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@Kit @Rob Purple Empire have caught up. Still 17 mins left.

@KitFox I didn't before but I do now. Although, wouldn't the summer be the ideal time to finish and roll out improvements?

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@brilliant ice cream for you = i give you ice cream, you for ice cream = you like ice cream, I got some ice cream for you, Are you for ice cream?

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Theoretically, but grant funding usually ends in June. I have this feeling that if that don't get more monies, that's it for me.

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@MattЭллен I thought you were trying to be ironic. That is why this room is incomprehensible.

2:17 PM

@KitFox seems like an odd way of paying for things that are not teachers (i.e. just about anything else in a school that isn't tied to the students' presence).

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@brilliant But both slogans are trimmed to the point of awkward incomprehensibility.

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@KitFox Is that a bad thing or a good thing?

@WillHunting I am not sure.

JSBᾶngs

morning, people

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@KitFox Well, hang in there. There can be miracles when you believe.

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2:22 PM

@JSBᾶngs Boo!

JSBᾶngs

@KitFox i don't think you're going to be laid off in june

you're the most competent person at your office

@KitFox my advice is to update your resume and start looking for leads. The only miracles you can count on are the ones you make for yourself.

It wouldn't be the end of the world. I am hoping my husband is going to get a particular job, then I can quit anyway and stick with consulting and being mommy.

Gotta go.

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@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yes, that is the kind I am thinking of.

Sorry @Reg, I tried.

2:24 PM

Happens.

JSBᾶngs

my career goal for the next ~5 yrs is to quit and become a consultant/daddy/writer

so i think your plan sounds swell, @Kit

She'd be your competition.

@RegDwightѬſ道 Sorry, was commuting.

Anyway, speaking of mommy, I have to take the boys out to play. Later!

brilliant

@WillHunting WOW!!! I see now. Thank you.

2:26 PM

1 min ago, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

Happens.

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@brilliant Well, that's just my opinion, which is usually weird.

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@RegDwightѬſ道 Why is everyone saying sorry to reg?

Vitaly

@RegDwight Sorry, none of my decks work.

@WillHunting I am collecting sorries today. Today is the International Reg Dwight Collects Sorries Day.

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@RegDwightѬſ道 It is International Women's Day according to google home page.

2:29 PM

QED.

2 mins ago, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

1 min ago, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

Happens.

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@RegDwightѬſ道 Life is dukkha.

Q: First person plural in imperative

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Which of the following is more correct to use in a scientific paper? Consider the set A..., Recall that the set A..., Put the set A... or Let us consider the set A..., Let us recall that the set A..., Let us put the set A...

I've seen something like this before.

@Vitaly Welcome to the club. LtW has been particularly virulent against my decks lately.

@RegDwightѬſ道 Let us consider that you have.

@Robusto I liked his original wording. "I should write a scientific paper, but in english I am a goat." A great question for ELU Lite!

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@RegDwightѬſ道 It would make more sense to say "In England, I am a goat".

phrases meaning-in-context

2:33 PM

Okay, so what the hell:

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Q: Is "for what" a phrase?

I am not able to find the meaning of "for what" (for what is he..). To me it sounds like if something is worse than it appears. Can I say the following? I know for what the life is. Am I saying that I know life is not that easy? Can you give me more simple examples please?

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Q: Meaning of "know life for what it is"

What does know life for what it is mean? Maybe it means something like know what life is really like? Always to look life in the face and to know it for what it is.

meaning-in-context

Same user, same movie.

Same phrase.

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@RegDwightѬſ道 What movie?

I don't care.

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@RegDwightѬſ道 Well, I voted both as general reference.

brilliant

It's time to go to bed. Good night everyone!

CU.

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2:42 PM

@brilliant Good night! Let the pizza digest first.

@RegDwightѬſ道 Let us consider that you do care and are merely feeling hurt and vulnerable.

No I will not let you consider that.

No considering that in this chat.

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Today I learnt a new word "quitted".

@RegDwightѬſ道 You cannot stop me. I am still considering that. In this very chat.

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"Quitted" is a very interesting word, because it contains "qed".

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2:48 PM

@Robusto You are considering it in your mind which is outside this chat.

@WillHunting My mind has intruded into this chat. See? It did it again.

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@Robusto But then again, it is the chat that is in your mind.

@WillHunting "I know what it is you saw, for it is also in my mind."

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It seems more and more people are citing the OED. Either they subscribed or are in some library.

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Or they managed to get a pirated copy from somewhere.

2:54 PM

The OED is not the one-stop answer store some people seem to think it is. Like the Google NGram Viewer, it can be used poorly. But since it is the authority on some things, it lends itself to the argumentum ad verecundiam fallacy quite readily.

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Argument from authority

Argument from authority (also known as appeal to authority or argumentum ad verecundiam) is a special type of inductive argument which often takes the form of a statistical syllogism. Although certain classes of argument from authority do on occasion constitute strong inductive arguments, arguments from authority are commonly used in a fallacious manner. Forms The appeal to authority may take several forms. As a statistical syllogism, it will have the following basic structure: : Most of what authority a has to say on subject matter S is correct. : a says p about S. : Therefore, p is ...

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For completeness.

@WillHunting My statement was already complete. You have added supererogatory explanatory material — training wheels for the uneducated. My assumption is that all literate participants in this chat will require no such elaboration.

Hoo iz El Aboration?

Q: What is a good term for someone who refuses to debate an issue from first principles?

holy crap: man discovers child porn, reports it, has children taken away

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3:07 PM

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A neologism would be fine. I was thinking of “ruglifter”, as in someone who is wont to sweep dirt under the rug.

single-word-requests

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This question and its 8 answers are all at 0, amazing.

Mitch

@WillHunting not that it will change anything but I commented to the author that because of the multiple answers (with no upvotes), the question should be clarified.