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10:00 AM
CI on c2a550e succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 19866.
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
tpu- by suraj
[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on 240988b: The Travis CI build passed
 
Just invalidating some feedback, ignore smokey
 
fp- by ByteCommander on NOSY PEOPLE on your shit [MS]
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in answer, bad keyword in answer, link at end of answer: How do I install old programs saved from Windows? by Varsha Khemka on askubuntu.com
tpu- by DraconicPenguin on Configure reboot on Linux kernel panic [MS]
fp- by ByteCommander on Does physics refute the holocaust? [MS]
tpu- by suraj
 
@ArtOfCode/@Undo can you refresh the feedback cache on this post
 
What's the feedback cache?
 
@SmokeDetector this was later edited by OP to add disclaimer monero.stackexchange.com/questions/2498/… should we be blacklisting user?
 
@Henders it's basically an attribute attached to posts which decides whether it is TP, FP, NAA or conflicted, which makes it easier to query (e.g. in search), without having to compute its status every time
Occasionally it stuffs up and we get a post with a single feedback showing up as conflicted in search
 
[ charcoal-se.github.io ] github/pages failure on a2c7e38: Page build failed.
 
@angussidney Neat. And now it's no longer conflicting because of the invalidation, you can just update it?
 
10:11 AM
@SmokeDetector @angussidney can we have a separate message when a feedback is cleared. something like !tpu- maybe?
 
@Henders no, invalidation automatically updates it, that post just wasn't conflicting but for some reason was appearing in the 'conflicted' search
 
Ah I see
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya actually, this is a bug, those messages shouldn't be appearing when I invalidate feedback
There is a list of invalidated feedbacks avaliable at metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/admin/invalidated if you need it
 
@angussidney Oh it's a bug? It also appears when I clear my own feedback. No problem
 
That feeling when you invalidate Undo's feedback
 
@angussidney Wow, that's bold.
 
@angussidney Undo Undo's feedback
 
So this should be fp: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/81258 ? Is that because there is no actual link to spam?
 
10:22 AM
@SmokeDetector @angussidney sure this is tpu?
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya user had other similar spammy posts
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya there is link to a blog
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more: Clearly Zyflex Max is perceived by Besper stoont on superuser.com
tpu- by Henders
 
tentatively feeds back for fear of being smashed by an invalidation
 
@Henders well... what is it even trying to spam? Just looks like a bad question with chinese characters to me
 
10:24 AM
I thought we tpu- other languages?
 
No, they're NAA
Plus, the chinese text was already translated to english in the question
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more: Strongmen Male Enhancement by Strongmen Male Enhancement on askubuntu.com
tpu- by J F
 
@Henders no .. we generally do naa for answers and cv as unclear for questions unless the translation is rude/trollish
 
@suraj Linking to blog is spam if there is no clear sign of association?
 
> **Foreign-language posts on English sites (or vice versa)**

> Treat these as you would an English post. If it’s spam, offensive, etc., then mark it as k; otherwise use f or n.
 
10:26 AM
@angussidney There is just one another and it's not to the same domain.
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya if there is a clear history of such posts by the user..
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya generally I look for more than one of the following factors: user has other posts linking to the same site, no disclosure, answer looks spammy, was it an answer to a software rec question, does their link answer the question, etc
@AjayBrahmakshatriya yeah, I saw that one, but since there was no link or anything, I couldn't consider it spam
 
> 3808 feedbacks, 1 invalidated (0.03% invalid)
 
!!/test backlinkto.com
 
10:31 AM
> Pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 1-14: backlinkto.co
Body - Position 1-14: backlinkto.co
 
Please don't ruin my 0.03% :P
 
@Henders sorry
<pained emoticon>
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: supplement4help.com/massive-testo/ by dengekibunko on askubuntu.com
 
@angussidney That was self-invalidation before you could change your feedback :P
 
tpu- by J F
fp by Nisse Engström on display elements from db [MS]
 
10:33 AM
> 2737 feedbacks, 19 invalidated (0.69% invalid)
lol .69
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: supplement4help.com/massive-testo/ by user256479 on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
tpu- by J F
 
> 4725 feedbacks, 13 invalidated (0.28% invalid)
 
@Magisch Face::palm()
 
About 4 of those were invalidated by me :P
 
I'm trying to get back to 0.00% :P
 
10:35 AM
@angussidney <admin/>
 
Anyway, I've removed about 30 posts from the conflicted posts list, I think that'll do for tonight
 
@Henders to do that you'd need to get to 0,0049% so it'd round down. That means you need 20408 feedbacks without another invalid one.
 
@Magisch Seems achievable. Especially as you can change feedback now instead of invalidating.
I'll get back to you in 5 years :)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: www.garciniacambogialean.com/biogenic-xr by Foome1935 on askubuntu.com
tpu- by Henders
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: supplement4help.com/massive-testo/ by webide on astronomy.SE
tpu- by Henders
 
did we ever have lepide spam?
 
J F
10:41 AM
 
10:53 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: as much as tried and true govern by Alle stoont on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Cai
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: yahoo customer service by YahooCustomerService on android.SE
tpu- by ByteCommander
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Appropriate ways to dismiss street vendors? by Online Timesheet on interpersonal.SE
tpu- by ByteCommander
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: yahoo customer service by YahooCustomerService on android.SE
tpu- by Ajay Brahmakshatriya
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: he content material, pics and the by mrazoukr35 on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Cai
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: trycognimaxiq.com/viril-x/ by Notne1942 on askubuntu.com
tpu- by Ajay Brahmakshatriya
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Can metal ball casters be covered? by Mark Trod on diy.SE
 
11:09 AM
sd why
 
[:40128855]
Blacklisted user - blacklisted for //diy.stackexchange.com/a/123724 (https://m.erwaysoftware.com/posts/by-url?url=//diy.stackexchange.com/a/123724) by the metasmoke API
 
Hello, Mark. Why do you have that link at the end? What is your connection to that site? If you don't explain that, this answer will most likely be deleted as spam and your account banned. — NVZ 4 hours ago
@NVZ - I wonder if this could be construed as a little threatening. 'If you don't do x then y will happen'
 
NVZ
speak of the devil... and he shall appear.
is there a better canned comments that i can use?
 
Hmm, I haven't got one to hand but @Mithrandir normally has one he uses if I remember correctly.
 
NVZ
I'm not a native speaker so maybe my words are terse and quite forward.
 
11:13 AM
Yeah, I always try and err on the side of caution when I can
Providing links to the documentation and always assume good faith
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Notwithstanding unequivocally how by user370861 on meta.SE
 
(wow lucky Mith is not in the room because I had to edit that twice...)
 
tpu- by Henders
 
@NVZ you might want to use the comments here: github.com/Charcoal-SE/userscripts/blob/master/…
 
NVZ
thanks :)
and how do enable that as a script?
do i have to manually enter that into autoreviewcomments? or is there a default script for this?
 
11:20 AM
@NVZ I guess you don't have tampermonkey so start by installing that
 
@NVZ there is a standard non-charcoal script for autocomments, you need to use that and refer to that comments list, lemme find the link
 
!!/watch spurtcommerce\.com
 
@tripleee Added spurtcommerce\.com to watchlist
 
388
Q: AutoReviewComments - Pro-forma comments for SE

Benjol No more re-typing the same comments over and over! This script adds a little 'auto' link next to all comments boxes. When you click the link, you see a popup with 6 configurable auto-comments (canned responses), which you can easily click to insert. This script was inspired by answers to thi...

 
NVZ
@tripleee i do have tampermonky.
 
11:22 AM
CI on 477e5eb succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
 
@SmokeDetector still up, sorry for the nonsense edit
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: Has anyone bought a laptop from USA and shipped to India? by user773434 on superuser.com
Restart: API quota is 19070.
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Testosterone Production! by More phal on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Henders
 
11:23 AM
@SmokeDetector There is no spam link or contact details here
 
@Henders shopusa service
 
@Henders yeah, but a product name
 
!!/blacklist-website bellecomplexnorway\.com
 
@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in answer and Pattern-matching website in body; use !!/blacklist-website-force if you really want to do that.
 
NVZ
@SmokeDetector why
 
11:24 AM
@NVZ Post manually reported by user bummi in room Charcoal HQ.
 
24/24 over a year; below auto six months ago
!!/blacklist-website-force bellecomplexnorway\.com
 
@tripleee Blacklisted bellecomplexnorway\.com
 
@angussidney @bummi oh yeah, sorry. It's bad spam because I didn't know which spam brand it was for :P
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CI on 67dc364 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 19032.
 
NVZ
11:27 AM
I have tampermonkey, but not sure how to actually import the script into it? Where do i click? what do i do? github.com/Charcoal-SE/userscripts/blob/master/…
 
6 mins ago, by angussidney
388
Q: AutoReviewComments - Pro-forma comments for SE

Benjol No more re-typing the same comments over and over! This script adds a little 'auto' link next to all comments boxes. When you click the link, you see a popup with 6 configurable auto-comments (canned responses), which you can easily click to insert. This script was inspired by answers to thi...

 
if you click the "raw" link it will be brought up by Tampermonkey IIRC
 
NVZ
@SmokeDetector is this really important info to keep telling us?
 
@tripleee the comments.js file isn't actually the script
 
@angussidney oh right, my bad
 
NVZ
11:28 AM
nothing happended.
 
@NVZ first you'll need to download that 'AutoReviewComments' script that I linked
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted website in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Quickly lay objects in photoshop by kenneth on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by suraj
 
@NVZ it is because (a) it tells us it restarted properly and (b) it allows us to see when we run out of API quota
 
NVZ
@tripleee okay. thanks.
@angussidney that i have as an extension.
been using the chrome extension for quite a while.
 
@angussidney does that override closevoter pro-forma comments? I find it difficult to append from multiple sources..
 
11:29 AM
@suraj probably, I don't use it so I couldn't tell you
 
NVZ
but not sure how to automatically import the charcoal comments into it other than manually adding it
 
@NVZ anyway, press the 'auto' link on a comment to open up the dialog, then press remote (I think that's the name of the option you want), then paste this link: github.com/Charcoal-SE/userscripts/raw/master/…
 
NVZ
okay, will try that.
clicked remote, pasted the link, clicked on "get now". and it's still dancing around with blimpy lights. nothing happening.
ah, i give up. better my manual way.
 
11:53 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Your Fitness Diet & Health - Nutrition Wellness by rheasuzi on askubuntu.com
tpu- by suraj
 
tpu- by suraj
 
@bummi I'm sorry, can you explain how that relates here? it seems to be the domain name of the OP but I don't read Spanish too well, looks like a general EULA?
 
12:09 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer: How to verify if website has mixed content by Matthias Harter on stackoverflow.com
 
@tripleee usename and Nombre Comercial: CONNEXT
 
@SmokeDetector f
@bummi right, it might be the same domain name, but I guess that doesn't help us see whether it's spam or an innocent link?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: puresupplements786.com/vcor-male-enhancement/ by joirer on askubuntu.com
 
@angus feedback cache cleared
 
tpu- by suraj
 
12:14 PM
Hey Art
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +1 more: www.tryapext.com/ultavive-garcinia-be/ by Bikeasok on security.SE
tpu- by suraj
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body: world is amazing and the good thing by Betle phal on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by suraj
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: PHP Video Player by Gang13 on stackoverflow.com
naa- by suraj
 
@SmokeDetector user has other answers with questionable quality.. but dont see any proof of affiliation
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, +3 more: www.weightloss-spot.com/ultavive-garcinia/ by Alres1960 on askubuntu.com
 
@tripleee sorry, I can't reproduce my way to get to connext ... probably a mistake
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +3 more: getmenshealth.com/ultavive-garcinia/ by evie langdon on astronomy.SE
 
12:27 PM
@SmokeDetector k
 
12:41 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +4 more: getmenshealth.com/ultavive-garcinia/ by triclamost on askubuntu.com
tpu- by suraj
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: How can I replace these line in vb.net for windows form by Doll on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector why
 
@suraj Body - Position 4-11: rsOrder, Position 51-58: rsOrder, Position 527-534: rsOrder, Position 648-655: rsOrder
fp- by paper1111
 
That's just code...
@SmokeDetector why
 
@paper1111 Title - Health-themed spam (score 8). Keywords: hair, treatment, valu
fp- by paper1111
 
Variable names...
 
12:48 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: What is the relationship between recycling and sustainability? by Jeff on sustainability.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Simplest Android Activity Lifecycle by techclinch on stackoverflow.com
fp- by suraj
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Messaging number in body: How to prevent CDN content URLs being indexed by Google by unix_root on webmasters.SE
 
1:09 PM
@SmokeDetector f
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword in username: Magento seo question. Nofollow on top links like cart/login? by poker online on magento.SE
tpu- by suraj
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Draw my Contours by Lobster Crustacean on codegolf.SE (@quartata @Mego)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Draw my Contours by Lobster Crustacean on codegolf.SE (@quartata @Mego)
 
1:19 PM
sd 2k
 
tp- by DraconicPenguin
tp- by DraconicPenguin on Draw my Contours [MS]
tpu- by DraconicPenguin on www.weightloss-spot.com/ultavive-garcinia/ [MS]
fp- by DraconicPenguin on Can metal ball casters be covered? [MS]
naa- by DraconicPenguin on Can metal ball casters be covered? [MS]
 
1:41 PM
*le sigh*
This post had spam edited out: diy.stackexchange.com/questions/95206/…
Once reverted, I'll change the feedback to tpu-.
 
fp- by DraconicPenguin
 
@SmokeDetector why
 
@bwDraco Body - Position 1-211: <p>I've seen a similar issue -minus the VPN- resolved by adding a static hosts entry mapped to the target domain on the originating server. in your case, on the serer running the code: x.x.x.x domain.com </p>
tpu- by DraconicPenguin on Can metal ball casters be covered? [MS]
 
To hell with it.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: wordpress comment form fields not displaying by Toko bunga bekasi on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by DraconicPenguin
 
1:53 PM
@SmokeDetector k
@bwDraco It was approved by a mod sigh
 
@bwDraco since that DIY post does actually answer the question it's likely the user didn't know the rules about self promotion. We edit those out on SO all the time
 
Someone should mention that to them in TL
 
@bwDraco Ah. Is the one flaw of SE. Don't always see the history
 
@Machavity Actually, not. MetaSmoke is returning two entries for the same post.
Ah, okay. The new entry is edited.
That got me awfully confused.
 
Ah. Looked like a pattern. I hate it when that happens.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 1 out of 2): How to Force Stop multiple apps at once? by Vivek Kumar on android.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 2 out of 2): How can I force-stop all user applications that are running? by Vivek Kumar on android.SE
naa- by DraconicPenguin on Can metal ball casters be covered? [MS]
 
two user accounts same target
 
Changed it back to naa.
headdesk
 
tpu by DraconicPenguin
tpu by DraconicPenguin on How to Force Stop multiple apps at once? [MS]
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly dots in answer, mostly non-Latin answer: Persian (Jalali - Shamsi) Datepicker in Material AngularJS by SAeeD on stackoverflow.com
naa- by DraconicPenguin
 
2:28 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: newsupplements2017.com/varitonil/ by tusitrapuh on askubuntu.com
tpu- by ByteCommander
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Can I give flowers to a feminist as a present? by Mark on interpersonal.SE
 
2:47 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body: What is breaking this function with jQuery animations? by FiniteFractal on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Software for Windows for organization of ideas by Alex on softwarerecs.SE
fp- by ByteCommander
 
@SmokeDetector why
 
@ByteCommander Blacklisted user - blacklisted for //softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/a/43677 (m.erwaysoftware.com/posts/by-url?url=//…) by the metasmoke API
 
@SmokeDetector rmblu
didn't work, probably...
 
@ByteCommander User removed from blacklist (32355 on softwarerecs.stackexchange.com).
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly dots in body: how to target same website in different countrys by user77584 on stackoverflow.com
fp- by DraconicPenguin
 
3:08 PM
Low quality, but not spam.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: Is the "Rule of 3" proven for food? by user14062 on outdoors.SE
tpu- by DraconicPenguin
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
@SmokeDetector still up
 
@tripleee not anymore/
 
!!/location
 
3:34 PM
@Henders teward/Solar Flare
 
huh guess Lunar Eclipse died off because of the ebtables messup at the datacenter
 
Lunar eclipse is still pinging
on MS I mean
I think Angus' died and then solar flare was called up :P
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: New/Used Destination Trailers For Sale | Portland | Als Trailers by stopgims on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Is my script in violation of new TOS? by JohnMorris on meta.SE
 
3:47 PM
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
tpu- by teward
 
4:07 PM
A couple of ideas: Is there a way we can detect keyword stuffing?
> RV dealer Portland, RV sales in Portland, RV sales in Eugene, RV dealer in Eugene, RV services, RV rentals in Portland, RV Parts, RV accessories, New RVs for sale, New RV Trailers in Eugene.
 
!!/blacklist-keyword Als\W?trailers
 
@bwDraco You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1093 for you.
 
2/2 over 38 days, both below auto.
 
4:27 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Pregnancy and flying by a deleted user on health.SE
CI on c253380 succeeded.
 
@SmokeDetector why
 
@bwDraco Body - Position 303-314: Mayo Clinic
fp- by DraconicPenguin
 
Can we remove "Mayo Clinic" from the blacklist?
10/16, way too inaccurate.
 
we may wish to demote from blacklist and add it to the watchlist
because I still see spam with those keywords sometimes, Before MS/Smokey catches
 
19 mins ago, by bwDraco
2/2 over 38 days, both below auto.
tripleee-style!
5 hours ago, by tripleee
24/24 over a year; below auto six months ago
 
4:36 PM
rolls eyes, and slaps @bwDraco
 
@ThomasWard ?
 
oneboxing is evil
:P
 
lol
@ThomasWard Oneboxing spam posts is bad.
 
oneboxing [insert item here] is bad.
:P
 
I guess I missed the memo on the onebox meme. Just saw the room description.
 
4:38 PM
nah i just am annoyed at its overabuse recently in other rooms :P
 
lol
You just made my day.
 
5:08 PM
tpu- by DraconicPenguin
 
Why the hell would someone just paste several Unicode blocks of symbols in an answer?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, repeating words in body: List the hardest maths equation which have a relation to physics by Jie Gao on physics.SE
tp- by DraconicPenguin
 
5:26 PM
Restart: API quota is 14910.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: can't fetch data from mysql database with json file in android studio by moslem fathi on stackoverflow.com
fp- by DraconicPenguin
 
@SmokeDetector why
 
@bwDraco Body - Position 109-135: yakhforosh.skyf.ir, Position 182-208: yakhforosh.skyf.ir, Position 244-270: yakhforosh.skyf.ir, Position 321-347: yakhforosh.skyf.ir
 
@SmokeDetector What filter is responsible for this?
There's nothing obviously wrong with this website.
Is there a better way to determine precisely what pattern or keyword matched that URL?
 

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