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4:01 PM
@Chris'ssis How is $\log\left(1+1-e^{1/k}\right)\approx1-e^{1/k}$
 
@Darksonn replace $1-e^{1/k}$ by $x$ and see what happens when $x$ tends to $0$.
$$\lim_{x\to 0} \frac{\log(1+x)}{x}=1$$
 
@Chris'ssis Thanks
 
@TheGame Oh my goodness, I love that essay. :)
(I just popped in, and am popping out, but couldn't resist drawing more attention to that essay.)
 
@TheGame Oh this one.
It is great but overdoes it a bit.
@BalarkaS A whole table? Ouch!
 
@TheGame Thanks.
bbl
 
cries
 
Hi @Chris'ssis does L Hopital rule only work for indeterminate forms?
 
4:25 PM
@JohnJack In its simplest form, it is only used to try to solve $\frac{0}{0}$
 
Oh okay @TheGame so can't be applied to and fraction of differentiable functions.
 
'can't be applied to and fraction of differentiable functions' Isn't a word missing ?
 
Huy
4:53 PM
Hi, @JohnJack. Sorry, I went offline shortly after you greeted me.
 
@Huy No prob
 
5:09 PM
Yay I solved my problem.
Turns out I can use Catalans conjecture for it
God chat is dead.
@Chris'ssis poke
 
5:34 PM
@JohnJack Read an analysis textbook to find out the answer/
 
@Alizter Alive!
 
@JohnJack Yes, because I looked at the list of questions you ask on the main site.
 
@JohnJack The purpose of the rule is to turn an indeterminate form to a determinate form. The problematic cases are the indeterminate ones.
@Alizter Hey
 
@Chris'ssis I need some help generalizing some sums
 
@Alizter What sums?
 
5:46 PM
@Chris'ssis $\displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^\infty\prod_{k=n}^m\frac1k$ where $m > n$
@Chris'ssis that is the general form of $\frac{1}{1\cdot 2}+\frac1{2\cdot3}+\cdots$
those kinds of sums
 
Ah, you have a product there.
@Alizter hmmm, aren't these just some telescoping sums?
 
@Chris'ssis a product made in China ?
 
@Chris'ssis yes butthe general form
also m+n not just m oops
 
@Alizter I'm confident you can do this on your own.
@TheGame :-) How are you doing?
 
@TheGame lol
 
5:52 PM
@Chris'ssis Rather ok :)
Eating my daily chocolate
@Chris'ssis What about you ?
 
@TheGame I also eat chocolate every day. I couldn't live without it.
@TheGame Not bad, thanks.
 
@Chris'ssis I understand you so well :D Chocolaaaaaaaaate
 
@TheGame :D
 
I don't like chocolates much.
 
One should study the amount of chocolate eaten in function of the time spent doing mathematics
@Sawarnik Then give me yours :P
 
5:54 PM
@TheGame I can't eat and do math at the same time
I end up writing on my food
 
hehe
 
reading and eating works sometimes
 
@TheGame Since I don't eat them I don't have one :P Though, I have one right now in the fridge, someone gave it to me, tis called Dairy Milk Nuts and Fruits.
@Alizter Me too :D ... though I end up eating and forgetting about math entirely.
 
it depends on what you're reading
 
@Sawarnik I end up doing math and forgetting about eating entirely :/
 
5:57 PM
me too^
 
:// That's strange ://
 
food for thought is stronger than food for the stomach
 
@Alizter $$\displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^\infty\prod_{k=n}^m\frac1k=\frac{1}{m\cdot m!}$$
 
@Chris'ssis change m to m+n?
on the top of the product
 
@Alizter you said $m>n$
 
6:00 PM
because I meant $\displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^\infty\prod_{k=n}^{m+n}\frac1k$
@Chris'ssis which makes the sums diverge
because 1 is empty rpoduct
you get the idea
if m is constant it will not always be $>n$
however m+n is what I meant
 
@Alizter I'm not sure what you refer at.
$$\displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^\infty\prod_{k=n}^{m+n}\frac1k=\frac{1}{m\cdot m!},\space m\ge 1$$
 
@Chris'ssis If $m$ is constant then there will be a time when $m<n$ therefore making pi the empty product which is 1 which will make the sum diverge
however the new formula is fine
 
@Chris'ssis From the pdf, A proof should be an epiphany from the Gods, not a coded message from the Pentagon :D
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@TheGame lol, yeah, sure. :-)
 
It should, but rarely is.
 
6:07 PM
Trying to find something nice I saw these days ...
 
The Gods share very few of their epiphanies ...
... instead they encode them in conciseness.
 
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A: An uncanny inequality with Gamma function

Omran KoubaLet $~g(x)=\dfrac{\Gamma'(x+1)}{\Gamma(x+1)}-\log x$. Now we have $$\eqalign{g'(x)&=-\frac{1}{x}+\sum_{k=1}^\infty\frac{1}{(x+k)^2}\cr &<-\frac{1}{x}+\sum_{k=1}^\infty\int_{k-1}^k\frac{dt}{(x+t)^2}\cr &=-\frac{1}{x}+\int_0^\infty\frac{dt}{(x+t)^2}=0 }$$ So $g$ is decreasing on $(0,+\infty)$. More...

@robjohn have you seen the question above?
 
@robjohn Do you know how to do the case $d_3$ ? math.stackexchange.com/a/951792/150347
 
6:26 PM
@TheGame Precisely
 
hmmm, let me post a nice question (easy level) ...
 
@BalarkaSen You should stop throwing tables
 
why?
 
@WillHunting You should care less about trivias =P
 
Throw something else instead, lol
 
6:34 PM
Here is the foregoing one
Prove that

$$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{ \log(n+1)}{n^2}= \zeta(2)\log\left( \frac{A^{12}}{2\pi e^{\gamma}} \right)+ \sum_{n=3}^{\infty} (-1)^{n+1} \frac{\zeta(n)}{n-2}$$
 
That's a cool identity, @Chris'ssis
 
@BalarkaSen Yeah.
 
@WillHunting Yup!
 
why?
 
@IceBoy Why?
 
6:43 PM
why not?
 
@WillHunting Yup!
 
@IceBoy Why not?
 
why?
 
OK, let me repost it with the proper requirement
Prove without pen and paper that
$$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{ \log(n+1)}{n^2}= \zeta(2)\log\left( \frac{A^{12}}{2\pi e^{\gamma}} \right)+ \sum_{n=3}^{\infty} (-1)^{n+1} \frac{\zeta(n)}{n-2}$$
 
@IceBoy Why not?
 
6:46 PM
Yup!
 
@Chris'ssis: What's $A$ in that?
 
@Semiclassical Glaisher-Kinkelin constant
 
@IceBoy Why?
 
why not?
 
@Chris'ssis Do you mean this one?
I believe so
 
@Chris'ssis another obfuscation: putting $\log(1/e^\gamma)$ there...
@Chris'ssis yes, I believe I actually state that in an old answer.
 
@robjohn I just grouped those things a bit :-)
@robjohn It's a nice question, really.
 
@Chris'ssis I couldn't do it. Got too messy with pochhammers
I am exaughsted today though
trying to prove something about an elliptic equation
 
@Chris'ssis That should not have been closed!
 
elliptic as in pde or as in functions/integrals?
 
6:55 PM
@robjohn Totally agree with you!
 
I think that is the same as Gautschi or my inequality that I put in an answer yesterday
 
@robjohn I voted for reopening the question.
 
@Chris'ssis Okay thanks, only got response now.
 
Who likes this question, might vote for its reopening.
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A: An uncanny inequality with Gamma function

Omran KoubaLet $~g(x)=\dfrac{\Gamma'(x+1)}{\Gamma(x+1)}-\log x$. Now we have $$\eqalign{g'(x)&=-\frac{1}{x}+\sum_{k=1}^\infty\frac{1}{(x+k)^2}\cr &<-\frac{1}{x}+\sum_{k=1}^\infty\int_{k-1}^k\frac{dt}{(x+t)^2}\cr &=-\frac{1}{x}+\int_0^\infty\frac{dt}{(x+t)^2}=0 }$$ So $g$ is decreasing on $(0,+\infty)$. More...

I mean it's a very good idea to reopen such a question, I'm sure there are still nice solutions to see.
 
I don't have enough rep to reopen :)
 
7:05 PM
@TheGame No pb :-)
 
I am getting a bit annoyed at the people who close good questions because there is no effort shown. I think that if a question is definitely not a homework question, it is perfectly valid for someone not to have a clue how to approach a problem they encounter in their studies. Asking for help should engender at least a suggestion or a hint, not a closure of their question as being off-topic. </rant>
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@ted If you were to rank English, French, German and Russian in the order of the amount of mathematical literature in these languages, would it be English > French > German > Russian, roughly speaking?
 
I somewhat agree with your rant, @robjohn. But sometimes what is "definitely not a homework problem" is up for debate.
 
@robjohn I totally agree with you.
 
I dunno, @Jasper. I would guess that French and German might be close to tied. And then there's Latin.
 
7:12 PM
@TedShifrin that is true, that is why I added that condition... however, there are some questions that I think should not have been closed.
 
@WillHunting yep
 
@TedShifrin OK, I think I will study F and G then.
@TheGame Which question are you answering?
 
I tend to try to engage the OP with a small hint or "did you try ..." but I admit that I frequently avoid things where I'm sure it's someone's homework. On the other hand, some guy has been cutting and pasting problems from my diff geo text, and so I know it's homework questions (although he suggests it's self-study, which is certainly possible).
@robjohn: Only when it's blatantly homework with 0 effort have I voted to close. (Like a list of multiple choice problems, or a list of questions ...)
On the other hand, I would vote to kick René off the island entirely. :D
 
@TedShifrin yes. Then it is pretty obviously a homework question.
 
@TedShifrin!
 
7:15 PM
hi @Balarka
 
I vote to kick X out of this site entirely, lol, but I am being wicked.
 
I bet you'd get René and a few others voting to kick me off the island :P
 
lots of us would countervote @TedShifrin
 
I cannot stand the way X answers questions. Overly formatted, overly punctuated, and overly verbose.
 
@WillHunting The ranking
 
7:16 PM
I format and I punctuate, @Jasper. My verbosity is up to the reader.
 
@TedShifrin The key word is overly, lol.
 
@TedShifrin however, the policy of closing questions that are good questions, even if they were homework questions, but half a year or more old, for showing no effort is ludicrous... If the question is good, why remove it now that the homework is past due?
 
@TheGame I see. I am now thinking of being reborn in France instead of Germany, lol.
 
Because it's likely to be lots of other people's homework? @robjohn
 
By the way, why does Germany have so few Fields medallists?
 
7:17 PM
@WillHunting where do you pick up that form?
 
@Semiclassical elliptic as in number theory elliptic curves
 
@WillHunting :)
 
@Alizter!
what's the hubbub about elliptic curves?
 
@robjohn Pick it up from the rebirth office, lol.
 
@TedShifrin There are lots of questions on the site that answer someone or other's homework...
 
7:18 PM
I still believe in prods/hints, @robjohn, but various people have excoriated me for having that preference.
of course ...
 
@TedShifrin oh, yes. I am a big fan of hints if that seems applicable.
 
@TedShifrin You never know when one of the questions posted here might possibly be the homework of many others. It's hard to know that. :-)
 
@WillHunting I'd rather not go in France. I like to call vector space elements elements instead of vectors, LOL
 
I've been reasonably successful with serious students at getting them to follow up with a solution or with further questions.
 
(nudge-nudge @Hippa)
 
7:20 PM
I say they're vectors or elements of the vector space.
Never vectors of the vector space.
 
@BalarkaSen Let's not bother with trivias, lol.
 
very funny
ignores @Will
 
well, @Chris'ssis, it's one reason I have objected to people blatantly cutting and pasting my homework exercises in here, as then someone will do my students' exercises. Of course, often people post wrong solutions in here, too :P
OK, I'm done with 3 1/2 hours of office hours and 1 hour of advising.
 
@TedShifrin I blame the poor guy who has been advising you for one hour
:P
runs away
 
in English Language Learners, 4 mins ago, by Damkerng T.
Oh, I have a little survey for all of us here: do you cross your 7?
 
7:25 PM
@IceBoy No
 
No = 1 vote
 
7:42 PM
Prove that $$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{k^s+1} \ge \frac{\zeta(s)}{\zeta(s)+1}, \space s>1$$
 
8:00 PM
Done (I didn't even realize at first sight it is that easy).
 
I don't agree with Lockhart in his lament @TheGame
 
in Number theory, 52 secs ago, by Alizter
say no problem then tongue face
couldn't help myself
 
@BalarkaSen Prove the inequality above without pen and paper. :-)
 
@IceBoy What part ? He says a lot of stuff
@Chris'ssis without pen and paper Don't worry I only used my computer :P
 
@TheGame lol, OK :-)
 
8:09 PM
@Chris'ssis I have no intention to.
the RHS looks like geometric series with zeta though
 
@BalarkaSen I'm going to do only one move (or I shouldn't answer it yet?)
 
Yeah, go ahead I am not going to think about it
 
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{k^s+1} \ge \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{k^s+k^s} \ge \frac{\zeta(s)}{\zeta(s)+1}$$ Q.E.D.
 
@Chris'ssis That's only a one line proof if one knows that $\displaystyle\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{k^s+k^s} \ge \frac{\zeta(s)}{\zeta(s)+1}$
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I don't get the last inequality.
What @Hippa said.
 
8:14 PM
@BalarkaSen what happened to leaving?
 
Chris'ssis pinged me
 
@TheGame all that fancy artsy stuff, come on... they won't let you in a physics class without elementary algebra!
 
@IceBoy Are you in the US ?
 
perhaps, why?
 
@IceBoy In France there is no such thing as Algebra II, ... Physics I, Mechanics III or whatever. We don't get to choose one by one our courses
So I was wondering
 
8:16 PM
@TheGame What I showed above it's clear. Someone that knows some stuff about Riemann zeta function immediately gets the point.
 
Someone that knows some stuff about Riemann zeta
 
@TheGame lol, what I said wrong? :-)
 
@IceBoy They can see the fancy stuff in another class. Not named Mathematics
@IceBoy More like Applied Technics from mathematics or whatever
@Chris'ssis I fear I am not of those ...
@robjohn How do I add where I am on here ?
 
@TheGame ooooooooooo, you're $\LARGE \text{A PROFESSIONAL}$
 
@Chris'ssis $\LARGE \text{I'm} 16$
 
8:20 PM
@TheGame $\LARGE \text{LOL}$
:-)
 
@Chris'ssis $\LARGE \text{I'M SERIOUS -___-}$
 
children, stop it.
 
Yeahhhhhhhhhhh :-)
 
shhhh @everyone you talk to much.
 
@TedShifrin Tell him I'm 16 -__-
 
8:22 PM
@TheGame along the top, just below the search box, is a "pin" icon
 
@IceBoy Thanks
 
Je n'ai preuve de rien ... mais, en fait ...
 
:)
 
@IceBoy Added
 
:D
 
8:24 PM
Hiya people
 
@Ted There is a good chance that I am enjoying probability at the moment :)
 
@TedShifrin, I'm slowly making progress through your book... :)
 
nsanger !!!
My students commiserate, @nsanger.
 
haha
 
What's your expected enjoyment, @Alizter?
 
8:25 PM
I really like the exposition, anyways.
 
thank you, @nsanger
and there are videos of lectures ... we're up through the middle of Chapter 3 now
 
Oh, neat.
That's about where I've had time to get.
 
@TedShifrin Not that far in yet. I may have detoured into multinomials for a bit but I will come back to main stuff.
 
ah, I'm doing binomial and Poisson random variables now, @Alizter
 
@TedShifrin maybe your the guy to ask
 
8:26 PM
@nsanger: You need to work lots of exercises to really learn, of course.
 
Why do we do quadratic mean for standard deviation?
 
Why not, @Alizter? :)
 
is it because of $e^{-x^2}$
 
@Ted, yeah, I'm trying to do at least 70-80% of the ones in each chapter.
 
So if my distribution was $e^{-1}$ would I take a geometric mean?
 
8:27 PM
Nah ... It's because computation of $(X-\mu)^2$ is a lot easier (and easier to do calculus with) than that of $|X-\mu|$, @Alizter.
 
@TheGame do you see this on your map?
 
That's pretty good, @nsanger.
 
@TedShifrin Ah so varience is just lazy in a way?
 
@robjohn Thanks, @IceBoy just told me :D I added myself already
 
8:28 PM
well, no, it's natural from the viewpoint of linear algebra and analysis, @Alizter ...
 
@TedShifrin oh?
 
linear regression is based on orthogonal projection ... and it minimizes $(X-\mu)^2$.
 
ok this stuff is cool
 
Here's a good elementary exercise for you, @Alizter. Suppose I give you data points $a_1$, $a_2$, $\dots$, $a_n$. And I ask you to minimize (a) $\sum_{i=1}^k (x-a_i)^2$, (b) $\sum_{i=1}^k |x-a_i|$. What do you get in each case?
 
I am now deciding between 4 latex books: Kopka, Gratzer, Kottwitz and van Dongen, lol.
 
8:30 PM
I.e., what is the minimizing $x$ in each case?
 
@Chris'ssis The inequality follows directly from inequality $(6)$ in this answer. I would like to add that, but the darn thing is still closed.
 
@TedShifrin would it be the arithmetic mean of $a_i$?
 
@Jasper: I like Kopka AND Goossens, Mittelbach, Samarin.
For which one, @Alizter?
 
I wanted to say both but I think I am wrong
 
@TedShifrin Ah, the latter seems more of a reference.
 
8:32 PM
@robjohn OK
 
@TedShifrin I see your point with easier calculus
 
They're all analogous. For casual use, you can get what you need on-line. I used these books for figuring out some sophisticated stuff (typesetting 4 books).
The answer to (b) is quite cool, @Alizter, so try an example and do it.
 
Huy
@TedShifrin: I'm a bit rusty on numerical mathematics, are they not equivalent?
 
NOOOO @Huy.
 
@TedShifrin Do you use anything for graphics?
 
Huy
8:33 PM
@TedShifrin: :D
 
I do my graphics in Adobe Illustrator, @Jasper. It's expensive. I never learned to do graphics within LaTeX (pstricks, etc.).
 
Huy
@TedShifrin: Which one of them can be solved using the normal equation?
 
Oh, and I do a lot of graphics with Mathematica, @Jasper. I save them in .eps format and then input them into my LaTeX.
The normal equation gives you the usual least squares solution only, @Huy.
 
@TedShifrin I see. The 5 big packages for graphics in LaTeX are asymptote, metapost, pgf, pstricks and xypic.
 
I know none of it, @Jasper.
 
Huy
8:35 PM
@TedShifrin: Isn't one of them equivalent to the least squares? I forgot everything. >.<
 
My first question is the one-dimensional version of least-squares, yes, @Huy.
 
Huy
@TedShifrin: Ok, then at least I got that right.
 
OK, $\epsilon/2$ points for you :D
 
Huy
I want a balloon.
 
Is it possible to fall in love with someone you have never met, just chatting online? =)
 
8:36 PM
Your kiddies can give you a balloon.
@Jasper: This is not the place for such discussions.
 
Huy
@WillHunting: I don't think it's possible, and I did have a relationship with someone I met on the internet.
 
@TedShifrin for a) i get half the mean and for b) i get the median
 
for (a) you should get exactly the mean, and, yes, for (b) you get the median. Isn't that cool?
 
@Huy I hate balloons.
 
Hi @JasperLoy
 
8:38 PM
@TedShifrin oh sloppy 2 factor
 
Huy
@TedShifrin: Is $e^{\beta H} A e^{-\beta H} = e^{-\beta H} A e^{\beta H}$ for $H$ self-adjoint? I don't think so but I don't see how else to proceed in a simple calculation.
 
@nablablah Hi Bart Parker.
 
@TedShifrin That is pretty cool
 
the lesson to learn, @Alizter, as I yell at my students: Don't distribute multiplicative factors unless you absolutely must.
 
@TedShifrin Know how to do the $d_3$ case ? math.stackexchange.com/questions/951769/…
 
8:39 PM
@TedShifrin ok :)
 
I would assume only if $A$ and $H$ commute, @Huy.
 
Huy
@TedShifrin: Yes, if they do, but I don't think they commute. :s
 
@TedShifrin so is the mode relevent anywhere in this?
 
@WillHunting yes, I know of people who have gotten married that way
 
Then basically you're asking if $AX = XA$ where $X = e^{2\beta H}$, @Huy.
 
Huy
8:40 PM
@IceBoy: The real question is: Did they "fall in love" on the internet or did they really like each other, then met each other in real life and then actually fell in love?
 
I don't know how to get the mode, @Alizter.
 
@Huy Good question.
 
Huy
@WillHunting: I think the two are very different things. I don't think the first exists, but the second certainly does.
 
@robjohn What did you mean by snipping your rabbits?
 
Huy
@TedShifrin: Right. I will need to think about it again tomorrow. Maybe I'm missing something.
 
8:42 PM
I don't know, @Hippa.
 
@WillHunting getting them castrated
 
google.com/… shares why rings should be defined with 1, good article.
 
I know nothing about number theory, @Alizter.
 
@TedShifrin not even elementary?
 
8:43 PM
@IceBoy Is that morally right? Hmm...
@TedShifrin I know the Euclidean algorithm, lol.
 
only what I put in my algebra book ...
 
ah
 
@WillHunting they are being (or have been) neutered
 
oh btw @TedShifrin you are one of my favorite people on MSE :)
 
@robjohn I see. I vaguely remember that rabbits mate a lot.
 
8:44 PM
LOL, thanks, @Alizter ... I'm definitely not some people's at all.
 
@Alizter I must be the other one, lol.
 
@WillHunting and your favorite is sarah lol
 
@Alizter Erm...
@Alizter So are you confident of entering Cambridge?
 
@WillHunting yes
work hard
apply for organ scholarship
 
Not entering is my greatest regret. If I did not go mad, I might have gone there. It is a long story...
 
8:46 PM
@WillHunting On average now is 5A* at a level to get in
 
@Hippa: I don't see John's logic at all. The sum of two rotations of $\Bbb R^3$ is not again a scalar multiple of a rotation, in general.
 
or actually 3A* 2A
 
@Alizter I believe you've made a typo. apply for organ scholarship : sell your organs for scolarship
 
@Alizter I got 4 A's and 2 S paper distinctions for my A levels in 1999.
 
Huy
Meanwhile colleges in Germany are free.
 
8:47 PM
@TedShifrin I don't know either :/ which is why I asked you :)
 
@WillHunting did A* exist back then?
 
@Alizter I am not in the UK, for one. And I don't know how the system has changed, for two.
 
Odd that your questions all are about linear subspaces ... not something most of us have ever thought about when we think about Lie groups, etc.
 
@Alizter Not for my case.
 
@WillHunting Apparently now unis in UK usually prefer high achieving foreign students
 
8:49 PM
@TedShifrin We have done over the past two weeks : Vector spaces, matrices. Hence my questions.
 
@Alizter From what I understand, Cambridge undergrad math is mainly for UK students.
 
@TedShifrin We do not see manifolds and Lie groups
 
@WillHunting English has to be good thats about it
 
I teach this material every year, @Hippa, but I've never thought to pose those particular questions.
I wonder what your teacher has in mind.
 
@alizter I suggest you take all the IA and all the IB courses if you can in Cambridge!
 
8:50 PM
@WillHunting Let's see first
I have to finish AS
 
@TedShifrin It's simple : we have sheets full of those exercises. It's compilations of exercises that were asked at the exam's orals
 
Maths, Further Maths, Physics, Chemistry and Computing
 
@Alizter I took all those except computing, lol.
 
hmm ...
 
@Alizter Talking about A levels brings sad memories. I took the A levels when I was 18, which is also the age I went mad...
 
8:54 PM
 
ugh, @Hippa: I don't need to mess with another app
 
@TedShifrin 1.X and 2.X are sequences, 3.X is general linear algebra, 4.X is more linear algebra, 5.X is matrices
@TedShifrin It's not an app it's a zip file
 
but I can't get to it without a filedropper app
 
@TedShifrin I think I have the mode
 
@TedShifrin Are you on your phone ?
 
8:56 PM
not at the moment ...
my phone is not relevant ... but, no, I'm on my desktop
 
@TedShifrin $\displaystyle \int_0^x\sum_{n=1}^k|x-a_n|\mathrm dx$
 
I do have dropbox
 
@WillHunting make the year you turn 36 the year you regain your sanity
 
or something similar
 
@TedShifrin Then just click download file ... ?
@TedShifrin No app is required
 
8:57 PM
@IceBoy I intend to regain sanity by the end of next year, which is when I turn 34.
 
oh, ok, @Hippa: The page that comes up is super obnoxious ... they're trying to sell their software.
 
@WillHunting at the latest
 
@IceBoy So what is your next username? I change mine tmr.
 
@TedShifrin hello?
 
I am not convinced, @Alizter.
 
8:59 PM
@WillHunting I'll take Will Hunting :-)
 
@TedShifrin good point the mode could be tiny
 
In fact, it has to be wrong, @Alizter.
 

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