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> Body and mind detached: one floating, defying physics, soaring beyond our perceptions; the other in front of me, needle still taped around leg, heavy and expired.

Is that correct? Im worried about the "needle still taped around leg"

ЯegDwight

I imagine a needle can be taped to a leg. But not around it.

KitFox

I agree.

ЯegDwight

10:25 PM

But I dunno what kind of needle it's supposed to be.

KitFox

Although it's understandable.

ЯegDwight

Is this sci-fi?

Nile

Poison-injection... The kind they give to dogs in order to put them down

KitFox

I'd picture it as a needle held to the leg with tape around the leg to hold it in place.

ЯegDwight

Well yes, them's a question of style, not comprehendingisibilitiae's.

Cerberus

10:26 PM

@ЯegDwight What's not to understand about kātahi ka hurō katoa te tini?

ЯegDwight

@Cerberus rō.

Nile

Thanks

KitFox

Hi @Nile, are you a writer?

pants eagerly

Cerberus

@ЯegDwight Sliblablo.

Nile

@KitFox Not professionally... why?

Cerberus

10:27 PM

@KitFox Uhm she could be a minor.

ЯegDwight

@Cerberus gayzondheid.

Cerberus

@ЯegDwight Selber.

ЯegDwight

Touche.

KitFox

@Nile So do you want to come to the Writers chats on Tuesdays?

Cerberus

bows

KitFox

10:27 PM

pounces with own agenda

ЯegDwight

This Cerberus guy is getting better.

Nile

@KitFox Are those fun? What's it about?

Cerberus

Pah.

ЯegDwight

Anyhoo. Lemme max out on close votes on SO and leave this mortal coil for marshmallow dreamland.

KitFox

@Nile We do a writing exercise (for people who want to) and talk about the stuff we're working on and do a ten-minute timed write on a surprise topic for fun.

user19161

10:29 PM

@ЯegDwight At what?

Cerberus

This mortal coil?

ЯegDwight

Yes, the one you iPod shuffle.

Nile

@KitFox Sure, sounds cool.

KitFox

We're starting in on prep for NaNo next week, but you can bring whatever.

ЯegDwight

@WillHunting at not getting worse.

Oh is it NaNo time yet again?

KitFox

10:30 PM

We meet in The Overlook around 1pm Eastern on Tuesdays.

Mahnax

What is NaNo?

user19161

@KitFox NaNo looks like writing by those who cannot spell. TheY Type LiKe thIS.

WMD

Am I close?

Nile

is that National Novel Writing Month?

ЯegDwight

@WMD see. It doesn't mean "give me that bread". QED. @Cerberus.

KitFox

10:31 PM

@Nile Yes.

Nile

@KitFox okay.

ЯegDwight

Yeah, NaNoWriMo.

KitFox

Some people are interested in getting ready and maybe trying it this year.

ЯegDwight

\But the cool kids these days are all just nano this, nano that.

KitFox

Some people I'm sure will just want to share what they are doing.

user19161

10:32 PM

@ЯegDwight My thumbdrive is called nano!

WMD

My iPod is called nano.

Cerberus

@ЯegDwight It means what we mean.

ЯegDwight

@WillHunting I am flabbergasted. And honoured. Also, what?

Cerberus

@WMD !

Blasphemer!

Thou shalt not mention the evil fruit.

Nile

has everybody heard this?: a.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrc7gorTXZ1qes3k5o1.mp3

user19161

10:33 PM

@ЯegDwight When did you switch to BrE?

Mahnax

Oh, NaNo sounds interesting. Some of my friends did it last year, I think.

WMD

@Cerberus Who's the evil fruit?

Cerberus

Your thing.

As I said earlier, Iphones are gay.

So are Ipods.

Mahnax

iPods are nice. Ain't nothin' wrong with iPods.

Cerberus

QED.

WMD

10:34 PM

gets flags ready

Cerberus

gets rotten tomatoes ready

user19161

@Cerberus I feel I am gay sometimes too, hehe.

Mahnax

Rotten? But you just dried them yesterday!

Nile

a.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrc7gorTXZ1qes3k5o1.mp3 make-sure-you-have-tissues

Cerberus

@WillHunting But at least you don't feel like a white plastic kiddo toy, do you?

@Mahnax Ehh they need to ferment a bit?

WMD

10:35 PM

Yeah, but t'issues that I have are different from t'issues you have!

ЯegDwight

@WillHunting yes, I feel you are gay sometimes too, hehe.

Especially after seeing that movie.

WMD

@ЯegDwight I hope it doesn't hurt when you feel that.

KitFox

@Mahnax Come join us!

WMD

I used to date someone who insisted on using the word "bicycle" when she meant "bisexual".

ЯegDwight

@WMD do I look like it does?

user19161

10:37 PM

@ЯegDwight Summer storm?

ЯegDwight

Mahnax

@KitFox It sounds like fun, I'll give you that.

Cerberus

Ehm wtf?

WMD

@ЯegDwight Maybe a little.

Cerberus

There was a bike crash here.

KitFox

10:37 PM

@Nile Is there a punchline or something?

user19161

@ЯegDwight Looks terribleissimo!

ЯegDwight

@Cerberus In your room?

Cerberus

But all people involved appear to be able to stand.

No, just outside.

ЯegDwight

@Cerberus how's that a wtf? You want them to drop dead instead?

Nile

@KitFox No, it's a recording of a girl who lost her father in 9/11 and you hear her thoughts from year 1, 5, 10

Cerberus

10:38 PM

I only cycle when I'm going to a different room.

@ЯegDwight I don't want them to die, but they might have.

KitFox

@Nile I see. Is it you?

Cerberus

It sounded pretty unpleasant, the collision.

And they're still standing there.

ЯegDwight

Should have had some hooligans for padding.

Cerberus

Now they're gone.

Nile

@KitFox No, it's not. I'm of the opposite gender and fortunately have had no direct loss in 9/11.

ЯegDwight

10:39 PM

That would be a nice government project. Tie a hooligan to every streetlight.

Feed them so they are soft and fluffy.

Cerberus

Oh, they can feed themselves.

Beer bellies all over.

ЯegDwight

So when cyclists bump into them they don't go, OMG I is dead, but OMG you're so soft.

KitFox

I've got to get my boys to bed. Later!

Cerberus

Haha, great plan.

Bye!

ЯegDwight

I've got to get my self to bed. Morrows!

Cerberus

10:40 PM

Night!

WMD

@ЯegDwight Where will they defecate?

user19161

@ЯegDwight Morrows!

user19161

@KitFox Laterz!

Mahnax

@KitFox Who's planning to do it this year?

user19161

Wow, I got two stars today in this room, miracle!

Cerberus

10:43 PM

I think it will be mostly Kit, sometimes her husband.

user19161

I just got ten stars in the other room.

Cerberus

And at some point they will be old enough to go to bed themselves.

So by the way, I just got this message from someone I last saw 5 years ago or so.

It seems like some kind of flirtation.

What to do?

WMD

@Cerberus Hmmph

Cerberus

Yes, is it?

He said "hey, I remember you from 5 years ago, and, look, we have all these Facebook friends in common".

user19161

@Cerberus He might be trying to rekindle something. Talk to him and find out more.

Cerberus

10:46 PM

Yeah, perhaps...but he lives in this provincial town.

And other stuff.

I don't know.

What can I say, I'm a doubter.

user19161

@Cerberus No problem, just find out. You can always live together soon.

Cerberus

Haha.

Please, no.

WMD

@Robusto - it varies with your DIMM. So this one goes to 70 Celsius; others go to 85 Celsius.

user19161

It can happen overnight if both are willing.

Cerberus

I don't think I am.

user19161

10:47 PM

You should see first.

WMD

@Cerberus Well, that answers your question then.

user19161

Who knows he just might be the one.

Cerberus

@WMD Yeah...but I'm not 100 % sure.

So I'm just whining.

prime

Can i ask now?

user19161

Ask what?

prime

10:49 PM

ask question about english

WMD

@Cerberus What would help you understand whether you are willing?

Mahnax

Oh, @Cerberus, how did your date go?

Cerberus

Hmm but he works in Amsterdam.

user19161

@prime Ask!

prime

Where can i know/get the root of a English word?

user19161

10:50 PM

@Cerberus The city in the world with the most screwing.

Mahnax

@prime etymonline.com

WMD

Do you mean its etymology?

Cerberus

@WMD I...think meeting him and some of his friends, or something. I just think chances are not great. But perhaps I should try.

user19161

@prime For free, check m-w.com or etymonline.com or oxforddictionaries.com if you are talking about word origin.

Nile

If I have the following sentence, a clear reference to The Book Thief by Mark Zusak, would I put some kind of parenthetical citation? Or how would I let readers know that it's not my idea.

> Then my thoughts and feelings shifted to Death. Death. He who steals our colors and uses them as his vacation - he who takes pleasure in beauty while destroying it nonetheless.

Cerberus

10:50 PM

@Mahnax Oh, didn't I tell you? It was OK, but not fantastic. About as I expected.

@WillHunting I doubt that...

Mahnax

@Cerberus I wasn't around. Would you go out with that person again?

WMD

@prime can you clarify what you mean by "root"?

Cerberus

@Mahnax I wouldn't say no, but I wouldn't initiate it myself. Neither would he, I think. We had some good conversations, about personal stuff too, but I don't feel that it would be a good match.

Mahnax

@Cerberus Fair enough.

WMD

@Nile If it's a direct copy, you shouldn't use it. If it's just a tribute, then I would say you can just leave it in there as is; and the cognoscenti among your readers will appreciate it, and the others will never know.

@Mahnax Clever pronoun avoidance - "that person".

Cerberus

10:53 PM

He's also just coming out of this Leyden frat world. And out of the closet.

Oh, well.

He's a nice guy, just not for me.

Nile

@WMD Have you read The Book Thief? (Just wondering). It's narrated by Death and he discusses how he can't deal with what he has to do and yet he never gets a vacation, so he uses colors as his vacation.

Mahnax

Ah, you noticed?

user19161

@Cerberus I had some gay acquaintances who flirted with me, hehe.

prime

@WMD, root = minimums parts to make a word

Cerberus

@Nile Is it a direct quotation?

@WillHunting And did you like them?

WMD

10:54 PM

So your sentence really is just a tribute then? Should be fine. You can always put something in the "acknowledgements" section when you publish, I guess.

Nile

@Cerberus No, but Zusak uses "vacation" and "colors" when Death narrates these ideas to us.

user19161

@Cerberus No, I am not gay. But even straight people can have gay thoughts now and then.

WMD

@prime So, you mean, removing all the prefixes and suffixes, till you get to some inner core of meaning? Do you have an example that is causing you difficulty?

@WillHunting Define straight!

Cerberus

@Nile Do you expect your readers to recognise the reference?

prime

@WMD, break the word into minimal parts

user19161

10:55 PM

@WMD Well, no need to define, just the usual sense.

Nile

@Cerberus Maybe a minority. 30% probably.

Cerberus

If so, just leave it as it is, no mentioning needed.

WMD

Being straight is the usual sense?

Cerberus

@Nile Okay, then it's fine, as long as you don't use more than a word here and there.

Nile

@Cerberus I don't want to commit any "academic integrity" crimes, I'm hoping it's okay.

Cerberus

10:56 PM

@WillHunting Or bisexual people.

prime

breaking word into smaller parts

Cerberus

@Nile Indirectly referring to other works of art is 100 % fine.

prime

You can get 2/3/4 smaller parts for a word

Nile

@Cerberus Okay, thanks a lot.

Cerberus

That's part of art. It has always been.

Don't let the atrocious copyright lawyers destroy our culture or artistic inspiration!

WMD

10:58 PM

@prime Or more. Can you give an example of one that is causing you difficulty? Or are you just seeking a general algorithm?

@Cerberus Hah! Are you taking a dig at New Zealanders, Chileans, Bruneians and Singaporeans all in one hit?

prime

@WMD, I'm going to ask that question in english.stackexchange.com

Mahnax

@prime It will be closed.

Reference requests are off-topic.

prime

@Mahnax, Why will it be closed?

WMD

@WillHunting Stop thinking of sexual orientation as three boxes, into one of which all people are permanently assigned. Start thinking of it as a spectrum of possibilities that one can sail gaily from one end of to the other.

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