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3:00 PM
!!/test rocket league
 
> Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in username
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Title - Position 1-14: rocket league
Body - Position 1-14: rocket league
Username - Position 1-14: rocket league
 
um folks
rocket league is like
a very popular game
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: What is the difference in Extension & Add Ons in Hybris by softcrylic on stackoverflow.com (@JakeSymons)
 
expect FPs until the end of time on arqade
 
tpu- by rene
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: Add css to button by Beginner on stackoverflow.com (@JakeSymons)
 
3:07 PM
@quartata cc @tripleee
(tripleee added that entry)
 
angus commented on it but I don't think anyone actually did an SE search
 
fp- by Bugs
 
which gives over 4,000 results
 
rocket league is like, the third most popular game on steam
 
should be knack 2 but alas
anyways we should probably unwatch that
 
3:35 PM
tpu- by ArtOfCode
 
!!/watch facebook-hacker\.org
 
@Glorfindel Added facebook-hacker\.org to watchlist
CI on e13f1d2 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 15054.
 
@ArtOfCode Would HMAC be OK for the blacklist tracker, or would you prefer something else
Trying to turn it from the demo to production usable
 
3:54 PM
@quartata gonna need context... HMAC of what, for what?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: allsupplement4u.com/alpha-male-enhancement/ by megansanch on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Cai
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: App Inventor 2 - Creating a simple alarm by sssss on stackoverflow.com (@JakeSymons)
tpu- by Bugs
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body, pattern-matching email in body: GET YOUR LOAN WITHOUT STRESS by Maphason Gary on money.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer: 403b employee contribution misclassified as employer contribution by Maphason Gary on money.SE
tpu- by Henders
tpu- by Henders on GET YOUR LOAN WITHOUT STRESS [MS]
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer, blacklisted user: Will I be turned down for a car loan? by Maphason Gary on money.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer, blacklisted user: Moving a personal business to a LLC accounting in California by Maphason Gary on money.SE
tpu- by Henders
 
4:30 PM
@ArtOfCode For authentication (need to know the key) to the blacklist tracker. I was going to digest whatever data was sent along with a timestamp that would be sent with it
 
...how does that authenticate you?
that's just a digest of client data
 
Proves you have an API key?
for computing the HMAC
authentication is misleading I suppose
anyways the point was I didn't know if there was something else you prefered that Metasmoke could do easily but it looks like you're computing HMACs in GithubController for the webhooks so you have a gem or whatever to do it already
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: DASDSADSAD GGGG by nbg ltd. on superuser.com (@JakeSymons)
 
@quartata I'm failing to see the point... why can't we do what we do with everything else? Have a list of keys, and check if the client sent a key from that list?
"it's crypto" doesn't necessarily equal "it's better"
 
tpu- by Henders
 
4:56 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Resistor power rating for short pulses by Ploddy on electronics.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, no whitespace in body, repeating characters in body: Show - block cipher F' defined using a block cipher F by KRypt on crypto.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
@SmokeDetector v
 
@SmokeDetector I'm always very tempted to just comment 'lol.' on those posts. sigh
 
@Henders I don't get it. Whats the point of them doing it?
 
@JakeSymons Doing what? Ranting?
 
@Henders just being annoying people
by ranting
 
5:00 PM
It's just frustration... People handle it in different ways
 
Some people explode. Some people post nonsense on the internet. Some people blowtorch their laptop. Some people get up from the computer, take a deep breath, knock their heads against the wall, and sit back down.
 
@Mithrandir but that's why we're here. Fighting back the spammers and annyers
 
Yup.
Some aliens blow up planets when they get annoyed, although I hear that you can get in legal trouble if you do that.
 
@ArtOfCode Is that what we do with MS?
 
@quartata yup
 
5:08 PM
If so we probably shouldn't -- HTTPS is great but we shouldn't rely on it to protect us
 
Why not?
 
Not because HTTPS isn't secure but rather it may not always be there in a perfect world
If someone needs to get an MS instance up in a hurry or something goes bad with our certificates
 
That's... not realistically an eventuality we need to defend for
 
I suppose you're not terribly interested in a defense in depth argument since MS isn't that important
well all right
 
We are defending the world against all the bad people that want to mess up our websites.
 
5:16 PM
@quartata you're talking to the crypto nerd :P crypto is good, but it has to be realistic crypto. There's no gain in defending against things that are very unlikely to happen
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Free online mathematical software by Megan Lofts on math.SE
 
Does anyone here know anything about limelinx.com? I removed a link to it from an old post recently because all I could see was a bunch of annoying in-your-face ads.
 
@SmokeDetector Is that an fp?
 
tpu by quartata
 
its hacked that website
I opened it and it locked my computer. I think I disabled internet quick enough that it didn't lock out the whole thing. Limelinx.com is complealty bad
It comes up that my computer has been blocked and my username and password is needed to access the website. Or I have an option to call them "toll free"
 
5:22 PM
tpu- by rene
 
@JakeSymons Yeah, that's what I thought. Thanks.
 
@NisseEngström for nearly getting my computer hacked for you?
@NisseEngström That was a joke.
 
@JakeSymons I didn't ask you to check... :-)
 
@NisseEngström could have actually locked it out
@NisseEngström then I wouldn't be able to post here :(
 
@JakeSymons I'd be VERY cautious about clicking spam links.
 
5:26 PM
@Mithrandir I deffinalty need to watch what I'm clicking more
That's what happened to my last laptop
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword with email in body, bad keyword with email in title, email in title: Get passport,id card,driving license,visas,permit etc.[macblatta@outlook.com\\$1 by melisabent on worldbuilding.SE
 
sd k
 
I'm using the MS button now so I don't annoy everyone by asking -Why all the time. :)
@DJMcMayhem If its illegal what their posting, what do we do. Fake passports are illegal right?
 
@JakeSymons That's beyond our responsibility. Flagging it is enough
 
@DJMcMayhem do we leave that for the FBI
 
5:32 PM
no
there's almost no chance they actually make fake passports
if they did they'd be smart enough not to advertise on SE
it's just a scam
 
@quartata so if I try and buy one id get scammed :(
- not really going to buy one
 
Angular 2 seems to be very good at giving me the most cryptic error messages possible
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Set up a Raspberry Pi Zero W without monitor or ethernet module by Vickey on raspberrypi.SE
naa- by Glorfindel
 
sd - autoflagged?
 
1. [:41123791] <skipped>
2. [:41123777] That post was **not** automatically flagged by metasmoke.
 
5:40 PM
oh nice, apparently calling something that isn't actually callable is just a warning
yeah y'know is no big deal
 
That's tricky. The combined weight of a bad NS and a .pk or .ir website is already close (148) to what some people have set for autoflagging on some sites which are spam magnets.
 
Is there a way of setting up notifications if I am not pinged. I know the number comes up at the top but is there a way that they flash on my desktop??
 
@Glorfindel should we raise the default autoflagging threshold and ask all users to follow suit, or artificially reduce the weight of the NS rule, or something else?
@JakeSymons there's a userscript which plays a boing sound and displays a badge for every spam notice in this room
 
@tripleee how do I get it?
 
I vastly preferred that to pings, but right now, I have neither
@JakeSymons there's a userscripts section on the website we link to in the room description, but hang on
 
5:51 PM
@tripleee I don't think we need to do anything. 150 weight is low, but it has the required accuracy. If people have their autoflag threshold set to 150, then false positives is what they signed up for.
 
the one called "Spamtracker by Ferrybig" on the page charcoal-se.org/scripts
 
wasn't there also Henders's
 
@ArtOfCode mmmmm disclaiming all responsibility is not very attractive, I feel we could do something more to avoid FPs here
 
@tripleee how do I set it up. DO I copy it into console
 
@quartata there have been various incarnations of this userscript
@JakeSymons you need greasemonkey or the other plugin which enables userscripts, the name elides me
hmmm, this should be at least briefly summarized on the userscripts page
 
5:54 PM
tampermonkey
 
Could I use !!/notify for everything
 
Please dont
 
@JakeSymons you could but that's annoying, above all else for yourself when you're away for a week and try to find out whether there were actually useful pings in your inbox when you come back
 
I can always turn it off
 
but also because it adds a ping to the end of each and every notification
 
5:56 PM
I know I only have it for superuser and stackoverflow
 
@JakeSymons you can't usually predict when you fall ill or have stressors in real life which take precedence over your favorite hobby here
 
@tripleee Can I have it so that it only pings for superuser, stack overflow, raspberry pi and meta stackexchange talk
 
@JakeSymons sounds pretty reasonable to me, but some users here might disagree
 
that's a yes
 
@tripleee How does it annoy other people if it just pings me. Does it come up for other people as well?
 
5:59 PM
@JakeSymons no, it's just the ping suffix on those notices ... if it grows long because many users sign up for notifications, it obscures the reasons so you have to click to see them, but most users here already have userscripts which fetch the full why list for them anyway
 
okay, so if I just do it then that's okay, but if lots of people do it then its bad.
How do I do it anyway, I haven't got the hang of it yet. DO I just do !!/notify and it works
 
yeah, that's pretty much it (-:
there was heated debate over in the SOCVR room when the suffix list there grew long, there was one user who could not be reached to ask him to disable pings, appanrently precisely his inbox was already full of them
@JakeSymons the notify command requires two arguments, the room id and the site you want notifications for
 
@JakeSymons The given SE site does not exist.
 
no protocol on the front of the site
 
6:03 PM
the chat client hides the https:// but it's there and you need to leave it off
 
!!/notify 11540 meta.stackexchange.com
 
@JakeSymons You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on meta.stackexchange.com, in room 11540 on chat.stackexchange.com
 
!!/notify 11540 raspberrypi.stackexchange.com
 
@JakeSymons You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on raspberrypi.stackexchange.com, in room 11540 on chat.stackexchange.com
 
@tripleee Sorted, thanks for that
 
6:05 PM
what Art said (-;
@quartata thanks for noticing, CI in progress now
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 9f6c1dd (tripleee: -rocket\W?league --autopull) (running on angussidney/EC2)
Restart: API quota is 13363.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Phone number detected in body, phone number detected in title: Microsoft office 365 support +1-800-826-8068 by Glane Mabell on travel.SE
tpu- by Henders
 
Quick Question - How much rep do I need to "officially" join as in I will be able do things
and called a member not just some guy that tags along to the forums
 
We don't have many official ranks
And no real hard criteria
It's all based on common sense, more or less
 
@Magisch so roughly cause I've got 1 rep so that's to low
 
I have no idea
 
6:20 PM
It's highly advised to have the association bonus, though.
 
I won't be the one making the decision
 
@Magisch how much rep do you have
 
Around 6,5k on stack overflow, 15k on the workplace, 4,5k on meta se and 1,6k on IPS
But that isn't necessary
 
@Magisch do I need over 100 though??
 
You would suppose so, yes
Association bonus is 200 I think
 
6:22 PM
Yup, which immediately becomes 300
 
So, I'll go and get my rep up, and leave you to fight the spam
Keep Smokey off my back :)
@DavidPostil if I flag something on superuser will you see it because you are the mod
 
@JakeSymons I believe it will enter a queue which is handled by whoever happens to be doing the queues, there are multiple mods on all the sites
 
There are nine moderators on Super User.
 
So one of them will get ti
 
6:30 PM
I'll be anwserign questions now, Yule be able to ping me
 
Some flags push things into the review queues, some have to be handled by mods.
@NobodyNada I spy... Nobody.
o/
 
!!/blacklist-website microsoftoutlookoffice365\.com
 
@tripleee Blacklisted microsoftoutlookoffice365\.com
 
3/3 all below auto
 
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6:34 PM
!!/watch (?:1\W*)?800\W*826\W*8068
 
@tripleee Added (?:1\W*)?800\W*826\W*8068 to watchlist
 
FR: OCR for Smokey (kidding)
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
6:36 PM
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
CI on 4bfb3fa succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
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the phone number is actually 2/2 already, there's a title hit I didn't see at first
!!/blacklist-keyword (?:1\W*)?800\W*826\W*8068
 
@tripleee Blacklisted (?:1\W*)?800\W*826\W*8068
CI on 04e1161 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
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!!/watch softcrylic\.com
 
@tripleee Added softcrylic\.com to watchlist
CI on f9e31e9 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
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!!/blacklist-keyword (?:1\W*)?858\W*412\W*7054
 
6:42 PM
@tripleee Blacklisted (?:1\W*)?858\W*412\W*7054
CI on 15a2fd2 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 12982.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer: Force external link in Excel to break if the file can't be found by TVDN on superuser.com (@JakeSymons)
fp- by NobodyNada
 
why are Microsoft and support counted as keywords
 
@JakeSymons Because of some spam targeting Microsoft users, probably.
 
@NisseEngström That makes sense
@NisseEngström and we fight back the spam
 
'support' and words like 'windows' 'Gmail' 'Microsoft' etc get detected when they're in the same post.
 
7:04 PM
@JakeSymons A few more "hard" criteria: You need reputation on at least one site and a history of good flags. You need to participate in a room that SmokeDetector posts in to deal with posts. Permissions are granted based on your history in the room and your history on the sites. Participation generally grants you reputation, so more participation = more reputation.
It's important to know that you can utilize SmokeDetector's reports and flag without providing feedback here. You can deal with the bad posts without needing permissions to the bot.
 
@Mithrandir this is an example of an overtly broad regex but it contributes good spam detections enough of the time that we live with a few FPs (though I suppose it could probably be improved to reduce the FP rate)
^ well for Jake really; Mithrandir sorry for the spurious ping
 
@Andy How do I deal with the bad posts. And does this count as a room that SmokeDetector posts in
 
@JakeSymons Flag them on the site. You need reputation to flag a post. Once you have that, you can click "Flag" and deal with it that way.
 
@Andy I need to get my rep up
Like so bad
 
Indeed
 
7:14 PM
Please don't just post for the sake of rep, though - it's important to make sure that your posts are useful, well written, and follow the guidelines.
 
@Mithrandir I'll be off making usfull post
 
I personally find that sites such as Science Fiction & Fantasy are much easier to use than Stack Overflow and Super User but that may be because I'm not a technical person ;)
 
@Mithrandir yeah, I stick to Superuser as I can normally try things out on my laptop before giving the anwsers
Which I nearly broke earlier clicking on a spam link from here
Getting back to answering the questions ... long days of getting rep real slow ahead :)
 
@Mithrandir Aye, SO can be quite intimidating (why I've got such low rep there :p)
 
I have one post there, from last year's Google Code In
I think I'll take it again this year and see if I can get away with doing almost no actual code again
 
7:23 PM
I'm looking down the 60K unawnsered questions trying to find something I can actually anwser
 
7:39 PM
!!/Active
 
You're backwards. It's !!/, not //!
 
@DJMcMayhem just changed it
!!/active
 
Edits don't work
Also,
!!/alive
 
@DJMcMayhem Yup
 
not !!/active
!!/coffee
 
7:40 PM
@DJMcMayhem brews coffee for @DJMcMayhem
 
@DJMcMayhem yeah, I need to have the commands list open when I'm using it
@SmokeDetector not detected anything for a while
 
Eventually you'll know all the commands offhand ;)
 
@Mithrandir eventually
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword in username: Create a table from MySQL using PHP PDO by website development patna on codereview.SE
 
@SmokeDetector right on cue
 
7:42 PM
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@SmokeDetector k
Apparently FDSC isn't working for me
 
Just talking about how it doesn't dect things for a while then comes straight up
 
FDSC is slightly buggy.
 
I think I have awoken all the spammers by complaining there was no posts
 
7:44 PM
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
naa- by Glorfindel
 
Not positive if that's k or n
 
@Mithrandir what does FDSC stand for
 
!!/watch techrenters\.com
 
@Glorfindel Added techrenters\.com to watchlist
 
its all happening now
 
7:45 PM
@DJMcMayhem me neither. The username is spammy as well ('obat' is Indonesian for 'medicine/drug').
 
@SmokeDetector n
@JakeSymons Flag Dialog Smokey Controls
It's a userscript.
 
@Mithrandir ok
@Glorfindel This time I am not going to check like I did last time.
 
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techrenters has no log on Norton Website Check
Unknown location to and no screenshot
 
I don't follow 99.9% of the links in those posts either.
 
7:48 PM
@Glorfindel I had to complealty restart my laptop. Which wasn't that bad considering I've had to buy a whole new one doing that
At least it gives me a reason for an upgrade :)
Smokey Quiet this evening (or morning)
 
Ooh, that's a hard lesson. I'm lucky to have a Mac, so less risk, but not completely risk-free either.
@JakeSymons yes. We see that most of the spam comes from India, and it's ~2am there right now.
Even spammers need sleep sometimes ...
 
@Glorfindel yeah, its ~8 at night in uK
So a little time left before sleep
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in body: Is CBD oil and hemp oil the same? by hemp on tex.SE
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
@SmokeDetector agreed
I can't actually do anything as I don't have admin so I'm just left with #agree.
 
7:57 PM
It'd be nice if you got 200 reputation on one of the sites. That makes you qualify for the association bonus, so you can cast actual spam flags everywhere.
 
@Glorfindel Still trying to get past 2 rep
200s like so far away
 
@JakeSymons like it was said earlier, 'admin' means something specific here. 'privileges' are something else.
!!/whois admin
 
@Mithrandir I am aware of 5 admins. Currently in this room: Andy, ArtOfCode. Not currently in this room: Undo, angussidney, tripleee.
 
@Mithrandir I'm trying to get whichever is easier
which is privileges not admin right?
 
heh
yes
 
8:00 PM
Hah.
Good luck finding prvialges ;)
 
@Mithrandir I never can spell like ever
 
Protip: spelcheec.
 
Spellcheck always messes me up.
Spellcheck can go to he'll
 
@DJMcMayhem yep
like autocorrect - never understands anything
Any tips on how to answer a lot of questions
I normally hang around the real-time questions do the easy ones
Then go on the answered tags and have a look
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body: I have problems with loading javascripts by Gorgi on wordpress.SE
 
8:11 PM
!!/test healthcare.gov
 
> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.
 
just checking before I used it
 
fp- by Glorfindel
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, +2 more: Your body maintenance or replaces Proshred Testo by Proshred Testo on astronomy.SE
 
8:15 PM
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How to calculate average bed and wake time? by KennethMPittman on superuser.com (@JakeSymons)
 
@SmokeDetector is giving the source website okay when answering question?
 
@JakeSymons it's required and called attribution.
If you don't do it, it's plagiarism.
 
@Glorfindel so is using that link allowed then
 
Of course, a user copy-pasting several answers from a single site is suspicious.
 
8:24 PM
why do some links come up and not others
like !!/www.google.com
sorry
!!/test www.google.com
 
> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.
 
what websites flag when tested
 
@JakeSymons I'm ... not sure yet. I don't see where that content is supposed to be copied from.
 
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
I did a google search with "" around it for the site and nothing came up for the code or the top bit
 
8:27 PM
!!/watch beddingaid\.com
 
@Glorfindel Added beddingaid\.com to watchlist
 
!!/test beddingaid.com
 
> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.
 
@JakeSymons you have to wait until Smokey restarts.
 
@Glorfindel oops I forgot
 
8:28 PM
@JakeSymons it depends. We have blacklisted some well-known spam sites, those are detected every time they're used.
This one wasn't known, but a link at the end of the answer is surprisingly often a spam link.
 
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its restarting now isn't it
 
Restart: API quota is 11951.
 
!!\test beddingaid.com
 
use a slash (/) instead of a backslash
 
8:30 PM
!!/test beddingaid.com
 
> Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in username
----------
Title - Position 1-15: beddingaid.com
Body - Position 1-15: beddingaid.com
Username - Position 1-15: beddingaid.com
 
It works
 
> Url in title
----------
Title - Position 1-18: https://imgur.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected: "good lay in" --> what does "in" stand for here? by mr.M4n on english.SE
 
8:40 PM
@SmokeDetector why
 
@JakeSymons Post - Offensive keywords: whore, whore, whore, whore
fp- by Glorfindel
 
Wow, that was an interesting post
Just a random add that has popped up in my browser
I was only on this site don't know where its come from
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Phone number detected in title: how to create a facebook business page 1-888 524 8675 by emma on superuser.com (@JakeSymons)
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@SmokeDetector just a rant
 
@JakeSymons I don't know either. It also depends on your browser history.
 
8:48 PM
@Glorfindel of all the things that could come up
sheep
 
@JakeSymons eh ... no. They post that, hoping you will dial that number. Which is probably an expensive service to call, and they'll keep you on the line.
 
@Glorfindel so more then a rant
a scam
 
@JakeSymons Yep.
 

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