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1:41 AM
I'm voting to undelete the standard loophole suggestion of including MetaGolfScript as a standard loophole. Link here.
I figured it was a good idea to put it back into consideration after reading Martin's comment on the matter.
@jimmy, it's your post, so you're able to delete or undelete at will, but I wanted to let you know that I think it's a good idea to undelete it.
 
I concur. It is clear that at least a few people think it is acceptable on this site, which it (generally) isn't, and as such should be considered a standard loophole.
 
1:56 AM
@BrainSteel You should vote to undelete then. :)
 
I either don't know how or don't have the rep for it. (I just hit 3,000 this week, though! :D)
 
Congrats! :D
That's exciting.
I assume you can see deleted posts. Can you see red text that says "undelete"?
 
I can see the deleted post, but the undelete button is nowhere to be found.
 
Ah, okay.
 
I would if I could.
Ah, deletion and undeletion come at 4k.
 
2:11 AM
I was just about to say the same thing. :)
 
Some day...
 
You're getting close!
 
I've gotten 645 reputation since Martin posted that Programming Quiz challenge :D It's crazy how much attention my answer got.
 
It's really cool! I knew it was a BF variant but I don't know them very well so I didn't take the time to go through and test it in various interpreters.
I love that it prints "Gotcha!" in C. That's so awesome!
 
Hahaha, thank you! I spent a whole lot of time and effort obfuscating it, so I'm really happy people enjoyed!
 
2:16 AM
Hopefully you'll get a gold badge for it. You deserve it. :)
 
It's already been upvoted 3 times more than my next-best answer :P
 
Oh, the restaurant one! That one was really cool too.
 
I've been meaning to go back and play with it more... But I've said that about a lot of these challenges.
 
Sometimes I catch myself thinking that, but I know I'll never go back to anything that I posted longer than 2 days prior.
 
I always have the best of intentions. My first answer ever even has a statement starting with "I intend to edit this later..."
Well now I just feel guilty about it :P
 
2:32 AM
Haha
 
Oh wait, my first ever answer is actually a cracked cops-n-robbers challenge. I can't really edit that one, though.
 
@AlexA. I've voted to undelete.
 
@Dennis <3
 
@AlexA. By the way (since you're the one who asks about it), I received news today that my student aced the first half of her geometry test and is officially admitted to Algebra II! So I'm apparently not the worst teacher :P
 
@BrainSteel That's so exciting! That must make you feel good! :D I must say though, I'm not at all surprised.
 
2:43 AM
I'm pretty surprised, haha :D It does feel good.
 
Just added another answer to the Programming Language Quiz.
 
@BrainSteel So was she trying to skip a level in math or something? What was her purpose for taking a geometry exam to place into algebra 2?
 
She took Algebra I last year, and wanted to take Geometry over the summer to get into algebra 2 this year.
 
Ambitious kid. I'm glad it worked out for her.
 
Me too! She's a good student. My job wasn't too hard :)
 
2:49 AM
Does she want to follow in your footsteps and study math and electrical engineering in college?
 
I think I might have scared her away from EE when we talked about i :P She's definitely interested in taking more maths, and is thinking about engineering.
 
Pssh, there's nothing scary about i. Complex analysis was one of the best undergraduate classes I took.
The quaternion group is when i starts to become a little scary.
When i = sqrt(-1), j = sqrt(-1), k = sqrt(-1), but i != j != k.
 
I believe, upon solving some kind of quadratic, I pointed out that sqrt(-1) was useful for describing lots of things even if it doesn't technically exist, and that it had close relations to the "fun" trig functions we were using. She looked at me like I was an alien, and far too excited about a silly number.
I've heard of that group, but I do not yet know anything about it :D
 
Doesn't technically exist? R is just a subset of C, where i is alive and well.
 
Well, you can't really say that to your geometry student without derailing the lesson even more :P I can't remember precisely what I said, but it probably involved delicately skirting around the existence of i.
 
2:57 AM
"Listen, kid. There are a lot of numbers. A whole lot. But all of the numbers you know are just a tiny fraction of all of the numbers that can exist."
Then if she probes that any further, pretend like you don't speak English, get up, and leave.
 
That statement would probably terrify her. Though, we did do a solid bit of talking about random cool things that may-or-may-not have been geometric.
 
Did you teach her about birds and bees?
 
I did not. That would be very weird. I chose to discuss far cooler things, like a little bit of history of Pythagoras (and the irrationality of root 2), and some Fermat's Last Theorem dabbling, and some sum(1/2^k) = 1 stuff.
 
Cool? Sure. Cooler? I think not.
 
They were vaguely geometrically related... But not at all in the "curriculum."
Well, as far as talking to a high schooler about these things goes, it was definitely cooler from my perspective :P
 
3:04 AM
Haha
Is she going to seek your tutelage for future math classes?
 
I believe she's leaving in the winter time, so unless she needs help with algebra probably not.
 
Leaving like moving away?
 
Yeah, out of state.
 
Ah, okay.
Well you're moving to Washington for graduate school anyway, right? :P
 
You know, that might be a legitimate option. I may be able to squeeze my way into in-state tuition rates...
 
3:09 AM
If you would seriously consider the University of Washington for graduate school, most graduate programs in the sciences pay your tuition and a stipend but they require you to establish state residency within some time period so they don't have to pay out-of-state tuition for you.
 
My father worked in Seattle for some time, and I remember there was a way for me to establish residency there, but I forgot.
 
Oh he did? That's neat.
I don't know why he would want to leave. :P
 
Well, because he doesn't live there :P His job flew him out there for a couple months, and he came back when he was finished.
 
Ah, too bad.
 
Oddly though, both my parents did live there at one point in time. Seattle is where they met.
 
3:13 AM
Cool!
Have you been there?
 
No, I've never been. But I really want to go.
 
It's worth the trip. There's plenty to do and see for any interest you may have.
 
So I've heard :D As soon as I have an excuse to go, I'll be there. But it will probably have to wait a good chunk of time.
 
Yeah, I figured. I'd be happy to recommend all kinds of crap whenever you do make it up here.
 
Haha, I'd gladly go to all your recommended crap. We could have a very tiny PPCG meeting.
 
3:19 AM
That'd be great! AFAIK, I'm the only active PPCG user in the Pacific Northwest though.
So very tiny.
 
It's worth it. I'll bring everyone I know so it'll feel bigger.
 
Other PPCG users or just other people?
 
Just random folks who I can trick into flying to Seattle with me.
 
Perfect.
 
If I promise them food, I'm sure they won't care who you are or why I randomly know of someone in Washington.
 
3:24 AM
Food is the perfect motivator, especially if it's free.
 
@BetaDecay I can understand it but it takes some effort
 
@Mauris i've given you more work to do :)
 
I'm going to need more money.
 
Haha
 
3:37 AM
I'm heading off for the night. G'night!
 
Goodnight!
 
4:26 AM
0
Q: Vertically collapse text

TrebuchetteSay I have text like this: Programming Puzzles & Code Golf That makes no sense! It totally defies the laws of physics. Your challenge is to remedy this impossible situation and collapse the text like so: P Prog &uzz Coderam Golflesming With the least amount of source code possible.

 
4:37 AM
@AlexA. That's only one byte every 30 seconds. I'm a slow typist, but I'm not that slow. :P
 
5:07 AM
@AlexA. Seriously though, zipping an array of strings to collaps the columns is a common trick. I should add that to the tips question if it's not already there.
 
5:47 AM
0
Q: Sort a list of numbers on the λ-calculus

DokkatWrite a term on the pure untyped lambda calculus that, when applied to a church-encoded list of numbers, returns it with its numbers sorted in ascending or descending order. Example input: (λ cons nil . (cons (λ f x . (f x)) -- 1 (cons (λ f x . (f (f (f (f (f (f ...

 
@Dennis Reading the challenge, thinking of a solution, and implementing it in one of the few languages (all ill-suited for code golf) I know takes me well over 5 minutes. :P
 
User posts answer to own challenge immediately; refuses to compute actual score for his own answer; includes baity comment on how his answer will be the only one, so he's already the winner; undo's my edit removing his comment.
I'm not going to go in an argument or further edit wars to keep it civil - I'll let you handle it from here
 
Posts answer to own challenge immediately, IMO, not a big deal. It's a reference implementation. Ideally he should have waited but he's a pretty new user.
 
@AlexA. I don't know enough about lambda calculus to distinguish an obviously bad reference answer from a competitive one. Either way, posting a reference without computing its score is useless.
@AlexA. but I mainly take issue with the comment he put in his answer
 
The comment comes off a little pompous but it isn't really offensive.
 
6:03 AM
honestly, it comes off to me like a poor attempt at reverse psychology
 
@xnor hence I called it baity
 
@xnor What do you mean?
And what is "baity"? As in baiting for upvotes?
 
"the best way to get the right answer on the Internet is not to ask a question, it's to post the wrong answer."
@AlexA. it's baiting for answers
 
@AlexA. "Lambda calculus is too obscure, nobody is going to beat this" sounds like an attempt to get others to participate when they normally wouldn't
yes, baiting is a good word
 
Yeah, I suppose. I mean it certainly isn't a great thing to say but I don't see how it's really against any rules or codes of conduct.
 
6:23 AM
@AlexA. It was more like looking at the desired output (ignoring the rest of the post for the moment), remembering that zipping twice would solve the challenge if we had to move the elements to the top and typing 11 characters. :)
 
@Dennis The only way I could think of in the languages I know to move things around like that is manipulating matrices column- or row-wise like I did in my R submission.
My brain doesn't think in zips because I'm not familiar with languages that use them extensively. I've used zip in Julia maybe once.
 
@AlexA. Well, CJam's zip and Pyth's transpose are a bit special. In the non-golfing languages I know, zip behaves differently for non-rectangular arrays.
That's it for today. Good night everybody!
 
Goodnight!
 
6:38 AM
@orlp I thought the best way was to claim that it can't be done and threaten to use a different product/technology seen as inferior and revolting
 
6:55 AM
@Dennis not true for Pyth
@Dennis Pyth has not one, but three (!) transpose functions
one works like zip, one left-justifies, and one pads to rectangular shape
(C, .T and .t respectively)
 
what do non-golfing languages do?
 
7:43 AM
@orlp I think at this point the comments handle it fairly well and the sentence is gone from the answer. It probably also wasn't that big a deal to necessitate an immediate edit - I think I would have rather commented as well. I could imagine it would just meant light-heartedly but came off the wrong way.
 
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Q: Closing questions as not clear without giving feedback

Eduard FlorinescuI use the SE platform for some time and I know that in the spirit of this Q&A platform when someone is giving down-votes or close votes he should also provide some feedback to improve the question. My last question: Check all the keys of a keyboard was closed for not being clear. But if you l...

 
8:06 AM
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Beta DecayUp 12 at 4 it's... code-golf Introduction On BBC Radio 2, on Saturdays there's a show hosted by Tony Blackburn called Pick of the Pops. Here, Tony selects a random week from a random year (in the range 1960-1989), and plays the songs which were in the top 20 charts at the time. Challenge Giv...

Any feedback? :)
 
8:19 AM
@BetaDecay what prevents me from scraping that UK list website and turning it into a web service only for my golfed program?
 
8:33 AM
@orlp I see... I'll add some restrictions.
@orlp Restricted it to certain domains
 
@BetaDecay I can create a custom user page on wikipedia.
@BetaDecay tbh I think your better off dumping the entire webpage scraping idea, and just provide the data in some text format on stdin
 
8:48 AM
@MartinBüttner I was going to test Labyrinth, but the lack of docs is making things hard :P
 
@orlp That's a lot of data :P
 
I'll be adding more examples in a bit, but I won't get around to writing docs before tonight
and I'd like to settle on which operators to include before writing the docs
 
@MartinBüttner Frankly, I'm rather disappointed that you haven't worked David Bowie into your code ;)
 
For now, I guess it'll be learning-to-read-Ruby
 
8:50 AM
@BetaDecay I did consider making the name of the language a reference to the film, but I just really like the word Labyrinth so I kept that
 
@MartinBüttner Haha it's a cool name whatever
 
@Sp3000 added 3 more example programs
 
Oh # is the no-op... hmm
 
yeah, I changed that around
I might reassign some operators before declaring the language ready ^^
 
I dunno, # looks a bit... heavy to be a no-op IMO :P
 
8:57 AM
yeah, but . and _ were already gone :P
 
Hm...
 
@Sp3000 added 1-based Fibonacci... I've gotta head out now though. have fun playing around with it and let me know if you've got any questions
 
9:29 AM
Only a few hours til we have our first safe quiz cop...
 
 
1 hour later…
10:53 AM
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Q: Up 12 at 4 it's

Beta DecayIntroduction On BBC Radio 2, on Saturdays there's a show hosted by Tony Blackburn called Pick of the Pops. Here, Tony selects a random week from a random year (in the range 1960-1989), and plays the songs which were in the top 20 charts at the time. Challenge Given a list of songs played on on...

 
11:10 AM
Why was this:
closed as too broad?
I understand the downvotes but not the close :P
 
11:45 AM
I'm pretty sure Sp3000's quiz entry is a 2d language, but I can't figure out which one...
 
12:05 PM
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Q: Number of domino tilings

orlpWrite a program or function that given positive n and m calculates the number of valid distinct domino tilings you can fit in a n by m rectangle. You may take input in as function argument(s), CLA or on stdin, in any reasonable format. You must return or print a single integer as output. Each ti...

 
12:44 PM
@BrainSteel So this is what happens during the weekends when I don't check in with the chat. Shoulda known.
 
1:07 PM
This looks rather different than last year's results meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/5759/18487
I can't seem to picture Geobits in anything except for a fedora
 
grc
@Sp3000 have you tried it in evil?
 
Yes
 
grc
well done :)
 
I finally got around to doing the esolangs with a Java interpreter -_-
 
grc
I bet you knew all along and were just waiting until it was almost safe :P
 
1:14 PM
:P I wish - I knew the language from 95 ASCII, but didn't actually know it'd work. Kept anything alphanumeric bookmarked though
Did you have fun with the base64 btw? Making the decoded also (basically) alphanumeric was very distracting
 
grc
haha yeah I made most of the base64 to only decode to lowercase letters to get the base64 to look 'natural'
^ if that sentence made any sense
 
:) nice work
 
Wow, an hour (or less) before being safe.. :P
 
grc
:/
 
@Sp3000 awesome work, now do the next one! Oh wait, it's yours ... and I already failed it ><
@grc that was quite evil :p
 
1:27 PM
hi guys, need some help: What is the command for syntax highlighting codesnippets for matlab?
 
Go go gadget syntax highlight?
 
@aditsu My goal is still to let no cop pass, but at this rate I'll have no sleep by the end of the week :/ Help? :D
 
well, you can reveal the answer to somebody privately :p
 
2:02 PM
me!
 
@aditsu Python, e.g., truncates. zip([1,2],[3]) gives [(1, 3)].
 
I see.. that's so mean :p
 
You can use the map(None,...) trick to get around it in Python, at least.
 
@Dennis btw your answer is next in line to get cracked (by Sp or me)
 
The closest I've gotten to Dennis' 77 is: Almost works in 0(nop^) (got instead: '\x00Hello, World')
:/
 
2:07 PM
@Rainbolt Just a fedora? Can I at least cover myself with it instead of wearing it properly?
 
Okay. Windows 10 then?
10bits
 
Just two bits?
 
Decabits?
 
How do you know it's not 3bits?
 
I dunno, when I think 'bits' I think binary 0/1.
Ternary should be something terrible like trits.
 
2:10 PM
I don't think r would be there
 
Maybe if you're going for a Total Recall thing.
 
Binary takes first two characters. Ternary should do similar.
tets
 
@Sp3000 Great! Now all I have to do is remember which language I used. (Seriously, it was a week ago, and I've seen a lot of languages recently.)
 
terts?
 
2:12 PM
The standard word is trits.
 
@aditsu Team up? :D What's the plan?
 
Cool, my semilogical guess was right :)
 
@aditsu If that's your plan, you better hurry up! :P
 
@Sp3000 I'm trying to crack it myself for now
 
@Dennis Found it!
@aditsu You should totally drop that and crack Sp3000's.
 
2:14 PM
I already failed my guess though..
 
:(
 
but you're welcome to crack it :)
 
:/ prefix notation languages are hard to find - so many stack-based ones
 
With Sp3000 safe at 39 bytes and him not letting anyone else through...
Believe me, I've tried.
 
I dunno if I can get the 36s - might run out of steam
 
2:17 PM
Crack those, but leave the 27 alone. :P
 
@Dennis well, recruit Jimmy and Martin to help you
haha I found a funny language
"GET THE TOP ELEMENT OF THE STACK AND CONVERT IT TO AN ASCII CHARACTER AND OUTPUT IT FOR THE CURRENT PERSON USING THIS PROGRAM TO SEE"
 
I found a funny language too: link. In a sense, this would have been near impossible to crack.
 
@Sp3000 not if you are willing to travel a lot
 
@Geobits Gross
 
You said it :P
 
2:24 PM
I never said I wasn't gross
 
Fair enough then.
 
2:40 PM
Hrmpf, I found a crack for a cop answer, but the website that hosted the interpreter disappeared. :/
Well, it's probably for the best. That language would have been worse than Foo...
 
That's how I felt with Tiny until I found one :P
 
Lol. One of the folks in the Board and Card Games chat thinks I'm a female
Is it creepy to just go with it?
 
not if you really are
 
Okay
 
2:56 PM
Tell the person what you actually are.
A block of dirt :P
 
Correction: I am not a block of dirt. I am a Grass Block.
 
are my challenges too hard?
I often get a low amount of answers
 
no idea, link me one
 
If you mean domino tilings, it looks okay
 
a lot have a healthy number of answers (3-4+)
but there are quite some with 0-2
 
2:58 PM
Convex polygon's definitely on the harder side of things
 
I had one guy start posting theories instead of a real answer once: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/25203/18487
 
@Rainbolt A block of dirt with green hair and three red-green antenna then :P
 
@Sp3000 I'll give you that one
 
I dunno, which ones are you thinking of in particular? The amount of answers looks pretty normal to me
 
Doesn't look worse than mine, especially if you remove my top-voted KotH.
 
For three of those: 1) I don't play Hearthstone, so it didn't interest me much 2) I've mostly avoided the whole GOLF cpu thing 3) Eww, AES. This is not to say these are bad in any way, just that they didn't capture my interest.
 
ok
 
I'm new to Code Golf and your questions are kind of hard compared to what I tried so far. Maybe I will tackle your questions in a few weeks ;)
 
creeper explodes, we all die
 
AES: I don't know much about it, so that would require research. Unique outputs: Getting an algorithm is okay, getting a good one is hard. Factoring: Yeah, learning GOLF. Hearthstone: Looked complicated at first glance, and I've never played the game
 
3:05 PM
I'll see if I can make an easy question
 
@BetaDecay I'm too far away to explode I guess because you are all alive :D
 
Well, and you are, so that makes it pretty clear.
 
:P
@Optimizer Who's the guy with the skull on his chest?
Never heard of anyone called removed...
 
hmm, thinking of doing a challenge where shared substrings must be reversed
but it's probably a duplicate again :(
 
3:10 PM
I answered three Questions so far ... and on two "axiac" humiliated me in php ... this sucks :D
 
@BetaDecay Punisher
 
@jrenk I love your about me :D
 
@BetaDecay haha thanks :) I have a T-Shirt with this "slogan" and when I wear it to work everyone looks at me like "What is wrong with him?"
 
@jrenk Hahah where'd you get it? :D
 
@BetaDecay I printed it myself at Spreadshirt ... (I guess it's a german only website) :(
 
3:19 PM
@Beta For curiosity's sake, why did you make this question a popcon? codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/55239/14215
It seems like a pretty straightforward thing to grab/parse/search. I'm not sure what creative/popular entries would look like.
 
It was to get around the fact that I, if it was a code golf, I'd have to create the file of all of the charts
Which, considering I'd have to go through each chart for every week in each year between '60 and '89, seemed rather hard
But it seems I'll have to do it with a pop con
 
Too bad we don't have, like, machines that can perform tedious, repetitious tasks for us.
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Alright... Since it seems that this task is best suited for Javascript, how do you get JS to write to a file?
 
Since it seems that this task is best suited for Javascript... <- famous last words
:P
 
Haha I could always download the files using Python and do it in XSLT
 
3:31 PM
@BetaDecay You need to learn UNIX. wget, sed, grep, and bash should be all you need.
BTW, congratulations to @Martin on the t-shirt
3
 
@PeterTaylor So you're suggesting I regex for the song names?
 
Ish. More for the stuff which wraps the songs names.
Which you then remove with sed.
 
@PeterTaylor wait what? anybody who posts something gets swag?
 
Damn it's the Alex A thing all over again
 
Or anyone whose answer is referenced by someone else. I'm sure there's a whole black market being set up right now.
 
3:38 PM
It does seem a bit odd to just pick a post and get swag, but a lot of the answers mentioned (so far) really are swag-worthy.
 
they will give out 1000s of swag collections?
 
@PeterTaylor "If you're the author of the answer, you get both prizes."
 
@aditsu Just checking, I can post now - yes?
 
so I just need to find a post I'm proud of and write about it?
 
we all can post.
you get a swag, I get a swag, everybody gets a swag!
 
3:40 PM
they're gonna go bankrupt this way
 
> In today's news, online network Stack Exchange has filed for bankruptcy after giving out millions of swag kits to anyone who asks for one. Joel Spolsky was quoted as saying "Fuck it, this was awesome."
5
 
totally worth bankruptcy
 
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A: If a program terminates and there is no one to see it, does it halt?

Beta DecayPython 3 - 49 This does something useful: calculates Pi to unprecedented accuracy using the Gregory-Leibniz infinite series. Just in case you were wondering, this program loops 10**10**10**2.004302604952323 times. sum([4/(i*2+1)*-1**i for i in range(1e99**1e99)]) Arbitrary precision: 78 fro...

↑ Me, me
 
> We will do it over again.
 
FYI it doesn't actually calculate Pu correctly :P
 
3:41 PM
I think it has to be a StackOverflow answer, not a PPCG one.
 
Damn it :/
 
Wait, I have a great story of that time when two thousand wolves fought each other to the death, and I don't get to share it?
 
@Sp3000 congrats
 
I was nervous someone would notice the significance of your guess D:
 
What does Sp3000 stand for?
 
3:44 PM
(Space Pilot 3000 - Futurama)
 
Cool
Who was the person with Fry as their avatar?
 
@Sp3000 I was surprised nobody tried to follow through
anyway, I haven't heard of TRANSCRIPT before
 
I haven't heard of Inform 7 before :P (pretty cool, btw)
 
that prime checker looks really funky
 
Half of it is irrelevant, and just for fun :P
In any case, I'm heading off now, so I guess I'll have to let Dennis' off the hook :/ (or leave it up to you guys :P)
 
3:58 PM
Does this give any output for you?
 
@BetaDecay doesn't wget save to a file?
I think you can do "wget -o -" or use curl
or maybe it was "-O -"
 
Yeah, wget -qO-
Perfect :D
 
4:24 PM
I'd always recommend curl over wget. Wget has some strange bugs...
 
Okay, I'll keep that in mind
 
@Sp3000 I think I give up...
 
I like that plan. :)
15 minutes to go. This is exciting!
 
I really hope it's something I haven't heard of
 
@Dennis what answer?
 
4:38 PM
@aditsu I know what you mean. If visited the esolang page of one answer Sp3000 cracked later and even used the same language as another post (also cracked by Sp3000).
 
It looks like it's Polish notation... So not Golfscript or CJam
 
@orlp quick, you have 12 min
 
meh
 
(Why didn't that link get inlined?)
 
it didn't
 
4:40 PM
I have a cool challenge
but I don't know how I can clearly explain it
without ambiguity
 
challengeBody.replaceAll("ambiguity","");
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

orlpA backwards relationship Write a program or function that given two ASCII strings will reverse the common substrings inside them. Common substrings are greedily searched from left to right. Examples: "hello test", "test banana" -> "hello tset", "tset banana" "abcde", "abcd bcde" -> "dcbae", "d...

 
@orlp explain it to your grandma first
 
I have a dead grandma, so this is going to be very tedious.
 
@Geobits 'nod if you didn't understand that grandma'
 
4:43 PM
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

orlpA backwards relationship Write a program or function that given two ASCII strings will reverse the common substrings inside them. Common substrings are greedily searched from left to right. Examples: "hello test", "test banana" -> "hello tset", "tset banana" "abcde", "abcd bcde" -> "dcbae", "d...

 
Hmm. It doesn't seem all that ambiguous to me, but maybe I'm missing some corner cases.
 
@Geobits "abcde", "abcd bcde" -> "dcbae", "dcba edcb" can you explain that?
 
In my head I can (it makes sense given the task). I'm not sure how to clearly explain it in prose, but that's the point of using example inputs/outputs IMO.
For the first, the longest matching substring (from left) is abcd, so it reverses, leaving the e alone.
 
Safe! \o/
2
 
4:51 PM
NOOOOOOOOO
 
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
@Dennis congrats; also, I'm relieved :)
 
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO‌​OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
sadjkghadskgjhreksjgheksjrvkjlsa3h978y2032qvrq8932ny0vg8r2343h vwop98tqbnyn29vp3o7t4iou
 
@Dennis willl u reveal now?
 
4:52 PM
@Optimizer no
 
In the second, it matches abcd agin and reverses it. Then the bcde matches and reverses.
 
he's a robber
 
@Optimizer UNBAPTIZED
 
he got away
 
calm down, he's not winning
 
4:53 PM
how do we know if it was a valid solution?
 
@BetaDecay UNBABTIZED
 
@Optimizer #faith
 
that is not a thing
 
(by the way I was joking)
 
are you a belieber?
 
4:53 PM
(of course he should reveal)
 
Come on Dennis. Flash!
 
(defun orlp-belieber? (quote no))
 
@Dennis What do the full stops do?
 
Well it isn't safe unless it's revealed so I assumed him yelling Safe! was a good indicator he was revealing :)
 
@BetaDecay They're statement separators, like semicolons in C.
 
4:54 PM
@Optimizer are you blind or something?
 
no, I just dont have main open right now
 
he answered in here too
 
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A: The Programming Language Quiz

DennisUNBABTIZED, 77 bytes $0,0 .:72 .:101 .:108 .:108 .:111 .:44 .:32 .:87 .:111 .:114 .:108 .:100 .:33 Verification You can find the official website and interpreter here. As noted on the website, the interpreter was written for Python 2.2, which allowed non-ASCII characters in source code. You ...

 
its very hard to figure out that was a language for anyone who is not following.
 
It's cruel choosing an Esolang stub too :P
 
4:56 PM
cruel smart
 
I don't get it, why do non-ASCII characters matteR?
 
Peter and Sp3000 did the same. Makes things a lot more difficult.
 
@PeterTaylor I've given up hope
@PeterTaylor every challenge I make is always a duplicate of something :(
and it's nigh impossible to find them unless you hit the right keywords
 
@feersum Since version 2.3 (I think), Python doesn't allow non-ASCII character in source code without specifying an encoding.
 
why is that important?
 

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