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GnomeSlice ツ

7:00 PM

@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, A3 is the way to go.

Grace Note

@GnomeSliceツ Basically, aye

FallenAngelEyes

like

A4 is a flyer

GnomeSlice ツ

Also, make them shiny.

FallenAngelEyes

A3 is a poster

Lazers

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Q: Can I get Frozen Synapse on my non-Steam computer without having to buy it again?

I recently received a Steam gift activation for Frozen Synapse. It downloaded without any issues, and I registered my account to be able to play the game online. However, I have another computer, that doesn't have Steam on it, and I don't intend to install Steam on it, at least not in the fores...

user30

7:00 PM

@GnomeSlice What?

GnomeSlice ツ

@ThomasMcDonald You're going to see a stop of that tour?

FallenAngelEyes

@ThomasMcDonald Like not just printed on printer paper

But actually glossy

Grace Note

That article seems to be very evasive about the size of A3, though, in metric or otherwise.

FallenAngelEyes

I think he means

user30

@GnomeSlice Well, we're going to see it.

user30

7:00 PM

Same thing.

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote One sec, I have an A3 sketchpad, I'll give you dimensions

user30

Yes.

GnomeSlice ツ

@GraceNote Here, this should help.

FallenAngelEyes

11.7" by 16.5"

handily enough my sketchpad had inches on it

Grace Note

Thanks, @Gnome and @Fallen! You're both a super help. ♪

GnomeSlice ツ

7:02 PM

@GraceNote No problem! It's what I do.

~When I'm not doing not-that.

user30

Well, we're planning to go, still got to get tickets

FallenAngelEyes

No prob. :) And yeah, I'd use whatever the closest US equivalent to A3 would be.

Powerlord

@FallenAngelEyes How many rods is that?

GnomeSlice ツ

@ThomasMcDonald We?

user30

@Gnome Yeah, me and mates

FallenAngelEyes

7:02 PM

@Powerlord :P

user30

Oct-Nov is gonna be awesome for gigs and stuff, going to see so much

GnomeSlice ツ

@Powerlord As in, Rods & Cones? :S

I really hope not, because that's probably not the first thing that should come to mind when someone hears "rods".

Powerlord

United States customary units

The United States customary system (also called American system) is a system of measurement commonly used in the United States. The U.S. customary units have roots with the imperial units, which were used in the British Empire. Many U.S. units are virtually identical to their imperial counterparts, but the U.S. customary system developed from English units in use before the imperial system was standardized in 1824, and there are several numerical differences from the imperial system. The vast majority of U.S. customary units have been defined in terms of the meter and the kilogram since...

I could have linked to Imperial units, too, as they also have rods, but eh.

FallenAngelEyes

@Powerlord So we should burn witches on a rod of bacon

Grace Note

Hey, I'm opposed to burning here.

Powerlord

7:07 PM

Urgh, I tell someone that my plugin is using mapchooser_extended.cfg and he's like "right, so I set these values in sourcemod.cfg and mapchooser.cfg..."

Arda Xi

Wow.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution is a powerful game.

user30

Yeah, I'm really enjoying it

Powerlord

I'm deciding whether or not I want to bold the configuration file name in my next post or just ignore the next post or what.

user30

so much more than I thought I would

FallenAngelEyes

:1823613 It's been taking 20 minute breaks now and again lately

Mana

7:08 PM

LAZERS IS MY FRIEND.

Arda Xi

@ThomasMcDonald I just finished it.

FallenAngelEyes

I'm thinking I need to pick up Deus Ex and play through them so I can play HR sometime

Arda Xi

Well, not finished, because I want to try a stealth play through now.

Mana

Don't make fun of him man. He may be slow but he's reliable

FallenAngelEyes

Seeing as I'm hearing pretty much only positive things

Mana

7:09 PM

@FallenAngelEyes You really don't need to play the original for Human Revolution

Powerlord

@FallenAngelEyes The Augmented Edition of Deus Ex:HR comes with a copy of Deus Ex.

Or at least it did on Steam

FallenAngelEyes

@Mana I do because I'm obsessive about playing games in order

Arda Xi

@Powerlord I think that was a pre-order only.

Grace Note

Speaking of which, how is Perfect Cherry Blossom?

Arda Xi

@FallenAngelEyes In that case, play HR first. It's a prequel.

FallenAngelEyes

7:09 PM

Not only for story reasons (which I know doesn't apply here because HR is a prequel) but because of improved gameplay/tech reasons

Mana

@FallenAngelEyes Well...you can't go wrong playing the original Deus Ex, but please skip Invisible War

Powerlord

@ArdaXi Oh was it? Whoops.

FallenAngelEyes

Because it's very difficult to go back to stuff like clunky camera controls or painful gameplay when you've already played a version that's superior

Powerlord

@ArdaXi I just pictured you trying to tell @FallenAngelEyes which Zelda games to play in what order to get the timeline order. :P

Grace Note

@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, there's always a weird thing about playing the newer refined game then trying to look at the old one. Even if the older one had shark dragons.

Arda Xi

7:10 PM

@Powerlord No, it isn't.

But wow, €60?

Mana

argh, I was hoping to be more productive this afternoon

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Grace Note

@Mana Pfffft

Mana

nope, back to HR

FallenAngelEyes

@Powerlord Haha yeah that would... be difficult

I'd have to play a couple at the same time I think...

Arda Xi

@Powerlord I don't think I've ever played a Zelda game.

ducks

Grace Note

7:11 PM

Hey, if people can play multiple Megaman games at the same time, I have faith in your ability to play two Zelda games simultaneously.

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote I have not yet moved onto it. I'm pondering whether I want to get better in EoSD first or what.

Mana

@GraceNote Glad to see you have so much faith in me ;_;

Arda Xi

@Mana Me too.

I started up Visual Studio and everything.

All I've accomplished today is setting up a database. And even that isn't done.

Grace Note

@Mana It's not so much how much faith I have in your studiousness as it is my faith in everyone's ability to distract you. Self included.

FallenAngelEyes

Also also, I ah, haven't exactly imported the versions I'm currently playing >_>

user30

7:12 PM

I've done loads today

FallenAngelEyes

And I'm enjoying the EoSD enough that I would like to

so I can give moneys to ZUN

Grace Note

@FallenAngelEyes I could tell by the speed at which you started playing.

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote Haha yeah, I figured

Grace Note

Being the spender myself and having not had the chance to do that sort of thing, I'm well acquainted with the time it takes to import.

If you find a good shop, by the way, let me know. My last one went out of business and I don't have 10 Desires yet.

FallenAngelEyes

But I'm not sure of the best way to go about acquiring them.

Powerlord

7:13 PM

@ArdaXi The chronological order of Zelda games skips around a lot. And in fact, there are two parallel timelines, and at least two games that can be placed anywhere in the series after Ocarina of Time.

FallenAngelEyes

Well crap, I was going to ask you.

Mana

Also, all of my friends suck. I was at a gaming party this past day and I asked them to come up with names for a Game Recommendation site

FallenAngelEyes

makes a note to go to Plan B

GnomeSlice ツ

@Mana, I need you to pirate me something.

Grace Note

Most people recommend Paletweb.

Mana

7:14 PM

the best they came up with was gamerec.com ARGH

Arda Xi

That's totally the name I'm using right now.

GnomeSlice ツ

@Mana ಠ_ಠ

badp

@Mana youplayednowplay

Grace Note

But last I checked they don't have verified security or HTTPS, so I'm really, really sketchy about buying through them.

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote ...Guh. Yeah that's not appealing...

GnomeSlice ツ

7:15 PM

@Mana PlayWhat? GivemeGames?

M'vy

getmoarfun.com

Powerlord

Metroid games also have a strange chronological order... NES/GBA Metroid/Metroid: Zero Mission, GC Metroid Prime, GC Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, Wii Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, GB Metroid 2, SNES Super Metroid, Wii Metroid: Other M, and GBA Metroid Fusion.

GnomeSlice ツ

@Powerlord I sort of thought Metroid Fusion was kind of a standalone. Although, they do reference Adam Malkovich.

Grace Note

@FallenAngelEyes Aye. That's why I went with Himeya. Even if they (sometimes) cost more, they had security.

(I did get EoSD and PCB for $9.99 each, though. Go sales!)

Mana

@GnomeSlice why'd you go off Facebook, I was just about to ask you what you want me to pirate

M'vy

7:16 PM

gaming.stackexchange.com euuuhh wait : NOOOOOO!!

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote Oooh nice.

Grace Note

@GnomeSliceツ Nay, comes after Super Metroid (and apparently Other M)

FallenAngelEyes

Well I'll check those out, thank you :) pleasedon'thatemefortorrentingfirst

GnomeSlice ツ

@GraceNote Well, Adam Malkovich is alive in Other M.

Mana

supergamerectwoturbohdedition.com

Powerlord

7:16 PM

@GraceNote Yes, Other M is inserted into the storyline between Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion.

GnomeSlice ツ

At least, at the start of the game he is, anyway. spoilers

Grace Note

@GnomeSliceツ Well, I know that much, but I didn't know whether Other M happened before or after Super Metroid

Arda Xi

@FallenAngelEyes It'd be awesome to set up a site like GoG at pleasedonthatemefortorrentingfirst.com

Powerlord

Just like the entire Prime trilogy is inserted between Metroid and Metroid 2.

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi Haha

Arda Xi

7:17 PM

You could advertise for it in torrents!

Grace Note

Specifically, I knew that Fusion was the end point, Super precedes it, 2 precedes Super, Prime trilogy before that, and then the original.

Powerlord

@GraceNote The opening cinematic for Other M is a recap of Super Metroid...

GnomeSlice ツ

@GraceNote There are references to previous games in Other M.

Grace Note

@Powerlord I haven't played a Metroid game that came out after Fusion.

GnomeSlice ツ

Yeah, what @Powerlord said.

Powerlord

7:18 PM

@GraceNote Heresy!

FallenAngelEyes

Confession: I've never played a Metroid game outside of the Prime series

Grace Note

I watched my roommate and cheered him on to completing all of Prime 3, though!

Powerlord

You haven't played Metroid: Zero Mission or any Metroid prime games? :O

GnomeSlice ツ

I still haven't gotten the ending of Metroid Fusion that lets you see Samus naked yet. ಥ_ಥ

Grace Note

I never had a Gamecube, though, so I never got to play the first two Prime games.

Powerlord

7:19 PM

@GraceNote I would mention Prime Trilogy for the Wii, but Nintendo made it a limited edition.

Grace Note

And, alas, no, I only watched my other friend do crazy Shinespark stuff in Zero Mission. And a disappointingly easy last battle.

GnomeSlice ツ

@Powerlord I really wanted to get that.

Although, I have the three games individually.

Grace Note

@Powerlord I think we might have that. But I'm not positive and I'm too lazy to check my box.

FallenAngelEyes

@GnomeSliceツ Yeah same

GnomeSlice ツ

I've only played The Prime Games, Fusion, and Other M. I think.

FallenAngelEyes

7:19 PM

Ok, food time, later all

GnomeSlice ツ

And Metroid Prime Pinball.

Powerlord

@GraceNote Yes, the "original" last boss for Metroid (and Zero Mission) is harder than the actual Zero Mission last boss.

GnomeSlice ツ

Which is actually much better than it sounds.

Powerlord

@GnomeSliceツ I also recommend Zero Mission and Super Metroid.

Grace Note

I mean, I'd really like to play Prime 1 and 2. Even if 2 has that aggravating Dark Aether mechanic, it's got the boss of Torvus Bog ♪

Powerlord

7:20 PM

Metroid 2... if Nintendo remakes it, maybe.

Grace Note

Like Powerlord, I highly recommend Super Metroid to you two as well.

Powerlord

@GraceNote Oh hey, if you have a Wii, GC controller, and GC memory card, you can still play those on the Wii.

GnomeSlice ツ

@GraceNote I never finished 2. It's still a good game, but it's definitely the low point in the trilogy.

Powerlord

I finished Prime 2 for the first time the other day.

Metroid 2 is now the only game I've never finished in the series.

Grace Note

@Powerlord I have a Wii, and a GameCube controller, but can't say that I have the memory card.

GnomeSlice ツ

7:21 PM

I think I can play Super Metroid on the Gamecube as well, because I linked my save data of Fusion to my Prime 1 data.

Grace Note

@Powerlord It took me over 6 years to beat that game, as it were.

GnomeSlice ツ

@Powerlord The first one is the best.

Powerlord

@GnomeSliceツ That's Metroid (the original) not Super Metroid. :/

GnomeSlice ツ

@Powerlord Oh, right.

Grace Note

Not because it was hard. Because when I first played it, I was so young and honestly, Metroid II is the scariest of all of them. Especially when you're that young.

GnomeSlice ツ

7:22 PM

Oh, where does Metroid Prime Hunters fit into the series?

Powerlord

Such as shame, as Super introduced most of the mechanics we now take for granted.

@GnomeSliceツ Oh... I'm not sure. I keep forgetting about that game. Before Metroid Prime 3, I know that much.

GnomeSlice ツ

@Powerlord I actually really enjoyed Hunters.

Powerlord

I've never played Metroid Prime: Hunters. :O

Grace Note

You don't have any color, it's all just darkness in the caverns. You're hunting Metroids, which you already recognize as the most dangerous things ever. And you know a Metroid is in a room if there's no living creatures otherwise in the room, but you don't know where the thing is. Until it FLIES OUT OF NOWHERE.

GnomeSlice ツ

@Powerlord It's surprisingly good.

I was a bit annoyed that there were virtually no actual Metroids in Metroid Prime 3.

Or, the Other M, come to think of it.

Grace Note

7:23 PM

Naturally six years later I started a new save and beat it mostly blind in about an hour.

user30

Ooh, I have 4 Praxis.

Powerlord

> In the Metroid series chronology, Metroid Prime Hunters takes place third in the Metroid fictional universe, between Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2: Echoes.

Or so says Wikipedia

GnomeSlice ツ

@GraceNote Which?

Grace Note

@GnomeSliceツ Metroid II

Keep in mind, when I was younger, Yakra from Chrono Trigger was enough to spook me. But that's partly because I confused his horns for creepy evil eyes and so he looked a lot more horrifying.

GnomeSlice ツ

It's coincidental that we're talking about Metroid games today.

Powerlord

7:26 PM

Metroid 2 just seems even mazier than most Metroids. That's including the first one.

GnomeSlice ツ

I just changed that yesterday...

Grace Note

@Powerlord It quite is. For lacking a lot of the things that Super Metroid introduced, it still stands up as a pretty strong game in my opinion.

That, and it introduced the Spazer Beam.

GnomeSlice ツ

The games are all so freaking difficult though. I haven't been able to get the nude endings in any of the Metroid games I've completed so far.

I think I did Fusion in like 2:50 once.

Oh jeez, how do I disable email notifications from Frozen Synapse?

Mana

@GraceNote You too, eh? I was so stoked when I finished that game as a kid because I just felt so tense every time I played it. It was legitimately scary.

GnomeSlice ツ

x_x

Grace Note

7:31 PM

@Mana It was. The modern games, even however alien and startling they make them, they still haven't come in comparison to me.

Mana

@GraceNote Actually, tbh, I thought Fusion did a pretty good job with the atmosphere. That game also scared me.

The first person ones weren't, though. They were beautiful and the atmosphere was great, but the horror just wasn't there for me.

Grace Note

@Mana Never quite frightened me, that one.

Powerlord

One thing that bugged me in Metroid Prime 1 and 2 was that your guns didn't stack. This was particularly a problem in Prime 1, since they DO stack in Super Metroid (and Prime 3) for the same 4 weapons.

Grace Note

@Powerlord Sans Plasma/Spazer

Powerlord

@GraceNote Spazer isn't present in Prime 1 or 3, iirc.

Grace Note

7:33 PM

Yeah, but you couldn't combine Plasma and Spazer in Super.

Powerlord

Charge Beam, Ice Beam, Plasma Beam, and Wave Beam are in Prime 1 and 3.

Grace Note

Since Spazer's only effect was "wide beam" and Plasma got that effect when combined with Wave

@Powerlord Eh? Prime 3 was a bit different in that you didn't really have separate beams at all. I mean, Ice was on your missiles, even.

GnomeSlice ツ

@Mana I thought so too...

badp

That must sell for a lot of refined

runs

Powerlord

@GraceNote Oh right, I forgot ice wasn't a beam in that one.

badp

7:35 PM

(for a moment I thought you were talking about unusual effects.)

GnomeSlice ツ

There was a while when you kept seeing these cocoon things, and then after you did some thing, and went back the way you came, the cocoons were all burst open, and there were no monsters to be seen.

Powerlord

pulls out a Snow Cone and puts it on his head.

Grace Note

I think one nice thing about Prime 1, though, is that you could use them beams differently thanks to, for example, the missile charge effects. You lost that coolness in Prime 3.

Powerlord

I bet I can sell this snow cone for a lot of metal!

Mana

@GnomeSliceツ Like, I just remember this one scene in one sector where you're going back to the teleporter and there are no enemies around anywhere and suddenly this MASSIVE shadow flies through the background, completing with a loud roaring noise.

Powerlord

7:36 PM

@GraceNote Whenever I played Prime 1, I only found myself using the Super Missile charge beam.

badp

@Powerlord I'll give you a market gardener for it

Grace Note

Parallel to the Power Bomb specials in Super Metroid, though really Ice and Plasma were the primarily useful ones. Spazer was so weak

Powerlord

@badp Have one already. :P

Grace Note

@Powerlord I'd probably keep using the Flamethrower less out of any efficiency and more so I can burn things.

Mana

When I replayed the game and was on edge for it to happen it wasn't scary but when I wasn't expecting it at all I had to pause the game and go walk it off for a bit

badp

7:37 PM

@GraceNote W+M1, eh? :P

GnomeSlice ツ

@Mana Oh, Sector 5. You get this big warning that a creature named THE NIGHTMARE has escaped quarantine. When you start heading back the large room is all destroyed, and you keep seeing his shadow flying around in the background with like destruction sounds.

Grace Note

@badp It saddens me that I understand that despite not playing that game.

badp

@GraceNote You're welcome.

Powerlord

@GraceNote It's OK if you don't get the Snow Cone reference, though.

Mana

@GnomeSliceツ That's the one.

GnomeSlice ツ

7:38 PM

I couldn't stand the sound the fire beam made in Prime 3.

Grace Note

@Powerlord That one went over my head.

GnomeSlice ツ

@Mana I did the game on Gameboy player first, too, on a larger TV.

That scared the shit out of me.

Powerlord

Snow Cone is the name of my Unusual Dead Cone hat with Blizzardy Storm effect in TF2. Which is, as far as I know, the only one of that hat in the entire game.

Arda Xi

6

What.

Ah

7:39 PM

Congratulations on owning that, by the way

@ArdaXi Bahahahaha

GnomeSlice ツ

Oh wow, and the way his eyes ooze green goop as you hurt him...

Powerlord

@ArdaXi Well, do you know what that is?

Arda Xi

I know what that is thank you very much.

user30

@Powerlord Uncrate?

Arda Xi

7:40 PM

I used to have a tape recorder.

Powerlord

@ThomasMcDonald Yup. The only unusual hat I've ever uncrated, right after Valve added the new effects.

Grace Note

I still have an Alvin and the Chipmunks cassette tape.

GnomeSlice ツ

@Mana You know which part was really unsettling to me in that game?

Grace Note

Shame I don't have anything that can play it.

GnomeSlice ツ

@GraceNote I think I still have 4 or 5 Alvin and the Chipmunks cassette tapes.

Grace Note

7:41 PM

I can play vinyl but not cassette, but I don't own any vinyl. Something is wrong.

Mana

@GnomeSliceツ Having to escape from the ridiculously overpowered Samus clone?

user30

@Powerlord So how many keys did you use for that?

GnomeSlice ツ

@Mana No, those were just terrifying, not unsettling.

Powerlord

@ThomasMcDonald As The Medic once said... "I have no idea!"

GnomeSlice ツ

Remember the part where you have to go see who is using a Data terminal somewhere, and when you get there, there's just some guy in a lab coat calmly typing away at the terminal?

Arda Xi

7:43 PM

@GnomeSliceツ Maybe you should lower the pitch.

Powerlord

@GnomeSliceツ Uh, OK, so they had Super Missiles and didn't use them? :P

GnomeSlice ツ

@Powerlord They don't work that well against him anyway.

Mana

@GnomeSliceツ Yes. And then he turns out to be one of the virus things.

GnomeSlice ツ

I'm not even sure you had them by then.

Mana

That was pretty unsettling.

GnomeSlice ツ

7:44 PM

@Mana Yeah but not that, just the way this whole place is gone to shit and this guy is just there.

It's unbelievably ominous.

Grace Note

@Powerlord Nightmare controls gravity. Super Missiles instantly drop to the ground.

Mana

Yeah, you're right.

GnomeSlice ツ

@GraceNote Actually, all missiles drop to the ground when he uses his distortion thing, I think.

Powerlord

@GraceNote I meant in the second half of the fight, after the gravity controller is destroyed.

Grace Note

I mean, you could hit with them by shoving them right in his face. But that doesn't work very well either.

GnomeSlice ツ

7:45 PM

@Mana And that screenshot where you see the SA-X's white eyes actually freaked me out for about a week.

Grace Note

@Powerlord I don't think I bothered to make that important distinction when I played, so I was unaware.

GnomeSlice ツ

@Powerlord You don't really have time to charge up super missiles in that fight.

Powerlord

@GnomeSliceツ You don't charge super missiles in the side-scrolling ones.

Grace Note

You don't charge missiles

GnomeSlice ツ

Grace Note

7:46 PM

At least, not to be super missiles. You charge for the diffusion missile

Powerlord

It's Prime that makes you charge Super Missiles.

Grace Note

Which you don't quite have at that point, anyway, if I'm not mistaken.

GnomeSlice ツ

@Powerlord It's been a while since I played it. Where do you see super missles in that video anyway?

Powerlord

@GnomeSliceツ It's the icon with the 14 below it at the top of the screen.

Or at least I think that's the Super Missile icon...

GnomeSlice ツ

@Powerlord ...That's Power Bombs.

user30

7:47 PM

@Powerlord Or you'd rather have no idea :P

GnomeSlice ツ

Which don't hurt Nightmare at all.

user30

As would I

Powerlord

@GnomeSliceツ Oh whoops.

GnomeSlice ツ

Super Missiles are a passive upgrade in that game, now that I think about it.

Once you get it, all of your missiles are super missiles.

Powerlord

See, Metroid has trained me that the icon order is always missile, super missile, then power bomb. That's how it works in Zero Mission and Super Metroid. :|

GnomeSlice ツ

7:48 PM

I don't get the whole Power-Bomb thing though in Metroid Fusion.

Powerlord

Granted, Power Bombs are useless in Metroid: Zero Mission.

GnomeSlice ツ

The game starts, with a huge explosion crippling this station, and you get sent in to check it out. turns out the explosion was caused by a power bomb. But I can spam power bombs anywhere I want, and the station doesn't even get scratched. =[

Powerlord

I mean, you don't get them until right before the end of the game, and the only times you really use them are to get more power bombs.

Grace Note

Yeah, was 'bout to say, I didn't do mild sequence breaking because of Power Bombs for nothing in Super Metroid...

GnomeSlice ツ

@Mana, did you remember that image?

Mana

7:50 PM

@GnomeSliceツ Yeah

Powerlord

It's just crazy in ZM that the only reason to get Power Bombs are the one corridor that gets blocked by power bomb blocks after you pass through it.

(and to get 100% collection rate)