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5:00 PM
@totallyhuman proceeds to downvote everything you post cry in the corner
 
Anonymous
@Christopher That wasn't funny the first 20 times you tried to make that joke
10
 
Anonymous
Three dashes for strikeout text
 
@Mego oh yeah, well <s> tags don't work
Ah thanks,
 
~strike~ doesn't either
~~strike~~ doesn't either
 
This is why markdown perturbs me
there doesn't seem to be a standard that is followed
 
5:10 PM

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...
@MDXF those aren't dashes. :P
 
@ThomasWard They're not supposed to be. ~~strike~~ is markdown for strikethrough almost everywhere else
--strikethrough-- ?
 
@MDXF there's at least ten variants of Markdown in various flavors. This is SE markdown :P
 
Still :P
 
@MDXF If you click the "help" button on the bottom right it will give you some hints
 
Wait... does strikeout works on posts?
 
5:15 PM
Anyone know why Taylor Scott is necroing so many old challenges just to add lang tags to them?
 
@MDXF That would require SE markdown to be sane
 
Exactly
 
You use <s> ... </s> in posts
 
Does anyone in here know MATL?
 
I've worked in it a couple times for challenges but no real experience
 
5:30 PM
Does anyone here have experience with ChatExchange?
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Banning certain types of operations is not a source restriction its an algorithm restriction
 
@Mayube Actually, the hello world for Decimal is not just Hello, World!, but it's close
Speaking of Decimal... anyone know how I can add a language to esolangs.org?
 
yes
you just register and create a page for it, add the categories, add it to the language list, you're good to go
registration is the only tricky part--lots of steps
 
Yeah, I have to know Befunge :O
 
0
Q: Generate a Texting Dictionary

ChristopherOld fashioned cell phones were and are used heavily as texting platforms, unfortunately the keyboard has only 12 + a few buttons, and is therefor ill-suited to naive text entry. Common solutions make use of the traditional telephone coding (generally with a modest extension for 'q' and 'z'): 2:...

 
5:38 PM
@MDXF not a bad thing to know befunge, if I do say so myself
 
@MistahFiggins I'm not arguing with that, I just generally like to answer challenges in C, my languages, or if it's a quine challenge, whatever I can
So I've never really had any reason to learn it
 
yeah.
 
Can someone send a link to the page where I create an esolang?
 
If you search an page that doesn't exist it will promopt you to make one
 
26 of my 38 answers are Befunge answers
something like that
 
5:41 PM
110 of my 178 are in CJam
 
yeah MD, just search for the name of your language
 
Oh thanks
Does esolang.org support Markdown?
 
so I have a (java) programming dilemma: I have separated input handling and graphics handling for my game into separate classes from the main one, and I have fields that I want to be mutable for one but no the other. Is there a way to only return not-a-deep-copy if a method is called from a certain class?
 
Doesn't look like it does. How do I include code snippets?
 
it supports standard wikimedia markdown
check the help guide
 
5:44 PM
Yup just did that, but I can't see anything on code blocks
 
of course you can do code blocks
i believe one space at the beginning of a line
there's a button that does it for you
 
I'll try that, thanks
How about inline code?
 
i don't know. never tried. probably should take any further such questions to the esoteric programming languages room, or #esoteric on Freenode.
 
actually, I can probably just make it so that the 2 separate classes never need to modify anything, just return commands or display stuff
 
92 of my 318 answers are Jelly
 
5:49 PM
Not sure if I'm being trolled by JavaScript. Is this a real error message...?
> SyntaxError: unexpected garbage after function body, starting with '}'
 
I don't think I've used any language in over 40 submissions
 
> garbage
seriously? your effort is considered garbage?
 
at least it thinks you were capable of more
would be worse if it were "expected garbage"
 
Does sound more like a human message than a compiler message, but a quick search suggests it's a real error...
 
solution: keep away from JS. who am I kidding it's required for web development
 
5:52 PM
fun fact: all error messages have originally been written by humans
 
@JanDvorak Hm... CMC: Disprove this
 
CMC: rotate text 45 degrees to the right
e.g. Hello:
H
 e
  l
   l
    o
 
@EriktheOutgolfer If that was the input, would it have to print:
H
l
e
l
o
?
 
no it would be a really long output
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Ok, that makes it easier
 
5:57 PM
why the heck is cmc starred?
 
CJam, 12 bytes: qee[S1]f.*N*
 
@MDXF actually you can assume printable ascii
 
Probably a better way
 
so that would never be the input :)
 
@EriktheOutgolfer ASCII 10 doesn't qualify as printable?
 
5:58 PM
0x0a isn't printable by definition
 
So that explains the bug with my code-formatter :P
It used isprint but never did newlines
*duh*
 
0x20-0x7e are printable
Charcoal, 3 bytes: ↷¹θ
@BusinessCat nice one
 
Again, anyone know where I can get support for ChatExchange?
 
sorry, no, I have no experience with ChatExchange
 
I'm trying to play with it but it's just giving me an error that looks like a bug on their side
 
6:07 PM
6
Q: Fabulous glamour shot

Bassdrop Cumberwubwubwub Found this picture on the web today. Being a lazy programmer, I don't want to actually open google and type a couple of characters. Way too much work! This is such an important task that it should be automated. Challenge Everyone knows that the first image in a google search result is always...

 
Can I get some feedback on this?
 
Ok, I think I fixed it. There should be some tests to make sure it works when you're not logged in
 
Question: Why must we describe close votes but not reopen votes?
 
@Lembik now I'm back, had dinner
 
6:15 PM
0
Q: Martin vs Dennis - Round 2: Numbers, Divisibility and Sequences

Mr. XcoderThis is Round 2 in a series of challenges involving "the two best code-golfers in the world right now", Dennis♦︎︎︎ and Martin Ender♦︎︎︎. Here is Round 1, but these are different challenges, independent of each other. As most of you know, Dennis' user id is 12012 and Martin's is 8478. There are...

 
6:27 PM
this appeared in my Google feed, but clicking on it now after several dies leads me to a 404
 
google cache?
 
ah, there it is, thanks
I agree with the first part of the repo
 
@orlp hi
 
hi
 
6:32 PM
@KritixiLithos what are you talking about, go is great
it's totally even better for golfing
 
I don't know Go, so I can't judge it yet
 
Gahh, I hate how only issues get raised when you post
 
dude
we all know the sandbox is crap
let's find a solution pls
> soulution
@totallyhuman just to see the syntax :P
 
@Lembik ?
 
6:40 PM
@orlp so...
consider two strings, one of length 2n-1 (B) and one of length n (A)
we can find all the positions where A matches in B
 
binary strings I presume...
:P
 
of course :)
we can represent the output as a binary array. A 1 if there is an exact match and a 0 otherwise
taken over all strings A and B we could count how many possible output arrays there are
(is it clear so far?)
 
yeah
 
ok.. but that would be too easy :)
(the answer is n^2 ln n asymptotically)
so.. let's instead of computing where there is an exact match, report where the Hamming distance is exactly x, for some x specified as part of the question
 
Hehe. The $15 or so of Bitcoin donations I got to the old PPCG Minecraft Server are now worth $164
 
6:46 PM
erm
 
@HelkaHomba I have 0.5 BTC
 
mathjax
 
@orlp so.. is there any x apart from 0 and n for which we can compute the answer?
 
for example, x = 1 ?
 
6:46 PM
@Lembik compute yes, closed form ehh
also now we have a three input function
 
well.. a big O answer is fine too
 
(A, B, x)
 
A and B aren't really in the input
as we are iterating over all A and B
so it's n and x
those are the two arguments
 
I dno, it feels a bit too contrived for me
too high dimensional
 
@orlp donate me some and I'll write an orlp based challenge
I wonder if that's against SEs TOS...
 
6:48 PM
@HelkaHomba I'm sure that even if I wanted to that violates some site rule :P
 
@HelkaHomba o_O
Impressive
 
@orlp so .. it tells you how much you can compress the outputs. Imagine you have a string of length n and another of length 2n-1 and we want to compress it so that you can still answer the question "Is the Hamming distance exactly 3 at alignment i"
this tells you how small the data structure could be
so it's really a compression bound
if that makes it sound more interesting :)
 
@DJMcMayhem that's why you do not use btc for anything serious, so fluctuating e-currency
 
@orlp Seems like if the content is good they couldn't complain too much
 
@Lembik I'm sorry, I don't feel the urge :P
 
6:52 PM
@orlp no problem!
I will put a bounty on the 3^(n-2) question when I can :)
 
I'm finally fighting the Ender Dragon in my Sideways World series :D
 
@HelkaHomba that took a while >_>
 
that's a neat trick with the water
 
7:08 PM
CMC: Display the hacker logo in ASCII art:
_|*|_
_|_|*
*|*|*
 
@DJMcMayhem Something tells me that's based off codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/123797/61563
 
Yes
Actually, that's a poor CMC because it's not very compressible
 
∧, maybe a larger ascii-art version would be better
 
@DJMcMayhem And it's really boring: puts("_|*|_\n_|_|*\n*|*|*");
 
Jelly is 14 bytes...
...actual text is 17 bytes
:/
368ṃ⁾_*s3j€”|Y
 
7:14 PM
 
If you send an invalid CSRF token is the proper HTTP response code a 400 or a 403
 
Alright, maybe this would be a better CMC.
 
This philosophical question brought to you in part by...
 
Given two coords x and y, create an ASCII art grid of 10x10 and put the glider at those coords.
For example, 0, 1 should give:
 
@DJMcMayhem can you please clear the star off my cmc?
 
7:17 PM
|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
|_|*|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
|_|_|*|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
|*|*|*|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
X and Y will always be in 0-7
@EriktheOutgolfer Done
 
thanks :)
stars definitely don't belong on cmc
 
38 bytes: Try it online!
That can probably be golfed down though
 
2
Q: Display the Hacker Logo

MD XFYou may have heard of the "Hacker Logo", also called the "Hacker Emblem". It looks like this: This is a pattern from a mathematical simulation called the Game of Life. The glider is the simplest Life pattern that moves, and the most instantly recognizable of all Life patterns. The challenge ...

 
@NewMainPosts that took a while :P
 
There we go, 35: Try it online!
 
7:27 PM
@MDXF He's trying his best
 
Who runs that bot?
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Stephen SDoes the nth char in a string equal the nth from last char in the string? code-golf string Inspired by Does the start equal the end Given a string s and an integer n, output a truthy/falsey as to whether the nth char in s equals the nth from the end char in s. Input A non-empty string and an...

 
@DJMcMayhem huh? i|<esc>10<M-q>i_| doesn't work
__________|||||||||||
oh what nvm
I should've been using append not insert
yeah that was the issue
 
Down to 33 now: Try it online!
I don't know if I can get much more off
 
@MDXF it's a stackexchange thing
nobody runs it
 
7:38 PM
Oh okay, is that why we can't @mention it?
 
real question is how it manages to get negative user id
 
@EriktheOutgolfer The community user has id -1....
 
and nsp is -278
I can get -1, it's the first valid id, and then is 1, but -278?
maybe created by SE employees
 
@HelkaHomba I think I have a series to marathon-watch :-D
 
waiiiiit
you get mod tools at 2000 rep?
 
7:52 PM
On ungraduated sites I believe so, dunno about graduated ones
 
Userids count away from zero. Each new positive one is one higher, each new negative one is one lower (larger negative)
The numbers have become quite large because any room owner can create a feed in any room
 

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