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9:10 AM
@medica we had a similar "civil" user spreading ugliness on MSE who recently was banned for one year. Give the system some time to react :-)
 
@skullpatrol well, at this rate, I'm going to be the one to be banned for declined flags in a short time period.
I can't believe it's OK to refer to women the way he does.
 
Let the mods do their appointed jobs @medica
 
And the community does nothing?
No flagging ugly stuff?
 
We watch the fun :-)
 
Doesn't that imply the mods are responsible for reading every question and comment?
 
9:14 AM
Some do
 
The site advocates flagging if we see ugly stuff.
It's supposed to be a help to the mods, not a hinderance.
 
9:32 AM
Oh, FFS.
 
@Robusto My thought exactly.
 
9:49 AM
!!urban FFS
 
@skullpatrol FFS Acronym for, for fuck's sake.
 
@medica the system is far from perfect
It's like a cyber experiment in Darwinism :-)
 
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10:33 AM
@medica Is this reliable, medically speaking?
not just dirty books, but the effects of fine dust (second-hand smoke,...)
 
@tchrist thank you for unlawlerizing the lawlerization.
@JarvistheBot let's use commas for quotes" and vice versa!
 
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!!tell Reg ok
 
@cc Command ok does not exist.
 
I only just noticed Rob is oblique.
 
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oblique?
 
10:38 AM
Probably because he's an owner now.
With great power comes great tilt.
 
Since June 25 at 19:43, it says here.
 
20:43, it says here.
 
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he could be parabolic too, quadratic
 
But nothing about oblique.
 
11:01 AM
@cc no, I don't believe it is. There is a minimum diameter to particle size (aside from composition) that makes it dangerous, and dust is much larger than that minimum diameter. Dust above that size is caught by the moisture-laden mucous membranes, and cilia in the respiratory tract transports the particles that penetrate the lower areas up the tract to be coughed out or swallowed. Very fine particle dust (which is not your average dust) can be dangerous if it is comprised of carcinogens, like soot would be (soot from burning matter, not dust sooty.) Dust can make your eyes water and make you cough, but by and large, our bodies take care of it even in quantities found in libraries the world over. Some of his references are not solid, and he misrepresents at least some of them (I used to do cancer research, so I know a little bit about it.) You should see what a 70 year old person's lungs (non-smoker) look like. They're practically pristine.
 
@RegDwigнt It took you almost four years to figure that out?
I have always been oblique. Just not visibly.
 
@Robusto no, it took me four seconds to notice it, but I spent four years forgetting to post it here.
 
I guess you had to work at that.
 
It was not quite as easy as cake in a park, no.
 
@cc The "study" itself is ridiculous: "Hey, I noticed that my librarian has lung cancer, I therefore conclude that being a librarian is dangerous even if I have absolutely no evidence apart from my own isolated observations and have performed no statistical analysis to evaluate their validity". No wonder he published on some webpage and not an actual journal.
I'm not saying it's wrong mind you, just that he's proven absolutely nothing and can't do so given his total lack of data.
 
11:19 AM
@terdon Librarians should put in for hazardous duty pay.
 
@Robusto Damn straight they should. There are few things in the universe more dangerous than books.
Also, sword, pen, mightier and all.
 
When facing a hungry lion?
 
@terdon Gotta laugh at the different ways we answered this question. The doctor's reply and the researcher's reply. :D
 
:)
 
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Q: Difference between “each” and “every”

user82779In which of the following sentences is the underlined expression used correctly?

lol, a new kind of off-topic question...
 
11:32 AM
@terdon I know right! You can kill a
man with a book. A well placed teetering bookshelf. A library on fire. I'm sure you could suffocate someone of you could figure out how to stuff it in their mouth.
 
@Mitch One page at a time?
 
Nice.
 
@terdon They (supposedly) teach us how to read research papers (with a semester of statictics, and it fails miserably). I didn't even consider this a research paper. It's more of an opinion piece. Even so, could I say that? Nooooo.... I had to go into the physiology.
 
Off to breakfast. A novella or long magazine article, with a garnish of advertising
 
@medica Good! Different expertise begets different analyses and better understanding for all.
 
11:38 AM
I thought the fonts looked pretty good.
 
@terdon good one. How to design an experiment.
 
12:02 PM
This question appears to be off-topic because it is about the use of Latin terms in scientific taxonomy. — Robusto 17 secs ago
 
12:26 PM
I don't understand how it is "very incongruous with not only the English language but all languages that I know of" if that's exactly what not only the English language but all languages that I know of actually do.
Actually I will comment just that.
 
@krowe: No, I called it a tyrannasaurus. But I certainly didn't take the time to type or write the word. — Robusto 13 secs ago
 
Tyrannasaurus?
I think you mean Rihannasaurus.
 
Spoken languages don't trouble themselves with capitalizations.
Thank you. I've always depended on the kindness of Russians.
 
I was more like O vs. A, not capital vs. uncapital.
 
Russians are so strange.
 
12:31 PM
Hey, I suck at typing this morning. As per usual.
 
@Robusto kindness or ineptitude. Either works to justify your country not having been turned into a parking lot yet.
 
@RegDwigнt We're getting there! Give us time!
they paved paradise, put up a parking lot
 
gives time
 
You are a Lebowski achiever.
 
I am more of a Treehorn, myself.
 
user116848
12:33 PM
Hi everybody :D
 
user116848
I have a small Qs
 
Is it less common for Russian names to end in -ski than for Polish ones? Seems that way.
 
@Robusto not only is it less common, they would also end in -skiy instead.
 
@RegDwigнt In Roman characters, no less. Interesting.
 
user116848
@Mitch What's some alternatives of saying "You heard me" while snapping back at someone?
 
user116848
12:36 PM
Can I say "You heard it" ??
 
@Robusto actually the only -skiy guys I can think of all had Polish roots. So they don't even count.
Konstantin Rokossovsky (, ; – August 3, 1968) was a Soviet officer of Polish origin who became a Marshal of the Soviet Union, a Marshal of Poland and served as Poland's Defence Minister. He was among the most prominent Red Army commanders of World War II, especially renowned for his planning and executing of Operation Bagration, one of the most decisive Red Army successes of the War. Biography Rokossovsky was born in Warsaw, then part of the Russian Empire. His family had moved to Warsaw with the appointment of his father as the inspector of the Warsaw Railways. The Rokossovsky family ...
 
Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky (; ; tr. Pyotr Ilyich Chaykovsky; 7 May 1840 – 6 November 1893), often anglicised as Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky , was a Russian composer whose works included symphonies, concertos, operas, ballets, chamber music, and a choral setting of the Russian Orthodox Divine Liturgy. Some of these are among the most popular theatrical music in the classical repertoire. He was the first Russian composer whose music made a lasting impression internationally, which he bolstered with appearances as a guest conductor later in his career in Europe and the United States. One of...
You couldn't think of poor Pyotr?
 
Vadim Nikolayevich Podbelsky (; November 1887, Yakutia - February 25, 1920, Moscow) was a Russian revolutionary and Bolshevik statesman following the Russian Revolution. Podbelsky joined the Bolshevik Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1905. During the 1905 uprising he was involved in anti-government demonstrations and meetings. Fearing arrest, Podbelsky fled to France in 1906. Vadim Podbelsky was buried in the Kremlin Wall Necropolis. Station Ulitsa Podbelskogo on the Moscow Metro is named in his honour.
@Robusto apparently not!
 
user116848
Mitch you there?
 
Podbelsky famously died from blood poisoning after stepping on a rusty nail while cleaning up the Beautiful Red Square during a subbotnik.
:For the Jewish-identifying community, see Subbotniks. Subbotnik and voskresnik (from for Saturday and воскресе́нье, for Sunday) were days of volunteer work following the October Revolution. The tradition is continued in modern Russia and some other former Soviet Republics. Subbotniks are mostly organized for cleaning the streets of garbage, fixing public amenities, collecting recyclable material, and other community services. The first subbotnik was held on April 12, 1919, at the Moscow-Sortirovochnaya railway depot of the Moscow-Kazan Railway upon the initiative of local bolsheviks...
 
12:42 PM
@RegDwigнt In English we don't hear a difference between ий and и (or й).
 
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!!wiki vapnik
 
Vladimir Naumovich Vapnik () is one of the main developers of Vapnik–Chervonenkis theory. He was born in the Soviet Union. He received his master's degree in mathematics at the Uzbek State University, Samarkand, Uzbek SSR in 1958 and Ph.D in statistics at the Institute of Control Sciences, Moscow in 1964. He worked at this institute from 1961 to 1990 and became Head of the Computer Science Research Department. At the end of 1990, he moved to the USA and joined the Adaptive Systems Research Department at AT&T Bell Labs in Holmdel, New Jersey. The group later became the Image Processing Rese...
 
@Robusto You also don't hear a difference between there, they're, and their, or 've and of. Hence all of the world's problems!
> Vladimir Naumovich Vapnik () is one of the main developers of Vapnik–Chervonenkis theory.
 
100% of the world's problems are because Robusto can't tell some homophones apart
 
@RegDwigнt That's why Steinbeck called his novel 'Ve Mice and Men.
 
12:47 PM
It seems unlikely, but we've run the statistics
 
I wonder who another one of the main developers of Vapnik–Chervonenkis theory was.
 
@RegDwigнt Why do you always make this about me. Obviously, your silly language is the problem.
 
@Robusto nah, my silly language is dying out.
 
Is it true that you can't buy a 6-pack in most countries in Europe because of the metric system?
 
When was the last time you saw a Russian misspell an ий as и? And when was the last time you saw an American misspell it's as its? Thought so.
@Robusto it is not true. Sixpacks are ubiquitous. Eggs, however, only come in dozens in France. Everywhere else it's tens.
 
12:50 PM
@Arrowfar depends on the context.
 
@RegDwigнt Half-dozens in Britain.
 
Ten eggs. And you call yourself civilized.
 
:16382849 that is true, sixpacks are for sissies. We prefer barrels. Also, of actual beer, not Bud.
@AndrewLeach Britain is not Europe.
 
user116848
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So any examples?
 
@Robusto no, I call myself by the same name my mother called me. Easier that way.
 
12:51 PM
@Arrowfar I'm not feeling very snappy. I'd need a scenario.
 
I'm glad the US lost to a ten-egg-eating country. Perhaps this will open the eyes of Europe to the egg predicament the metric system has saddled them with.
 
Whaaat!
 
@RegDwigнt Interesting, your mom calls you "easier that way"? I wonder what that's about.
 
@Robusto You're just generally glad and are now looking for excuses.
 
@Robusto I don't even understand that, but how dare you!!
 
12:52 PM
@Robusto it cannot be misspolen in English. Or Russian. She's smart and stuff.
 
@RegDwigнt I wish. However, it is part of "everywhere else".
 
Jun 14 at 13:39, by Robusto
The metric system has decimated Europe.
 
@AndrewLeach not for me no it isn't.
 
I rest my case.
 
@AndrewLeach I think we have either 10 or 6.
 
12:53 PM
I case my rest.
 
Robusto has rested his case so often, it must be torn through at the bottom by now.
Everyone chip in for a new case.
Seven tögrögs from me.
 
throws in a Dorito
 
Oh, we also have 4.
 
I suppose next European women will be forced to have ten ovaries instead of two. Just because of the metric system.
 
So 10, 6, 4.
 
user116848
12:55 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Let's say someone lies to me in a formal setting and I say something like 'When you say something to do it then just do it' and he says 'Whaat'? so then I am like "You heard me". So any alternatives there?
 
@Robusto well they already are not allowed to wear burkas. It's begun.
 
@Cerberus If it was 10, 2, and 4 it could be a Dr. Pepper.
 
Huh?
I think that is a disgusting beverage?
 
@RegDwigнt Yeah. They force women to wear metric clothes.
@Cerberus Are you asking me or telling me?
 
I am telling you what I know about it and asking you whether that is what you mean.
 
12:56 PM
The meric system is Unametrican.
 
Hah.
 
!!wiki metric system
 
Un-American is a pejorative term of U.S. political discourse which is applied to people or institutions in the United States seen as deviating from what are widely perceived to be fundamental American cultural and political values. The most famous use is in the title of the House Un-American Activities Committee which was started to investigate alleged disloyalty and subversive activities on the part of private citizens, public employees, and those organizations suspected of having Communist ties. By 1959, former President Harry S. Truman had denounced the Committee as the "most un-Ameri...
 
@Arrowfar In a "formal" setting? You could say something like "Don't play dumb" or "Don't act like you didn't hear me" or something to that effect.
 
@Cerberus I don't mean it is a disgusting beverage, though it may very well be.
 
12:57 PM
I dunno I don't really argue with people in formal settings, I'm Canadian.
 
user116848
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 And in a informal one??
 
user116848
:)
 
OK, I think all European computers should start using decimal instead of binary code. Starting . . . now!
I didn't think so.
 
Boom goes San Fran, and boom Chicago.
 
We don't have a problem with binary.
 
12:58 PM
@Robusto we just have to use 5 computers to do every calculation
 
HEY @RegDwigнt I AM GOING TO REPORT YOU FOR THAT
 
@MattЭллен Kinda hard to arrange that in the average bed-sit, innit?
 
@Robusto no, but the nuclear warheads pointed at you do.
 
@Robusto In a land of chaos, one more wreck makes little difference.
 
@Cerberus Then the Netherlands should fit right in.
 
12:59 PM
@skullpatrol I am just telling Rob in which ways exactly his plan has not been thought through.
 
@Robusto just use Raspberry Pis
 
@RegDwigнt That was MY link
 
@Arrowfar It depends on how aggressive you would be. There isn't really a set of idiomatic come-backs.
 
When our computers go apeshit, the first country to suffer will be the US, because that's what our apeshit is pointed at.
 
@RegDwigнt I don't personally have any nuclear warheads pointed at me. Nuclear warheads don't single any one individual out.
 
1:00 PM
@Robusto I could arrange for something.
 
@Robusto We weren't making water last year. Let me think, where was it again that coastal cities shut down recently...
 
@Cerberus You went a whole year without making water? Your whole country did?
 
Don't do it again pal
 
Must have been a relief when New Year's rolled around.
 
@Robusto they treaded the one they already had. And they had plenty.
 
user116848
1:01 PM
Is this sentence grammatical? "When you say something to do it then just do it"
 
!!wiki propaganda
 
Nazi poster (from around 1938) reads: "60,000 [[Reichsmark is what this person suffering from a hereditary defect costs the People's community during his lifetime. Fellow citizen, that is your money too. Read '[[Neues Volk|[A] New People]]', the monthly magazine of the Bureau for Race Politics of the NSDAP."]] Propaganda is a form of communication aimed towards influencing the attitude of a population toward some cause or position. Propaganda is information that is not impartial and used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively ...
 
It might be grammatical but it makes no sense.
 
> 81. make water,
a. to urinate.
b. Nautical . (of a hull) to leak.
 
The Nethernauticals.
 
user116848
1:02 PM
@RegDwigнt But is it? When I am scolding somebody let's say.
 
No, the sea urinated on America.
Happens to the best, of course.
 
@Arrowfar It doesn't make sense. Maybe "When you say you'll do something, just do it!"
 
user116848
I see :D
 
No, this is scheduled for Sunday.
 
1:05 PM
 
@RegDwigнt I was kidding :-)
you knew right?
 
Vladimir Vladimirovich Mayakovsky (; – April 14, 1930) was a Russian and Soviet poet, playwright, artist and stage and film actor. He is among the foremost representatives of early-20th century Russian Futurism. Early life He was born the last of three children in Baghdati, Kutaisi Governorate, Russian Empire (now in Georgia) where his father worked as a forest ranger. His father was of Ukrainian Cossack descent and his mother was of Kuban Cossacks descent. Although Mayakovsky spoke Georgian at school and with friends, his family spoke primarily Russian at home. At the age of 14 ...
Forgot about him.
 
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Q: A word for annoying behavior which decreases quality of game

MathleticsI'm looking for a word which describes an annoying behavior that decreases the overall quality of a game or match, specifically in online gaming (Halo, Call of Duty, etc.) The behavior, while not expressly prohibited by the rules and thus not technically cheating, is generally agreed to be undes...

 
The legacy of Communism.
 
You'd think Hades was stuffed with maps, wouldn't you?
 
1:07 PM
@Robusto He organized a Lifetime Achievement exhibition of his works at the age of 30. Pretty rad.
 
We manage the surface from below.
 
Then took his life a couple years later.
 
(That was 7 years ago: Eastern Europe has become richer in the mean time. And Ireland poorer.)
 
@Robusto mostly with cartographers. The maps quickly disintegrate in those conditions.
@Cerberus "That was 7 years ago: forty people in Eastern Europe have become much richer in the mean time." FTFY
 
Hehe.
That is quite a lot, compared with the 40 people who are rich in Western Europe.
And Berlusconi alone is are 2 of those people.
The -i is plural, and he is fat.
 
1:12 PM
@Cerberus Wait a minute. I didn't realize Switzerland was so poor. We should organize some kind of comic relief or something.
 
Yes, they need humorous aid.
 
@Robusto they threw out all the immigrants, who took all their money with them.
 
user116848
Can I say to someone who is 'lying' or I suspect of them being a liar that "Don't lie to me" especially in a formal setting? Also in a informal one? (Because once I said it to someone and she got very defensive)
 
The Swiss are really just a set of competing drug cartels.
 
@Arrowfar You can say it, but people generally get defensive when you call them a liar.
 
1:17 PM
If you call me a liar, you'd better smile when you say that, pardner. Them's fightin' words where I come from. — Robusto Jan 21 '11 at 20:07
 
user116848
@KitFox So what are some mild but 'with weight' expressions? So the next person is careful next time?
 
user116848
:)
 
Not sure. "That's a creative interpretation of the truth"?
"I guess we view the situation differently."
"You must have information that I don't."
 
"You must be fun at constitutional attorney parties".
 
user116848
@KitFox What? I don't understand what you just wrote? :D
 
user116848
1:19 PM
Are these sayings?
 
user116848
:)
 
@Arrowfar Yes. Tactful and delicate ways to call someone a liar.
 
user116848
Oh, I see
 
!!wiki politically correct
 
Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a contentious term that today commonly refers to enforced language, ideas, or policies that address perceived discrimination against political, social or economical groups ("protected classes"). These groups most prominently include those defined by gender, race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, age and disability. In modern usage, the terms PC, politically correct, and political correctness are generally pejorative descriptors, whereas the term politically incorrect is used by oppo...
 
1:25 PM
@RegDwigнt And even more fun at unconstitutional attorney parties!
 
@Arrowfar Are you trying to be confrontational? 'You heard it' is not idiomatic English for that situation. You could say "You heard what I said" Or "didn't you hear me?" or "Didn't you hear what I said?" or "I don't think you heard what I was saying."
 
user116848
Nods
 
@Cerberus I'm moving!
 
user116848
Moving? :D
 
Why does zero get the plural?
 
1:34 PM
because zero is not one
 
and one is not zero
I have zero apples.
not zero apple
 
@MattЭллен Word.
 
zero apple
 
Substitute "no" for "zero" and it's the same thing.
 
there are occasions where zero and the singular go together. E.g. "the zero hour"
 
1:37 PM
@Robusto that works :)
 
but that's slightly different
It's called "the singluar"
 
is zero plural?
 
zero is not singular
 
@MattЭллен this
 
@Robusto exactly
 
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1:39 PM
zeroes
 
also double zero
 
Curiously, -1 is also not singular. "If I have five apples and I give you six, I have -1 apples."
 
yes, I was thinking about that
it's weird
 
show me a negative apple
 
c c
is i^64 singular or plural?
 
1:43 PM
@skullpatrol Negative apples are conspicuous in their absence.
@skullpatrol Microsoft!
 
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!!> Math.pow(Math.I,64)
 
@cc 6.5704006445716965e+31
@cc "NaN"
 
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oh well, I overestimated javascript
 
javascript says it's not singular :D
 
@cc You overestimated your ability to type. Don't you mean Math.PI, not Math.I?
!!> Math.pow(Math.PI,64)
 
1:45 PM
@Robusto 6.5704006445716965e+31
 
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@Robusto no i, the complex number, but it doesn't exist in js
 
I think Math.I is undefined
 
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yep, doesn't exist
 
Yeah. You can express it differently, though.
 
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matricially
 
1:46 PM
!!> Math.sqrt(-1)
 
@MattЭллен "NaN"
 
@MattЭллен It's not weird. Only 1 is singular number. Anything else, including 1.00, gets a plural.
 
I wonder when mainstream programming languages will have complex numbers by default
 
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Q: Is 1.0 singular or plural?

Ken Possible Duplicate: Should we use plural or singular for a fraction of a mile? I'm working on a website that displays distance to various locations to the nearest 1/10 mile. One of the developers (a non-native speaker) asked me an interesting question: If the distance is 1.0 mile(s), i...

 
1:48 PM
@MattЭллен Yeah. Oh, well. JavaScript just doesn't have enough imagination to handle imaginary numbers.
 
@AndrewLeach the fact that decimal points interferes with singularity is weird
it's the same amount!
 
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@Robusto it focuses on real problems
 
The answer explains that with integrity.. integrality... integer-ness.
 
I see. I'll give it a read
 
1 = 1.000....
 
1:50 PM
@Arrowfar yeah, I want darker green because that'll make me rich.
 
!!> (1 === 1.000)
 
c c
1 = sum_1^infty 1/2^k, or sum_1^infty 9*10^-k
 
Or maybe lighter green, because whatever I am now I'll e considered better off in the lighter green areas.
 
@Robusto true
 
Jarvis says yes. But he had to think about it.
 
1:51 PM
I suppose it's one of those "well, that's just how it's said" answers. I don't believe that people thought "it's not an integer, so it's not singular" that's just not what the masses do.
 
user116848
@Mitch What? What are you referring to?
 
What about this @AndrewLeach?
 
@skullpatrol there are so many of them
 
11 mins ago, by Robusto
Curiously, -1 is also not singular. "If I have five apples and I give you six, I have -1 apples."
 
-1 is not the same as 1.
Only 1 is singular. Anything else is not.
 
1:52 PM
@MattЭллен I think FraserOrr nailed it.
 
@Arrowfar follow the links back to Cerbs per capita GDP picture of Europe.
 
@Robusto It doesn't ring true with me, but I'm no linguist
 
@AndrewLeach but 1=0.9999....
0.9999.... is singular?
 
@skullpatrol no
 
@MattЭллен Your populist diatribe against 0 is repulsive. I bet you think -1*-1 = 1, you commie.
 
1:55 PM
!!wiki 1=0.9999....
 
@skullpatrol The Wikipedia contains no knowledge of such a thing
 
@AndrewLeach sure it is, from the other side.
 
@skullpatrol the rule seems to be "if it's anything other than 1, a, an or the then it's not singular"
 
Gah, not this old tired discussion again.
Plural doesn't mean "more than one". It means "any number other than one". 1.0001 is plural. 0.99999 is plural. 0 is plural. -1 is plural. Only 1 is singular. The nature of singularity is being single, isn't it? Everything else is plural. — nohat ♦ Jan 24 '11 at 18:27
See the date?
 
and that's 1 in the word sense, not the maths sense
 
1:55 PM
All matters settled three years ago.
 
@MattЭллен maths is overrated. Also a plural like -1.
 
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@AndrewLeach -1 = sqrt(1)=sqrt(i*-i)=sqrt(e^(i.pi/2).e^(-i.pi/2)) = e^(i.pi/4).e^(-i.pi/4) = 1
 
@MattЭллен OK, that makes sense, thanks
 
no probs
 
@cc Ha! Very clever. And flawed -- probably at the first equal sign, but I'm not a mathematician.
(In that you are deliberately choosing one root out of two possibles)
 
1:59 PM
You could shorten that up a bit and say 1 = sqrt(1) = -1
 

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