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4:00 PM
Andrew is still on it.
Asking me questions we should be asking him.
@Andrew: "What percentage of questions on other SEs are closed by the five most active closers?" is the question I am asking you. Since it is you who are so eager to compare us to other sites. Do keep in mind that there are only about 150 people on this site who have the right to vote to close at all, and not all of them have visited in the last two days — and 5 stops looking like a tiny number, let alone 34. Also, never forget that all these people also can vote to reopen. If even just one person closes everything singlehandedly, and 149 do not vote to reopen, that's saying something. — RegDwighт 1 min ago
 
(Not me. I disclaim. Even though the previous post has a blue highlight just for me.)
 
Well you can take over his account. shrug
 
People don't seem to realise that the way to change things they don't like is to gain the privilege which allows them to.
 
But they've been told just that. Just the other day. By yourself.
@AndrewLazarus It's a community. Gain enough rep within the community and you can vote to re-open closed questions (and the closers cannot re-vote to close). — Andrew Leach 6 hours ago
 
Next time you beseech me, please let it not be in someone's bowels, okay? — Robusto 11 secs ago
 
4:10 PM
@RegDwighт Yes. I know that. And you know that. But they aren't reading stuff.
 
@Robusto I don't get it. I have spent all my English for the day. Speak German.
I only know one meaning of beseech.
 
@RegDwighт I don't know the German for beseech.
 
Uh.
Anflehen?
Just flehen?
 
OK.
 
Check the libretto of Elijah: it comes in both English and German.
 
4:11 PM
Gut genug.
 
LEO.org also has ersuchen and flehentlich bitten.
Though ersuchen is too neutral for me.
Basically a fancier word for ask or request.
 
Whoa, how did this all suddenly get to be about me not knowing German translations of archaic English verbs? Geezis.
 
Google Translate has ermahnen
 
This was an ambush, pure and simple.
And I don't know the German for ambush, either.
 
@Robusto it was a trick!!!! Ashton Kutcher is coming out from behind the bushes in your backyard right now as we speak!
 
4:13 PM
@RegDwighт I think he is gona play Steve Jobs in his upcoming movie.
 
@AndrewLeach now that one doesn't make any sense. That's reprimand.
 
Would that be Demi Moore's bush he's coming out from behind?
 
Hm, should be related to suchen.
 
Are them still a couple?
 
I am not sure why they chose him, but he seems to be a good candidate for the role.
 
4:15 PM
@RegDwighт Interesting. "Ich ermahne euch dass sie das mich fragen." > "I urge you to ask me that."
 
@RegDwighт But surely that is just what beseech is: a fancier word for ask or request. Why not ersuchen? Too mindlessly cognate to fit, or with some other connotation?
 
Hm.
Right.
You have a point.
Etymologically.
 
May be fallacious.
 
Versuchen Sie zu ersuchen?
 
It is interesting that northern seek and southern beseech went their separate ways in English.
 
4:17 PM
@AndrewLeach almost. The first pronoun (you, second person plural) and the second (you, second person singular, as opposed to thou) do not match. And mich and das are flipped around.
 
Probably because seek was so much more common a word.
But their pasts reconnect with sought and besought.
 
And again, ermahnen there does not mean "beg, plead". It means "urge".
 
Jez
@MattЭллен Is this NSFW?
 
That sentence is something a judge would say to a witness.
 
@RegDwighт My German is very rusty.
 
4:18 PM
Oh I thought that was Google's German.
I see.
 
Whereas here for the old beseech we clearly need crusty German, not rusty.
 
Do we get hats for meta stuff? I don't think so. And I am all tied up on meta. Have been for days.
 
Not available in my country.
 
4:22 PM
Same difference.
Oh, the last one wurks.
 
The last one is the worst, alas.
Well, penult.
 
Yay. I have a stetson.
 
The final one might work.
 
Yes, the last two play. Yet.
 
Father, hear thy children's call
Humbly at thy feet we fall
Prodigals confessing all
We beseech thee, hear us!

We thy call have disobeyed
Into paths of sin have strayed
And repentence have delayed
We beseech thee, hear us!
Notice how beseech pairs with thee. :)
 
4:28 PM
@Robusto oh I got it! I got it! I am so good! Hold the presses! Hold them high up in the sky! I got a joke by Robusto!
 
There's a first time for everything.
 
You are my first, my last, my everything.
 
I am your special angel?
 
No, you're my Barrie White song in F.
 
4:30 PM
Gah, Barry.
It took me months to get used to Barrie.
And now I have to go back.
 
Hey, WTF? These hats blow off in a strong wind.
 
@Robusto oh, Barry Vuitton. He makes nice purses.
@Robusto it is but a dream.
The first, the last, the everything dream of the year.
 
@RegDwighт A dream within a dream, shadow of a shape.
 
good morneng everyone
are you enjoyeng your hats?
 
4:33 PM
See a-buv.
 
e am
 
the I key es broken on thes keyboard
et can only be pressed weth extreme force
so e'm mostly substetuteng "e"s
 
Use a hammer. Or a Hummer.
 
@JSBձոգչ you're jokeng
 
I notice you spell @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 just fine. Harrumph.
 
4:36 PM
autocomplete. duh
 
@Robusto wha? who?
 
Where's your LEGO hat?
 
@RegDwighт My avatar has been wearing a lego hat since day 1
 
Right. Just testing your attention span.
 
How does one select/elect a hat?
 
4:39 PM
You go to winter bash.
Right next to notifications.
 
hmmm. applyeng my hat to Magus just covers over hes whole head
not optemal
 
@tchrist Click the star/snowflake in your profile and choose.
 
@RegDwighт Damn you for typing faster than me!
@AndrewLeach Ta.
 
Logged out and logged in. Still hatless.
I have the most hats and yet I have none.
That's like that stupid joke about the elephant.
Mar 9 at 20:08, by KitFox
If no elephants have two tails, and one elephant has one more tail than no elephants, then an elephant has three tails.
 
Donèd.
 
4:43 PM
Oh sorry, that was Kit. I meant sophisticated joke, of course.
 
raises eyebrow
 
Is the database unfucked yet?
 
@RegDwighт You mean in chat? No one has hats in here, do they?
@RegDwighт No. I dropped back and punted, remember?
 
@KitFox I mean everywhere. Main site, and the Winter Bash site.
 
I made it so it wouldn't barf, now I'm writing the real plan.
@RegDwighт Did you pick a hat to wear?
 
4:46 PM
Wha.
How is I does?
 
@RegDwight: The top individual votes to close approximately ten percent of all questions asked, not counting any that yet remain open for want of allies. I haven't found any other site with anything resembling this behavior (Physics is closest, still only ~1/4 as much). There might be more high-reputation users here if there were more interest in the questions—less in closing them. In fact, I've been interested in answering 3 closed questions with a significant debate over re-opening. Think I'm going to hang around long enough to accumulate 3K rep? (I realize that may be a feature not a bug.) — Andrew Lazarus 35 mins ago
Sure hope not. :)
 
@RegDwighт Go to your profile and click on your hats.
 
I have done that like fifteen times today.
 
@RegDwighт sixteenth time's the charm
 
Oh, I have to click on the damn hats.
 
4:49 PM
@tchrist Did you see?
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A: Words with a leading silent w

John LawlerStoneyB, Lass, and Wright have outlined the recent history of initial WR simplification. The ancient history of how they got that way is interesting, too. I checked the American Heritage Dictionary of Indo-European Roots and found, to my surprise, that all the words beginning with WR in the Ame...

 
Well they all look stupid. Except the bow which I can use as a fig leaf.
@Andrew: the only questions I could answer on Physics are all closed. All of them. If you have a point, it cuts both ways. — RegDwighт 28 secs ago
 
And we all know the reason is that everyone who speaks, is learning, or has heard of English thinks they can ask a question about English, while the same is not true about Physics or Math or computer stuffs.
 
@RegDwighт I do like a good mixed metaphor.
 
@KitFox which is kind of my point.
 
Kind of. And we've covered it all before.
So his question really ought to be closed as a dupe.
 
4:56 PM
I could go to Physics and ask them, "What is the distance from Earth to the Moon". Or "How do you say fuck off in Klingon".
 
Except I like your new answer on this one.
I liked the old answers too.
Going to brave the snow for lunch. bbl
 
@RegDwighт When have you ever known an database to be unfucked?
 
@Robusto it was a gloomy Thursday in July.
 
@RegDwighт I like the Klingon angle: it's stupid and pointless, yet wonderfully condescending.
 
Thank you. I learned it from a Klingon.
 
4:59 PM
But it is well known that Klingons have no sense of humor.
A better question for Physics.SE would be: "How do you get Klingons off Uranus? I need to see the math."
 
Haha, asking for math on Physics. Easy, boy. You're supposed to mock them, not kill them.
 
Well, it was my first try. I'm just warming up.
Hey, I just realized ... my jester hat is actually a rep cap cap! How deliciously meta!
 
Hi
Greetings of the day to all of you
 
Same of same right back at you.
 
I have some questions today
 
5:05 PM
Very good, you can earn a hat.
 
Someone just tried to edit my title on this question from over a year ago:
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Q: Help! Google is downloading books to me without my permission or involvement

RobustoI noticed I had updates the other day, and was surprised to see that my phone (Droid X, Gingerbread) was downloading Alice in Wonderland. I did not ask for this book, and I don't want it on my phone taking up disk space. When I checked, I saw it had also downloaded Dickens' Great Expectations and...

Hat search, no doubt.
 
damn those hats. ruining our sites, they are
 
Luckily we have long ruined the site to a point where it cannot be ruined more.
 
good job finding the upside
 
@RegDwighт Our correspondent is participating in an effort to improve things.
 
5:16 PM
He's got a hat, too. For ten upvotes.
I didn't realize there were hats that easy to get. BRB
 
What is the usage differences of perky vs bubbly vs buoyant vs chirpy
 
@RegDwighт What, you really think it cannot be ruined more?
 
woah, there are NO questions in the close queue?
has the brouhaha made people gun-shy?
 
@RegDwighт It's an ad slogan in the making: "Earning hats on StackOverflow sites is so easy ... even Andrew Lazarus can do it!"
 
@JSBձոգչ no, the hats made them review everything on the spot.
 
5:18 PM
3 hours ago, by Robusto
Who cares how many hats you get. Getting the best hat, that's what counts. Also, getting your picture on paper money.
 
@JSBձոգչ also, I am warming up to participate in Martha's challenge.
 
Still working on the paper money thing.
 
Wait, scratch that. Even if I do vote to close, that doesn't show up in the Review Queue.
That's like a Chuck Norris joke or something.
 
Hey, if I vote to leave open, does that cancel the close votes?
 
Yes, it's like the prisoner's dilemma, or Zeno's Paradox or something: if you're the first to vote to close, you don't get review credit.
 
5:19 PM
@KitFox nah.
 
@Robusto Just take turns, like the chinese chopsticks puzzle.
@RegDwighт Sweet. clicks leave open a billion times
 
0
A: Why does gasoline have the word "gas" in it, if it's never gaseous?

trisusing logic of its basic physics; "gasoline" the liquid which is also a gas,, therefore "gasoline" can be derived directly as 1. "gas or liquid" ,, "line" short for liquid with "ine" suffix, or 2. "gas" "ol" "ine" with the "ol" from oil derived substance and "ine" used in some liquids ;-) -ine...

Okay, what the hell is an ",,".
 
If you do ever click "Leave Open" you run the risk of getting bushwhacked by @tchrist, though.
 
Down at the copa, copacabana
 
@RegDwighт you err. if a question gets enough "leave open" votes, then it's taken out of the reviewe queue
 
5:20 PM
@JSBձոգչ yes. Which was not Kit's question.
 
however, the existing close votes still remain
for a while. eventually they evaporate
 
Hi
 
If it gets 5+ reopen votes, the aging sets in regardless of the number of views.
 
@RegDwighт Yeah, he should have put null in between the commas, to signify that it is a null argument. Like the rest of his argument.
 
Can I discuss here with you?
 
5:23 PM
@RegDwighт Editing to make sense out of that answer is, in my opinion, bending over backwards to appease Martha.
 
@Robusto It's haberdashery.
 
longs for a hat
 
I think people should at least have the ability to communicate somewhat in English in order to post to this site.
 
@Robusto nah, I only edited it for formatting. It still does not make sense. And I always do that. Nothing with Martha.
 
@KitFox Habermasian haberdashery. Has a certain symmetry to it.
 
5:25 PM
Also, it is only now that I have edited it for formatting that I see that it has to be deleted because it quotes something without attribution.
And the rest says something that's been in the accepted answer forever.
And who knows how many secret hats I will unlock for protecting the question.
 
Oh! I should protect a question!
sulks for feeling like that would be unethical
 
@KitFox kitty see, kitty do.
And I gotta commute.
 
@RegDwighт I review every day. Bah. Humbug.
 
> Sometimes the shit comes down so heavy I feel like I should wear a hat. — Ned (William Hurt), Body Heat
 
@MετάEd I know. But today the queue is empty for others.
I know mine is never empty.
But today it is.
 
5:30 PM
@RegDwighт I'm not a cat!
OK, now I am.
 
More power to you.
Pouffff.
 
4 out of 5 of the top SO hatters have the jester's cap.
 
grumbles
 
4
A: Is there a single noun in English for "jerry-rigged"?

RobustoThe noun I hear most often to describe cheap junk that is poorly made is crap: crap n 4. Cheap or shoddy material. as in That web site he made for me is pure crap. Nothing in it works right, and it's way too slow.

Someone downvoted my crap. Stupid peoples.
 
Oh! I'll downvote it too.
Oh. It's not actual crap.
 
5:41 PM
@KitFox, can I ask you a question?
 
Hi @Hanu. What's up?
 
What are the usage differences of perky vs bubbly vs buoyant vs chirpy?
 
"Chirpy" is a word I don't think I have ever heard before.
 
@Hanu In slang terminology, chirpy means overconfident or boastful.
 
Bubbly has bubbles in it. Buoyant is something that floats. Perky is um...something that sort of sticks up.
In terms of affect, I'd say "buoyant" is someone who is very happy, "bubbly" is excited and chattery.
"Perky" is cheerful. Or having nice breasts.
 
5:45 PM
Perky is alert and voluble.
 
Alert. Yes. Good description.
 
BTW, the reason we don't have The Hat in the Chat is because it's overlaid on our gravatars via HTML/CSS, not flattened graphically into them.
 
Ah. I see.
So that means I was kind of right?
 
@Robusto don't they have html/css in chat?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It would be too hard to do, I guess. What with everything moving.
Go to your profile page and make your browser wider or narrower: watch what happens to your hat.
1 hour ago, by Robusto
Hey, WTF? These hats blow off in a strong wind.
1 hour ago, by Robusto
user image
 
5:50 PM
That seems...odd.
Like they are using absolute positioning or something.
 
Hmm, but they stay on the small icons.
 
meh. it's probably a workaround for crappy html capabilites
 
Yeah. Not like I know anything about how that stuff works.
It's all magic to me.
 
Maybe they couldn't take the trouble to do them all in chat.
@KitFox That's why UI engineers are in such high demand. ^_^
 
Crud. My new tester (I have a tester!) just sent me scads of notes on the pages to be released. She's been very thorough and efficient.
 
5:52 PM
@KitFox why crud? that's awesome
it means you can fix it before the users and your lead get on your case
having a tester should make your job much easier
 
Except I'm supposed to implement it Friday.
I'm really excited that I have someone to test my stuff though.
 
6:05 PM
Just got three new hats. Am still hattissimo.
 
I got a new head.
 
OK.
Perky means happy and make others to happy
 
Anybody know how to get webdav to give me write permissions to the /etc directory on Windows using localhost?
 
Perky = cheerful
Bubbly = overwhelmed excitement
 
Perky can mean many things.
 
6:09 PM
Chirpy is negative or what?
 
See above.
All these words have multiple meanings. They depend on context a lot, as do most words.
 
Is there a hat for deletion?
I just serial delete-voted norty again. :)
Norty has a hat.
Odd.
 
Eeek! Daleks!
2
 
"post or vote on December 16"
 
I know, I know.
You don’t get hats while suspended.
 
6:17 PM
@Robusto No sorry.
 
Surely I did that. Why don't I have that hat?
 
But they don’t rescind them from merges.
 
@Robusto that's pretty odd. Still, they could probably at least put the hats on the chat-room membership list or something. Chat is the only place I want the hat.
 
-2
Q: He reports that

Nortonn SFor the verb 'claim', the present tense could be used instead of the past tense, if the information revealed by the act of claiming is current. So the following: He claims that there was an accident. would mean that the fact of there having been an accident is current information. ...

 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 They knew that about you. That's why it's .
 
6:18 PM
Notice that I warned this was an NS sockpuppet AN HOUR before Barrie posted his answer.
 
7 hours ago was not the 16th.
Oh, he has others. Nebbermind.
 
@tchrist I moved on. I'm complaining about Barrie now.
 
@Jez it should be fine for work. there's no nudity
 
@MattЭллен ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
(EXTERMINATE)
 
@MετάEd Remember, getting answered by Barrie is one of the NS likelihood markers.
And @Rob.
 
6:22 PM
@tchrist yes.
 
@tchrist How unkind, lumping me in with Barrie.
 
@Robusto in the blog chat room there is a link in the description. click the link. once you're there, go back to the chat room and ask waiwai to give you permission to post.
 
@Robusto Not many 50k members. You don’t get that way by not answering questions.
 
@tchrist But I am far more discriminating.
 
"I'm sorry I didn't have time to fix the production site because I was bust chasing hats."
You guys are really going to let this stand?
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Q: The verb before “research”

StefanieLiterature review is a big part of my life. I usually use “XXX conducted a research using data from” to state a previous study. Do you have recommendations of other verbs to use? I am tired of keeping using conduct (and I am not sure whether it is correct) and really want to diversify.

"What are some ways to say 'conducted a research' because I'm tired of using that phrase?"
Seems pretty non-constructive to me.
 
6:28 PM
@KitFox We don’t close things anymore, remember? Martha asked nicely.
 
Then delete:
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Q: Why is English murdered by Americans?

James EmersonOn looking up the "X" query, particularly in respect of American pronunciation, I am afraid I only find myself more and more infuriated at the American misuse, destruction and misspelling of The Queens' English. Exaggerate is pronounced " eX(ks)aggerate " NEVER eggsaggerate. Colour is ...

 
@KitFox Delete vote cast.
 
Thank you.
Sweet. It got flagged anyway.
 
Same.
 
Thank you.
 
6:31 PM
10 hats.
 
Paper hats are still hats, I guess.
 
Applies to tigers as well.
 
I wish I could wear both the fez and the necktie.
 
@MετάEd Whoa, ease up. You're going to be haberdashed against the rocks.
 
And I need a scarf. Obviously.
 
6:34 PM
++hats
And a cane.
And a sword, and a rose, and a cape.
 
@MετάEd But...you're a Dalek. You ought to not try to look like The Doctor.
 
@MετάEd I can have a mustache and a pipe, plus my jester's hat.
 
@KitFox I am trying to look like I ate The Doctor.
 
@JoshCaswell: Uhhh... No. The bowtie, colorful spinner hat, and cupcake are secret hats. Unless you've earned them, there is no way to find them on the winterba.sh main page. Look for the cupcake outline on your page, it's not there. — Manishearth 15 hours ago
 
@MετάEd: I don't think Stefanie is a furriner. Just a feeling. But admit that yours is a presumption as well.
 
6:40 PM
Those were like my first hats.
 
@Robusto How do you do that?
@Robusto I, uh, did.
 
@MετάEd By, uh, using can to mean could ...
 
@MετάEd Oh. I see.
 
BTW, welcome to the jester club, @tchrist. Laphraoig still your drink? I'll have the butler bring round some cigars directly.
 
It is one of the better hats.
I have ten others.
 
6:43 PM
I know. I fear your hats.
 
I should rather like Moshi-Moshi.
And don’t you dare say a word.
 
@Robusto Bunnahabhain.
 
@tchrist You like to talk on the phone in Japanese?
 
That’s not the word / I wanted not to’ve heard.
 
But you said Moshi-Moshi.
 
6:45 PM
sorry I missed what you said @Robusto.
I'm cookerising some foodles
 
Not a problem. I asked you a question and deleted it because I already found the answer by myself.
 
I'm a big boy now.
 
Hey @Matt, I asked an interesting question today!
looklooklooklook
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Q: Words with a leading silent w

KitFoxMy eldest is a beginning reader. Yesterday we read one of my favorite books, The Wreck of the Zephyr. He pointed at wreck and asked me why that one looked like it said "wuh-reck." I explained that spelling is funny like that sometimes. This didn't satisfy my curiosity though. Silent w is not unc...

Turns out to be pretty interesting.
 
Forget hats, we should all have leitmotifs. Like when you see our gravatar, you hear a musical phrase of some kind indicative of a mood or personality.
 
6:47 PM
Auras?
Oh. Music.
starts humming Vader's theme
 
@KitFox yes!
 
Isn't it just because WR is so hard to say if you pronounce both letters?
 
Is it?
Why is it there then?
 
@DavidWallace You don’t round your r?
Meaning, stick your lips out all kissy-faced?
Wrrrrreally?
whooshes her well
What is this, Heisenchat?
 
I don't know. Something funny is going on.
 
6:57 PM
Bother. I return to my computer and see two "removed" comments, with no idea what they were.
Umm, presumably when words like "wreck" were first written, the W was pronounced. Maybe even like a V, as in German.
VR is much easier to say than WR.
And no, I do not round my R. All my Rs are roughly the same.
 
shh
 
What few you have.
All my r's are the same, too. And all are rounded.
One puckers.
 
I don't move my lips when I say R.
 
It is a known North American allophone.
I can’t quite wrestle my mouth around that one.
 
Oh, excuse me, that'll be the allophone.
 
6:59 PM
@DavidWallace Actually, seems to be not. More like ooreck. According to the answers given anyway.
 

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