The Nineteenth Byte

Nathan Merrill

2:00 AM

for example, if the edge chosen was A to D

trichoplax

@Downgoat Excuse my uncontrollable laughter

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Nathan Merrill

we could just start at A, and end at D

it doesn't enforce the path

Helka Homba

@Downgoat ditto

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Downgoat

@HelkaHomba gg

Nathan Merrill

but say we chose A->B and A->D

trichoplax

2:01 AM

@NathanMerrill Ah - I was thinking minimal number of edges - I misread

Nathan Merrill

if we are to traverse that, we have to traverse every edge

actually, Hamiltonian path isn't what I'm thinking of

Eulerian path

trichoplax

Is Hamiltonian every node and Eulerian every edge?

Nathan Merrill

its pretty trivial to see that the number of edges is always going to be at least 2, unless there's only 1 edge

@trichoplax yes

because one path will need to enforce the "start", and the other the "finish"

I know its not a digraph, oh well

I'm not sure how important that part is

A, C, E, G, I, K

I know that enforces a hamiltonian path

but I don't know if can be improved on

Helka Homba

@EasternBits :O

RidiculouslyNicebits

@HelkaHomba Hmm. Do you prefer Helky or Homby?

Helka Homba

2:14 AM

Helkie

RidiculouslyNicebits

So Homby it is then? Got it :P

El'endia Starman

Helkie Hombie!

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Nathan Merrill

is there a term for a traversal that never uses the same edge (but doesn't necessarily use every edge)?

oh, found it

"Trail"

on math.SE, is it better to explain mathy terms, or be terse?

(like Trail and Eulerian circuit)

Bits

Wow, that's the actual term used?

Nathan Merrill

yep

Downgoat

2:22 AM

@NathanMerrill math people like greek letters so don't forget to use those unnecessarily

Nathan Merrill

-.-

Downgoat

halp, how tail call optimize

Bits

You can call Optimizer with just your tail? Sorry, no idea exactly how that's done.

Maltysen

@Downgoat very effciency, much calling tails

@Downgoat idk, but I would guess you detect if a function call itself on the last line of itself, then rewrite the function as a while loop or something

Downgoat

@Maltysen seems difficult

I'll do it ~~never~~ later

Maltysen

2:26 AM

@Downgoat never is usually fine

wait, are you implementing the stack, etc yourself?

of course!

oooh, found a bug!

squish it!

@NathanMerrill eewww,kill it (wait, in my code?)

Nathan Merrill

no, in SE

writing a meta post right now

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

2:29 AM

@HelkaHomba It looks wrong to me. How many spaces before each bar? (|)

Downgoat

oh okay, good :P

Bits

10

A: How to avoid toddlers on a long-distance plane flight?

For a mere $160000, you can hire a private jet for London - LAX return which is a similar trip length to that of San Francisco. Source: http://www.privatefly.com/us/private-flights/how-much-does-a-private-flight-cost

Eastern Bits

@Bits do you support bitcoin btw?

Quill

For just "Bits", you're getting awfully Geo there

Bits

-_-

Eastern Bits

2:32 AM

@HelkaHomba rekt

Bits

@EasternBits I made a thousand bucks or so with bitcoin some time back, but I'm not a big advocate or anything, and I don't have any now.

Eastern Bits

okay

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Either way, here's my 22-byte V answer:

2"apé_o | ÄÄjÓ /-
Lo/ \

I think I win just cause nobody else answered.

Bits

In most chatrooms I'd think your cat just jumped on your keyboard.

Downgoat

@MarsUltor multiline comments in cheddar are causing infinite loops :/

Eastern Bits

2:35 AM

i'll help?

Bits

@Downgoat I think that means they're not comments. If that helps >_>

Eastern Bits

@Downgoat?

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

@EasternBits Your name changed.

Eastern Bits

Reddit is down.

Downgoat

@EasternBits idk if you know the cheddar classes though

Eastern Bits

2:36 AM

true

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ yes

Nathan Merrill

bah

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

@Bits I don't have a cat.

Nathan Merrill

just found that my post is a duplicate

Bits

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ I don't either, but I assume most dogs don't do it. Mine does from time to time, but he's, uhhhh, special.

Nathan Merrill

er, maybe not

nevermind, its actually an imgur bug

Downgoat

2:38 AM

@Bits solution: get a goat. It doesn't jump on your keyboard and it's a tasty dinner

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat Tasty, you say...hmmm....

himarm jr

I like this name a lot.

@Bits special?

Bits

Ok, everyone. Please remember this as the day when Downgoat admitted goats are tasty.

himarm jr

Like he lives in your purse?

Downgoat

@Bits :|

himarm jr

2:38 AM

@Bits he means the milk.

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

@Downgoat You say that goats don't jump on keyboards, and yet here you are...

Downgoat

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ we use our hooves like civilized animals

himarm jr

Goat milk is good, and goat cheese is almost as good as cheddar.

Downgoat

^

himarm jr

@Downgoat are you on your ipad again?

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

2:39 AM

Which kind of cheddar?

Downgoat

@himarmjr no :|

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ cheddar cheddar

El'endia Starman

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ Downgoat themself doesn't jump on keyboards. They type (clumsily) on them.

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Woah, you changed your name again. O_O

Maltysen

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ oooooh idea v

@Downgoat make your lang cheddar sharp (get it, c# and sharp cheddar)

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Yezzz?

Downgoat

2:39 AM

Cheddar:T_REPL> if (avocad) { juic() }
Symbol(er_UNEXPECTED_TOKEN)

D:

himarm jr

what i do

Bits

@himarmjr Yea, for some reason he occasionally jumps on my freaking desk when I'm not home. I have no idea how to stop it, since he never does it when I'm here.

himarm jr

reddit is down

ppcg is dead

@Bits lol

our dog likes the couch only when we aren't home.

Downgoat

Ba Dum Tss!

►

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Bits

2:42 AM

@himarmjr The couch I can understand. My desk isn't exactly comfortable like a couch though. It's not even like he rummages through the stuff on the desk either.

It looks like he just hops up here, steps on some random keys (which often make it to TNB), knocks over my speaker, and hops down :/

Quill

you should take the legs of the desk so next time he does it the desk breaks

Bits

Hmm. It's probably not worth replacing both monitors.

Zach Gates

@HelkaHomba We've had this discussion

@Downgoat Yes, I am :)

himarm jr

@Bits huh

@Bits lol

next tmie let us know the messages he sends

@ZachGates any particular reason why?

Bits

Oh, they're all in the transcript. He seems to like the numpad in particular. Usually it's something like 0.+

Quill

2:46 AM

don't worry @ZachGates, the only reason we have against you is that darn "Python" you code in, like wtf

Downgoat

15 hours ago, by Leaky Nun

Jelly, 16 bytes: ’Ñ;W$\nÇ0R¤⁸?\nÇŒṘ

Zach Gates

@himarmjr Who are you rooting for?

Downgoat

@LeakyNun seems to be having the same problem with his dog :P

Zach Gates

@Quill ;)

Bits

Jan 27 at 20:09, by Geobits

/.;,0.

Sep 25 '15 at 16:44, by Geobits

+0.

Downgoat

2:47 AM

@TanMath ಠ_ಠ

Bits

Sep 25 '15 at 16:45, by Geobits

The dog is starting to make sense when he types. This is scary.

Downgoat

is this a bad joke because I answer in JavaScript ಠ_ಠ

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat That's the number of the Imp.

Nathan Merrill

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Q: Minimum number of paths needed to enforce a Eularian Path

Given a graph $G$ with at least 1 Eulerian Path (a path that travels every edge exactly once). I would like to find the minimal number of edges that, if traversed as a Trail (an edge is never repeated), implies a Eulerian Path. For example, in the following graph: We need two edges: $[1, 4]$...

himarm jr

@ZachGates idk

Downgoat

2:53 AM

@NathanMerrill -1 not enough greek letters

himarm jr

prolly bernie, because it stops me from making a important decision.

Nathan Merrill

sorry :)

El'endia Starman

> [an] Eulerian

Nathan Merrill

ah, fixed the spelling

Downgoat

@himarmjr ;_; why is your vote not for Chatgoat or Marky

Nathan Merrill

2:53 AM

not the grammar

actually, is it [an]?

El'endia Starman

Not with brackets, no.

Zach Gates

@himarmjr Are you a fan of giving things to people who don't deserve them?

Nathan Merrill

when I say it out loud, I say "a eularian"

himarm jr

@Downgoat o_O you didn't know marky v2.0 = chatgoat v3.0 = bernie

Nathan Merrill

just like "a unicycle"

himarm jr

2:54 AM

@ZachGates No, but I am in favor of supporting them and helping them progress.

El'endia Starman

Well, "Euler" is pronounced like "oiler", which starts with a vowel sound, hence "an".

Zach Gates

@himarmjr ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I can't agree there

El'endia Starman

Euclid is the one that starts like "yoo", like unicycle. :P

Maltysen

@Downgoat because both of them will consume their constituents into their vast demon souls if they get elected

himarm jr

@ZachGates that's fine

Nathan Merrill

2:55 AM

oh, so I'm mispronouncing :)

himarm jr

but what about The Wall and such?

Zach Gates

@himarmjr Agreed

Downgoat

@Maltysen that's just marky

El'endia Starman

@NathanMerrill It's an extremely common mistake. I was corrected in 9th grade or so by my math teacher. :P

Maltysen

@himarmjr play.google.com/store/apps/…

himarm jr

2:56 AM

@Maltysen play.google.com/store/apps/…

orlp

@El'endiaStarman not in dutch

Bits

@Maltysen Wow the reviews...

> Lmfao I got the game just to let you know a girl will never be president if the was there would be a world war every month lmfao no im not a sexist but its not gonna happen

Maltysen

the games pretty well done though, I have it

El'endia Starman

@Bits Not a sexist? Pffft. :P

Alex A.

@Bits This just makes me sad

orlp

2:57 AM

@AlexA. don't be

they're just trolls lol

Bits

A lot of the reviews aren't so bad now that I look at more. That was the first one listed though (sorted by "helpfulness", sadly) :/

Maltysen

@Bits it was a helpful review, I guess ;P

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Maltysen

@NewMainPosts idk what's so great about it, you tell me.

Quill

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Bits

2:59 AM

FPOOP

Downgoat

@Quill :c he forgot Cheddar

2 days ago, by Downgoat

cheddar lang is best lang

Nathan Merrill

since when is JavaScript functional?

himarm jr

> fvck trump

.-.

Nathan Merrill

hmmm, nevermind. After looking at Array.prototype, there are quite a few functional functions

Downgoat

@NathanMerrill most JS >= ES5 is very functional

JS not heavily utilizing functional functions is bad JS

Nathan Merrill

3:11 AM

well, funny enough, when I was actually gaining expertise with JS, I was also learning a functional language at the same time

so I was trying to make my JS as functional as possible as well

so I just assumed that my functional way of coding was more related to my preference, not the nature of the language

although, I really didn't know about all of the stuff found in Arrays.prototype

I was using JQuery map, foreach, and the like

Downgoat

@NathanMerrill yuck jQuery

Helka Homba

@ZachGates What specifically are you referring to?

Zach Gates

3:25 AM

@HelkaHomba Socialism

Downgoat

@ZachGates Socialism isn't necessarily giving things to people who don't deserve it, it's to people who are less fortunate then some of us are.

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orlp

@ZachGates define 'deserve'

Zach Gates

@Downgoat Give me an example of some who is less fortunate & deserving

@orlp Someone is "deserving" when they have done something for which they should get something in return

orlp

@ZachGates why?

life isn't fair

Zach Gates

Why what?

orlp

3:30 AM

why should you only get things for which you have done things

does a person born blind deserve less?

Helka Homba

@ZachGates I mean what specific Bernie Sanders plans/quotes suggest he wants to give things to people who don't deserve them?

I don't deny he has an affiliation with socialism, I'm just looking for something more concrete.

orlp

a depressed person? a delinquent with abusive parents? a homeless person who's house burned down? someone with an addiction to meth that no one wants to help?

focus less on who has done what to 'deserve', focus more on making the world a better place

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and america is supposed to be the most christian western country...

Zach Gates

@orlp Like you said, life's not fair

orlp

@ZachGates so let's try our best to make it sufferable

Zach Gates

Why should anyone be forced to help someone? Especially by the government. I'm not saying you shouldn't help them; I'm saying it shouldn't be regulated/mandated

orlp

3:35 AM

@ZachGates And I'm saying you should be forced, because humans are inherently egotistical.

Zach Gates

@orlp America is by no means a "Christian" country anymore.

orlp

@ZachGates that's not what I said

the most Christian

trichoplax

Yay! Politics! Something everyone can disagree on

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Zach Gates

It is not a Christian country whatsoever

There are Christians living in America, yes

orlp

But that's beside the point (I was wrong either way after looking it up; supposedly Poland is 94% christian making it the most christian western country)

Helka Homba

3:37 AM

@orlp heh, it's understandable but yes, hypocritical - biblehub.com/matthew/19-24.htm

orlp

we should propose an "American Jesus"

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

@HelkaHomba I fail to see how that's hypocritical.

orlp

#triggered

Helka Homba

@ZachGates I'm fairly relieved by the thought that if I become unconscious in a car accident I'll be rushed to a hospital by an ambulance. Likewise if I have alcohol/drug/unemployment/etc problems there are places I can go for help.

Zach Gates

@HelkaHomba I don't agree, but I can understand that

Helka Homba

3:40 AM

I'm willing to pay taxes for those kinds of insurances

himarm jr

I gtg to bed, bye!

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Bai

Downgoat

@himarmjr bai!

himarm jr

bye

remember: drinkbai.com!!!

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

This is one of the weirdest bugs I've ever ran into.

You can't insert a slash (/) in V.

Zach Gates

3:42 AM

@HelkaHomba I can agree to pay taxes for fire-fighters, paramedics, and (some) police officers

himarm jr

Are you sure it isn't an arachnid?

thankee for teh stars (this message may or may not get more stars than the previous one (this may not get stars because of the previous statment (this message may get stars to be annoying in light of the previous statement (GIMME TEH STARZ (or not)))))

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I predicted correctly in my mind, but not in my message. :/

why do stars have to be so weird

Doorknob

I just spent an hour trying to figure out why Musescore wasn't playing sound before realizing I installed a new kernel but forgot to reboot.

I am really dumb

himarm jr

lol

Helka Homba

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ I just mean that most US Christians surely aren't about to give their possessions away as the Bible suggests. I don't blame them or anything - I'm not about to either and the Bible (or any book) cannot possibly be taken that literally.

trichoplax

> I installed a new kernel ... I am really dumb

Something doesn't add up there...

Doorknob

3:47 AM

No, I mean I upgraded to the new kernel version via my package manager.

trichoplax

Credit withdrawn :P

Doorknob

Which gave me all the modules for that version, but I was still on the old version... >_>

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

@Doorknob I didn't know you use musescore. I used to use it all the time.

Are you a musician?

Doorknob

Uh, kinda? Not a very good one. :P

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Which instrument(s)?

Doorknob

3:50 AM

Piano/viola

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Cool. I like piano a lot. I've never played a string-based instrument like violin or viola though.

Nathan Merrill

I use musescore as well

and it's the best program, even compared to paid composition software

(like finale)

Doorknob

Yeah, I've tried several and it's the one I like the best

Nathan Merrill

the ability to "type" out a score is really easy (easier than other programs, I've found)

which is actually what matters the most to me

Helka Homba

@ZachGates But you trust in yourself (and your family and your friends) to never succumb to other types of neediness? I can understand that. I doubt I'll ever become an alcoholic or drug addict, or even be extremely affected by someone else who is, but I freely admit it's far from an impossibility.

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