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6:15 PM
@NautArch But there's that website that compiles them called "Sage Advice." That's where most of the confusion comes from probably
 
@DavidCoffron Right, and it's a very good reason to NOT refer to them as such.
Let's not propagate the confusion
 
@DavidCoffron The worst part is that it comes up like first or second on google searches
 
Smart business decision on his part
kinda surprised there wasn't a C&D on it
 
It may not be trademarkable
probably too generic
or not strongly associated enough
or they just didn't bother
 
Reminds me of Frosted Flakes and Raisin Bran... and then there's Wheat Thins
 
6:20 PM
@Medix2 But where are the Wheat Thiccs?
 
@AncientSwordRage That's called bread.
 
@ThomasMarkov Man I love bread
 
Do you folks know the phenomenon where when you visit a place, your mind shifts back to what you thought of in there on your previous visit?
 
@kviiri mind pop?
 
I guess doing some light-hearted fantasy world-building has taken a major slice of my life outside sleep or screen time, because I always find myself reiterating one of my campaign worlds when I go to the toilet, sauna or shower.
"Gee, I wonder what Mairzidon the Elf Lord is up to today," said kviiri as he entered the bathroom.
I wonder if I'll ruin it making the bathroom into a writing room. Probably yes.
 
GcL
6:30 PM
@kviiri I wonder if somewhere... somehow... he's also sitting on the pot right now. Like we're all connected to one giant metaphorical sewer system.
 
@kviiri I've resigned to calling one of the bathrooms in the apartment "my office" so that when I get a house my wife will be more likely to be okay with putting a work desk around one of the toilets.
 
In all seriousness, not fiddling with a smartphone on the toilet seems to be a really good idea and not just because of hygiene concerns. I feel like I really benefit from having a place where I can be alone, not talk to anyone, and not have to look at screens
just me, my thoughts, and natural processes of waste elimination
 
6:52 PM
@kviiri Also less chance to drop the smart phone into the toilet. They don't do well when immersed in water
 
7:25 PM
@KorvinStarmast I'm not following you rcomment at all.
 
Using your smartphone on the toilet increases the chance of it falling into the water, which is not good for the phone. Thus not using your smartphone on the toilet, as Kviiri mentioned, is a good idea for that reason as well as the others Kviiri mentioned
 
I'm not used to people spelling my nick correctly online
kudos :D
 
7:48 PM
@ThomasMarkov Treating the effects of that spell as a series of normal attacks is IMO an error in the first place. Whether you (or the OP, or David, or any of the other answers) want to split hairs over 'unseen' versus 'invisible' versus 'vanish' is I think based on that error in the first place. If you simply treat it as a spell that hits each enemy (like a melee spell attack, inflict wounds done to that many enemies) and then the Ranger ends up "some place that they may not have started" ...
... one will have followed RAW and also not overcomplicated things. The ranger isn't actually moving in and out of the attack range of the targets of the spell, the magical effect is doing all of that. The vanish is a lot more like a 'misty step' function.
@ThomasMarkov Put another way, the OP tossed out a red herring and some folks netted one.
Hence my observation regarding cherry picking. It has hazards, just as it does on reading various passages in Scripture and picking a small bit "what does this mean" ... I've made that point ad nauseum on Christianity SE. Well, I stopped a couple of years ago since I was just getting frustrated.
@ThomasMarkov PS nice job mentoring Warcupine on this question, I may be able to do an analysis tonight.
 
@KorvinStarmast Yeah, Ive been eyeballing that one for a while now.
Threw some bounty on it, 13 days is too long for a homebrew review to go unanaswered.
Some of the wording needs some attention I think.
 
8:11 PM
@ThomasMarkov If, and t his is a big if, I have about 30-45 minutes of peace when I get home, I'll be comparing it to my favorite Sorcerer (shadow) and seeing how they stack up.
yes, I am a dog person, and Shadow sorcerer gets a doggie. 😀
 
@KorvinStarmast My point re: cherry picking is that I could have chosen any definition of vanish and it still bears the implication of being unseen. In my understanding, that's the opposite of cherry picking.
 
@KorvinStarmast The rules don't prohibit the Hound of Ill Omen from being a samoyed, or oversized corgi
 
@ThomasMarkov Here's my opinion: The spell is not intended to give the caster advantage on any of the attacks made, otherwise, it would likely say so, or it would use some sort of game-defined term that also grants advantage by extension, such as "Invisible" or "Heavily Obscured". Also, since vanish also means to disappear physically, and the spell involves teleportation, I think it is intended to theme after a short series of rapid teleportations and attacks, ending after the last attack
Like a sort of "blinking" between attacks
 
8:26 PM
So if it had said, instead of vanish, "you become unseen to strike like the wind", would your perspective be different?
 
@ThomasMarkov I’ve followed it in hopes of answering it, but most of my sorcerer experience has been one-shot games at third-5th level, excepting a shadow sorcerer I’ve been playing for 22 sessions (about 43 hours) from 3rd-7th level so far, so I’m not sure how it compares to anything but that
 
Personally, I think the spell is another one of the "we really didn't write this well" spells. And it seems kinda clear that the intent is likely not to have advantage, but a written strict reading opens up the possibility.
 
Not related, but NASA said they found water on the moon.
 
The pro-advantage folks have to do some grammatical gymnastics to show their interpretation, and the anti-advantage folks also have to do some grammatical gymnastics.
@ThomasMarkov oooh! I was wondering what that announcement was going to be.
spoiler: it's neil armstrong's pee.
 
Neil? Nah. For my money, it's Buzz Aldrin's.
 
8:29 PM
hweh, much more likely
that dude is a trip
to the moon
 
For sure. Like the time he verbally assaulted someone at a showing of the movie Gravity
 
@ThomasMarkov Not without reason.
that guy was a few fries short of a happy meal
 
@ThomasMarkov that’s got to be interesting for those scientists
 
@ThomasMarkov Probably a bit, yeah. But since the context kind of points towards the "not existing" definition, and also the fact that they didn't use terminology that explicitly states gaining advantage, I don't think that's how it functions.
@NautArch Was also thinking this :p
 
Gold badgers who want to exercise restraint but still have your voice heard may upvote my most recent comment on this question
Or if you're feeling squirrely lets see how many times we can dupe and undupe hammer it.
 
8:42 PM
I just whacked it instead
 
delete dis
Come on smokedetector
@SmokeDetector where u at
60 Minutes should interview the people that post stuff like that
"Agonizing Blast 5e is the best game in usa." Can't argue with that.
Components: V, 5
Not S. 5.
 
9:11 PM
Hello other humans! I am most certainly a human today and not a being of flame, fire and justified retribution cyborg made of homework and painful suffering
 
/me waves its pedipalps in greeting.
 
lol
 
9:36 PM
I've reached the weird level of transcendence in my scientific writing where "oh shoot, I chose a really stupid convention for this thing" registers in my mind as a positive experience
I mean, that I'm able to recognize the stupidity of the convention I spent long to choose well, and at a glance too, is a sign of substantially increased skills
 
 
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11:00 PM
@MikeQ Thanks for that hilarious visual, but I am thinking more Irish wolf hound
 
11:11 PM
@KorvinStarmast definitely chihuahua
 
@kviiri This hits too close to home. I wrote three chapters of my thesis before deciding one of my naming conventions was bad.
 
11:27 PM
@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica spiderwave XD
 
Ben
Morning all
@MikeQ just imagined an everyday adorable corgi, with red eyes.
 
a shadowmastiff walks up to @Ben, sticks their head in his lap
 
@ThomasMarkov I've rewritten a particular piece of my research code like, four or five times?
Each re-iteration is simpler than the last. AND more performant
Going from "ohhh I need to hyper-optimize this" to "ok so it's pretty performant but there's still these pathological cases" to "ok now it handles like, nine out of ten pathological cases well but..." to "hm, why don't I just give it to a SAT solver"
I should say, the SAT solver solution satisfies me.
 
11:49 PM
I feel like this is an opportune moment to mention Walkies with Grim.
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because of a mutual friend of my d&d group’s love of corgis we decided my shadow sorcerer’s Hound of Ill Omen was a corgi. Just a normal corgi, except that (because rule of cool) it was almost a black hole in composition, a beast of pure shadow
 
@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica \\oo/
 

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