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Well I'll take the laptop apart and look for lint. My old Toshiba had 1/4" of lint over the exhaust port when I replaced that fan. But this new dell when I replaced the fan I don't recall it had lint and that was just a year ago or so. That's why I think I might need a new heat sink. But first I test temps in Windows to see if they are as bad there.

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix this is my temp...with two VMS running...

Kaz Wolfe

1:26 AM

@TheXed that didn't ping me for some reason.

TheXed

@KazWolfe odd...

Kaz Wolfe

hm.... now what

WinEunuuchs2Unix

My temps used to be like that on Ubuntu 14 but on 16 they spiked 10 to 20 degrees. p-states were disabled under 14 as was turbo boost though.

TheXed

when you took the heat sync off, did you put new thermal paste on?

Kaz Wolfe

new thermal paste is a good idea most of the time.

TheXed

1:28 AM

@KazWolfe all the time...

Kaz Wolfe

unless you have crappy thermal paste

or are the kind to put a full syringe on your CPU.

TheXed

@KazWolfe then you would be wise to just use some Crest Toothpaste...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

BTW I'm renaming 14.04 to 14 and 16.04 to 16. I'm also renaming 14.10 to 14.1 and 16.10 to 16.1. I haven't replaced the heat sink yet. I'm going to order one for 25 bucks. Apparently they have a chemical inside that can disappear over time if there is a crack. I did replace the fan though. Yes I read there is good paste like "arctic 5".

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Arctic Silver 5 is among the best, yes.

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Yes Artic 5 is awesome..

Kaz Wolfe

1:29 AM

It's in my personal toolkit.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe I read a dell forum talking about Arctic Silver 5 that and i t had link to heat sink.

TheXed

Artic Silver rather...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I always mispell Arctic even though I live in it (almost). I blame it on Antartica.

TheXed

So that heat sync must have some sort of passive water cooling system..

WinEunuuchs2Unix

There is some chemical in it they say.

Kaz Wolfe

1:31 AM

yes, mind control agents.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It might be a gas though. Don't know.

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix or just air...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Well if it was air then it wouldn't make a difference if it leaked out...

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix good point...

@WinEunuuchs2Unix unless it is pressurized and the structure lost its shape and there is no longer any gap...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Anyway I've never replaced the CPU-GPU heat sink pipes so it will be fun. If I break something I'll buy a new laptop ;)

TheXed

1:32 AM

and I have no idea what I am talking about and talking out my ass...

@WinEunuuchs2Unix it is super easy...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Luckily there are lots of Youtube videos

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix usually 4 screws, lift....put paste on...put back down...screw...

the hard part is getting to it...

Kaz Wolfe

and not screwing up the paste part

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Haha it's like 25 screws, a backlit keyboard, an optical drive, two hard drives and 4 ribbon cables to replace the fan... the heat sink will be harder.

Yes I've heard lots of paste horror stories. I mean read them.

Kaz Wolfe

also, i currently have seven syringes of Arctic Silver 5 in my house.

TheXed

1:34 AM

@KazWolfe how can you screw up the paste part? there are a million different techniques, and theory's and none of them are right...

Kaz Wolfe

@TheXed air bubble under paste, too much paste... gap in paste

TheXed

@KazWolfe I have 2 tubs of arctic silver...

Pea sized dot in the center of the cpu...and screw on the heat sync...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I have so much arctic silver I keep it in my bathtub and it's like 3/4 full now

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix that's like tens of thousands of dollars

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix we are talking about paste, not the weather...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:36 AM

hehe

Kaz Wolfe

@TheXed i did the plus a few times.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

basically you are saying more paste is not better right?

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix depends on what theory you like...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

i tend to like the one that works :)

TheXed

but we are talking differences +- or two degrees..

Kaz Wolfe

1:37 AM

-2 degrees are always better

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Yeah I'm trying to shave off 30 degrees to get back to normal.

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix so if you shave off 28 you are doing good...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Definitely.... so now we agree paste doesn't matter?

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix no it does matter...lol

WinEunuuchs2Unix

You just said +/- 2 degrees LOL

TheXed

1:39 AM

I am saying if you apply it correctly you could shave 30 off...

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix between application styles

TheXed

but if you apply it just a little different you may get 32 or 28

Kaz Wolfe

28 is better.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It's probably the heat sink and not the paste in the first place though. It's a 2012/2013 laptop though...

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix it could be the paste...I have seen some cheap paste dry up and pretty much become useless...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:41 AM

Hey Xed I'm 5 points away from "6789" hint: askubuntu.com/questions/848776/…

TheXed

You need a down vote?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

the other way...LOL

Kaz can down-vote me tomorrow :p

TheXed

Oh...Cool I earned another Gold badge...or doing nothing...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Ugghhh you put me up 25... I missed the magic number AGAIN!

that happened at 3456 :(

TheXed

A question that was closed for being a duplicate has over 10,000 views...

@WinEunuuchs2Unix sorry...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:44 AM

I know that's kind of weird how we close the wrong things sometimes.

TheXed

Well because it doesn't have a good answer per-say, I don't understand why it has 10k views...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

The title is worded better in the dup and more searchable than the original. Change the original question title to be the same as the dup. Then change the dup's title to be "When I sing "Singing in the Rain" why is it snowing in Ubuntu 17?"

TheXed

OMG...@WinEunuuchs2Unix check this out lol...

721

Q: How do I install a .deb file via the command line?

How do I install a .deb file via the command line?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

sudo dpkg -i *.deb

I type that all the time to install new kernels :)

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix check out the views on that question...

and the upvotes...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:48 AM

well I already see 721 votes..hold on.

haha 1,928,884 you're a ROCK STAR!

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix...Yeah to bad we don't get a dollar for every view on stack exchange...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I could ask "What does .deb mean?" :p

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix duplicate

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I searched it!

I hate the search engine in AU. Google is much better finding AU questions than AU is.

Kaz Wolfe

look at @TheXed, capable of writing good questions.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:52 AM

I saw the answer he wrote on FE or something. said the picture had good composition.

TheXed

FE?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Well Xed does work at an educational institution. Makes sense he's a good writer :)

Kaz Wolfe

my max question is only 29 favorites :(

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Um close to this one: "@TheXed on an iphone. i can't control any of that.

I can AE/AF lock, but not when my phone is practically in the water."

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix what?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:56 AM

3 lines up

4 lines

wait now it's 6 liners up.

Free health care in the USA would create lots of jobs.

Probably just as many as the Military Industrial Complex

Kaz Wolfe

and none of the lobbies in congress would go for that.

so it'll never happen.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It can happen with the right mindset.

Kaz Wolfe

54 secs ago, by Kaz Wolfe

and none of the lobbies in congress would go for that.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

lobbyists to congress....

Seth

anyone have any recommendations for an android app that will let me do some basic photo editing? I need freehand and squares.

Kaz Wolfe

2:00 AM

@Seth i think sketchbook lets you add stuff.

also doesn't photoshop technically exist for android?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

gimp on Ubuntu with android phone plugged into usb 3 port.

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Flag > Not An Answer

WinEunuuchs2Unix

good thing I can't get downvoted in chat like your "edit someone's code question" in meta :p

Kaz Wolfe

yes, Photoshop Express or Autodesk Sketchbook. There should be a few others that aren't as professional, but I don't actually know them, @Seth.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe Flag > Not A Wolf

Kaz Wolfe

2:02 AM

@Seth pls.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Sorry for the long paws....took me awhile to come up with a witty reply.

@KazWolfe Al-Jazeera is reporting drought in California is almost over... :)

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix [helpful -- 14 seconds ago]

WinEunuuchs2Unix

wat

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix hahahaha no.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

more snow then.

Hah! Gambia's president finally decided to leave.

New US Secretary of Defense if James "Maddog" Mattis :)

Seth

2:20 AM

@KazWolfe I ended up using InkBoard. Small and simple

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Seth Isn't it rather difficult image editing on a phone? I have a hard enough time reading stack exchange without reading glasses.

Seth

@WinEunuuchs2Unix well obviously it isn't for masterpieces.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Hmm... my best masterpiece was taking camera picture 3.4 MB, converting it to black and white (which it was already as it was boot screen) to get it < 2 MB to post it here on this site...LOL

TheXed

2:40 AM

DAMN! I just ran a full Malwarebytes scan in 39 Seconds...

Seth

SSD FTW!! o/

TheXed

@Seth m.2 ssd ftw!

Seth

@Fabby I'd argue it does. A lot of conversations even start with a 3 way handshake.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Aww can't wait to get a m.2 ssd and usb thunderbolt/3.1 too. Next year hopefully.

Journeyman Geek

@WinEunuuchs2Unix any SSD is a great performance boost. Also my current laptop does both.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:55 AM

@JourneymanGeek Oh I agree on that. My first SSD was mSata 128 GB and my second was full SATA III 240 Kingston Savage X.... Haven't used it very much for Ubuntu 17 yet though. The original 5400 RPM SATA II 500 GB HDD is in full size bay 2 and it is painfully slow in comparison.

This is my current laptop ^^^

TheXed

R/W speeds on m.2

WinEunuuchs2Unix

$ sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
[sudo] password for rick:

/dev/sda:
Timing cached reads: 17832 MB in 2.00 seconds = 8923.33 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 1568 MB in 3.00 seconds = 522.12 MB/sec

Journeyman Geek

I updated decade old systems with low end ones. Poof. Massively better systems

WinEunuuchs2Unix

R/W speeds on SATA III Kingston Savage X 240 GB I'm not really using yet

@JourneymanGeek I agree SSD is best performance upgrade you can make.

Interestingly 500 GB Sata II 5400 RPM HDD has good speed too: $ sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sdb

/dev/sdb:
Timing cached reads: 18254 MB in 2.00 seconds = 9134.66 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 340 MB in 3.01 seconds = 113.13 MB/sec

The mSata SSD is SATA III but it's on a SATA II channel bus so it's a crying shame really. It's specs aren't so great for a SSD: $ sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sdc

/dev/sdc:
Timing cached reads: 17146 MB in 2.00 seconds = 8579.95 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 810 MB in 3.00 seconds = 269.68 MB/sec

hdparm is misleading because it appears sdc is only twice as fast as sdb but in real life it's 3 to 5 times faster booting and about 10 times faster opening up system settings or Libre Office.

Kaz Wolfe

3:39 AM

@Seth works well enough :D

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Q: Asus F556U laptop Ethernet fails and Wifi unstable

So I bought a pretty new laptop, and install linux mint on it, but the wired ethernet never works. It would load for a while, trying to connect, but eventually gives up. Wifi it would work for a while, then sometimes get disconnected, and then sometimes it works again. I know it should work becau...

networking drivers wireless ethernet

MINT!!1

also, based on the proposal profile picture, i was surprised this was an audit.

TheXed

4:32 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I saw this and thought of you

arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Yup I should order some soon. Hi @Zanna :) How was your Christmas and NY's?

Kaz Wolfe

oh, wonderful. if i get a job, this is my commute twice a week

Zanna

@WinEunuuchs2Unix awesome thanks! ^_^ how about you?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Zanna Lot's of turkey!

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix rubbing alcohol works fine...but that might work better

Rubbing alcohol that is...

Zanna

4:43 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I don't know if that's a good thing for you, but I can't say anything nice because I'm a vegan, so excuse me from further comment haha

Kaz Wolfe

*drinks coffee at 9 PM*

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Zanna Well I also had vegetables on the plate. So we have 20% of the same diet, 50% if you count mashed potatoes as vegan!

Zanna

depends whether you put butter in them

Kaz Wolfe

> Bookish, excitable vegan introvert, lover of horizontal organising, salted caramel ice cream, decolonisation and social justice.

wat.com

zanna, how does ice cream and vegan work? i'm genuinely curious...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Zanna margerine... which can be made from canola

Zanna

4:51 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix margerine should be vegan, but not always

Seth

@KazWolfe hey at least you can take the train

some people have to drive that.

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth 40 minute drive.

Seth

@KazWolfe I must be bad at deciphering those routes.

Kaz Wolfe

it is los angeles.

Seth

never been

Kaz Wolfe

4:59 AM

currently a 32 minute drive.

so, yeah, kinda annoying.

Edity

hOi!

im deleting 20,217 items in my folder!

Kaz Wolfe

You are not Temmie.

Edity

:o

ARRRGH

WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU COULDN'T FINISH UPDATES

Journeyman Geek

@KazWolfe there's vegan ice cream

there's a local place that makes it out of brown rice milk

its actually pretty good

Edity

NOW IM MAD >:(

bashes computer

now tries to install debian again

NETINSTALL

Kaz Wolfe

5:13 AM

@Edity This is not about Ubuntu. Questions about other Linux distributions can be asked on Unix & Linux, those about Windows on Super User, those about Apple products on Ask Different and generic programming questions on Stack Overflow.

Edity

._.

did you really had to copy the closed post message???

Kaz Wolfe

I have my sources.

Edity

(O)_(O)

@KazWolfe k

Kaz Wolfe

Fun fact, over the past 90 days, 18063 questions were asked, and 5146 were closed, bringing us to a close percentage of 28.49%, where 2131 (or 41.41%) of all closures were duplicates.

Edity

O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O

Journeyman Geek

5:19 AM

TENTACLE!

Kaz Wolfe

@JourneymanGeek [Redacted]!

Edity

chops tentacle

Journeyman Geek

Kaz Wolfe

@JourneymanGeek that is an extremely arbitrary mouth.

Journeyman Geek

quite

Edity

5:28 AM

@JourneymanGeek ?

what is he saying

Kaz Wolfe

@Edity, just flag those as rude/abusive, and move on.

Edity

k

deletedd

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe were you watching me?

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman i see all

i know all

Edity

the iluminati watches all, iluminati confirmed

Nathan Osman

5:41 AM

Which level were you watching?

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman i only saw that you were in-game on portal

Nathan Osman

Ah.

Kaz Wolfe

i have no idea about anything else.

Nathan Osman

During one part, the desktop appeared and I realized I forgot that I was playing on battery and it warned me that it was going to shut down in a minute.

Seth

@KazWolfe hi santa

Kaz Wolfe

5:44 AM

@Seth no, no. I'm Mr. NSA.

Nathan Osman

I never plugged something in faster :P

Seth

@KazWolfe Self Appointed NSA Technical Assistant?

Kaz Wolfe

i'm impressed how fast you thought that up

Seth

@NathanOsman hah :P

Nathan Osman

Finished a few advanced maps.

The turret one was crazy difficult.

I'm not even sure if I found the right solution. I timed a couple of actions so fast that I was able to absorb the damage.

But it worked.

Edity

5:47 AM

you guys play portal???

Kaz Wolfe

yes

Edity

now i should keep chatting everyday ._.

Nathan Osman

Is that good?

Edity

i don't like puzzle games

:P

Nathan Osman

Why not?

Edity

5:59 AM

because

i just don't like it, i guess

Kaz Wolfe

hey @NathanOsman, have you tried Portal Stories Mel yet?

Nathan Osman

Nope.

Kaz Wolfe

that's hard portal.

Fabby

7:48 AM

@Seth :D:D :D

Fabby

8:01 AM

Kali! One more close vote needed!

Zanna

Third day in a row I made a CW from misplaced self-answer - please upvote if you can askubuntu.com/questions/874375/…

Rinzwind

@Fabby already gone :P

Fabby

:) Thanks!

@Zanna 'mornin' +1

Zanna

8:52 AM

@Fabby thanks a lot :)

Eliah Kagan

9:23 AM

Hi.

Fabby

10:27 AM

@DavidFoerster @Zanna Done for today!

;-)

cl-netbox

Good morning ! :)

Mark Yisri

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Q: My Thinkpad X301 built-in webcam on Lubuntu 16.04 worked only a few seconds today

For more than a year my webcam hasn't been woring. I didn't look much into it. This morning I could see a video capture from the webcam but only for a few seconds. Then there was no video captured, it's a totally dark image now. Also I can't see any video device found for my built-in webcam. ...