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3:00 PM
@terdon I can approach more the beasts in apnea though
or else if I inhale, I would make myself vomit (really)
 
@kwak It's a good thing we're chatting online and not in person then :)
 
@terdon I guess you're currently smoking? :s
 
@kwak Not this very second but I will be soon and was not long ago. I'm sure I stink.
 
:x
hehe, but that's serious :(
taking injections, to cure my neuro-transmitters
and maybe to accept later the presence of stinky toxic deadly smokers
I got in an elevator a few months ago, with a just-smoked-person, that was a pain as soon as he talked
since then, I'm taking stairs, always
 
That doesn't solve anything.
You should still take the elevator, in a gas mask.
Otherwise the terrorists win.
 
3:08 PM
I have masks, but not big ones
maybe this one ^, charcoils filters, it filter fully the smell
I just have white dust masks
!!define filtrate
 
@kwak filtrate The liquid or solution that has passed through a filter, and which has been separated from the filtride.
 
@RegDwigнt I can hold 2 mins in apnea, that's more than enough for elevators..
 
@kwak missing the point again, eh?
It's not about saving your life, it is about shoving it into their faces that you have to.
 
@RegDwigнt hmm, they can see you're holding your breathe
 
If you take out the gas mask as soon as they start talking, that can help solve the actual problem, rather than paint over some an effect.
 
3:14 PM
Am I missing the point again?
Yeah with a gasmask I could even communicate with a smoker
 
@kwak they have to be sufficiently observant for that. And a sufficiently observant person won't have bad breath in the first place.
 
@RegDwigнt It helps if, for effect, you also put on goggles, then whip out a paintball gun, and then when the doors open, say "You have a 10s head start. Go."
2
 
Nah, too subtle.
 
I've those masks in the streets
always :/
whatever weird looks I receive
 
@terdon tea addictive? All those aunts and grandmothers hopped up on orange pekoe? Little girls and their decadent criminal huddles called tea-parties? Revolting.
 
3:21 PM
@Mitch Ain't it though? For some reason, revolting is often associated with tea parties in recent years.
 
!!wiki théine
 
Caffeine (/kæˈfiːn, ˈkæfiːn, ˈkæfiːɪn/) is a bitter, white crystalline xanthine alkaloid and a stimulant drug. Caffeine is found in varying quantities in the seeds, leaves, and fruit of some plants, where it acts as a natural pesticide that paralyzes and kills certain insects feeding on the plants, as well as enhancing the reward memory of pollinators. It is most commonly consumed by humans in infusions extracted from the seed of the coffee plant and the leaves of the tea bush, as well as from various foods and drinks containing products derived from the kola nut. Other sources include yerba maté...
 
Mmm, my favorite chemical compound.
 
@aediaλ with nicotine I guess?
 
See, another junkie.
 
3:26 PM
@aediaλ you another of dem dirty smokers?
 
No?
I'm confused.
 
@terdon It's a grooming process for the gangs that control the production and trade of the doll industry. "Which leg do you favor?" they'll ask right before they put a doily on it. "Swimming with the fishes"? Ankle deep in the goldfish pond.
 
I just love coffee.
 
Ah, damn, I thought I had company.
 
I love every kind of coffee.
 
3:27 PM
I love you then, (if you don't smoke)
 
I just want to hug all the coffee.
Aww thanks.
 
I still like @terdon too, but only if far away
 
@aediaλ coffee hugs back
 
I've never smoked because I have asthma and that isn't a great combination.
@Mitch Yay!
 
I love coffee and donuts, and maybe a cigarette, but hold the coffee, and no cigarettes. I love that.
 
3:29 PM
@kwak Fair enough. Though I think we live in the same country :)
Where do you live?
 
Damn france..
I smell you're a french smoker
 
France is always in the way.
That's what's wrong with them, no donuts.
 
@kwak Not French, I just live there.
 
Nice save!
 
People without donuts, gonuts.
 
3:30 PM
@terdon I'm near Nice, 35% of smokers there, above national average
 
Did someone say donuts? thinks about donuts
 
@kwak Ah, then we are close, I'm in Marseille.
 
Even my lego avatar has a donut!
 
@terdon Marseille! so many smokers there
I'm avoiding this city :/ seriosuly
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Imagine his frustration when he realized that the mouth is painted on.
 
3:31 PM
@terdon "Nooooooo!!!!"
 
All the South until Toulouse/Bordeaux is smoking heavily
 
The West also a bit, the North also with poverty
 
Man I wish I had a donut.
Or really any kind of pastry.
 
@terdon The donut is painted on too.
 
3:33 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhh!
@aediaλ Me too, they make great cigarette holders.
 
Haha!
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 it has a good avatar potential
 
@kwak Yeah I guess someone could use that as their avatar.
 
@terdon Are you working in an university campus, in Research?
 
@kwak Yup. Well, I was, I'm between jobs now.
 
3:35 PM
@terdon (like me in between jobs) Campus Luminy seems not bad
 
@kwak It's gorgeous. That's where my lab is.
Was. Whatever.
 
@terdon perso.univ-rennes1.fr/nicolas.popoff/Presentation.html I know this dude who work there
but more physics than biology
he's a fucking good mathematician too
 
Yeah, there's at least one Fields medalist in Luminy.
 
I'd go there, for a year in master, if I was not repelled by smokers, well have to cure myself first :/ then think again
@terdon Seriously I was tempted to go in a master in Paris w3.mi.parisdescartes.fr/map5/M2TI
But that's inner Paris too, so many opportunities to get near smokers, so I gave up
 
@kwak You really are exaggerating. Especially with the new laws on smoking in public spaces.
 
Zoe
3:42 PM
Ah, the coast is clear.
 
@terdon Yes, that's why I will see more clear after 1 month of injections, to change my brain a bit
@terdon but so far, I tried to check the paths near the Paris Descartes uni:
 
Zoe
I am drinking cough syrup
 
@Zoe try cough-ee
 
Zoe
Is there an international money loan site? Or, international study loan site?
 
and minimum 7 smokers morning and evening, that's hard for me
 
Zoe
3:44 PM
I am trying to get rid of the remaining cough syrup so I can get green ones.
 
@Zoe you don't smoke, you don't need to :)
 
Zoe
@kwak You don't know what my cough syrup is.
I'm trying to get study loans to continue my education... but the financial situation I am in now doesn't appeal to banks.
 
get a cheap apartment
 
Zoe
The only way I can do my A levels is for money to drop out of the sky
 
nah
 
Zoe
3:46 PM
I need at least 7,000 SGD
and I don't have that.
 
you can survive with less for sure
 
user116848
Hi! guys
 
!!convert 7000 SGD EUR
 
@kwak 4198.026EUR
 
3:47 PM
@Zoe oh ok
fair enough, USA have much higher fees, France lower if you need to
 
Zoe
Assuming the timings of that school does not clash with my work. If it does, I can't. Since I have to pay rent also.
Well, to study overseas, I'll need a grant. If not, I will have to pay for air tix and lodgings too! I'm stuck here.
Stuck here, with a low paying job and inability to further my education which will leave me with... a low paying job... and thus the cycle of life and death continues. It really is devastating how much the future would suck based on the decision made when we are in our teenage years.
 
@terdon Will you have to move out from Marseille for job, or you want to stay there?
that's my dilemma too
!!define dilemma
 
@kwak dilemma A circumstance in which a choice must be made between two or more alternatives that seem equally undesirable.
 
from δι- (di-) + λῆμμα (lêmma, “premise, proposition”).
binary trees have plenty dilemmas
@Zoe no one in your family can help?
 
user116848
So I was reading some motivation stuff I thought I should share it:
 
Zoe
3:57 PM
@kwak I don't live with my family. We have a bad relationship since childhood.
 
you and Jasper are two depressed Singaporeans :(
 
user116848
> The past is gone, the future unknown; remembering is a shame, worry is just pain; to live well in the instant is sane.

Removing whims and desires, one becomes peaceful.

Peace exists only in the mind! For complete peace, just peace: nothing is needed!

It doesn't matter what others think. Some have no other work but their thoughts. Stop caring about their thoughts.

That which allures has infinite strings attached. Maybe even more!
 
I can't help a lot, sorry, and I'm depressed too in some way
@Zoe work a bit (6 months) to get that money
 
Zoe
@kwak Idk, it's hard. I earn 1500, pay 650 rent, pay 150 tithes. plus food, transport and some necessities, i would be lucky if i can end a month with 50 dollar spare change in my bank, let alone 7000 at the end of 6 months.
 
2 jobs then, that's hard, but that's the price for your dream
 
Zoe
4:09 PM
@kwak Well, that's hard too. its a full time job, not a twice a week job. no space for a second one.
 
@Zoe there are jobs you can do the evening, or morning very early
 
Zoe
@kwak Not in singapore.
Singapore is a very different country. A part time job here is full hours but less days. cant fit a full hours job in my main job.
 
oh, then beg for a 0% interest loan from your family
they can do it, collectively if necessary
explain your project
 
Zoe
They live in a one room flat, 4 of them. I cant take their savings nor do they have enough to give it all to me
poverty cycle, it's hard. I need to strike the lottery or something.
 
Their savings.. that's not useful to save money, what can people save for, and anyway you're going to pay them back (at inflation interest rate rather than 0)
 
Zoe
4:16 PM
They cant live if they give it to me
 
o well they must have a bit extra in bank, or try to save each one for you 1250 SGD each and 2000 from you
 
Zoe
sigh, singapore is a hard city to live in. it's not like there are farm jobs i can take or live on a farm and work at the same time so i dont have to pay rent. its rather expensive in a difficult way rather than in a luxurious way
well, im gonna go to sleep now. see you all next time. thanks and bb
 
supermarket, you can do temporary jobs for them right?, you can beg them
you can do cleanings too, but that's less fun
@Zoe btw, Are there many smokers in the streets, or are they very rare to see?
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 such a cute little face!
 
4:30 PM
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 tell me that's not your pup or I may have to find out where you live and camp out on your porch.
 
If I ever post a picture of my animals, I'll say so. Otherwise, they're from the webbertubes.
 
Darn :(
 
I'm sorry!
Doze teef doe.
 
I bet you are, who wouldn't want that puppy.
 
:D
Okay, let me get you a picture of my cat.
 
4:31 PM
The dubious added benefit of a terdon camped on your porch is a different matter of course :)
 
I have a balcony.
My cat ^
 
:-O
your cat has a Raider eye patch
 
That's gonna be the cover of her debut album.
After she splits from the band.
 
so talented!
 
Cuuute! Does she play the bass or do you?
 
4:35 PM
@terdon That's a Moserite knockoff guitar.
@terdon She won't let me near it.
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Huh, really? Looked like a Fender bass.
 
see same eye :D
 
@terdon the phrase Fender bass always makes me think of this song.
@skullpatrol She's The Cat In the Hathaway Shirt.
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Listening to it now, that's a nice lick.
 
@terdon Blue vinyl!
 
4:42 PM
 
I like! I really should remember my musical roots and listen to more rock stuff. I've been delving deep into jazz lately.
@skullpatrol Is that supposed to suggest that players (or fans?) have no brain?
 
@terdon tee hee!
 
@terdon those swords are held behind the back pal
 
@skullpatrol Really? Could have sworn that was a head.
:P
 
4:51 PM
 
chat experiences momentary lapse in consciousness
 
posted on July 25, 2014 by sgdi

There once was a tree in a park The racoons would climb in after dark They’d make a great din Then dive into a bin Screeching and having a lark

 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 and kicks back
 
Ow!
I was rubbing my eye!
 
sorry :(
 
4:53 PM
if you can't take the beats get out of the night club
 
!!youtube da club 50 cent
 
If you can't take a beating get out of the fight club.
 
!!wiki fight club
 
Fight Club is a 1999 film based on the 1996 novel of the same name by Chuck Palahniuk. The film was directed by David Fincher and stars Edward Norton, Brad Pitt, and Helena Bonham Carter. Norton plays the unnamed protagonist, an "everyman" who is discontented with his white-collar job. He forms a "fight club" with soap maker Tyler Durden, played by Pitt, and they are joined by men who also want to fight recreationally. The narrator becomes embroiled in a relationship with Durden and a dissolute woman, Marla Singer, played by Bonham Carter. Palahniuk's novel was optioned by 20th Century Fox producer...
 
5:00 PM
@terdon It annoys me that Fight Club is being promoted with some sort of "special edition" nonsense. So un-fight club :D
 
user116848
@kwak Are you c.c or some other person? Because the pic is same.
 
@MattЭллен There was a very nice Zappa quote about that.
 
@terdon I don't know any Zappa quotes! What was it?
 
@MattЭллен Can't find it, it was a sticker on a re-relesased album of his stating something to the effect of "remastered so you can buy the same album again like an idiot"
 
some people idolise him
 
5:06 PM
@terdon lol. exactly
 
hmm the noun is spelled with a "z"?
!!define idolise
 
@skullpatrol idolise Non-Oxford British English standard spelling of
 
!!define idolize
 
@skullpatrol idolize To make an idol of, or to worship as an idol.
 
@skullpatrol I do. He was a bleedin genius.
 
5:09 PM
we have different definitions of what a"genius" is sir
 
@skullpatrol Umm. Do you know anything about him?
 
and I bleed the silver & black fyi
 
The man was a brilliant and prolific composer, a gifted player with an incredibly distinctive style, extremely intelligent and articulate, and produced musical masterpieces in any style you care to name from rock through jazz to classical.
You can like his music or not but his genius is not really debated.
 
@skullpatrol What are these things you keep one-boxing? That's some kind of sports team right? They seem to be very important to you but don't you think that three of them in a row is enough to make your point?
Ah, american football right?
 
5:14 PM
NFL
 
That's football right?
 
!!wiki oakland raiders
 
Founded in 1960, the Oakland Raiders are an American football team based in Oakland, California. For the first ten seasons of their existence, the Raiders belonged to the American Football League; they have been members of the National Football League since the 1970 AFL–NFL merger. As of 2013, the Raiders belong to the Western Division of the American Football Conference. Over the span of fifty-four seasons, the Raiders have experienced considerable success. Entering the 2014 season the Raiders sported a regular season record of 434–375–11, with a playoff record of 25–18. In the club's first three...
 
Sorry, I don't even care about sports that are popular in the country I live in, let alone the more obscure ones.
 
did you watch the world cup?
 
5:16 PM
@terdon lol. What's obscure, the NFL, or America? ;)
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 The NFL.
Well, American football in general, any sport that comes with a country prepended is obscure by default since it is likely only popular in that one country.
@skullpatrol Nope. Or no more than I was forced to.
 
@Arrowfar yes
 
Seriously though, what's the point of these raiders images you keep posting? Are you trying to convince someone of something? Do they make some kind of point I don't get 'cause of my sports ignorance? Why are they?
 
@terdon if you're a biologist, I asked this question biology.stackexchange.com/questions/19946/…
 
@kwak and if terdon is not a biologist, you ... didn't ask the question?
 
5:19 PM
Heh.
@kwak Not my field though @medica had something o say on the matter a few days back, you might find the transcript interesting. Bear in mind though that we are extremely well equipped to fight them. Your immune and respiratory systems have all sorts of goodies.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 in the link it is
@terdon interesting, thanks
 
@kwak I was just teasing about your sentence structure. nm.
 
Huh, @kwak I found the transcript of the conversation I was looking for and it turns out it was with you!
Jul 2 at 11:01, by medica
@cc no, I don't believe it is. There is a minimum diameter to particle size (aside from composition) that makes it dangerous, and dust is much larger than that minimum diameter. Dust above that size is caught by the moisture-laden mucous membranes, and cilia in the respiratory tract transports the particles that penetrate the lower areas up the tract to be coughed out or swallowed. Very fine particle dust (which is not your average dust) can be dangerous if it is comprised of carcinogens, like soot would be (soot from burning matter, not dust sooty.) Dust can make your eyes water and make you cough, but by and large, our bodies take care of it even in quantities found in libraries the world over. Some of his references are not solid, and he misrepresents at least some of them (I used to do cancer research, so I know a little bit about it.) You should see what a 70 year old person's lungs (non-smoker) look like. They're practically pristine.
 
@terdon yes I remember of course, but...
right
 
Don't be too paranoid about second hand smoke, it will not kill you in small doses...
...after all the first hand smoke went in the smokers lungs already.
 
5:28 PM
@skullpatrol I think he can't help it. If I understood him correctly, he is actually pathologically paranoid about it. No offense meant @kwak that's what I think you said.
 
@skullpatrol yes, but I feel like it kills me proportionally, so say I inhale 0.5% of the cigarette of someone, I take 0.05% damage this day compared to a 10cig/day smoker
@terdon yes right, the pathos is affected
 
@kwak but the damage from smoking can be repaired.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 good point too
as long as it's not a stroke
 
life is short
enjoy it
 
@skullpatrol I know , already at 25%-33% right now
 
5:30 PM
Well, yeah. not things like that. But the little daily accumulations that build up and turn your lungs black start getting cleaned out after you stop smoking. Which in your case is all the time - your lungs are always cleaning that stuff out.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Hate to say this but that depends on the damage. Mutations caused by free radicals released by imperfect combustion (the main source of problems associated with smoking) can be tricky. Also, the cillia lining your respiratory tracts never come back. Other things do.
 
@terdon yes but how much of the severe damage ever gets incurred through occasional 2nd-hand smoke?
 
@skullpatrol but really in my mind I feel like when getting past a smoker I lose life percent, but I'm being treated currently no worry
 
@kwak I'd say "take a deep breath and relax" but in this case you might want to not take that deep breath :)
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 :)) excellent, now it's safe to breathe
 
5:32 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I would guess that's negligible.
 
@terdon ok, are you on any medications?
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 heh. I wonder if he realizes that he's not getting anywhere.
"This is harder than I thought"
 
air is actually easier to swim in
 
5:35 PM
@skullpatrol No.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Hey, this "bath" thing is a breeze!
 
@kwak if you keep worrying so much about it you may need medications, which could have worse side effects...
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I like this scene
 
@terdon "I've seen cartoons. Just keep walking, don't look down, it'll be fine."
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Did you see the blog where Ryan North (of Dinosaur comics) rips apart the novelization of BTTF?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I did not.
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 btothef.tumblr.com
 
5:37 PM
@skullpatrol well after 4 years of worrying, I'm taking medications since 1 week, they have some bad effects (tacchicardia, blocked nose, my jaw is hard to retain it's funny I can't talk well)
 
Someday I'll remember that tumblrs are blocked.
 
@kwak So therapy and medications?
 
@skullpatrol therapy isn't powerful now, only injections can work
neuro-transmitters must be re-balanced, dopamine for example is completely fucked up in me
 
@kwak have gotten a second opinion from another specialist?
 
@skullpatrol yep, more than 2, and the last I saw is really renowned
 
5:42 PM
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 oh, boo!
 
so I didn't hesitate one second with those big seringes :)
 
What disease are you suffering from?
 
fear of second hand smoke
 
FOSHS?
 
@skullpatrol the medication cost a lot too, but it's free for me, so that's cool too
@Cerberus schizo
 
5:44 PM
Umm...
 
@kwak stick with the therapist
 
@kwak Oh, that sounds bad.
 
@skullpatrol yep
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 If you are willing to buy the ebook version, sight-unseen, you can get it at lulu. Or Amazoin
 
5:45 PM
@Cerberus the good news is this medication I take, works really well, against placebos for example
 
Now accepting Bitcon.
 
I did that on porpoise.
 
@kwak Great!
 
a weak death toll :))
 
BBL Microcenter
 
5:45 PM
There's a guy where I work named "Marlon". Sometimes I misspell his name as Marloin. it's an "accident" I swear.
 
BBC
 
@kwak a good therapist + medications is the best strategy
 
@kwak good luck!
 
Always this focus on the loins...
 
@skullpatrol yes, an efficient therapist (we just talked 40 minutes, his time cost $$) :)
@terdon thanks, you too for jobs
 
5:47 PM
:)
 
@Cerberus more important to focus on the lions. I have a special stone that protects me from lions. I can sell it to you if you like...
 
@terdon the therapist can control the dosages
work together, trust him
 
@MattЭллен Oh! How much?
My soil?
 
@Cerberus 7 bitcoins, or maybe 8
 
Oh, that's only €3500.
 
5:49 PM
:D
a bargain for what I offer in lion prevention
 
A bargain, especially if you look at the lion plague we're suffering from.
 
indeed
 
They're in every nook and cranny.
 
They're even in my batteries!
2
 
5:50 PM
Hello!
They're very powerful!
 
Hiya!
 
Hi!
 
@aediaλ Those are the liions.
 
Yes, with their two-i'd prowess.
 
6:04 PM
in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 3 hours ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
Did you know that 9 out of 10 constipated people don't give a shit?
 
lol
 
did you know that 10 out of 9 ratios are reported incorrectly?
 
5 out of every 4 people have problems with fractions?
 
6:34 PM
1 hour ago, by Jarvis the Bot
@skullpatrol idolise Non-Oxford British English standard spelling of
What is "Non-Oxford British English?
 
In the OED idolize is spelt with a z
it is taken to be the usual English spelling
Idolise is probably acceptable as an alternative, since many English words that are spelt with ize in the US are spelt with ise in the UK
 
why bring Oxford into it, why not just say 'Non-British Eng'
 
because it's specifically referring to the generally accepted spelling in BrE as being recorded in the OED
so Idolise is a "non-standard" (if English had a standard) spelling
i.e. idolise is far less frequently used in BrE
 
"This area references all topics that fall under" OR "This area references all topics which fall under"
 
6:44 PM
which one is correct?
 
depends on the full sentence
both are OK
 
@MattЭллен "History and evolution of various kinds of studies."
Does that sound right or is it weird?
 
@DemCodeLines Full sentence please :)
 
That is the full sentence.
It's a bullet point.
 

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