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5:00 PM
@Unionhawk I think I'll treat it as satire. If these people can choose to believe such nonsense, then I can choose to believe they don't exist.
 
That's fair
 
alestorm, nice
 
yes
 
I am very much a fan of per component css
Holy crap
 
5:24 PM
@TimStone yeah that's the bit I liked the least too
 
@Arperum opens, sees alestorm ah, that kind of nsfw
 
@Avery About 50% of the lyrics is cursing.
 
About 30% of the bridge is cursing
//Todo: actually run those numbers
 
that's pretty fucking correct
 
There is also a version of the song where all the lyrics are replaced by dogs barking.
 
5:29 PM
any links?
@Unionhawk I might do that in a bit
 
Streamers @Twitch look out for these links top one is an ip grabber, look at the o in YouTube https://t.co/Ml2NhMx140
 
Not sure if that version is on youtube, this is another song from the album
 
holy shit
 
they made a "for dogs" version of the entire new album.
 
Alestorm is good stuff.
 
5:33 PM
@MadMAxJr Yes. And they are touring the US this summer. ANd after that Europe.
 
@Arperum this is beautiful
 
spotify has the entire album, and the dog version.
 
 
@Unionhawk they were gracious to leave the dot in
 
quality comment
also yeah shift > caps lock
 
5:36 PM
they could have used a cyrillic a
 
Really? I doubt they're coming here but now I have to look.
 
hell my caps lock button is disabled
 
@badp this is why stuff like mediashare is safer I assume
Although
The alternative is don't do song requests at all
 
or...
just use some script to automatically pick out songs
you can fool people with ö but not computers
 
Mediashare does this, from what I understand
 
5:40 PM
ah
cool
 
It only allows YouTube links with certain criteria (probably category music, x views y like percentage
 
browsers already detect homoglyph attacks and will only show you the pure ascii version
 
Dang. Tickets available, Alestorm will perform 30 minutes from here.
 
Timeboxed per donation amount
 
$40 tickets, but my anxiety ramps up in crowds. That's the Warped Tour '17. Wayyyy too many people for me.
 
5:41 PM
<https://💩.com/>
 
At least that's how Moon's mediashare worked/works
 
@MadMAxJr ahem
do it
 
I can't without risking a panic attack.
No can do.
 
@Avery ah but if you can specify the display text then you can just put in google.com
 
Been in the ER 3 times for that, not doing it again.
 
5:42 PM
well, rip
 
@Avery this about:blanks for me
 
@badp nah, I know, I just wanted to link it properly.
@Unionhawk weirdly, it does for me too
 
yeah the domain doesn't exist
 
Lame
 
and yeah chrome refuses to accept it's a link
<a href="https://%EF%BF%BD%EF%BF%BD.com/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://💩.com/</a>
hello mojibake
@Unionhawk go report this as a bug on meta
 
5:44 PM
that's not the cali you want I think
 
@MadMAxJr Been there, done that.
Panic attacks suck.
 
(that guy is turkish)
 
EF BF BD is the unknown codepoint thing right?
 
@Frank Though admittedly, I've recovered. The last 3 were doing 'platinum' customer support calls for supporting reporting software involving customized Java & Javascript.
 
look at browser bar
"args": {
    "potato": "\ufffd\ufffd"
},
 
5:46 PM
yeah
go meta
 
It's not fun when a conference call line rings your support number and you're expected to troubleshoot in front of a firing squad.
 
yeah, go @Unionhawk
 
Eep
 
@MadMAxJr Definitely not.
 
@MadMAxJr tell them they have the wrong number
 
5:48 PM
I'd be super annoyed that clients even have access to me.
I'd tell them to shut up, let me do my job, and I'd tell them when it was fixed.
 
@Frank (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
@Frank no
that's no fun
 
Customers don't like it when you point out to them in front of a conference of techs and executives, "The reason why your reporting system is down is that you customized it."
 
Salespeople manage expectations. They talk to clients. I'll make sire the problem gets resolved, but I can't do that with them breathing down my neck.
 
Then they turn all Fry, "Fix it fix it fix it fix it!"
 
5:50 PM
@Frank you tell a client to shut up you get fired lol
 
what is life when you don't get exhausted over trying to explain a complex procedure to a computer illiterate person
 
And it wasn't my job to fix it. Though I could help explain the cause.
 
@MadMAxJr Of course not. But they wanted it, but don't want to deal with the fallout.
 
@GnomeSlice depends on your job (and how politely you tell them to shut up)
 
@Avery 90% of my current position is to bridge the gap between technical persons and non-technical persons. It's kind of an art form.
 
5:51 PM
That's where contracting comes in; "Sure, I can fix it. My emergency rate is $500/hour. Do you accept?"
 
@KevinvanderVelden If you do it with the sass and sarcasm of 1000 suns with 0% obvious aggression you're usually fine
 
When I worked the hobby game store, I could tell people to shut up or go away, under the condition I knew that there would be no sale no matter what.
 
@Frank salespeople are awful at managing expectations, though, or at least the ones at my last job were
 
@ToxicFrog They definitely are.
 
Sales people sell the product after being told the product does things it never did.
 
5:52 PM
Nonetheless, that is literally their job.
 
Support people get called by the sales guy on site with the customer asking how to make it do something it never did.
 
A significant amount of work that landed on eng came from salesdroids lying their asses off about what our product could do
 
Developers get contacted by the support people asking why they told the sales guy it did the thing it never did.
Executives get contacted by the developers who said "It was possible to do that feature but we never got the green light to build the feature."
Then the executive calls the customer, "How much would you pay to have that?"
And this is how software works.
 
And then it comes to eng as "well, there's a $20M contract riding on you implementing <feature which eng was not every consulted about and which may, in fact, violate the laws of physics and/or boolean logic>"
 
5:54 PM
A moment of silence for my fellow support/devs who have been through this.
 
@MadMAxJr that is a really idealistic/optimistic look at it, IMO
 
Then there's me
 
@MadMAxJr I do that a lot. "The application can't do that, but we can add that in, at the cost of $X."
 
I did leave out the part where the client berates support on the phone for their incompetence when they had nothing to do with it.
 
idk what I'm doing but I'm just told to do all the things
 
5:55 PM
If they push back, then the answer is, "Nope, the software can't do that."
 
@MadMAxJr you also included the part where, before this even happened, developers were made aware that this was a feature someone might want, and said it would be possible to implement someday if they got the green light
 
I also left out the part where the exec calls the support manager to cry 'Your technician made me look bad by pointing out we never implemented feature X. Discipline him."
 
Included by implication, I mean
 
Them: "Why haven't you made all 20 apps we expected of you?"
Me: "Well you see I'm only an intern who isn't even done school, I don't know what I'm doing"
 
There are numerous permutations of this scenario.
 
5:56 PM
IME it goes more like
 
All of them result the same though! Nobody is happy! :D
 
Potential customers to @sales "Does it do X?"
@Sales "It totally does X." # sales has no idea if it does X or not, or possibly even knows it doesn't do X but figures eng can probably make it do X, right?
 
Software sales: The art of lying and trying to make it true later.
 
@Customer "Awesome. We will pay you $XXM for N units."
 
or doesnt know what X is
 
5:57 PM
Sales to @eng "hey, we need it to do X by next quarter"
 
and then '$Eng, you can make it do X right' eng: "What's X?"
 
why is russkaja this good
 
But X is technologically impossible.
 
Yeah
 
indeed
 
5:58 PM
In an ideal world a sales person would go "Oh you want this feature? We'll discuss that with our development team"
 
@MadMAxJr My workplace gets one of those. I warn them that it was not our responsibility, and we are not accountable to the salespeople. If they ever try to pin the blame for a feature that was not in the requirements on us again, they can find a new developer.
 
If you're really lucky, X is (a) possible to implement (b) with the current staffing and funding (c) on the required timeline (d) without derailing other, more important projects
 
"You realize X requires a bridge to Oracle, right?" <-- This comment halted SEVERAL requests while I was at a reporting company.
 
In practice at least one of those is false, and sometimes all of them are.
 
6:00 PM
 
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Q: How can you get support candies in Magikarp Jump?

JoeOne of the Trainer Tips in Magikarp Jump says something to the effect of, "Once your berries are upgraded to a certain point, you may get support candies". I noticed that at level 25 you get one support candy upon the 25th upgrade, but the tip suggested to me that you might get them at random or...

 
yeah, he pretty much lost all his rights to sponsoring a IR1/CR1 visa by posting that.
also as his homie overstayed by longer than 6 months (probably), he'd probably be put on removal court the moment they tried to get anything legal
 
It's still funny
 
Yes
 
oh friggin adapted records always cuts their youtube uploads
forgot about that
 
6:12 PM
Twitch Plays the Stockmarket is a thing now, with 50k real USD http://twitch.tv/stockstream https://t.co/07e4Prj5qk
Yes
 
I…have questions
 
@Unionhawk I hope the money gets donated when all is said and done
 
Why does anyone think this is a good idea?.
 
what happens if Twitch becomes a major shareholder in a publicly traded company?
then will it be "Twitch plays the executive boardroom of Apple"?
 
@TimStone the answer to all of your questions is "no"
 
6:18 PM
That sounds about right
 
So when do we get Twitch plays the White House?
 
@MadScientist Something something "it's happening right now" joke.
 
@Unionhawk I would laugh so hard if they managed to sell a whole bunch of Twitch stock and induce an artificial crash in its stock.
 
!sell amzn
 
6:22 PM
THEY MADE A DOLLAR
 
Congrats
Something something a blind squirrel
 
@Avery I mean, that's better than some high-power traders on their off days.
Namely because those off days involve losing billions of dollars so...
 
But wait
There was a dumber idea proposed
Twitch Plays Bitcoin? https://twitter.com/itskellykline/status/869608151502524416
 
true
Why are they even buying shares to Seaboard Corp?
 
dammit, I want to game, but I'm way too dancy on the Alestorm album.
 
6:30 PM
oh, this is why they bought shares to Seaboard
 
So are they playing with real stocks?
I'm still unclear
 
It says real money, so presumably they're buying real stocks with the real money
 
So can't this F-up real businesses then?
or something?
 
@BlueBarren A random process buying and selling up to $50k worth of stock probably won't have a significant effect on the stock market
 
6:36 PM
@murgatroid99 it might affect the individual stocks
 
Any random high frequency trader will probably have a greater impact
 
@Unionhawk What does that even mean?
That's basically like saying "Twitch Plays The Pound Sterling".
 
wait are these real stocks or is twitch making them up?
 
Real stocks, it seems
 
6:42 PM
On whose wallet?
 
whoever is sponsoring this
they started with 50k
trying to increase it
 
twitch company probably
 
y tho
 
whoever decided that this was a more entertaining way to waste $50k than setting it on fire.
 
PR hype
trying to top the CAH boiz
 
6:43 PM
Why would you think Twitch sponsored this?
 
@GodEmperorDune the clip for the song Alestorm by Alestorm contains one of the bandmembers in a pug tshirt.
 
No sponsors.
 
@murgatroid99 i thought twitch plays was a company sponsored thing
 
@Avery RIP, I would not take that kind of risk
 
neither would I
 
6:48 PM
@Avery it's some person's personal money?! wow
 
I don't even have the initial investment
$50k USD
not even close in CAD
 
OP has to know that they shouldn't expect anything back
 
Yeah but if I were OP I would be banking on the dumbest of luck to earn me millions
obviously has money to throw away in the first place
 
OP says they'll donate it I think
 
Lame
but not at the same time
 
6:50 PM
OP is gonna get rekt with transaction fees
 
Robinhood is free
 
oh nice
 
ಠ_ಠ
This is in the actual documentation
 
I can imagine the flamewars behind that
"WE THINK THIS IS REALLY STUPID BUT THOSE STUCK UP ENGINEERS WON'T CHANGE IT AND THE MAN SIDED WITH THEM"
 
6:55 PM
The workaround is predictably dumb and involves you manually setting the From address the first time before it'll show up in the drop-down
> NOTE: The Full Access permission allows a user to open the mailbox as well as create and modify items in it. The Send As permission allows anyone other than the mailbox owner to send email from this shared mailbox. Both permissions are required for successful shared mailbox operation.
ಠ_ಠ
 
I mean
you're speaking AS the mailbox
and you know what
 
why are you using shared mailboxes in the first place?
 
that's the dumb part
 
money may or may not be donated: s.ave.zone/536.png
 
emails should originate from individuals
 
6:57 PM
@GodEmperorDune Well it doesn't even meet my needs, which is the best part
 
i know some companies are too cheap to buy everyone an email, so entire teams use a shared account
 
there are times where you have to do stupid workarounds like this, but usually only when interacting with software outside of your control
 
but it is still terrible
 
I'm actually happy Outlook makes it as inconvenient as possible to write emails from "sales@" or "communications@"
 
@GodEmperorDune In this case it's for a support email where I want the incoming emails to go to multiple people and then also JIRA Service Desk
 
But if you thought that would work as expected, hahahah, no. No it will not
 
> “This is all just my money,” he explains. “I saved it up, and as for as who benefits it’ll just be me. I mean, I’m taking all the risks.”
 
Maybe it's notch
 
@TimStone can't you set up service desk to send comments on the tickets as outbound emails or w/e?
 
okay, maybe it's different for B2B or B2C things
 
7:01 PM
Oh sheeeeee vanquish PC is out now right
When PayPal lets me use it again Imma be buying that
 
@GodEmperorDune Yeah, but this is someone pestering me to have support@company.com behave as support@company.atlassian.com and treat inbound email as new tickets
 
Fuck I've beaten that game so many times
 
Because people keep sending emails to support@company.com instead of creating tickets
I dunno, I have better things to do >_>
 
@TimStone forward support@company.com emails to the harvesting email
makejiraticket@company.com or w/e
 
@TimStone No matter how insane the software, it'll still be easier to configure that than to get people to just create tickets in the first place ;-)
 
7:03 PM
Oh, of course, they're creatively bad at that. But I don't particularly care, as that isn't directly my problem ;)
 
@Wipqozn have you tried vanquish yet?
Were you the one who was interested
 
@GodEmperorDune I can! But that means either continuing to maintain the group in GSuite (lol that rename is still silly) or paying for another license for Office 365
Which tbh is like chump change but it feels wrong
Shared Inboxes below 50 GB don't require a license but afaict you also can't log in directly as them...except I do this at XYZ so hmmm maybe you can?
 
@TimStone it will save you a ton of work, and converting a distro to a mailbox is a pita
 
extreme thinking-face emoji
 
 
7:09 PM
@Avery hue
 
I really hope the guy lives in california
 
i tried to get "buy meme" trending
 
where? in chat?
 
yeah
some dude even did the spam it 400 times in a single line between pepe emojis
 
@GodEmperorDune you're doing it wrong
You've gotta post it on /biz/
it's 4chan vs reasonable people atm
 
7:11 PM
buy RQDE
 
@Avery it wasn't important enough
i have real work to do, sadly
 
seb isn't important
it's just expensive
 
Production shots from an upcoming Papers Please short film by Nikita and Liliya Ordynskiy. Really looking forward t… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/869357592530698241
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@badp but did he do the kill your family speedrun?
 
let's go straight to the source
 
7:21 PM
all this seb talk reminds me of my ex
 
@Arperum i have that shirt, lol
 
@GodEmperorDune I'm not surprised.
 
wait
intel made i9 a reality?
and it has 18 cores?
and it costs... 1999$?
 
still cheaper than the Xeons ;-)
 
7:41 PM
ok, that new UI is cool
@MadScientist i series are consumer oriented though
 
if you're looking on the price, you don't buy the enthusiast platform anyway. They're always at a substantial premium
 
Wow, you people have film nights too?
 
Well, I've got the oracle database up and running, now I need to figure out why I can't start pgadmin to get the postgres database up and running.
 
I went from "sell seb xd" to "let's see live time stocks APIs with .1ms delay so we can vote properly"
 
@Gallifreyan Just read your comment, there's no theme and I think we started first‌​.
Although there's no competition.
 
7:55 PM
Hah, you even discovered Rabb.it first!
 
But as far as set-up goes, I think the format has been pretty set.
 
@MBraedley you don't need pgadmin to start postgres
 
I think that avebot will use some extension
 
60 more rep and I'll be 666
and at that point I'll purposefully never earn anymore rep
 
@Yuuki But really, I think those people on SFF were first (2012).
 
7:57 PM
@BlueBarren downvotes
 
Silly me, I looked at the edit timestamp.
 
@MadScientist No, but it's so much easier for loading the schema and such.
 
@Avery wrong way
 
I'll find some very cool films.
 
an upvote is 15+ rep, right?
 
8:01 PM
@Yuuki Where do you find them?
@BlueBarren +10. An accepted answer is +15.
 
@Gallifreyan hmm so I need to answer 4 questions and not get any upvotes
or 6 upvotes
but I have to be precise otherwise I could get more than 60
 
@Gallifreyan The edit timestamp? Usually right next to the original post timestamp.
 
@Yuuki Hah :) No, I meant the films you watch - where do you stream them from?
For the film night, that is.
 
Google Play.
 
Does it work with Rabbit?
 
8:05 PM
Not anymore, which is the technical issues we've been having, but now I'm using YouTube Movies.
Which is basically Google Play but through YouTube.
 
Hm, that's too bad, really.
I could use Google Movies for our film night, but YouTube movies doesn't even open for me.
 
sadly its not a "shouldiblamecachingand/orwipqozn" clone cc @TimStone
 
 
@GodEmperorDune Dev is basically like 4-12%
 
No robots programming robots. Yet.
 
8:11 PM
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Q: Best Overwatch Mains for PS4

XynozoreWhat are the best Overwatch Characters to play as in the PS4 version of the game? I usually play as either Genji or Widowmaker but people tell me thats not a good idea. I don't want to play as Junkrat or Bastion since they are noob characters.

 
@JasonBerkan google has machine learning running on machine learning so...
 
my only replacement is the I automation code I write myself.
 
Junior Software Developer- requires 7+ years of experience working with java
 
lowest I've seen so far
 
I feel like that doesn't take into account robots taking everyone else's job and then there's nobody for counselors to counsel.
 
8:23 PM
@Dragonrage ...that is not a junior position
 
@Wipqozn May I offer you an egg in this trying time?
 
@Yuuki cc @Wipqozn on that sick burn
@MBraedley its a mid level position that pays a junior level salary
 
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Q: Which of these versions of Minecraft is lighter?

Aramati PazThe original Minecraft is too much for my poor laptop. Do you people know wich of the following is the lighter? Windows 10 Pocket version or TLaucher Optifine

 
Hmm. Farmers is 4.7%. I have a feeling that those people haven't visited a modern farm recently.
 
@GodEmperorDune they dont have a salary range listed, but probably that
 
8:28 PM
@JasonBerkan Maybe they're defining "farmer" as the people who manage the farm. Though, by that standard, most jobs won't be automated for a while
 
@Lazers2.0 From what I can find, TLauncher is a hacked client.
Is that correct?
 
It is
How is that online? Is that not what DMCA claims are for?
 
Well, that makes that question simple: close and burn.
 
anyone seen trailers for Lawbreakers?
 
@Dragonrage is that the FPS where everyone is flying around?
if so, i think i've seen it
 
8:34 PM
@GodEmperorDune flying, grappling and shooting yes
it looks intesresting
 
@Yuuki Could you check if a film is on YouTube Movies?
 
@Lazers2.0 I'm pretty sure the answer in this case is the windows 10 version if we replace cracked Java client with regular java client
 
@Gallifreyan If it's on Google Play, I think it's on YouTube Movies.
 
But alas
 
@Yuuki Too bad, it's not there. Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust.
 
8:40 PM
I'm too deep in stocks send help
 
!help avery
 
@Avery >stock rqde
 
no such stock matey
 
Nonsense. I'm pretty sure we beat all other SE sites on the meme exchange.
I've been living off my dividends of RQDE stocks for months now.
 
So, turns out, I may not have actually downloaded the actual pgadmin package.
But that's a task for tomorrow.
 
8:51 PM
🤔
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@Avery time for mod abuse
 
I propose that we don't use text emoji in chat, because I can't see them
 

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