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@Fabby Thank you very much ! :)

@Fabby Me too ... :D

Fabby

Me neither... ;)

off to work!

@Fabby I also voted to reopen it ! :)

@Fabby Have fun ... hopefully ! :)

@Zanna : Can you please vote to reopen the question as well -> askubuntu.com/questions/873333/cant-resize-partitions-in-ubuntu/… ? :)

Zanna

@cl-netbox personally I think the question is still unclear, as we don't know what the error message is

@Zanna I think he means that resizing gets refused ... as I often told many users : This does not work from within a running system ! :)

@Zanna FYI : these deployment topics are those about which I am having "some really advanced" experience and knowledge ... such as @Serg has with scripting ... so the question is fully valid and my answer very useful ... :)

edwinksl

10:17 AM

@Seth hahahahhaah nice

11:00 AM

Hey @terdon Good morning ! :) I am missing something ...

Yes?

@terdon The bounty -> chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/34777472#34777472 ... I can't see it -> askubuntu.com/questions/871978/… ... maybe an issue with the SE system I am facing ? :D :D :D

@cl-netbox Better?

edwinksl

@terdon thought perl folks like you might appreciate reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/5oyl15/…

@terdon hahaha ... yes ... now I can see it ... thank you very much terdon ! :)

11:05 AM

@terdon I have an annoying user :P

@edwinksl heh :)

@cl-netbox You're welcome.

@Rinzwind So? I have hundreds. ;)

What's up?

@terdon I am glad that we solved the problem and the system is running properly ! :)

Q: Enable CD-ROM means How to re-enable

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I disabled CD-ROM for security reasons but i need to re-enable it again for use. How can i re-enable it? I want to enable it again but i tried everything but still nothing is working..

cd cd-drive

@terdon ^

here is a list of a few of his PM's:

@Rinzwind Hello Sir, will you please help me to block the cdrom with commands which are working !!! — Vikram Jadhav 4 hours ago

oops

here -> askubuntu.com/questions/873396/disable-enable-cd-rom

he claims 9 times command does not work and cuz I removed my answer ( :D ) he now claims he cant eject his cd :P

@terdon well you are a mod so that's understandable >:)

@VikramJadhav stop this! The people here are all volunteers. If they can help, they will but do not insist like this. Be patient and wait. Even better, edit your question and show that you tried the commands Rinzwind already gave you and what happened when you tried. But, whatever you do, stop leaving repetitive comments like this. — terdon ♦ 17 secs ago

@Rinzwind edit the answer ... tell him to use a screw driver and a big hammer ... @Fabby would do it ... :D :D :D

11:16 AM

@terdon thanks. what annoys me most is that I asked him to do something and completly ignores that.

Yeah.

he still has not shown the version of eject he uses :=D

but I am sure the eject in Ubuntu in 2009 already was able to lock the device

@Rinzwind I would expect that to depend on hardware though.

@Rinzwind this behavior I observed many many times ... :)

@terdon nope.

it blocks a udev rule if I remember correctly

11:24 AM

@Rinzwind No? I'm pretty sure I've seen drives that ignored eject, where eject couldn't actually do anything. And I know I've seen drives that didn't understand eject -t (or whatever the close tray command was)

" If eject does not work, it is
most likely a limitation of the kernel driver for the device and not
the eject program itself.
"

from the manual :=)

Considering that this seems to be a sysadmin with next to no knowledge (so, probably working for a public university/school) and, based on the name, probably in India, I wouldn't be surprised if they're running >10 year-old computers.

@Rinzwind Yeah, that's what they all say. :)

No, but that's my point: some drives don't support it.

from the manual @terdon ;=-)

Or some drivers, if you prefer.

some kernels >:)

I blame Linus

11:26 AM

kernel driver for the device

I blame the hardware.

The hardware manufacturers, anyway. Point is, you can't be certain that eject can deal with the drive.

The best solution would probably be to remove the driver, whatever that is.

yeah was my last comment :D

copy /dev/cdrom to another location, remove it and restore it when needed _O-

bit drastic sure D:

but then again

I have to ask WHY did he post the SECOND question?

cuz that one would imply it DID work :P

and another PM D::::::::::::::

Noob question: will 18.04 support repositories? I was reading this, and it says all Snaps-based

@Gallifreian yes.

the base system will be snap based.

The base system?

when you install Ubuntu it will probably use snaps.

when you install software it will use snaps

but you can add repo's yourself and install from there

and those could also be snaps :)

11:32 AM

@terdon I should be offended, but I'm totally agreeing.

But why, are snaps better in soe fundamental way?

@Gallifreian cause NIH ;p

@Gallifreian Both versions will be included : apt repositories and snaps ! :)

@JourneymanGeek huh?

and snaps will be the default :=)

11:33 AM

I do also think the apps are containerised somehow

@JourneymanGeek Offended? What I said would apply equally well to Greece! Public universities pretty much everywhere have crappy old computers.

@Gallifreian not invented here

@terdon oh the bit about indian sysadmins

probably underpaid too.

sandboxed yes :=D
But the idea about that is not security but easier to update (you basically replace the container to update a specific software)

From what I understand, snaps are identical to .exe and .mse in the way they include some dependencies.

F00D!

11:35 AM

@Gallifreian ehhhh, not quite

@JourneymanGeek I didn't mean Indian sysadmins don't know their stuff, I was just suggesting that a random public school in India is very likely to have old machines.

@Gallifreian no

@terdon I was completely suggesting (many) indian sysadmins don't know their stuff ;p

but I'm currently feeling entirely misanthropic about the entire IT industry from and of the subcontinent

Heh. That may well be true, but I don't have much (any) experience with Indian sysadmins.

or indian IT folk.

11:36 AM

@terdon Isn't @jokerdino one of them ? :D

A snap is a fancy zip file containing an application together with its dependencies, and a description of how it should safely be run on your system, especially the different ways it should talk to other software.

@cl-netbox @jokerdino is a geek, not a professional IT person ;p

(I'm ethnic indian, which is part of the joke)

@Gallifreian windows has this thing called dll hell, and sxs...

a snap essentially is a container with almost static dependancies

What about stuff sharing dependencies? Isn't this what made repos great in the first place?

(I just got turned down for an entry level sysadmin job, with training, for no apparent reason, and another company was trying to lowball me badly and was insulting. Both seem to be from the subcontinent, so I'm pretty mad)

@Gallifreian well, the whole "those who forget the past..."

though they do seem to dedup askubuntu.com/questions/787149/…

I've seen worse, but I'm not sure if my NDA covers that ;)

That's a relief

Last question then - what are the pros and cons of upgrading to 17.04 vs waiting for 18.04?

11:47 AM

eh, I tend to run LTS, otherwise, depends