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17:06
only route I've seen with very little variation so far was 13; dugtrio/gibble/trapinch and nothing else. not even any hordes with them.
yes that was one of the more annoying ones
wait gible is there?
@BenBrocka I think gibble had a lower encounter rate, but he was there.
17:25
@BenBrocka You're going to have to transfer him/her to either B/W or B2/W2, because PokeBank is only going to work with those.
I know I'm going to borrow a friend's black (or was it black 2)
As for the variation on routes, I'm guessing they're trying to give more variety instead of endless repeat Pokemon like in former games, but that's just a hunch.
@BenBrocka Also, if it's got any held items they won't cross over.
Not that they're very important anyway.
If you trade often, don't forgot to do Game Sync and go to the Global Link.
You can spend Pokemiles there and the inventory is a lot less expensive than Lumiose.
@BenBrocka I wonder how that'll work, because afaik Nintendo doesn't have any definitive system where you can login to a universal account yet.
@user56652 They're probably going to use the Trainer Club thing that they did for Dream World.
17:32
Probably.
@user56652 really? Huh. OH wlel, I really just want the pokemon
@user56652 yeah, it seems pretty well designed, makes good use of the backlog of pokemon
instead of hiding >60% behind generation transfers and postgame national pokedex unlocks
@user56652 there's that game sync thing
I think I'm going to spend today farming the Battle Chateau.
female team flare admin lookin' pretty good
@Yuki I heard the 3 star restaurant double battles thing is better
@BenBrocka It is, but farming at the Battle Chateau will eventually give higher level trainers.
Oh, didn't know that
17:38
The Gym Leaders come back and so do the Elite Four.
they've been 15 for me forever
but I'm just a viscountess
mega gangar is so cool
Heck, if you get one of the level boost writs, the Champion comes at you with L80 Pokemon.
hah shedinja still just shows up in your party with zero warning
In fact, I think I unlock the Gym Leaders if I rank up one more time.
@BenBrocka The game sync garbage is a poor excuse for not having universal accounts. There's no good reason why you can't be able to sign into an account on your 3DS.
17:42
Taunt + Sucker Punch is eeeeeeeevil.
@user56652 I meant that might be how they do it. Nintendo is still terrible about online
@Yuki Is there anyway for a Pokemon to resist the taunt?
@user56652 Nope.
Well, maybe.
Lemme check.
@Yuki Do you want a male Eevee with a particular nature? I've got about 11-12 of them from last night.
Okay, can only be blocked the abilities Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.
Yeah. Taunt is a big counter against that Aegislash moveset someone was talking about earlier.
17:45
@Yuki If not I'll just get rid of them with Wonder Trade or maybe put them on the GTS.
@user56652 Hmm... I might go for a Modest or Timid.
I'll take modest ones if you don't want em
Timid is -Atk +Spd, right?
my rival is so stupid
uses the same low power attack every turn in these double battles
I think I've got one or two modest ones, but I'll have to double check later. I'm probably going to go through breeding again so I can get another female Eevee.
Leveling up Eevee's Affection in Amie was sort of a pain in the butt. You have to feed it, pet it, and then play games to get rid of it's fullness.
17:48
I think it only needs two hearts
Yay, I'm a Marquis!
er...is Inferno even worth learning?
It seems like a worse fire blast, though I assume it always burns?
@BenBrocka It needs to have effection maxed out according to Serebii.
@BenBrocka It still says "may". I'd give it a pass.
Heck, I prefer Flamethrower to Fire Blast.
It says "this leaves the target with a burn"
17:49
@BenBrocka Never mind, you're right.
There is a plus side though. Apparently keeping your bond up gives you a small advantage in battles, which is good for when I need to farm Pokemon or hunt.
Serebii says "Secondary: May cause a burn" but then puts 100% in the effect chance column.
still 5PP and 50% accuracy seem pretty meh, I'll stick with flamethrower I think
Confused me.
huh, yeah the in game wording clearly implies 100%
17:50
@Yuki Breeding is pretty fun. I had to use this to do the walking part though:
It shouldn't harm the joystick, but just in case swap sides every so often.
I'm too scared that will reck the already shitty circle pad
@user56652 Eh, I don't feel like doing that. It's not terribly efficient.
Because you should be depositing each hatched Pokemon and getting another egg every time.
it seemed pretty quick just running in a circle manually on a bike with flame body
in one of those circle plazas
@Yuki What's the more efficient way? that's what I'm doing.
I've got two eggs in my bag, and I circle until one hatches. Then I fly back to the care center, and drop it off in the PC then get the new egg from the man.
why aren't you waiting for 5 eggs?
that's what I do
17:53
@user56652 that.... seems like more work than just absentmindedly going back and forth in a straight line.
@BenBrocka 5 eggs from the man? how long is the cool down for when he gives you a new egg?
nah the circle thing is legit because you can just hold the circle pad and wait instead of fiddling with it
@user56652 a certain amount of steps I think? I've been doing other things so every time I talk to him there's an egg
@BenBrocka yeah, but if you fly back every time one hatches...
@BenBrocka Not really, if you don't hold it in place you'll drift and hit an NPC which will stop your progress.
Using a card or something is the easiest method I found.
But you say I should wait till I have 5 eggs then do them all at once?
You can just hold it directly to the right/left and you'll circle any of the "squares" or whatever
well then you can let 5 eggs hatch, and there will probably be one more egg by the time you go back
17:55
@BenBrocka Or I could just use the D-Pad.
@user56652 Depends on what Pokemon you have in the daycare. If they have different IDs, the CD for a new Egg is shorter.
@BenBrocka I usually get a new Egg every time I hatch one, at most two.
I haven't beaten the main game, and I'm already obsessed wit breeding. Is that a bad thing? lol
@user56652 That's me, so you're good.
there are many ways to play pokemon
@Yuki Do breaded Pokemon (like my 10+ Eevee's) have different ID's?
17:57
@user56652 No. Every Pokemon you hatch takes your ID.
no, trainer IDs he means I think
e.g. traded pokemon
By ID, I mean the OT (Original Trainer) ID.
@Yuki Well when you gave me your Ditto that clearly had a different OT ID.
if I use GTS will the game stop nagging me?
@BenBrocka Nope, I wish there was a way to turn that notification off.
17:58
@user56652 Yeah. Talking to the guy should say "they get along". That means you have a higher chance of getting an Egg every time you take a couple steps, which means lower CD on eggs.
@user56652 seriously? I thought it was just a nag to goad people into using it once. THat's good design. Constant nagging...ehhhh
12 more levels until Rough Play...
You can do it, Mawile.
I just go back and fourth in front of the daycare. If one hatches, I'm usually right by the daycare to drop it off and pick up a new egg. unless the Pokemon egg has an obscenely long hatch requirement (even with flame body), I don't see any use flying elsewhere to run in circles.
@Yuki They are "getting along". By the way if you happen to find a spare foreign Ditto then I'd like to trade you for it. I'm working on getting you that female Fennekin btw.
I guess I can go entertain myself by grabbing all the TMs I missed.
17:59
yeah the darecare road is actually really good for hatching eggs now
I'm sure that's intentional
@TrentHawkins The average is steps to hatch is 1000 or something like that? screw it. I'll stick to my credit card, and circle trick.
It's not like it's cheating or anything.
@BenBrocka Considering how pretty much every other road is slanted or has detours, I think you're right.
it's actually pointed out in-game as the longest straight road somewhere
Why did they try to make breeding harder (again)? like having ridiculously low female rates, and that type of crap.
Hmm... going to check what I can buy for BP.
18:02
I don't think female rates changed
@user56652 The starters and Eevee have always had that low female rate.
Gender distribution has been the same since they implemented it.
but for some pokemon (starters, I think Eevee too) female rates are low basically to make it harder
which is annoying since eevees are now catchable in the wild, not super rare one per game only
@Yuki Any reason why the developers hate breeders?
ugh why are PR videos such a hassel to send? I shouldn't have to save my game and answer modal dialogs
@BenBrocka Turn off "Forced Saving", and that should stop it from asking you to save.
18:03
@user56652 Gen VI is actually very breeder-friendly.
oh really? I figured that would just default to no which would keep me from doing things
I'm going to name my Fennekin Holo asap.
@Yuki Friend safari unlocks after the elite 4, yes?
Hidden Abilities can be passed down through Males now, Destiny Knot passes down 5 IVs, etc.
@TrentHawkins Yes.
@BenBrocka Why would they add a setting that would intentionally swap itself back? that'd be self-defeating.
18:05
Wow, BP is really easy to get this gen.
I just went on a 18-win streak and got 26 BP.
@Yuki ... ok, later today I'll make a larger effort to push towards that instead of dicking around.
And you get BP after every battle instead of having to defeat 5 trainers before getting some.
What is the advantage of heading to the Friend Safari anyways?
I don't suppose I can change skin color? My icon looks like normal skin but my in-battle model looks almost pure white, which is odd
@user56652 Friend Safari lets you get some Pokemon you probably won't find elsewhere and if your Friend is online, his Safari can get you Pokemon with Hidden Abilities.
18:06
@user56652 Hidden abilities, potentially pokemon that don't natively exist in Kalos, starters...
And some Hidden Abilities are ridiculous.
Torchic, which you get from the Wi-Fi event, has Speed Boost as his Hidden Ability which increases your Speed every turn.
and @fbueckert's has gibble. I want me a rough skin Gibble.
@Yuki So I could get a Skitty with say a Wonder Skin hidden ability?
And Fletchling, the Pidgey of this generation, can get Gale Wings which makes all Flying-types moves take priority, essentially making them like Quick Attack.
@user56652 Yes.
I really wish you could change abilities somehow
18:09
@Yuki I need to do that then.
@BenBrocka You can.
If they have another, non-Hidden, ability, you can swap it with the Ability Capsule.
on an existing pokemon?
Costs 200 BP.
@BenBrocka Yep.
oh, eh I think Weavile's good ability is the hidden one. But that's still cool
You have to beat the Elite Four to be able to buy the Ability Capsule though.
18:10
I have a gen 4 weavile I want to bring back, but she has Pressure since that's all weaviles had at the time
For the record though "Super Training" is easier then "EV Training" (in the old games), it still is a hassle. I can't dodge any of those soccer balls to save my life.
@BenBrocka Well, we have several people whose Friend Safari has Sneasel.
If they log on, I can try to get one with the Hidden Ability.
@user56652 use L for the shield
@Yuki Oh... non-hidden ability. There was a kid in some town that mentioned it was possible, but he didn't elaborate.
So how do I get a Skitty the Wonder Skin ability exactly? I've been wanting one for ages.
I guess I should unlock the Friend Safari asap.
@BenBrocka Suddenly I feel really stupid, thanks for the help though.
18:11
I hate online identities compounded by the trainer name. I still don't know who half the people in my friends list are in pokemon
(granted I'm part of the problem, my Mii is named ben but my trainer is Esya)
@BenBrocka I know Yuki only, because of the freaky looking Panda hat.
I hope girls get something other than that hat, because I'd never wear it
Anyways, as much as I'd love to stall out on my work here I really do need to get this school work done for my courses. Cya.
@BenBrocka I wish the 3ds friend list kept the temporary name I gave people... I tended to go with "Arq-BenBro" type naming convention for arqade users.
@user56652 Whoo, freaky Panda hat!
Lessee, @OrigamiRobot, and... "Flaky" have Sneasel in their Friend Safari.
18:17
@TrentHawkins yeah nicknames would be cool
@Yuki Before I go. How'd you know I have that before I even got to my Friend Safari in-game?
then again I gave several people random characters as names because I knew it would replace them anyway
Is it preset when you start a new game?
@user56652 It's determined by your Friend Code.
So even if you start a new game, it still stays the same.
@Yuki Is the Friend Code set my the console?
18:18
@user56652 I think so. Not sure about that.
anyone want to send some prize money power?
Now I've really gotta go.
actually save it for capture power...gonnaget yvettal soon
Yay, one of my friends has the Fairy-type for their Friend Safari.
@BenBrocka I can do both.
Gimme a sec.
I'll send Prize Money, then tell me when you want Capture Power.
I think Fairy is becoming my favorite type. If you told me this a month ago, I would've punched you in the face.
oops I think I started the yvetal battle
is it too late for capture power?
oh good it disabled false swipe and I killed it. Nice one yvetal. Reloading...
18:25
Now, to find a pokemon with Warm Body.
catch a bunch of fletchlings, the second evo can have flame body
@Yuki can you send your best capture power?
@BenBrocka I sent L2.
that must have been when I reset or something, not active anymore
@BenBrocka I heard that you can't not capture Yveltal. Killing him just makes you fight him again.
I'll just wait
@Yuki really? I reset the moment his HP hit zero
18:28
@BenBrocka Sent.
@BenBrocka Well, apparently, you get a small cutscene and then fight him again.
got it, thanks
At least, that's what I heard.
I'll see if I get that if I screw up again
so is xernias in this egg if you have X? I'm not sure how he would fit into the same role
@BenBrocka He's a tree in X.
And they try to drain his life force to power the thing.
ohhh...see I figured it was Yvetal who would be doing the whole murder thing
capture power is OP. A single luxury ball did it
that or his capture rate is fairly high
jesus he's 19 feet all
18:31
I want to say that Capture Power is OP because it was my Capture Power.
Want to trade Yveltal for Xerneas and back for the Pokedex entries?
I already got a Xerneas from Chris since he reset his game, but we can do that just so you have the entry
...why are we fighting on the surface of the sun
Holy crap oblivion wing
it's like Flying giga drain
Y'know what's a dick move? Wonder Trading a level 1 Simisage.
Luckily, the one I got had an Adamant Nature, so I used it for breeding.
I need to catch a Floette and never evolve it.
18:37
@BenBrocka I prefer Floette's design to Florges.
I don't care for either, I just want the pokedex entries
I might use Floette for Double Battles if we ever do those.
I think I'm going to change my hat. The novelty of the Panda Hat has worn out.
Oh yeah, I need to check out the Unknown Dungeon.
19:04
which town had that person who wanted to see a really tall pokemon?
lol I saw an execute and for a moment I thought it was a horde of pokemon
@BenBrocka Laverre, I think.
Also, the Unknown Dungeon is not much of a dungeon.
Just a room with Mewtwo in it.
@Yuki yep that's it, thanks
@Yuki that's...huh. They could have at least recreated the original or something
Anybody have a clue as to what would cause a 3DS to crash shortly after start-up?
Apparently, my sister's 3DS is on the fritz so she can't play Y.
the 3DS OS crashes? Never had that happen
19:26
All right, I just unplugged and replugged the battery.
Hopefully, that works.
Ugh.
No beans.
I'm a little wary about opening it up and tinkering with it.
I'm pretty sure I'm capable, I used to do it to fix my PSP.
But I don't want to accidentally bust my sister's 3DS. Even though she wants me to open it.
Ugh, it's $85.00 to send it in to Nintendo.
And it's $130 for a 2DS...
Anybody want to send me a Capture Power so I can catch Mewtwo?
@Yuki a refurbished 3DS is $100 I think
@BenBrocka Dang. Might just buy one of those instead of sending this 3DS in.
Or I could tinker with it now, knowing that buying a refurbished one is only $15 more expensive than sending it in to Nintendo.
my bunnelby is evolving into the worst pokemon of the generation! Yay
"k guys we need to make a rabbit pokemon"
"let's make it cute--"
"Let's make a morbidly obese freakishly mutated monstrosity"
"brilliant."
sent you a capture power
Lvl 1 is all I can do atm tho
Oh hey, I'm fighting the Electric Gym Leader again.
Oh, I think my 3DS case came in the mail.
20:23
@Yuki What exactly did you to your (or your sisters?) 3DS?
Is the battery dead or whats the matter with it?
I don't know what happened to it. She just brought it to me and says she gets an error screen about a minute and a half after she starts it up.
@Yuki The error should have a reference code you can look up online. What's the error code explanation?
@user56652 Doesn't have an error code. It just says "An error has occurred. Look at support.nintendo.com".
@Yuki That's strange. Is it when she boots up the console or is it when she starts a certain game?
@user56652 Boots up the console, crashes shortly afterward. She can get a game started, but it crashes soon anyways.
20:27
Actually (I don't know your sisters age) she may have turned off her 3DS (or it could have ran out of life) during an update. That's known to "brick" Nintendo consoles.
Ask her what she was doing with it before it broke, and see if she mentions an update.
@user56652 Great...
It's been awhile so I don't even know if she remembers.
@Yuki It's just a hunch, because if you turn off the console/handheld (or it dies) during an update, that's known to kill consoles.
@user56652 And no way of fixing it, I'm guessing?
@Yuki Not that I know of. The only way to restore everything to defaults is from the [booted] 3DS.
Trying to run another update might work.
20:31
@fbueckert The 3DS crashes before he can even do anything, so that's not an option.
@user56652 If it crashes shortly after boot, there might be time to hit the system update.
@fbueckert Maybe.
@Yuki How much time goes by before it crashes once you have it started up?
@user56652 About a minute or so.
@Yuki That could be long enough to go to the settings menu, and attempt a system update (or resetting it to default settings).
If you're not already aware then go here: nintendo.com/3ds/system-update
It's kind of a hunch, but it might work.
Yeah. I don't have enough time. I guess I'll have to open 'er up.
20:35
@Yuki Also, when it crashes do you get a blank (black) screen or does the console turn itself off?
@user56652 Black screen that says "An error has occurred. Hold the Power button to shut off. Go to support.nintendo.com" or something like that.
I've read that there have been issues with the Location Settings that cause crashes. See here.
@Yuki Does the SD card have anything on it, or have you tried taking it out?
Kind of taking a stab in the dark now, but if it can save her 3DS...
@Krazer Is that Kirby or a variant of Kirby?
it's golden waddle dee
8 more levels...
20:46
@Yuki So is that 3DS a lost cause or what do you think you could do with it?
@user56652 I'm gonna try one thing they suggested online.
Which is to unplug and replug the Wifi card.
Unfortunately, some of the tertiary screws make a creaking sound when I try to unscrew them so I don't know if I want to do that.
Does your sister treat the console well or is she little? that could have something to do with it (like how much the console may or may not endured).
My sister had an SP (the clam shell GBA), and it broke within a month or two. At the time she was 7 or 8.
She's 13 and she treats it pretty well.
@Yuki Ok, I was trying to ask without sounding too insulting.
@user56652 Nah, it's a legitimate question.
20:54
Hey @Yuki why do people tend to dislike Eevee?
I know quite a people hate them with a passion, but I love mine.
@user56652 I don't usually see that.
The only thing I can think of is that people hate having to catch/breed multiple Eevee to get the Pokedex data on its evolutions.
14 hours ago, by Madara Uchiha
@user56652 If a Sylveon would sneak his(her) way into my party:
Look at the gif below that message, Madara Uchiha doesn't appear to care for them lol.
@user56652 That might just because he doesn't like the design of Sylveon.
@Yuki True, he didn't say Eevee he was referring to Sylveon.
Sylveon, like most Fairy-types, does look overly girly.
Which makes me question why I like the Fairy-type now...
20:57
Ya.
Meh. I think they're cute.
I can't tell you how good it felt after breeding 12 of those demons to finally get what I wanted.
It's a lot more gratifying then settling for the male. I can see the appeal of breeding now.
@Yuki That's one of the reasons why I wanted a female Sylveon, because it fits the design better.
Gender stereotypes aside, I like the girly designs. So be it.
21:11
Anyone have a metal coat they don't want? I wanna evolve my scyther before 22
Aren't Metal Coats really rare?
@Krazer Why? just out of curiosity.
I guess Krazer doesn't talk much. I've only been here for a day or so though.
Actually, you can get Metal Coats fairly easily somewhere.
I'll have to look it up.
Okay, I can either spend BP and get you a Metal Coat (I don't remember how much they go for) or we can try to find somebody with a Metang in the Friend Safari.
@Yuki BP?
@user56652 Battle Points. You get them from battling in the Battle Maison or Battle Institute.
21:22
@Yuki Oh, is that against actual players, or NPC's?
@user56652 NPCs. But these are pretty tough NPCs.
Unlike most, they're EV-trained and have fairly good movesets.
@Yuki Is there any reason why most NPC's (aside from gym leaders) never use potions?
@user56652 sorry i'm on mobile... I wanna get my scyther skills for technician the last one I want us at 21
Well, the first couple of fights in the Battle Maison aren't bad.
I've only seen Gym Leaders use them, but not any of the trainers on routes and stuff.
21:23
@user56652 So people don't get annoyed at every trainer fight?
@Yuki If you can't win a fight against an NPC that's happens to use a potion then that is kind of pathetic.
@user56652 It's not "can't win", it's "I'm going to win no matter what so you stalling by using a potion is annoying".
Usually with my main (Fennekin, fully evolved) most of the time it's a 1 hit KO. It wouldn't harm anyone.
Or at least have the NPC's have EV-Trained Pokemon.
I kind of wish there was a "Hard" mode, to make the game a bit more challenging.
@Yuki They could limit the amount of potions to one or two, so that wouldn't happen.
@user56652 Turn off EXP Share.
@user56652 They do. Gym Leaders and the Elite Four only have a certain number of Ultra Potions, Full Restores, etc. to use.
@Yuki Hell no. I meant as far as battling the NPC's and such.
@Yuki Yup, only Gym Leaders, and the E4.
I've noticed that X/Y occasionally lag (even without 3D). If you play in a match sometimes you'll see animations (menu/Pokemon) slow, or stutter a little bit.
21:32
@user56652 Yeah, but I'll give them props for making the transition to 3D.
@Yuki It's nothing terrible, but it's still there. We've got to cut them a little slack since this is the first Pokemon game (in the main series) to use 3D models.
No one has a metal coat to trade? I'm give you pokerus
Does anyone here have the Pokerus btw? I thought that Krazer had been giving it away.
Just so I can level up Sylveon faster, and without day care.
@user56652 Pokerus doesn't affect EXP gain, only EV gain.
@Krazer @Yuki said you could buy one with BP.
21:37
How much is it?
@Yuki Actually I could just use EXP Share. Sylveon should level faster since she's lv 2.
Okay, that's weird. Metal Coat isn't available for BP. Even though other evolutionary items are.
@Krazer Apparently, you can get one in the Poke Ball Factory.
@user56652 I've given 5 ppl pokerus already, do you want to be no. 6?
@Yuki that the fairy gym town right?
@Krazer Yes.
@Krazer Sure. I won't be able to do it until later on though.
Does the pokerus wear off, or how does it spread/work?
21:48
@user56652 It never wears off.
After every battle, a Pokemon with Pokerus has a chance to spread to its fellow party members.
Pokerus causes your Pokemon to gain double EVs from battling.
So after you've caught it, everytime you battle you'll get 2x EV's? sweet
After a certain amount of time, your Pokemon can stop spreading Pokerus which is why you generally want to infect a random Pokemon, say a Pidgey, and just keep it in the box.
In case you need to get Pokerus on another Pokemon.
@user56652 sure I added you. Lemme know when you're free
@Krazer Will do, thanks.
 
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