not disclose affiliation"

fp- by Makyen on Using JAVA 9 G1GC, System.gc () not executed when application under load. Why? [MS]

@NobodyNada I know but "normal" would be considered spam

@SmokeDetector v

1:30 AM

@SmokeDetector fp-

Is v appropriate there?

@NobodyNada This isn't a real question. This is trying to be misleading to own the libs

@SmokeDetector v

fp- by Makyen

Conflicting feedback on How can androids suffer from a virus that spreads by contact.

Conflicting feedback on How can androids suffer from a virus that spreads by contact.

Conflicting feedback on How can androids suffer from a virus that spreads by contact.

@SFTP repairable perhaps

1:30 AM

Conflicting feedback on How can androids suffer from a virus that spreads by contact.

@quartata Maybe the answer is "those aren't soviet uniforms"

tpu by gparyani

Conflicting feedback on How can androids suffer from a virus that spreads by contact.

Conflicting feedback on How can androids suffer from a virus that spreads by contact.

@SmokeDetector I considered it repairable.

!!/rmblu worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/users/49147

@NobodyNada User removed from blacklist (49147 on worldbuilding.stackexchange.com).

1:31 AM

@gparyani tp-, not tpu for vandalism

Why does Smokey repeat the same thing so many times?

It reports for each combination of feedback, I think

But... he shouldn't?

@NobodyNada There isn't an option to say tp from the metasmoke site.

@NobodyNada people have tried to answer in good faith before

1:32 AM

@quartata I could be wrong here (and judging by chat consensus I probably am)

@SFTP He (desperately) wants to be heard.

@SmokeDetector tp-

Conflicting feedback on How can androids suffer from a virus that spreads by contact.

Conflicting feedback on How can androids suffer from a virus that spreads by contact.

it ends poorly

But if the question looks like a good question and gets a good answer, I couldn't care less whether it was posted by a troll

1:32 AM

The messages are identical.

@gparyani Then you'll have to say it from chat

@NobodyNada or advancedflagging

1 min ago, by gparyani

@SmokeDetector tp-

afk

I think questions posted in bad faith are bad questions. SE dialog explicitly tells not to ask those.

There are those users on Academia... and Parenting, and Workplace, I think.... that post questions shaped by their sexual fantasies, so they can get off reading the ensuing discussion.

No need to provide them with that.

1:39 AM

@SFTP That is a bug that might be the same as the dupe CI bug. IDK but if it isn't fixed after dupe CI then make an issue on GH.

!!/report german.stackexchange.com/a/43353

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Unterschied zwischen »zu etwas bereit sein« und »für etwas bereit sein« by Lehmann on german.SE

10 mins ago, by quartata

@NobodyNada This isn't a real question. This is trying to be misleading to own the libs

premise is flawed, I see no reason to answer regardless of the speaker

like I said though, this has not stopped people from trying

tpu by quartata

@SmokeDetector still alive

1:46 AM

tpu- by Grant Garrison

2:00 AM

So, this answer [MS]: It appears clear that people consider the edit to be vandalism. Why do we not consider it to be a repairable offensive post (hence fp)? It uses a single expletive for emphasis. Removing that expletive is trivial, and only requires removing 2 words, leaving the sentence it's in quite understandable.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in username: Removing/ignoring all the punctuation in a given string by Sohbet on stackoverflow.com

I'm not arguing that it's a good answer, or a good edit, just if we should really consider it TP or FP.

@Makyen Maybe FP then. But isn't vandalism also repairable, in the same way (rollback)?

Yes... and I usually flag them for mods to fix if I don't have sufficient rep...

Or edit them and hope someone approves it.

@SFTP I guess it speaks to intent. Was the OP's intent to vandalize? Or was it to ask a question, while expressing frustration (which should be a comment w/o offensive content)?

IMO, it wasn't the OP's intent to vandalize their post.

2:16 AM

!!/report stackoverflow.com/questions/4224571/…

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Python User-Defined Data Type by Dani trusdale on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by Grant Garrison

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body: popular apps prevent on Mac OS by Sjx mnj on apple.SE

tpu- by WELZ

@SmokeDetector tpu-

@WELZ When did you hide the American flag in your avatar?

Mar 21 at 12:12, by CalvT븃

@WELZ you american nationalist you

Then^^

I’m pretty sure the holocaust posts earlier were from the troll. The Google Image link indicates they’re an American using an Android phone on T-Mobile (lol it’s part owned by the German government), just like in earlier posts.

@JF ah yes

I forgot how much metadata there is in that

2:26 AM

@JF Yeah, I was wondering what all the T-[not Mobile] advertising was at Frankfurt Airport

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: If the current is increased, is there more charge flowing or is it moving quicker? by user191368 on physics.SE

tpu by quartata

fp by Grant Garrison on Removing/ignoring all the punctuation in a given string [MS]

tpu- by WELZ

2:57 AM

@micsthepick you getting your profile ready for something? :O

@WELZ sadly no

I was just messing around

you could've made it look cool by editing the text to be like: 208 and 1168

3:12 AM

fp- by Tetsuya Yamamoto on Removing/ignoring all the punctuation in a given string [MS]

4:01 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: revivagenixfacts.com/vidhigra/ by shantelwillmant on meta.SE

tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto

Tetsuya Yamamoto

Sometimes I see "Backoff received" message when providing feedback. What is it mean?

@TetsuyaYamamoto How are you providing feedback?

@TetsuyaYamamoto In the context of the Stack Exchange API, backoff is when the server tells you to wait some number of seconds before making another request

Maybe you feedbacked via FIRE, and MS recieved a backoff when casting a flag?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: gomusclebuilding.com/male-booster-xl/ by rokieshwik on puzzling.SE (@Mithrandir @micsthepick)

tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: What happens when the Kepler Space Telescope 'catches up' to Earth? by garry on physics.SE

tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto

Might need a regex for "eat my X" with various values of X

4:06 AM

eat my as seat

Tetsuya Yamamoto

@NobodyNada Yes, I'm using FIRE. I clicked once but the SE server thinks it sent feedback twice.

@TetsuyaYamamoto Happened to me before

But not in FIRE

@TetsuyaYamamoto "SE server" you mean MS thought it feedbacked twice? or it tried to flag twice? Or are you referring to the two different popups: one for feedback, and one for flagging?

@NobodyNada There isn't anything in FIRE which should report a backoff issue for SE. FIRE should report a backoff received from MS when flagging, but there's a note saying that MS hasn't implemented sending backoff yet.

Tetsuya Yamamoto

@NobodyNada I don't know exactly what kind of being or instance send that message, I just thinking the feedback request sent twice in very short period instead of once.

4:17 AM

@TetsuyaYamamoto How was it displayed? How do you know it happened?

!!/watch (?:eat|suck|lick|bite|spank|kiss)\Wmy\War?s*e?

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs Added (?:eat|suck|lick|bite|spank|kiss)\Wmy\War?s*e? to watchlist

You're welcome for not being able to unsee that

CI on b42be91 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev b42be91 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of (?:eat|suck|lick|bite|spank|kiss)\Wmy\War?se? by K.Dᴀᴠɪs --autopull*) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 13350.

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs What about other body parts?

4:20 AM

what about ass?

Tetsuya Yamamoto

@Makyen I sent a feedback then first message "Send feedback 'x' to MS" shown up, and in about 1 or 2 seconds later "Backoff received" message appears.

@tripleee as*

covers it

since r is optional

oh chat markup seems to have obscured that

nvm

@TetsuyaYamamoto Was it a toastr message (i.e. looked like what FIRE displays when you provide feedback)?

@SFTP Meh I don't have 2 straight weeks to come up with all the possibilities imaginable... but [__] my ass is pretty common, very surprised it's not already included.

Tetsuya Yamamoto

4:24 AM

@Makyen Yes, it seems like from toastr (with information icon).

@TetsuyaYamamoto OK. Interesting. Thanks.

@tripleee FR: Auto watch of <codeblock> by ... :)

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs yeah that would be nice

I thought you were referring to my original post, but then I saw what you meant from Smokey

Just for reference, Smokey currently has (eat|suck|throbbing|sw[oe]ll(en|ing)?)\b.{0,20}\b (cock|dick)|dee[sz]e? nut[sz] in its offensive regex

4:27 AM

yeah that was partially because of me

@SFTP my eyes...

~~lamo~~ lmao

OK, so those body parts are already well covered. Heh.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username: In a Quantum Turing Machine, how is the decision to move along the memory tape made? by Anonymous Teacher on quantumcomputing.SE

What history is there with that username?

4:29 AM

@SmokeDetector plagirised?

The site is new.

Tetsuya Yamamoto

@SmokeDetector Seems like copied from a PDF document. Which feedback should be given to this?

@SFTP github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/1928

@SFTP are you on Charcoal's team?

No, I'm generally not a team player.

4:30 AM

@SFTP we know

@SFTP Let's ask @Mithrandir

@TetsuyaYamamoto It's sourced... it needs cleanup/formatting but it's not really plagiarism.

because there is a good post there that explains it well

tpu- by tripleee

Tetsuya Yamamoto

@Catija Yes, I know it contains source origin at the end of post. Why @tripleee gives TP for that?

4:32 AM

sd del

Just checking something

That said... I'm not really sure it is an answer to the question as asked... it seems likely to be either NAA or VLQ if it doesn't specifically highlight the answer to the question asked.

@TetsuyaYamamoto the familiar trollish user name coupled with the atrocious formatting but I don't have an account there (yet) so I didn't actually end up flagging anything

which is probably a good thing; I'll flag as VLQ instead and remove my feedback from Metasmoke

There are no mods on QC yet.

@TetsuyaYamamoto MS search, Channels post

They edited it.

4:34 AM

so no VLQ flag either

@SFTP maybe you should be on Teams because we have documented exactly this sort of question internally in there where it's out of public view, and this user name specifically

Account is destroyed.

Tetsuya Yamamoto

@AJ That account just previously posted entire PDF content...?

Oh, it's bounty spam.

Stupid crap.

... maybe not "spam" per-se... but that shit goes up all over the place.

@Catija ...he thinks he's going to outrank both real answers? (I think you're right, and MS and Channels seems to confirm that...but his logic doesn't seem to make sense)

It's unclear whether the OP deleted their own account or whether it was ... assisted.

4:38 AM

@TetsuyaYamamoto yes

also see the comment

But I see that around... "I've given you the answer, give me the bounty" which is dumb because WTF is a bounty going to do if you have no account?

@Catija which is also completely consistent with the documented troll behavior

These people have no logic.

Tetsuya Yamamoto

I often seen "bounty misuse" to prevent bad Q being deleted, but never heard such "bounty spam".

Is that something like "GMTB"?

@TetsuyaYamamoto IIRC we've caught "cat-on-keyboard" posts posted at the last minute to try and snag an unfulfilled bounty

4:40 AM

flagged the bounty comment as "no longer needed" and it disappeared, so I mustn't have been the first one to do that

I got it once.

@Catija exactly

Only needs three, so ...

yeah, but that means it's pretty much case closed for this particular post ... belatedly put in tp- in Metasmoke

I've flagged it for the CMs to delete.

Tetsuya Yamamoto

4:42 AM

So you're implies "GMTB" exists such like "GMTC"?

@tripleee I flagged it. That's two.

There's two comments on the question that need flagging, if anyone wants to help.

gone now.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: fortraxitonetry.com/anamax-male-enhancement/ by xxzs on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: maximizedmuscleideas.com/male-booster-xl/ by jorglezid on english.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Why Indian cricketers don't play in foreign leagues? by Yogesh Borad on sports.SE

fp- by tripleee

5:16 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +4 more: fortraxitonetry.com/anamax-male-enhancement/ by xxzs on apple.SE

tpu- by tripleee

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Pure Cleanse Ultra Reviews | Pure Cleanse Ultra by Dorothy G Turner on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Catija

@SmokeDetector k

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link following arrow in body: Keto Advanced Weight Loss We are told in our general by Kimberlcott on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by tripleee

!!/blacklist-keyword foligen

@tripleee Blacklisted foligen

CI on 4635dbe succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 4635dbe (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of foligen by tripleee --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 12926.

!!/blacklist-keyword male\W?booster

5:29 AM

@tripleee Blacklisted male\W?booster

CI on ff6f11c succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev ff6f11c (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of male\W?booster by tripleee --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Is it worth to keep "India tour" under watch?

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…

Restart: API quota is 12922.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: equalization. Yes, you instrument probably by bigalshora on askubuntu.com

tpu- by tripleee

@AJ it's blacklisted, not watched ... yeah, 3/5 isn't too stellar

but it's part of some more-complex regex which might have better stats

Ohh

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: AMP Pages Not Indexing? by Ticket Halt on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by micsthepick

5:40 AM

I don't think it's spam.

sd - why

[:43787025] <skipped>
[:43787021]
Blacklisted user - blacklisted for //stackoverflow.com/a/49630878 (https://m.erwaysoftware.com/posts/by-url?url=//stackoverflow.com/a/49630878) by the metasmoke API

17 hours ago, by SFTP

Website's owner asking why Google indexes the pages in some way

Posted as an answer, got told not to; posted as a question.

A bad question, sure.

fp by micsthepick

!!/rmblu stackoverflow.com/users/9590991

5:44 AM

@AJ User removed from blacklist (9590991 on stackoverflow.com).

fp- by suraj

Doesn't FP remove user from blacklist?

@AJ generally it should yes

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: on Anamax Male Enhancement sporting capability by rbputoon on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: WalletAppKit creates an address every time Bitcoinj gets initialized by Bitcoin Promotion on bitcoin.SE

tpu- by PeterJ on on Anamax Male Enhancement sporting capability [MS]

tpu- by tripleee

!!/blacklist-keyword anamax

@tripleee Blacklisted anamax

5:52 AM

@tripleee It shouldn't give that message then, should it?

@AJ I'm guessing vaguely race condition but no, it basically shouldn't

CI on 579e84b succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 579e84b (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of anamax by tripleee --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

@tripleee ohh

Restart: API quota is 12778.

!!/watch niko\.eco

5:53 AM

@tripleee Added niko\.eco to watchlist

CI on 803d9c3 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

jinx

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 803d9c3 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of niko\.eco by tripleee --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 12762.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: It is good for skin care by Highend CBD on askubuntu.com

tpu- by tripleee

I was almost about to hit enter

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