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8:00 PM
What about poor, non-black gays?
 
@Robusto looks like it was Tolstoi
 
You say that now.
 
They are not from South America, where gay people originate, so they are less comfortable with gayness in their everyday lives.
 
@KitFox What does skin colour have to do with it? Besides, lots of people from S and A are not black. I don't know the percentage, but I would say 30 % non-black.
 
8:01 PM
Or what about the other suggestions I gave eariler?
 
What were those?
 
How about rug traders tend to be anti-gay?
 
@KitFox Wait: gay people originate from South America? Then all we have to do is stop importing them! Problem solved! You're welcome.
 
@Robusto ok. so I was wrong. It is Dostoyevsky. But, obviously, he didn't write war n peace.
 
Rug traders?
 
8:02 PM
What would really help is if you could define the demographics of the surveyed population a little cleaner.
 
Yes.
 
@MattЭллен I think the Russian translation is War 'n' Peace.
 
@Cerberus Gay children make it more difficult to arrange marriages.
 
8:02 PM
Gay children might not produce heirs.
 
Warren Peace is someone else.
 
A national institute for statistics/sociology.
 
@Cerberus Is that some kind of ethnic slur? Like "towel-head"?
 
Gay male children will probably grow up to wax their balls
 
@MattЭллен Warren Buffet is all-you-can-eat.
 
8:03 PM
@KitFox Yes, that is true.
 
@Cerberus That's a book.
 
@Robusto Haha, ask Kit.
 
@MattЭллен Not to mention each other's.
 
@MattЭллен But that's just like Muslims!
 
8:04 PM
@KitFox So? It is a study.
 
sighs
 
As far as surveys go, this one is respectable and scientific, I assure you.
 
See, this right here? This is the true spirit of Christmas: arguing interminably about gay Muslims.
 
YOU SAID "Turks and Moroccans." YOU DID NOT SAY "Muslims in the Netherlands."
 
lol
@KitFox but he did clarify that a while ago
 
8:04 PM
@KitFox Yes, but those stats I quoted are from this study.
 
@MattЭллен No, he said "Oh I thought it was obvious I was talking about the Netherlands when I said 'Turks and Moroccans.'"
 
I am quoting a (very respectable) newspaper that quoted from the study.
 
@Robusto Earl Warren is what you do when Warren squeaks.
 
@KitFox so, that means he was talking about the Netherlands, no?
 
Marc Warren is what you do when you want to find him later among all the other Warrens.
 
8:06 PM
@KitFox Please clarify.
 
Ty Warren is what you do when you don't have a marker.
 
So now it comes down to all my insistence on showing me data about Muslims if he's going to make claims about Muslims, and he says he hasn't got any, and then he gives me this entire fucking book about Muslims in the Netherlands.
Good day to you, sir.
 
@MετάEd Rabbit warren is what you do when you have nothing else in your life.
 
Everyone knows that Muslims in certain parts of Istanbul are fare more tolerant than the average Dutch Muslim.
@KitFox What? I do not understand this at all.
I quoted stats, and I gave you a link to the book where the stats are from.
What is the problem?
 
Warren Hull is a disemboweled Warren Furman. And when you do that you also get a Warren Spector.
 
My husband just sent me this story about how a woman apparently just went into the CareerCenter here (the Unemployment Office) and gave everyone who was looking for work on the computers there $50 gift cards, and then walked out.
 
These are the researchers of the study.
 
@KitFox and @Cerberus plainly need more ketchup in their diet.
 
@Cerberus No, I'm done talking about this study.
 
@KitFox Nice.
 
8:09 PM
Respectable scientists working at a respectable university, and the study was done for a respectable national institute.
 
@Cerberus Done. Talking.
 
Fine. Next time, think twice before accusing me of discrimination.
 
@KitFox I hope they used them to buy assault rifles.
 
@Robusto You'd need more than that to buy an assault rifle, but maybe you could put a down payment on one!
 
There are many Muslims I like, some I don't like. That's got nothing to do with this.
 
8:12 PM
Cerberus owns bushmaster you will get a good deal
 
Looks great, as far as assault rifles go.
 
AKs are cheap and reliable and you can beat the crap out of them.
 
Are you going to have an end-of-the-world sale?
 
hmmmm. but if I wanted a penis extension, I'd probably go for something more elegant.
 
Haha.
Is that what they are?
I suppose so.
 
8:14 PM
Something gilded with silver, perhaps?
With scrolls and fleurs de lys?
Lis or lys?
 
with a firm wooden body
 
Silver bullets are nice.
Hmm I don't know.
Perhaps lys is the older spelling?
 
definitely silver gilding.
 
A firm body, yes.
Wooden.
 
And some sort of buttressing.
 
8:16 PM
@JohanLarsson He sold it already.
 
The fleur-de-lis or fleur-de-lys (plural: fleurs-de-lis) is a stylized lily (in French, fleur means flower, and lis means lily) or iris that is used as a decorative design or symbol. It may be "at one and the same time, religious, political, dynastic, artistic, emblematic, and symbolic", especially in French heraldry. It is represented in Unicode at U+269C (⚜) in the Miscellaneous Symbols block. Usages While the fleur-de-lis has appeared on countless European coats of arms and flags over the centuries, it is particularly associated with the French monarchy in a historical context, an...
 
@Robusto that was fast, who bought it?
 
He didn't say.
 
@Robusto sry, old joke then I have not been following the chat closely
 
8:17 PM
@Robusto I was aiming at a snake, I swear!
Or an Apple.
Haha.
Yes.
 
@JohanLarsson You have to be way quicker in the wake of shooting tragedies if you want to keep up with The Incompreheisenberg Roomba.
 
@Robusto I can never compete, now star my quote about shopping, I was extremely pleased with it
 
Is the tale of William Tell well known in your countries?
 
@Cerberus If William Tell was Dutch he'd have had to do that under water.
 
8:20 PM
@Robusto Or he would soon have been under water, had he pierced a nearby dike.
 
@JohanLarsson Nuh-uh, you gotta put in your own work around here, dawg.
 
@Robusto but I put it in?
 
We will let you know. Did you fill in the form and mail me $150?
 
@Cerberus he shot at fruits for sport
sounds homophobic to me
 
I cut the red tape and went mano a mano
 
8:21 PM
@MattЭллен Haha.
Or.
Melophobic.
That is, Apple-fearing.
 
oh! interesting
 
Wait, melo- is not Greek.
 
@Cerberus What did you say, honey?
 
Oh, but it is: melo- is both Greek and Latin.
@Robusto Hmm yes, those roots look oddly similar.
I wonder why.
Mel, stem mell- in Latin.
 
because I went back in time and messed with some scriptures
 
8:24 PM
@MattЭллен That was you?
 
But I think apple is mal- in Latin.
 
@Robusto yeah. I added in the whole bit about noah
 
@MattЭллен You anachronist!
 
@Cerberus So if an Apple smells bad in Latin it is malodorous?
 
@Robusto Yes, but you have to choose: apple is a long ā, I think, and bad a short a.
 
8:25 PM
@MattЭллен I knew it. So many holes in the logic, such bad writing ...
 
No doubt some Roman poet made a pun about this.
 
@Robusto unmistakeable, I know :D
 
@Robusto Van Gogh? It's Dostoevsky.
 
Melon comes from Greek mêlopepôn, "apple-pumpkin" (through Latin melo, probably a kind of pumpkin).
 
I thought it meant "friend."
 
8:30 PM
@Mahnax Been there, done that. See above. Or below.
 
Melon?
 
@Robusto Yeah, I noticed, but I decided not to retract.
 
Yes?
Oh, sorry I thought you said Mellen
 
Melons can be a girl's best friends under certain circumstances...
Haha Mellen!
 
@MattЭллен You're in the Mellen camp?
 
8:31 PM
Mellens can also be a girl's best friend.
Or lover.
 
Ain't that America?
 
@Cerberus Also a man's: "A woman is fine, but a melon's divine." — Tuli Kupferberg
 
@Cerberus Wrong. Nice try, but wrong. Pumpkins are native to the New World, not the Old. The Romans had no pumpkins.
 
@Robusto Heh.
 
@Robusto As is my birth right, I suppose
 
8:32 PM
@tchrist WNT calls it "pompoen".
 
A pumpkin is a gourd-like squash of the genus Cucurbita and the family Cucurbitaceae (which also includes gourds). It commonly refers to cultivars of any one of the species Cucurbita pepo, Cucurbita mixta, Cucurbita maxima, and Cucurbita moschata, and is native to North America. They typically have a thick, orange or yellow shell, creased from the stem to the bottom, containing the seeds and pulp. Pumpkins are widely grown for commercial use, and are used both in food and recreation. Pumpkin pie, for instance, is a traditional part of Thanksgiving meals in the United States, and pumpki...
 
“There was once a big atomic bomb
That wanted to be a bullet.
His friends all asked why, when he was such a big atomic bomb, he would want to be a tiny bullet.
"I miss", he sighed, "the personal touch.”
― Tuli Kupferberg
 
I never know how pompoenen, pumpkins, kalebassen, quashes, gourds, etc. work.
I just picked the cognate for pompoen, which was pumpkin.
 
I thought the cognate would be pompom.
 
@Robusto Lovely.
@KitFox Maybe that's also related...
 
8:34 PM
> The word calabaza is derived from the Persian term for melon (kharbuz). The French term "calabasse", and hence "calabash", is based on the older Spanish.[1][2] In common use the French term "calabash" refers to a gourd native to the African continent, while "calabaza" refers to a gourd native to the Americas. In North America, the word "calabaza" refers to any of several species of tropical gourds of the genus Cucurbita.
 
@KitFox Which is related to bonbon, no doubt.
 
@tchrist Ahhhh so complicated!
 
Let @Rob teach you all about melons.
That’ll fix that problem.
 
So how should I have translated pompoen?
 
If you smash a bunch of melons together you get a melange.
 
8:35 PM
Or a squash.
 
Or a kumquat.
 
Or a pomegranate.
 
Kumquat is the most obscene-sounding fruit.
 
Kind of, yes.
 
No.
 
8:36 PM
But ananas is also quite obscene.
 
Yes.
 
It's huge and prickly.
 
Carambola is.
 
Carambola? Is that even a fruit?
 
Squash.
 
8:37 PM
I only know the billiard term.
 
It's not even a convincing forgery.
1 min ago, by Cerberus
Or a squash.
 
Carambola, also known as starfruit, is the fruit of Averrhoa carambola, a species of tree native to the Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. The fruit is popular throughout Southeast Asia, the South Pacific and parts of East Asia. The tree is also cultivated throughout non-indigenous tropical areas, such as in Latin America, the Caribbean, and the southern United States. The fruit has distinctive ridges running down its sides (usually five, but can sometimes vary); in cross-section, it resembles a star, hence its name. The entire fruit is edible and is usu...
 
@Robusto Yeah.
 
I am not afraid of your carambola.
 
I was voting.
 
8:37 PM
I don't even know what we call those.
 
> The genus was named after Abū 'l-Walīd Muḥammad bin Aḥmad bin Rushd (better known just as Ibn Rushd), who was called Averroes in European Literature - a famous Arabian physician,[8]astronomer and philosopher of the 12th century.[9]
 
They sell them at the market.
 
star fruit
 
You call them starfruit.
 
I doubt it.
Sterfruit, perhaps.
Doesn't ring a bell.
 
8:38 PM
true, you probably call them ananas
 
Yay!
 
But I call everything ananas.
 
De carambola (Averrhoa carambola) of stervrucht is een plant uit de klaverzuringfamilie (Oxalidaceae). Het is een verwant van de kleinere blimbing (Averrhoa bilimbi). Het is een tot 12 m hoge boom met korte stam en uitgespreide takken, die in droge tijden zijn blad kan verliezen. De tot 20 cm lange bladeren zijn afwisselend geplaatst en oneven geveerd. De zeven tot elf, tot 8 x 3,7 cm grote deelblaadjes zijn gaafrandig, ovaal, glanzend en glad aan de bovenzijde en aan de onderzijde dof. De rode tot violette bloemen staan in vertakte trossen met rode takken in de bladoksels. De vruchten z...
 
Ah, stervrucht.
What do you know.
 
8:39 PM
As I said.
 
I would have had no idea if someone said carambola in Dutch.
 
Perfect ruby starfruit.
 
Stervrucht, I would probably have guessed what he meant.
 
I have to go. Later.
 
Bai.
 
8:40 PM
@Cerberus ¡Caramba! Y bolas.
 
Caramba indeed!
 
CU @Kit
 
Bolas? Balls?
 
Huevos.
Sí.
 
it's a weapon, I believe
 
8:41 PM
That thing you swing.
 
Carom billiards, sometimes called carambole billiards or simply carambole (and in some cases used as a synonym for the game of straight rail from which many carom games derive), is the overarching title of a family of billiards games generally played on cloth-covered, 5 by 10 feet (approximately 1.5 × 3 m) pocketless tables, which often feature heated slate beds. In its simplest form, the object of the game is to score or "counts" by ' one's own off both the opponent's cue ball and the on a single shot. The invention as well as the exact date of origin of carom billiards is s...
 
This is what I know.
And a carambole is I believe hitting two balls in one shot.
 
Bolas (from Spanish bola, "ball", also known as boleadoras, or Inca ayllo) are a throwing weapon superficially similar to the surujin, made of weights on the ends of interconnected cords, designed to capture animals by entangling their legs. They are most famously used by the South American gauchos, but have been found in excavations of Pre-Columbian settlements, especially in Patagonia, where indigenous peoples used them to catch 200 pound guanaco (llama-like mammals) and ñandú (birds). They have also been found, as a Stone Age lithic tool, in North America at the Calico Early Man Sit...
 
In standard billiard.
@MattЭллен Hawt.
 
8:42 PM
A bolo tie (sometimes bola tie or shoestring necktie) is a type of necktie consisting of a piece of cord or braided leather with decorative metal tips – aglets (aiguillettes) – secured with an ornamental clasp or slide. Bolos are easy to make, using attractive flat objects such as lady's pins, coins, plastic netsuke reproductions, polished stones, Christmas tree ornaments, refrigerator magnets, etc. Cords of leather and cordage stock, clips and tips, called "findings" are widely available from jewelry supply firms. Popularity In the United States, bolo ties are widely associa...
 
also, as I'm sure @JSBձոգչ will appreciate, the surname of a dragon
 
Bolae or Bola was an ancient city of Latium that was repeatedly mentioned in the early history of Rome. Foundation Its foundation is expressly ascribed by Virgil to the kings of Alba Longa, and its name is found also in the list given by Diodorus Siculus of the colonies of that city. Hence, there is no doubt that it was properly a Latin city, though its name does not appear among the list of those that composed the Latin League. But it fell at an early period into the hands of the Aequians. Dionysius of Halicarnassus describes it as one of the towns taken by Coriolanus, together with T...
 
What say you, Tchrist ^?
 
8:43 PM
Sorry, no pumpkins in Rome.
Nice try.
Try again.
 
I looked it up, and this is what my dictionary says.
 
Get a better dictionary.
Preferably one in English.
 
There is no better N-E dictionary, I think.
 
A pumpkin is a gourd-like squash of the genus Cucurbita and the family Cucurbitaceae (which also includes gourds). It commonly refers to cultivars of any one of the species Cucurbita pepo, Cucurbita mixta, Cucurbita maxima, and Cucurbita moschata, and is native to North America. They typically have a thick, orange or yellow shell, creased from the stem to the bottom, containing the seeds and pulp. Pumpkins are widely grown for commercial use, and are used both in food and recreation. Pumpkin pie, for instance, is a traditional part of Thanksgiving meals in the United States, and pumpki...
Read: and is native to North America. Q.E.FMH.D.
 
> Since some squash share the same botanical classifications as pumpkins, the names are frequently used interchangeably.
 
8:47 PM
Pumpkin pie is a traditional sweet dessert, often eaten during the fall and early winter, especially for Thanksgiving and Christmas in the United States and Canada. The pumpkin is a symbol of harvest time and featured also at Halloween. The pie consists of a pumpkin-based custard, ranging in color from orange to brown, baked in a single pie shell, rarely with a top crust. The pie is generally flavored with nutmeg, cinnamon, cloves, and ginger. This pie is often made from canned pumpkin or packaged pumpkin pie filling (spices included). Preparation The traditional method for preparing...
@Cerberus Not in English.
 
That's English Wiki...
How am I to translate pompoen, then?
 
They’re our pumpkins. We get to say what to call them. We can’t help it if you Germishers have the wrong words.
Squash. Gourd.
Not pumpkin.
 
I don't know.
 
I do.
 
@Cerberus A pompoen sounds like a very pompous pumpkin.
 
8:48 PM
A modern jack-o'-lantern is a carved pumpkin, although originally large turnips were carved. It is associated chiefly with the holiday of Samhain and Halloween and was named after the phenomenon of strange light flickering over peat bogs, called ignis fatuus or jack-o'-lantern. In a jack-o'-lantern, the top is cut off, and the inside flesh then scooped out; an image, usually a monstrous face, is carved out, and the lid replaced. It is typically seen during Halloween. Origin Pumpkin carving is thought to come from Ireland, where turnips, mangelwurzel or beets were used. Turnip lanter...
 
@Robusto Oh, absolutely.
 
Maybe you meant a turnip. That must be it.
 
Haha.
 
Or a beet.
 
A turnip is a raap.
A beet is a biet.
 
8:49 PM
See, you still don’t know what a pumpkin is!
 
No?
 
Time to bring the trick-or-treaters to Cerb’s place.
And bomb him with pumpkins.
 
We get those on Saint Martin's Day, at least in the south.
No pompoenen, though.
 
Grapefruits.
 
No fruits.
 
8:52 PM
Pumpkin pie is a custard. That makes it a pampas moose. So grapefruit.
Um, all gourds and squash are fruits, silly.
Check out their seeds.
 
@Cerberus Du bist angebieten?
 
Angebissen?
Oder anbeten?
 
@tchrist Wait. I thought a pampas moose and a pampelmousse were related.
 
We only have pompelmoes / pompelmoen.
 
Pineapple-Grapefruits.
 
8:53 PM
@Cerberus FTFM. Joke on biet.
 
I know, I know.
Lime = limoen.
Lemon = citroen.
 
Stop Frenching.
They are dumb.
 
What's with the -on/-oen?
 
You can be better.
 
We are in between France, Germany, and England.
We take what we want.
 
8:55 PM
Pirates!
 
Yes!
Piet Heyn...
 
@Cerberus Yeah, all their cars are lemons.
 
nods
Hence the trema.
 
And the crema, too.
 
Hmm lemon and cream...
Add a little bit of sugar...
Look what you did!
Now I'm going to make lemon mousse again tonight.
 
9:00 PM
woohoo!
books tickets to Amsterdam
 
Yay!
I'll leave some in the fridge.
Oh, unless you have a problem with chocolate-chip-cookie crumbs sprinkled on top...
I always do that.
A great combo with lemon mousse.
 
that sounds even better :D
 
Good.
 
Shit. I just found out the gift basket I ordered for my brother I accidentally had shipped to my house.
 
Oops.
So it will arrive one or two days late if you reship it immediately?
Christmas?
 
9:07 PM
It won't get there till the end of next week. I had them ship another.
Stupid web forms with the "shipping address same as billing address" button that I'm so used to clicking. I filled in his information, because I remember doing that, but then I must've clicked that fatal button.
 
Fatal indeed.
The shock of not receiving his foie gras on time will be devastating.
 
He'll manage.
 
Or what is in it?
 
The best gift will be me telling him what happened and him laughing at me for being an idiot. So it all works out.
 
Gold medal:
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Q: Off by twelve error? — "And I Feel Fine" hat

OdedI just got the And I Feel Fine hat which states "post or vote on December 21". Does SE have a time machine now?

 
9:09 PM
Ah, fraternal love.
Quid dulcius?
 
@Cerberus If your lemon moos, put it out to pasture where it belongs.
 
And start an orchard?
God, what I wouldn't give for a lemon orchard.
Lemon is perhaps my favourite cooking ingredient of all.
Next come...garlic? Tomato? Bacon?
 
@Cerberus What, all the carburetors and transaxles and such in it?
@Cerberus The gift basket was bacon, btw.
 
@Robusto Sure. What else could deliver the stuff I want to use faster?
@Robusto Ohh a bacon basket, very nice.
 
@Cerberus Yum. New kind of Eggs Benedict?
 
9:14 PM
@Robusto Oh wow.
@Robusto Let's hope so.
 
@Cerberus Move to southern California (alta, not baja).
 
Too hot.
 
So that's what baja means. Funny I never put that together.
 
I want a shady Burgundian orchard.
High and low?
I thought it meant bay, stupid me...
Or does bay come from bas?
Hmm no.
Bay is possibly related to Baiae, the Roman beach resort.
But basically unknown.
Is bas related to basis?
Basis comes from stem ba-, "go, walk".
 
@Cerberus You're a bas-tard.
 
9:18 PM
Pah.
Proof.
 
@Robusto Really? California Alta is what we call California. It’s Upper California. California Baja is Lower California.
And Oregon is California Soprana.
 
@tchrist I just said I figured it out.
 
I don’t like your tenor.
 
That's because you're so bass.
You are now connected to Amazon from Amazon.com.
Me:I am getting charged now for an MP3 album I bought in Feb.
Amazon:Hello, my name is Aditya. I'll be glad to help you today.
Me:Hello.
What's with this order? ----------------
Amazon:A member of our MP3 Specialist team will need to help you with this. Please hold while I transfer you. One of our Amazon MP3 Specialists will assist you shortly.
A Customer Service Associate will be with you in a moment.
You are now connected to vidhya from Amazon.com.
I guess they're showing off that they have a billion people working for Amazon.
 
@Robusto What? You don't work for Amazon?
 
9:31 PM
@Robusto Haha wtf.
All in India?
 
(ELEVATE) (EXTERMINATE) (AND OTHER THINGS ENDING IN ATE)
 
Thank God nobody speaks Dutch.
 
@Cerberus Of course.
And I thought things were going so well with Vidhya. Then they switch me to that Jawahar dude.
 
@Cerberus How about a large Wagnerian mother?
 
No worries, he will put you through to someone else, and eventually there will be some person called Vidhya again.
If have no idea which one of those names are female anyway, but whatever.
@MετάEd Uhh what?
 
9:42 PM
@Cerberus Are you familiar with the game Madlibs? Or Exquisite Corpse?
 
@MετάEd Brünhilde?
 
@Robusto You're getting it.
Data Conversion in Progress - Do Not Interrupt! [Back] [Next] [Cancel]
 
@MετάEd Uh no?
 
@Cerberus You are missing all the fun.
 
Sure hope Martha is pleased with the garbage questions we’re getting.
 
9:47 PM
It's the thought that counts.
 
I detect no thought.
 
OK, it's the no thought that counts.
 
Apparently.
 
Oh, dear.
 
I'm considering a change from Dalek to Cyberman. But I will only be happy if assimilation occurs: everyone else starts to change too.
 
9:52 PM
What is this off topic thing, Mr Scrooge!?
Let a thousand Titan Arum flowers bloom stink, and all that.
This chap has just edited his closed question:
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Q: What's the meaning of "dummy up"?

TheoWhat does "dummy up" mean here? The cops wouldn't tell me who the owner was, but we're a military town, so I took a chance. Called my insurance (USAA) and as luck would have it, that was the other guy's insurance too!...Got my mechanic to dummy up a $50 statement, just to submit it to USAA an...

I feel a meta post coming on begging its reopening.
 
In keeping with the holiday spirit, I answered the "however vs. while" question. With no snarking. Beat that, if you can.
 
Well, I could vote reopen to Norty. That would beat it.
 
@Robusto the best I've got is editing a gen ref question to be less gen ref
 
@Robusto Well done.
The original sentence was barely comprehensible.
 
@MattЭллен You're bringing a knife to a gun fight again? sighs
 
9:57 PM
@Robusto I'm a better aim with a knife. So long as I don't have to throw it.
 
What is the only animal whose common English name is identical to its “Latin” name (taxonomic binomial)?
 
Gallus gallus.
Gorilla gorilla.
Bison bison.
 
Indeed, I routinely chat with my buds about such Galli.
Nope.
All those are wrong.
Because we only use one of them.
Not both.
 
Boa constrictor?
 
9:59 PM
fish
 
Damn you are quick.
That is correct.
A robin is one word, and not Latin.
 

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