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Loktar

2:00 PM

has happened to my sons and myself a few times, so I just go the email route

Oak

Can't decide what to put in the "about me" box :\

badp

@Oak Former moderator of Gaming, I now study X at Y and in my spare time I love Z and T

Powerlord

@Oak Well, clearly witches.

FallenAngelEyes

@Oak I am a tree. Hear me roar! Unless you're not in the woods when I fall.

Oak

Fallen's wins so far :)

Arda Xi

2:01 PM

gaming.stackexchange.com/posts/26190/revisions

Why is this necessary?

badp

shrugs.

Oak

Though it's less mature

Arda Xi

The tag specifically says

> Only use this tag if your problem is with this OS configuration, or with the Windows port of a game.

Brett White Ψ

@Rapida I hope that answers some questions? It's kinda wonky, as I run the contests and figure out who gets the stuff, and then someone else has to order them. My knowledge about Steam and the gifting is muy limitado

badp

@ArdaXi Adjusted.

Arda Xi

2:02 PM

You did that just as I rolled back.

Read the tag wiki for windows again.

Who won?

I did.

Cool.

@Oak If you can't be childishly silly once in a while on a site whose top questions include "How can I tell if a corpse is safe to eat?" then there's no hope for humanity

Arda Xi

> Only use this tag if your problem is with this OS configuration, or with the Windows port of a game.

Rapida

2:02 PM

@BrettWhite Makes sense, I'll ping you if I don't have it by tonight

badp

Eh, it's an ITG question.

Arda Xi

So? PC is sufficient.

Windows is a disambiguation tag more than anything.

badp

Are you saying that because PC ===== Windows or..?

Oak

@FallenAngelEyes that much is true, though I thought about copying my description to all other sites... though as long as I don't use my real name, I guess it doesn't really matter

badp

@ArdaXi We should just keep in mind that tags are generally not worth getting in fights over; they're supposed to be fuzzy

Arda Xi

2:03 PM

We should never use both PC and Windows.

badp

That's why I chose to refine rather than revert, by removing PC since he added Windows

Arda Xi

But why not use PC?

CyberSkull

@oak, @GraceNote @badp I've updated my answers and will be going offline in a few.

badp

Why not use Windows? It's more accurate.

Arda Xi

So then we'll have to edit every question tagged with PC for a game that isn't cross-platform.

badp

2:04 PM

I dunno, I can see both sides of the argument. Right now I'd like the PC tag to deflate

FallenAngelEyes

@Oak Check mine. I have currently gone for silly. I anticipate changing this often until I settle on something.

Arda Xi

Then we should decide on a policy and use it everywhere.

badp

@CyberSkull Thanks

Arda Xi

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to have the PC tag in the first place.

Grace Note

@Oak You could always do what I did and put in a video game quote.

badp

2:05 PM

@ArdaXi Remember we don't have a button to nuke tags from orbit. Well, Grace might have it, but it's still too coarse in this situation

Arda Xi

It's more of a counter-tag against consoles.

For console games, we always use xbox-360 or ps3, never consoles.

badp

In many places PC could do with being replaced, and in many others it should just be removed

Grace Note

@badp I have a button that says "Call Jeff". But it has a chance of killing me if I press it.

Arda Xi

So why do we use pc instead of windows, mac-osx and linux?

badp

For now we should be pruning the tag from when it's used just as a 'platform tag'... slowly.

Oak

2:07 PM

@CyberSkull removed my comment

and split my vote :)

badp

@ArdaXi Questions about mouse sensitivity and keyboard binds? Dunno

Arda Xi

So then we should nuke the pc tag.

Grace Note

@badp Mouse or keyboard seems more appropriate than noting the rather obvious system

badp

@GraceNote I know.

@ArdaXi I agree with the sentiment, but we can't just remove it from all questions

Arda Xi

Meh, we should be able to.

badp

2:08 PM

In many places it'd need replacement with the OS tag, rather than straight removal, and only by doing that we can stumble on legitimate uses of the tag

Grace Note

I mean, if you're playing Mario Paint or Typing of the Dead, the platform is also rather inherent.

Oak

@Fallen thanks, now I have a popup :)

CyberSkull

@badp I do believe there are legitimate uses

of pc

FallenAngelEyes

@Oak Haha awesome. Remember you can use the syntax if you don't actually want it to show up in your bio, that's what I did.

Arda Xi

I personally don't see the difference between the differentiation of windows and linux and xbox-360 and ps3.

CyberSkull

2:10 PM

what about pc-gaming for talking about pc games in the broadest sense?

Arda Xi

@CyberSkull But what's a 'pc game' in the broadest sense?

Oak

@FallenAngelEyes yea I saw it, but I don't really care either way

badp

@CyberSkull You make me want to doublecheck none of our tags have 'gaming' in it

FallenAngelEyes

Ah gotcha

Powerlord

@GraceNote And yet, Mario Teaches Typing isn't. ;)

Grace Note

2:11 PM

@Powerlord Shhhh

Arda Xi

@GraceNote Dreamcast, PC, PS2 or Arcade?

Powerlord

One more thing, changing to Windows also breaks out that older games would be under dos instead of windows.

badp

Well the few that do are okay.

CyberSkull

@badp well, it's gaming done on a personal computer

Grace Note

@ArdaXi Double shhhh

badp

2:12 PM

@CyberSkull It's like 60% of this site

CyberSkull

I could say pc-gaming would be like pornography, I would know it when I see it :P

Arda Xi

@CyberSkull So then we should also tag console games with console instead of xbox-360 and ps3.

Right now we have a double standard.

Powerlord

@CyberSkull gaming is redundant in a tag on a site about gaming.

Oak

Hey, age doesn't appear in the popup :(

CyberSkull

yeah

I was just throwing it out as a discussion point, I think it's a bad idea too

FallenAngelEyes

2:13 PM

I just noticed that when you look at a question a >1000k user has edited, hovering on the Revision link also gives you the popup of the user who last edited.

Is that WAI?

Arda Xi

Hmm, I forgot you could connect keyboards to a PS2.

Loktar

yeah man... ps2 port duh!

:P

FallenAngelEyes

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Q: What items are worth more when brought/sold to a specific NPC(s), rather than to a regular merchant?

(Inspired by the 'What items should be saved for turn-ins?' question for Fallout: New Vegas.) In Oblivion, what items should be saved for turn-ins? For example, Roland Jenseric of The Order of the Virtuous Blood will pay 250 gold for Vampire Dust which is only 50 gold at 100% value when sold t...

oblivion

CyberSkull

@arda and keyboards to the wii ;)

FallenAngelEyes

Example here. Hovering on the revision link gets you Dave DuPlantis's box

Arda Xi

2:15 PM

@CyberSkull Well, I knew that.

@FallenAngelEyes It works on any userbox.

Oak

@FallenAngelEyes that's a bit odd, might be a bug?

FallenAngelEyes

@Oak Yeah, I was wondering if it was WAI or if I should post on Meta.SO about it

Arda Xi

How is it odd?

A userbox is a userbox.

Lazers

0

Q: Where can I get Jones in the Fast Lane?

Sierra had a 1990 game called Jones in the Fast Lane which my family used to have the CD for but now it's been lost. Does anyone know of a legal way to get this game other than buying an old CD off of Ebay?

pc old-games

Oak

@ArdaXi it doesn't just appear when you hover on the userbox, it also appears when you hover over the edit date.

which is the point Fallen is making (I think)

Arda Xi

2:18 PM

@Oak Just like the userbox on the asker also appears when you hover over the asked date.

The edited/asked/answered date is part of the userbox.

Grace Note

Working as intended.

Oak

@ArdaXi ah, I see what you mean

Arda Xi

This is the entire userbox.

Oak

It just isn't highlighted

FallenAngelEyes

@Oak Yeah, 'twas

Arda Xi

2:18 PM

Not this.

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi Ah, that clarifies it then, thanks.

Arda Xi

It's more obvious if you look at the asker.

See that highlight?

FallenAngelEyes

Gotcha. Just seemed a little unintuitive on the revisions bit.

badp

@ArdaXi This is what expands however

Arda Xi

@badp True, but still, it's the entirety of the userbox that triggers it.

FallenAngelEyes

2:23 PM

Rock of Ages looks hilarious. I think I may have to get this

Loktar

Whens it out?

I preordered it a while back.

FallenAngelEyes

I have no idea

Brant

Hmm, it's like a reverse Katamari.

CyberSkull

@loktar it came out on XBLA on weds, not sure about other platforms

well, good morning.

FallenAngelEyes

Oh, it's by the same people that did Zeno Clash

Brant

2:48 PM

I liked Zeno Clash.

Loktar

Zeno Clash was fun

very short, but very stylistic

Brant

I don't mind short games. I finish far too few games these days anyway.

Loktar

yeah Im in the same boat, although Deus Ex is holding my attention

Arda Xi

@Loktar HR?

Wipqozn

@Brant same here

Loktar

2:57 PM

yeah

Arda Xi

@Loktar How many boss fights have you done?

Wipqozn

I'm going to play through HR when I finish with the original.

Loktar

@ArdaXi I think only 1

Arda Xi

Yeah. That'll wear off.

Loktar

do the 2 bots at the end of the first Shenghai count?

when I quit last night I was going to Montreal.. my game crashed though so I just called it a night.

Arda Xi

3:02 PM

@Loktar Not really. If you had EMPs, those were really, really easy.

Loktar

yeah lol thats what I did

just 2 emp grenades

Arda Xi

I used my UR-DEDs on them, I only had one EMP.

Loktar

the secton before that I just used a gas grenade and took out all the guards at once

was amazing.

Arda Xi

I'm stuck at the third boss fight.

I seriously don't feel like picking up the game anymore.

Loktar

I assume thats the merc that almost killed you in the beginning?

Arda Xi

3:03 PM

@Loktar Where are you right now?

Loktar

My game crashed when tryign to load the video going to Montreal

Arda Xi

@Loktar The third boss fight is in Singapore.

Loktar

I just finished killing those 2 bots

only like 16 hours or so in right now, been doing all the side quests

Arda Xi

Ah, right.

Loktar

I know the boss fights will suck because Im all stealth not killing anyone :?

Arda Xi

3:04 PM

I still need to ask someone who's played through Hengsha twice a question.

Grace Note

@ArdaXi Do we have anything on that fight here on Gaming?

Arda Xi

@GraceNote Don't think so, but I'm reluctant to ask it just yet because it is a humongous spoiler, in the sense that knowing of the question can severely ruin your game.

Grace Note

@ArdaXi "How do I defeat the third boss", and use a spoiler block?

Arda Xi

@GraceNote It's... complicated.

Grace Note

I mean, it will probably crash the room here with the onebox feed, unfortunately, unless you're really good at padding the top part.

Arda Xi

3:06 PM

I can't explain why without spoiling it too. It's very frustrating.

Grace Note

You would expect that a good walkthrough of the game would include this fight, aye?

Arda Xi

The point is, DX:HR differs from most games in that you get the opportunity to make choices.

@GraceNote Probably not.

A good walkthrough would not.

A couple of chapters back I made a bad decision, and that decision is making this boss fight a lot harder.

Loktar

Yeah the only complaints I have seen on the game are the boss fights.

My only complaint so far is that only one energy bar auto recharges

I think they all should recharge over time personally

Grace Note

That should be something covered in a good walkthrough, basically as a "If you had done X, then you have increased the difficulty of this fight".

Arda Xi

@GraceNote Well, yes, but I don't want people to know that they should not do X.

Grace Note

3:08 PM

Aye, which is the problem here

Loktar

I hope it doesnt involve stiffing the China man for autopsy information.

Thats the only "wrong" thing I have done in the game

Arda Xi

Which is why I want to discuss it with someone who's made the decision already.

Grace Note

The base question at root is the fight, the issue being that you don't have a way to guarantee an answer that you actually need given your scenario.

Arda Xi

It's a pretty huge difference though.

Grace Note

Oh, I don't deny that it is.

Honestly, though, that strikes me as even more reason why we would need a question on that.

Arda Xi

3:11 PM

The answer to any boss fight is basically "Shoot X until dead".

Grace Note

Well, yes, but unless the fight is easy enough that you can disregard any and all stage hazards and boss attacks, a good answer always includes how to handle whatever makes the "reduce the target's HP to 0" more difficult.

This strikes me a lot like the First Boss in Bunny Must Die, though.

user30

raghrrr

Grace Note

In essence, I say that this handicapped/alternate (or whatever method that the battle is more difficult) 3rd boss fight sounds like it warrants being a question on its own that is separate from the standard 3rd boss fight question.

Arda Xi

@GraceNote I wouldn't know.

Lazers

0

Q: Shooter game like Rage with gun

Is a recent episode of Breaking Bad, one of the scenes shows a charactor playing a shooter game called Rage which reminded me of the old arcade game House of the Dead. http://www.gamefront.com/on-last-nights-breaking-bad-rage-is-a-rail-shooter/ Is this really a game with a gun? If not, are there...

xbox-360

0

Q: Why they are so many terran at GSL

In the GSL tournament hosted by gomTV (often refered as gomTVT), they are a lot of terran. I wonder why. On the ladder, the race balance seem a lot better (see http://sc2ranks.com/). So how to explain that terran is fawored in top level play ?

starcraft-2 terran

0

Q: What does term "rail shooter" mean?

pretty simple question, what does it mean when a game is refered to as a "rail shooter"? When looking at some articles about upcoming Rage, I saw that it had been refered to as "not a rail shooter" for console but IS a "rail shooter" for iPad/iPhone.

game-mechanics genre

Arda Xi

3:17 PM

@GraceNote Well, basically, you don't have any augmentations.

Wipqozn

@FallenAngelEyes l o l o l. That made my day. Thank you.

Powerlord

@Lazers Because SC2's main race (since none of the expansions have come out) is Terran?

Grace Note

@ArdaXi That sounds like an easy thing to phrase, and which you can justify the reason why that's an issue in a spoiler block if it's something very important. That way, people will understand that you're not doing this out of self-challenge, but will only know the exact reason if they read up.

Wipqozn

@Lazers ...

FallenAngelEyes

@Wipqozn lol you're welcome :P

Loktar

3:24 PM

@Powerlord I think its because Terran is easy mode! :P

Oh your attacking my base lol ok let me fly it away you sillys.

Powerlord

@Loktar It is? I mean, I haven't played a lot of SC2, but Terrans were nominally the weakest race is physical force in SC1.

Wipqozn

@Powerlord In SC2 they are the easiest to learn race, so a lot of newer players start with them.

Loktar

They are all balanced pretty well honestly, but Terran seems cheap imo.

Powerlord

@Loktar flying buildings move extremely slowly; enemy aircraft can easily kill them.

Arda Xi

@GraceNote Posted it.

Loktar

3:26 PM

@Powerlord yeah but thats only if the enemy has any air

Powerlord

Terrans main gimmick in SC1 was their toys. Such as cloaking units and nuclear bombs.

Loktar

Nukes arent used quite as much in sc2

Powerlord

@Loktar Or units that can shoot airborne units. i.e. any basic unit except Zerglings or Zealots ;)

Loktar

The Terran units just have more ... whats the word im looking for...

Synergy

@Powerlord zerg anti air is crap in sc2

Hydras are insanely slow and pretty expensive

Wipqozn

@Loktar I would agree that they are OP in low level play, simply because of how easy they are to learn compared to the other races.

Loktar

3:27 PM

those are the zergs main air defence

Grace Note

@ArdaXi Looks good. Upvoted. ♪

Loktar

@Wipqozn yeah thats what I mean mostly

I think overall the game is pretty balanced

Powerlord

@Loktar They killed Spore Colonies in SC2?

Wipqozn

@Loktar Agreed.

Loktar

@Powerlord well there is something sort of like spore colonies that devourers can use

Powerlord

3:28 PM

Then again, what I have played of SC2 almost felt like they were making changes for the sake of making changes.

Loktar

zerg its just very hard to switch between air and ground

Wipqozn

@Powerlord You've played games other then TF2?

Powerlord

@Wipqozn You... have seen the size of my Steam games library?

It's over 200 now.

Loktar

nice

Powerlord

Unfortunately, a percentage of that is my backlog.

Gah, Melissa's late.

Arda Xi

3:30 PM

@Powerlord You... have seen the amount of hours you've logged on TF2?

Loktar

heh yeah I have only played 33% of my games

Powerlord

@ArdaXi Yes, I have. The question is, how many of those were idling back when you got continuous item drops for that?

Wipqozn

@Powerlord Actually, no, I haven't. I was (obviously) joking about the TF2 comment, but I've never ventured into your steam profile before.

Loktar

wonders.mine.nu/astats/…

Ill post mine too to be fair

wonders.mine.nu/astats/…

^ love that site

Wipqozn

@Loktar IS that your daughter in your steam ID?

Lazers

3:35 PM

1

Q: How do I kill Namir?

So I made a pretty big mistake.* No need wallowing over it, I'm here now. Point is, I'm at the third boss in Deux Ex: Human Revolution, and I lost all my augmentations. Basically, I have a permanent EMP. This puts me at a severe disadvantage. Can I still kill him? How do I do it? (I have a few...

deus-ex-human-revolution boss-fights

Loktar

heh yeah

Arda Xi

wonders.mine.nu/astats/…

Loktar

My avatar is always of her making a crazy face

Arda Xi

Teehee.

Loktar

Nice which one is that for?

Arda Xi

3:36 PM

Blockbuster.

Loktar

Oh wow, nice job

Arda Xi

@Powerlord Ssh. (pre-emptive)

badp

reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/k0rn7/…

Arda Xi

@badp Old.

I posted that here almost half a year ago.

badp

I'm sorry I don't check reddit every 15 hours

Arda Xi

3:43 PM

@badp There's a difference between 15 hours and 5 months.

Lazers

3:56 PM

0

Q: How to enable stereoscopic 3D in Deus Ex Human Revolution?

I cant enable stereoscopic 3D in deus ex human revolution (the button appears red), i have the latest drivers and windows 7 x64 but the game does not allow me to enable this feature. Im using an i7 with 8GB of RAM and an ATI RADEON HD 5670 graphics card What can I do?

deus-ex-human-revolution 3d

Mana

4:14 PM

> this is not a subjective question. i'm not asking for opinions. the basic nature of my question is quantitative. which device+emulator combo yields the highest framerate (across some sampling of games)? which device+emulator combo implements all native features (as demonstrated by faithful emulation of some sampling of games)? etc. the answers to date, while informative, have not been supported by this type of quantifiable information, hence i've not accepted any answers.

4

Q: What "complete" NES and SNES emulators exist for portable/handheld devices?

I'd like to know in as much detail as possible, state of the art is for emulating NES and SNES on portable/handheld devices, such as smart phones, existing portable gaming devices (PSP? DS?) and dedicated handheld emulation devices. My main concerns are emulator quality and performance. I know t...

nes snes emulation mobile

badp

I do not like lawyers.

Tweeted by notch on September 1, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Mana

Well, I guess I should edit that info in and change the title. But then what? It's still kind of localized.

@badp My parents are lawyers!

:(

badp

Your parents are bad, and...

Mana

I should feel bad.

badp

You should feel good about the boatload of money they probably make

:P

Tim Stone

4:21 PM

@badp Don't say that, they might sue you for slander.

Loktar

heh wonder why Notch doesnt like Lawyers, could it have something to do with Scrolls?

badp

@Loktar Which one? Keep mixing up those

Loktar

lol

Yeah elder scrolls and scrolls Im like wtf? Am I playing a customizable card game or an open world rpg?!

FallenAngelEyes

Ahahahaha I just came across the Gel Cannister in Bastion and loudly shouted "What the FUCK!?" at my monitor when I used it

Mana

heh

@FallenAngelEyes Is this on your second playthrough?

FallenAngelEyes

4:29 PM

Yeah

John

TROPICO 4 Y U NO WORKS?!?!

Lazers

0

Q: How many copies of Magicka do we need to play co-op?

To play the Magicka campaign in co-op mode, do we need to buy a copy each, or is one enough?

multiplayer magicka

Powerlord

@ArdaXi I'm sorry, did you not want me to point out that you used an achievement unlocker to get to that position?

@Mana Even if it somehow wasn't subjective, it's still a list question.

Loktar

4:45 PM

wait.. what?

@ArdaXi you used the unlocker for it :( ?

Powerlord

@Loktar I don't think he's actually earns achievements in any games, he just uses an unlocker to unlock all of them in every game he plays. You're just now learning this?

Loktar

yeah :?

defeats the purpose imo.

Oak

I just realized, our site has been giving away games each week. Why don't we advertise this in all sorts of places? I'd guess it could be a very good lure to draw users...

Loktar

gaming se is?

Mana

@Oak It is, I'm just trying to figure out how to pitch it.

Arda Xi

4:56 PM

Finally I cleared that damn boss fight.

Powerlord

> apple suing for design patents, and then getting sued back for fundamental cell tech patents is more like bringing a knife to a bear fight.

Arda Xi

With a gas grenade.

Oak

@Loktar yes, gaming.se is giving away games :)

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