English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Robusto

12:13 AM

@crl Har.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

12:35 AM

@Cerberus

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Hmm steps leading up to a windows?

Perhaps constructed under orders from a concerned mother, so that her daughter might be safe whenever she secretly escapes from the house to see her lover, as she knew children are wont to do?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

12:55 AM

who knows

Faheem Mitha

1:13 AM

@Jolenealaska your photo collection must be quite something.

Jolenealaska

2:03 AM

@FaheemMitha The vast majority of my photos are of food.

Faheem Mitha

@Jolenealaska I've seen many that aren't.

Jolenealaska

2:26 AM

@FaheemMitha I have hundreds of family photos, thousands of food photos :) Luckily for me, Tall helps 'cause I'm pretty clueless.

So far these are my favorites; Tall edited both of them.

Those were my very first (and so far, only) croissants.

That cast iron pan belonged to my grandmother, my mom and now me.

Faheem Mitha

2:53 AM

@Jolenealaska How does one edit a photo? Like with Photoshop?

Jolenealaska

3:06 AM

Yes. Gimp is a free version that does a lot of the same stuff.

The chicken photo for instance had a corner that didn't match. Tall filled it in.

@FaheemMitha I'm getting almost functionally literate in Gimp, but it still screws with me quite a bit.

Faheem Mitha

7:42 AM

@Jolenealaska I'm familiar with Gimp.

Matt E. Эллен

9:18 AM

@Cerberus whyn't abbrv. whenev u've the chance?

Matt E. Эллен

10:01 AM

@Mitch I just can't wait to be king slyly glances at Mitch

RegDwigнt

@Robusto yeah, not only is it a) untranslatable, but b) he put the best approximation right in the title, himself, and most of all c) it makes no sense whatsoever to translate it in the first place.

The moment you say "Sorry, I don't speak Chinese" in Chinese, you are lying.

Matt E. Эллен

No hablo español

RegDwigнt

No estoy hablando castellano.

Robusto

11:07 AM

@RegDwigнt No sé hablar po-russki.

Cerberus

11:18 AM

@MattE.Эллен Evil, thy name is Matt!

Matt E. Эллен

11:32 AM

@RegDwigнt Pero tu perro habló

Robusto

11:43 AM

@MattE.Эллен Si su perro hablaba, debe ser @Cerberus.

Dog Lover

Hello guys!

Anonymous

@MattE.Эллен I like your reanalysis of -n't as a clitic!

Cerberus

12:02 PM

@Robusto Pero, no, que coño!

Matt E. Эллен

@DogLover Hola!

Cerberus

(Trying to sound Spanish.)

@DogLover Hey, buddy, what are you insinuating?

@MattE.Эллен By the way, moddy, could you do me a favour? The typo in surpassed in my starred comment keeps bugging me...

Matt E. Эллен

should be surpasses?

Cerberus

Yup!

Gracias!!

Matt E. Эллен

de nada

Cerberus

12:05 PM

Why did they put d and s next to each other?

Matt E. Эллен

tengo el fiebre del heno

Cerberus

Heno?

What kind of fever do you have?

Or is that a fibre?

Matt E. Эллен

@Cerberus si

@Cerberus hay

Cerberus

Asi.

Ahh that one.

Coño!

Do you have your pills and your spray?

I'm using this spray before bed now.

Matt E. Эллен

no. I took them this morning, but to no avail, apparently

Cerberus

12:08 PM

But I do not suffer from hay fever: it is some inexplicable clogged-nosiness.

That sucks!

Matt E. Эллен

aye. it could be worse :D at least it's not an infectious disease

Mitch

@RegDwigнt You may have learned that phrase as a one-off, a one time informational sign.

@MattE.Эллен Is that you ... Simba?

Cerberus

@MattE.Эллен Hmm I don't know: if it were infectious, then it would have to end, either way...

Robusto

@Cerberus Because they overestimated your typing ability.

Matt E. Эллен

@Robusto if they only saw the size of his paws

Cerberus

12:13 PM

@Robusto Then they are stupid.

@MattE.Эллен Thank you!

Matt E. Эллен

Hmmm. We seem to have scared off @DogLover

Mitch

@Cerberus Pendejo!

Robusto

@MattE.Эллен We can't legislate keyboards based on the size of a dog's paws. That would be madness.

Mitch

@Robusto Then we shall have madness! legislation approved!

Isn't that in the constitution?

r some technical user design manual?

Robusto

@Mitch Uh, I think you Brits just approved madness in the recent election, yes.

Andrew Leach

12:14 PM

The UK doesn't have a constitution.

Mitch

didn't 'they' measure a bunch of dudes thumbs at IBM when developing their keyboards?

Apple just assumed people would shave the skin off their fingers.

Cerberus

@MattE.Эллен His feelings for me must have been...conflicting.

Mitch

@Robusto Nice!

Cerberus

@Mitch Gosh, they have a word for that?

Mitch

@Robusto something something midday sun. Anyway, I have a hat.

@Cerberus maybe he's more of a cat person... but confused?

Cerberus

12:17 PM

That must be it, caramba!

Mitch

@Cerberus No, they have a word for those other things, but not that.

@Cerberus I know. Wherever he arrives, he feels like he should leave because of his own presence.

Robusto

@Cerberus ¡Hijo de perra!

Mitch

@Cerberus "Pelo que nace en el pubis y en las ingles.->Hair born in the pubis and in English."

Robusto

I answered a Yoishi question this morning. Seems like old times.

Mitch

He needs to ask more.

Robusto

12:28 PM

@snailboat "The negative marker n’t as in couldn’t etc. is often thought to be a clitic developed from the lexical item not. Linguists Arnold Zwicky and Geoffrey Pullum argue, however, that the form has the properties of an affix rather than a syntactically independent clitic." (Wikipedia)

Anonymous

Yes, that's right

Anonymous

We can tell for a number of reasons including the very limited selection of hosts

Anonymous

So I suggested that Matt's comment reanalyzed it as a clitic when he attached it freely to why, a word the affix doesn't select as a host

Anonymous

Which I found amusing :-)

Robusto

I think whyn't is already established in BrE, isn't it?

As in "why don't" or "why didn't"?

@MattE.Эллен: Whyn't you step in here?

Or maybe I just dreamed that.

Anonymous

12:32 PM

It's the first I've heard of it, if so!

Robusto

I dreamt last night that I got into a fist fight with Vince Vaughn. Pretty random, if you ask me.

Anonymous

Certainly it hasn't been mentioned in the grammars I've read, at any rate

Anonymous

It'd still be an affix if that were the case, though, so I'd have to retract what I said about reanalysis :-(

Anonymous

しゃあないねえ

Robusto

@snailboat Did you mean じゃあないねえ?

Andrew Leach

12:37 PM

I guess two dots make all the difference.

Mitch

@snailboat I keep reanalyzing 'reanalyze' as 'renal-yze', like your kidneys are being eaten out from the inside.

Robusto

@AndrewLeach That's nigori here nor there.

Anonymous

しゃあない < 仕様がない

Mitch

@Robusto You're in the dream now, remembering vaguely what happened when you were awake.

@Robusto And?

Anonymous

じゃあないじゃあないよ

Robusto

12:39 PM

@snailboat Ah, OK.

What I get for trying to chat while coding.

Anonymous

@Mitch You reanalyzed reanalyzed as a whole nother thing! :-)

Mitch

@snailboat I think I'm allowed to do that.

Anonymous

Yes!

Mitch

I'm not claiming I can do it well.

Robusto

I try to do everything I do as well as I can do it. It is the reason behind my laziness, which is really all about not doing things unless I can get them right.

Matt E. Эллен

12:52 PM

@snailboat thank you! I try m best

Andrew Leach

@Robusto That's not laziness, that's efficient. Do it wrong, do it twice.

Anonymous

Laziness is good

Anonymous

As long as it's not that false laziness stuff

Robusto

1:07 PM

@AndrewLeach Well, laziness and efficiency are closely linked for me. Two sides of the proverbial same coin.

True laziness is spending the afternoon deciding whether to have another drink or go in the water. (The topic keeps coming up.)

Ha, my boss just sent me an 11th-hour request to add Google Analytics to a page I had just finished with. I responded without thinking: "Oh, FFS."

If he questions me I'll probably tell him it means For Freakin' Sure.

Mitch

1:40 PM

@Robusto I can't find what I'm looking for but this is close enough: "It's so easy!"

The thing I was looking for was a blog post about how it is easy to describe software at a highlevel such that it sounds so easy to implement. But even the easiest things are hard! And then someone says, but looks at X, they did it overnight! And it turns out they worked on it for years, then made an announcement, and deployed a day after the announcement.

Then again, somethings really are easy nowadays!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

1:52 PM

So my kids have started using the word nother, like "a whole nother thing" and I wonder if they've just heard other people say it, or did they arrive at that analysis themselves. It's funny, watching children learn language.

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch I announce that tomorrow, @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇's children will be speaking English.

Robusto

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That's how words change.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен I don't believe it! What are the odds?!!

No really, what are the odds, I want to place some money down.

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch 20 to 1 against

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto yeah but I just wonder if they're copying something they heard, or if they innovated it themselves.

Cerberus

2:06 PM

@Robusto Marca de soño!

@Mitch I'm sure it must mean something else...!

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Ask them.

They might know.

Robusto

@Cerberus Yes. If you can understand their answers, chances are they're speaking English.

Cerberus

Well, tell that to the Pomogen.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus They usually don't know

and this is one case where I know adults use this usage, including maybe me, but I don't know if they heard it from me or if they heard it at school or what.

Mitch

@Cerberus I thought it was funny "Hair born ... in English" I don't know what it means, but we should all start using it right away.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Other kids screw everything up.

@Robusto around 20 to 1 odds

@MattE.Эллен against? is that for they'll be speaking English or they won't? Nevermind, either way, just give me the payoff for the best result. I think that's fair.

Cerberus

2:28 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I know, I understand the possibilities.

@Mitch Ungula is hoof or claw...

I don't know.

Mitch

2:42 PM

@Cerberus huh... I always thought that referred to the stomach. chewing the cud and what not.

But google translate took ingles to English, not to 'foot or claw'. wouldn't the Spanish normally be unya (< ongles < ungula)?

Cerberus

@Mitch Huh, no? In what context?

@Mitch Sure, sure, ingles is English...I was just hoping it might also mean something else and was just throwing in some random Latin word.

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch translate.google.com/#auto/en/Ungula

Cerberus

I don't know about the historical phonology of Spanish, but you are no doubt right!

Robusto

Did you ever notice that you enter a room and someone is between you and the place you want to go, when they sense that they're in your way they invariably move closer to the spot you're trying to get to? I think that's some kind of physical law or something.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者: How's the toilet?

Mitch

@Cerberus The ungulates, the cow- and deer-like animals

Matt E. Эллен

2:53 PM

@Mitch if you give me 1 dollar and they're not speaking English tomorrow, I'll give it back plus twenty extra.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен that translated ungula to ungula. That's not nothing, but a bit underwhelming.

Matt E. Эллен

odds for them speaking English tomorrow are 1 to 10000000.

Mitch

@Robusto Nope, they're just being jerks.

@MattE.Эллен right, if they're speaking English tomorrow, you'll send me 10000000. otherwise I'll send you 1.

notarized

escrow account established

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch if they're speaking English tomorrow, I'll send you 10000001 if you give me 10000000 now

Mitch

authorities dispatched

@MattE.Эллен For your own wellbeing, shield your eyes and stay away from windows. The stormtroopers are at the top of the building rappelling down at this moment, and they can't really account for the direction of the glass shards from smashing the windows in.

@MattE.Эллен sigh They speak English now, so I'm pretty much gonna call it even and go out and buy myself a nice lunch.

one more regret: almost had 10000000 of something

Cerberus

3:01 PM

@Mitch Ohh I see. So no.

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch almost had 10000001

Cerberus

@Robusto Only some people do that. And you can usually predict who.

By the way, aren't whales also ungulates?

Mitch

@Cerberus " As a descriptive term, "ungulate" normally excludes cetaceans (whales, dolphins, porpoises), as they do not possess most of the typical morphological (body) characteristics of ungulates, but recent discoveries indicate that they are descended from early artiodactyls.". So technically yes, sort of.

Robusto

@Cerberus No.

Cerberus

There you go.

Robusto

3:05 PM

@Mitch: Shut up with your "facts" . . .

Cerberus

Basilosaurus

Basilosaurus ("king lizard") is a genus of early whale that lived 40 to 34 million years ago in the late Eocene. The first fossil of B. cetoides was discovered in the United States and was initially believed to be some sort of reptile, hence the suffix -"saurus", but it was later found to be a marine mammal. Richard Owen wished to rename the creature Zeuglodon ("yoked tooth"), but, per taxonomic rules, the creature's first name remained permanent. Fossils of B. isis have been found in Egypt and Jordan. The species B. cetoides is the state fossil of Mississippi and Alabama in the United States....

Really cool.

I had no idea they had large whales so long ago.

Mitch

@Robusto "Facts are never what they seem to be"

Talking Heads - Crosseyed And Painless (HQ)

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Robusto

@Cerberus I thought basileus meant emperor, not king.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

3:39 PM

@Robusto Still peeing directly from the floor bolt. I almost made a video last night.

Addressing it is next on the list. The shower was draining at a glacial pace, which we fixed in spades last night.

Obtaining and using a lawnmower has higher priority just now.

And yeah, the fridge peed again.

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 That sucks. It means the whole toilet has to come up because you have to check the main seal. Yuk.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I need an adult.

Matt E. Эллен

There's a meme for that ;)

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Exactly.

terdon

@Robusto No, emperor is autokrator or however you'd transliterate αυτοκράτωρ.

Matt E. Эллен

3:53 PM

auto crater

;)

terdon

@MattE.Эллен Story of my life. I used to think hitting 20 would solve it, then I pinned my hopes on 30. Currently crossing my fingers for 40.

Matt E. Эллен

I'm just crossing my finger for no one to notice

Robusto

Feb 20 at 18:50, by Robusto

@Mitch What's the difference between the Boy Scouts of America and the U. S. Army? Answer: The Boy Scouts have adult supervision.

Matt E. Эллен

:D

Robusto

@terdon Been there, done that. It doesn't help. I'm still waiting.

terdon

3:55 PM

Damn.

Robusto

Remember, you're only young once but you can be immature forever.

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terdon

Joy!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Can I get that in writing?

Oh, wait.

Matt E. Эллен

lol

Robusto

Next on my list of people who need to be shipped to a desert island: Those who leave their cellphones on their desks when they go off to do whatever, and then get LOTS of URGENT CALLS.

I call these "iPhone users" because they're the ones whose batteries don't last more than a couple hours.

Next time you see an unattended phone getting calls, see if it isn't an iPhone.

I have been thinking of patenting the Amazing Cellphone Hammer™. No instruction necessary.

Andrew Leach

4:01 PM

Hi, Alan. I'm afraid I had to stop your phone ringing while you weren't here.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto If it's an iphone, you might be able to silence it by flipping the mute switch.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 with a ball peen?

giggles

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

or a BlendTec

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Prospecting hammers work pretty well, too.

Of course, you might choose to go with a splitting maul, just to be on the safe side. And that would leave a nice crater in the desk as well.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Will it Blend? - iPhone 6 Plus

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Robusto

4:11 PM

I knew what you meant.

I think everyone's seen that video about five times.

An oldie but a goodie.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

That's a more recent one. There's like a million of these videos

TRiG

I've been asked to create a form on a website (a course application form for a school of hair dressing). One of the questions is Have you any qualifications relating to the hair and beauty industry. Yes, this lacks a question mark. More interestingly, the Have you? construction seems very Irish to me. I, with my English parents and British-accented English, would say Do you have?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Have you any wool?

terdon

@TRiG I'd also say do you have but would have no problem understanding the other. Seems kind of archaic, rather than Irish to me.

MickLH

Archaic, Irish, Not From My Race, Bad, meh any synonym works

Capitalizing every word in a phase turns it into a word.

... you don't have to ban me. I'll go.

TRiG

4:20 PM

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I am somewhat disreputable, being the gay atheist in a family of Jehovah's Witnesses.

@terdon Both. Archaic and Irish. Probably.

terdon

@TRiG Wow, you must have fun at Christmas dinner :)

I wonder which of the two bothers your parents most.

TRiG

@terdon I'm pretty sure it's the atheist part.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@TRiG what terdon said!

terdon

That's what I'd have guessed. Though being a gay Jehovah's Witness would be truly queer.

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RegDwigнt

@Mitch that is true, but in that case the chances are even higher you will be happy using that informational sign, rather than go around asking for a translation of a very vivid and strange idiom from your mother tongue that accomplishes the same thing as the information sign in the most roundabout way.

@TRiG I see a lot of room for improvement. For example, you could try becoming a lesbian Jewish atheist communist witness.

With no car. Just a tricycle.

TRiG

4:38 PM

@RegDwigнt I'm ahead of you on the no car bit.

RegDwigнt

In other news, I'm coming straight (huhuh, straight, pun intended, look at my pun, how funny) from a chiropractor who set three ribs of mine.

At least LEO tells me "set" is the word to use. I wouldn't know how to express in English what he did to my ribcage.

@TRiG I doubt you can be ahead of anyone if they have a car and you don't.

But as chance would have it, I don't have a license myself, so we're even.

Now if you go get that tricycle, you could be ahead.

Anyway, I must be out of here again. Gotta reboot anyway. Lators.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

5:05 PM

Dupe: english.stackexchange.com/questions/248887/…

Mitch

@TRiG One or the other is tragic, but both seem like carelessness.

terdon

@Mitch s/some/both/ ?

Mitch

@terdon What did you say?

terdon

Umm, nothing. Why?

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Oh. I forgot to say that it is still extremely misleading. And if you say you can't speak X' in X, then the hearer wil still assume you can and treat you like you know what is going on, and hand you the controls to the nuclear power plant as they leave, right before the alarms go off.

@terdon Yeah... nothing. Anyway, That was my Oscar Wilde relevant quote of the day that I screwed up.

terdon

5:13 PM

:)

So I shouldn't point out that you meant to write seems then?

Mitch

No you shouldn't point it out, not because it is right or wrong (I don't know!) but because it's making me self-conscious.

terdon

Awww :(

user116848

Hi!

user116848

So they even have the song named "What did you say?":

user116848

Jason Derulo - Whatcha Say (What Did You Say)

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Mitch

5:16 PM

Hey!

user116848

Hi Mitch!

user116848

Great! I got outspoken badge in Writer's chat. Yay!

user116848

I only do the weekly writing exercise.

user116848

Easy.

Mitch

Easy peasy... assuming that peas are easy

user116848

5:25 PM

:)

user116848

So full version is: "easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy". I didn't know.

user116848

urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=easy+peasy

Robusto

@RegDwigнt LEO stands for "Law Enforcement Officer" ...

Mitch

5:40 PM

@Arrowfar I never knew the lemon-squeezy part, makes it so down-market

user116848

@Mitch Yes it does.

Mitch

Same as when people singing 'Happy birthday' feel like they have to fill in the couple of rests with 'Cha cha cha'

user116848

yeah several alternatives.

Mitch

Are you in college now? Can you vote? (I know, two weird questions)

user116848

Umm I am not from US. But here I can vote, yes.

user116848

5:52 PM

I kinda finished my college.

user116848

I am doing ACCA. Last paper left.

user116848

But it is not a degree, just a certification.

user116848

To become ICAEW I'll have to complete several other papers too.

user116848

Let's see. But to manage studies between work is kinda tough.

user116848

Here I don't vote though.

user116848

5:55 PM

Because we never get good leaders.

user116848

All old, corrupt folks.

user116848

:)

user116848

I mean too much rigging in voting process here.

user116848

So here we have this simple routine: Get a degree, get a job, get married, have a small family and live. That's about it here. A bit boring I know.

user116848

It is a conservative society, so that's how we roll.

Mitch

5:59 PM

@Arrowfar ha ha same everywhere, the only difference is how well they hide it.

user116848

I know :)

user116848

All dirty politics here.

Mitch

@Arrowfar That's not a bad routine.

user116848

@Mitch Hah, yeah that's what my parents tell me.

Mitch

@Arrowfar Oh that is rough. hardly anytime just for one or the other, but both is that much worse.

user116848

6:02 PM

yeah, so I am not full time working though. Just a part time accounting job now.

user116848

But I live with my parents so living is kinda easy.

Mitch

You know the old curse 'I hope you have an interesting life'

user116848

I mean I get all the good home prepared food etc. :)

user116848

@Mitch yeah not interesting. Kinda tough I'd say.

user116848

But I am happy.

Mitch

6:05 PM

That's nice. I remember long ago when I'd come home for a visit, and my mom would have made like every possible dish I'd ever half mentioned liking, and I felt so guilty because I couldn't eat it all for her.

user116848

Hee

Mitch

I remember where you're from, but is it north or south? North sounds more likely to be 'interesting'

Robusto

Damn, the plumber is here and my wife is not. So I can't go for my ride until he leaves.

user116848

@Mitch I am from the south.

Mitch

@Robusto It's too hot now, you should go later once it cools off.

Robusto

6:07 PM

Nah, it's fine. A little windy, maybe.

Mitch

They should have sails for bikes, so you can go into the wind easier.

Robusto

I think it's obvious why that is not a good idea.

Mitch

like a spinnaker on the handlebars

@Robusto um...I don't think you've seen ET enough. they don't even need sails to do it.

Robusto

No thanks.

That's all I'd need would be for a sudden gust of wind to blow me into a truck.

Mitch

or deploy a parasail. that would totally work.

make sure you have those shoes that snap into the pedals though

and bring water balloons. I mean, that's the whole point of it right?

@Robusto I don't think that'd be a problem. Sail boats have right of way over other boats. Same goes for wheeled vehicles.

For serious I think some crazy mechanical engineer is working on some kind of bike/sail hybrid, I think the sail is horizontal (more like a plane wing).

Sail Bike Aerocycle

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works on the beach (without trucks)

user116848

6:15 PM

@Mitch In the very north of our country it is very beautiful, but all the action goes on there. I mean killings (drone attacks etc) and all. It is very dangerous in the very north.

user116848

But those places are very beautiful (scenic)

Robusto

@Arrowfar North what?

user116848

@Robusto North of Pakistan.

Robusto

Ah.

Yeah, glad I don't live there.

user116848

yeah

user116848

6:17 PM

I have visited north several times in the past when the situation used to be good.

Robusto

@Mitch The whole point of the bike ride is exercise.

user116848

I mean look at this:

user116848

Ain't that a beauty!

user116848

It is not very safe to go to these places now :)

Robusto

6:19 PM

@Arrowfar Sure, until you pan left and see a bunch of angry people with AK-47s.

user116848

@Robusto Exactly!

Mitch

@Robusto What? Oh, then turn the sail the other way, you know so you have to work against it.

@Arrowfar nice!

Robusto

I'm a-tired of this talk of sails.

user116848

@Mitch I know. It is like heaven up there but the terrorists have made it all worse.

Mitch

People are jerks.

user116848

6:21 PM

Yes they are

Robusto

Wait. I'm not a jerk, and I'm a people.

Mitch

Do you have an AK-47?

An AK-47 is a sail, right?

Robusto

Sorry, I don't own any machine guns.

Mitch

No worries, they're really overkill.

user116848

We have many places like these too:

user116848

6:27 PM

user116848

Very peaceful. I mean when the law and order is good up there.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto And you call yourself an American? ;P

user116848

If it weren't for the jerks this country's north would be like Switzerland.

user116848

More or less.

Robusto

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Gun nuts might call me a Canadian.

Apr 11 '11 at 14:08, by Robusto

@JSBangs — A Canadian is just an American with health care and no handgun.

terdon

6:33 PM

@Robusto I thought the Canadians had more guns than the Americans, but have the decency to use them less often.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Arrowfar if only we could take all the jerks, everywhere, and fling them into the sun.

user116848

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yeah :-)

terdon

Hmm, not according to Wikipedia. Michael Moore lied to me!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@terdon yeah I was just going to post this

> There are an estimated 270 million firearms in the U.S., according to the independent research project called ‘Small Arms Survey.’ That’s 89 firearms per 100 residents, making the U.S. the No. 1 country for gun ownership.

Canada, on the other hand, ranks 13th on the study’s list, with 9.95 million firearms — or 31 per 100 residents.

terdon

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It's pretty damn close, mind you.

And Greece is really high! I had no idea. It's never been much of an issue here.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:36 PM

@terdon er, 89 vs 31 guns per 100 people? nowhere near close

terdon

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I was thinking 13th as opposed to 1st, that's pretty close. Then again, 30% of the population being armed seems shocking to me. 22% as, apparently, is the case in Greece is equally so.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@terdon It's not 30% of the population though, just enough guns that you could spread it out that far. Many gun owners own multiple guns.

Robusto

@terdon It may surprise you to know that gun ownership is going down per capita in America, but the number of guns keeps going up. People who like guns tend to acquire a lot of them.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Also most of the guns in Canada are long guns, for hunting, which makes sense in a country like this one. As much sense as sport hunting ever makes.

Robusto

It is fun to shoot clays. I wouldn't care to shoot animals, though.

terdon

6:42 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Fair point.

@Robusto Well, that's still a good sign. Glad to hear it. That the per capita is dropping, obviously.

Robusto

I think I said that wrong. Per capita is going up, but number of individuals owning guns is going down.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto yeah, exactly. Shooting at targets is one thing. Needlessly hunting animals is a whole nother thing.