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@edwinksl oooh pretty! I do love purple, but I just love all colours and variety really. Sometimes slate grey is the loveliest colour, it depends on the context, the light, the texture & all

andrew.46

Am I imagining that decent questions are thin on the ground today?

Zanna

sigh how can we encourage someone to modify the tone of their comments...

edwinksl

@Zanna heh so you might like this reddit.com/r/wallpapers/comments/3oetbm/…

in case it isn't obvious, i am shopping for wallpapers...

Zanna

ooh yeah that's great too :)

I've still got some from no Man's Sky

edwinksl

6:44 AM

yeah NMS is a great way to generate wallpapers but it is a really bad game :/

Zanna

In the house of one of my students there are two amazing landscape paintings that I could look at forever, I should see if I can find them online

I like Giorgio de Chirico for backgrounds...

edwinksl

take a picture and i can try to look

Zanna

I will do next time!

hmm actually I don't like de Chirico so much as I did in art college, but I still like this one img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/MrRtist21/chirico9a.jpg

edwinksl

alright i just found my next wallpaper reddit.com/r/wallpapers/comments/50op5d/…

Zanna

wow, that's really breathtaking :)

aaand these comments everywhere that I find aggressive have upvotes

edwinksl

6:57 AM

:(

Zanna

is it off topic? askubuntu.com/review/close/621260

edwinksl

i am not super sure

i am 60 off-topic 40 on-topic

it is unlikely we can do anything about it

i can only really decide if i try out the game myself but i am too lazy

Zanna

yeah true, but maybe someone knows. idk what to do with this review

thank you skip button :(

argh just found an old Q where someone has corrected a mistake OP made in typing a command - way to confuse everyone!!

edwinksl

which question is that

Zanna

7:12 AM

please check, maybe I am wrong askubuntu.com/posts/449121/revisions

edwinksl

i think it is correct to remove ~

adding it back in is probably the correct answer, lol

elder geek also said as much

Zanna

yeah, I think the answer is right, despite comment from OP, but answer makes no sense after Q edited

Serg

welp, crap

my mom's car broke down

and by the looks of it it's the engine

which means it's gonna be a very very round bill for repair

which also means , i think i probably won't go to uni next semester

that's it

Zanna

:(

answer or comment askubuntu.com/a/828398/527764 ?

edwinksl

7:28 AM

@Zanna (what's up with that screenshot? lol)

Zanna

ikr!?

and can't use a USB or cd?

Serg

just reinstall

typical user won't wanna deal with kernel

Zanna

booting an old kernel isn't dealing with the kernel :)

Nathan Osman

@Seth here is the progress so far:

Still a couple days from getting something working though.

The queue works, the server launches, and the Twitter client connects.

But I haven't written the scraper yet or implemented actions for the items on the pages.

edwinksl

@NathanOsman the other SE sites will be so jealous of our tbot

Nathan Osman

7:35 AM

Shhh! It's open-source.

They could run it too :)

edwinksl

they can run the bot but they can't produce the starred content like we do

Nathan Osman

True.

edwinksl

:p

andrew.46

Could somebody cleverer than me sort this one out? askubuntu.com/q/828882/57576

I have run out of ideas and energy......

Zanna

~/.profile not getting sourced on login apparently?

it's not entirely clear they logged out and back in

that's the ticket...

but sometimes I think the graphical shell doesn't source ~/.profile

I'd tell them to put it in ~/.pam_environment instead maybe... or just roll in the big guns and put the damn thing in /etc/environment (full disclosure - my PATH variable with all my additions is defined in /etc/environment, sorry mum.)

Serg

7:52 AM

god I hate whiskey. it tastes like fermented bugs.

Nathan Osman

IDIOTS - iPhone Parody

►

That is legitimately hilarious.

edwinksl

@NathanOsman speaking of which... youtube.com/watch?v=EErY75MXYXI

that's a lot of answers askubuntu.com/users/593116/sardapv?tab=answers

Ahmed Al-attar

8:16 AM

good morning

andrew.46

8:41 AM

Evening @AhmedAl-attar :)

Ahmed Al-attar

its evening now :)

just one minute ago

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Q: Is the word "Fedora" a swearing one?

Stop closing on-topic questions just for mentioning another distro! Just out off top of my head for the last time, here's one, OP simply stated distros they tried — Fedora, Fedora again, Ubuntu, etc — the question is closed. Later then they diplicated the question by simply removing the list, an...

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Ahmed Al-attar

lol

andrew.46

I still find time zone differences funny :)

Ahmed Al-attar

true , specially went you get into an airplane :P

andrew.46 how are you ?

andrew.46

8:44 AM

Good, and yourself?

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Ahmed Al-attar

fine , witch is strange :P

andrew.46

@Zanna I suspect that the OP has a broken system and that I have reached my limits with that question.

But thanks for casting an eye over it :)

Zanna

Yeah you're probably right. I gave an upvote to your good answer...

andrew.46

My thanks yet again, I spent far too much time on that question. But had a family BBQ in the meantime :)

So all is not lost

Zanna

8:57 AM

Sounds alright in that case :)

edwinksl

requesting a reopen: askubuntu.com/questions/827346/acpi-problem-with-msi-laptop

Ahmed Al-attar

edwinks! i wish i could help on that lol

edwinksl

and also CV as dupe: askubuntu.com/questions/828965/problem-with-msi-acpi-on-laptop

@AhmedAl-attar you will get to 3k reputation soon enough once you write answers

Rinzwind

meta is not the best place for a rant like that >:)

Ahmed Al-attar

haahha hope now one keeps de-poining me

Rinzwind

9:00 AM

@edwinksl that list can be removed from the question.

the complaint about w10 too

and askubuntu.com/questions/828965/problem-with-msi-acpi-on-laptop cant be used as a dupe: no answers

edwinksl

i think you can dupe questions by the same OP even if there are no answers?

in fact i actually did that

Rinzwind

oh

edwinksl

yeah i recall vaguely somewhere there is a post that says it is possible to do that. can't remember which post that was :x

Rinzwind

it is getting groceries time :=)

back in a bit

edwinksl

i think i will keep the list for now just in case it may be useful to potential answerers

but i will remove the windows part

@andrew.46 wow that's a lot of effort on just a PATH question :p

andrew.46

9:14 AM

Sigh..... I am obviously insane......

Ananconda is a 350MB download too I might mention

Can I have medal of some sort?

edwinksl

@andrew.46 indeed i might check out what that 350 MB .sh file does

andrew.46

I am not commnicating well with Mr proton I suspect: youtube.com/watch?v=V2f-MZ2HRHQ

Cool hand luke :)

Noooooooooooo..... he still cannot get it to work........................

edwinksl

hahaha it has its own wikipedia page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

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9:32 AM

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Ahmed Al-attar

9:42 AM

guys , am trying to help someone in a chat

its seems precise its not included in old-releases , any hint ?

user136984

@AhmedAl-attar: That's because it's not an old-release. It's still supported.

user136984

Through the standard channels.

Ahmed Al-attar

ouh

user136984

Why do so many people round here think 12.04 has gone EOL?

user136984

Beats me...

Ahmed Al-attar

9:47 AM

can you join us in the chat please ?

Discussion between AMit SiNgh and Ahm…

Imported from a comment discussion on askubuntu.com/questions/...

user136984

@AhmedAl-attar: Ok

Ahmed Al-attar

thanks

Rinzwind

@ParanoidPanda up to 12.04.4 is end of life

user136984

@AhmedAl-attar: Wouldn't they have upgraded to 12.04.5?

Rinzwind

sure hop so ;-)

user136984

9:50 AM

It's only the standard updates that they would need.

Ahmed Al-attar

i dont know exactly

user136984

@Rinzwind: Plus, they say they are running 15.10, and they have some wily repos and some precise ones.

Rinzwind

15.10 is old news :=D

user136984

Though it doesn't look like it's a problem with the main repos. Just some PPAs.

user136984

@Rinzwind: Yes, that is EOL.

user136984

9:52 AM

But half the time they claim they are on Precise.

Ahmed Al-attar

lol

user136984

@Rinzwind: Seems he's running Wily, but he put Precise in his sources.list because he though he would then be supported.

user136984

:D

user136984

Anyway, the problem he is facing with his errors is due to his PPAs no longer supporting Wily.

Rinzwind

that's one way of messing it up :)

back in a bit. doctor who <3

user136984

10:17 AM

VTC this EOL release.

edwinksl

yup already did

Zanna

10:33 AM

Just cast the 5th :)

edwinksl

clutch :)

user136984

This has been bugging me for quite some time now:

user136984

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Q: How did those first freed from the Matrix survive?

In The Matrix Morpheus says: When the Matrix was first built, there was a man born inside who had the ability to change whatever he wanted, to remake the Matrix as he saw fit. It was he who freed the first of us, taught us the truth. But as we see from when Neo was freed, if the Humans ...

the-matrix

user136984

:D

Anwar

OT?

and hi. afternoon :)

edwinksl

10:46 AM

nuke nuke nuke askubuntu.com/questions/829025/unfortunately-app-has-stopped

that question would gather -10 on SO in a matter of minutes

Zanna

Afternoon @Anwar :)

@edwinksl I see you made a helpful suggestion ;)

Anwar

@edwinksl so. no luck for them? :)

you were sending them to black hole?

edwinksl

@Zanna just trying to avoid another "huhhhhh y does every1 h8 mi?????" situation :)

Zanna

Hehehe enough of that already

Reposted askubuntu.com/questions/829023/…

edwinksl

@Anwar :P

@Zanna OP claimed different error but it is identical to me

Anwar

10:57 AM

y you ubunut ppl so unhelpful? y Y?

Zanna

Thanks for backup :)

edwinksl

looks like OP wrote his/her own answer and instantly deleted it? askubuntu.com/questions/829015/python-3-default-interpreter

maybe some 10kers can confirm that for me :p

Anwar

yes

Zanna

Wow that looks copied from Andrew's answer

edwinksl

i think andrew forgot to put that anaconda path in front of $PATH

Anwar

11:04 AM

@edwinksl may be they had some issue with electrons?

edwinksl

so i basically just told OP to switch the order

Zanna

When encountering the problem where an anaconda instaltaion does not update the PATH variable propely, change the ~/.profile file like that

# set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then
PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
fi

export PATH=/path/to/anaconda3/bin:$PATH:
and then do source ~./profile and reboot.

edwinksl

i think OP deleted because i said i was going to write an answer

Zanna

That's the deleted self answer

edwinksl

that's my best guess

i only saw it for a split second

Zanna

11:05 AM

Why prepend to $PATH?

edwinksl

because anaconda also has python3

Zanna

pasted it for you up there

So it has to come before /usr/bin?

edwinksl

if OP wants to use anaconda's python3, its path has to come first before /usr/bin

yeah

it is in fact documented in anaconda's docs too

Zanna

Got it

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Zanna

11:07 AM

So that's where Andrew went wrong?

@SmokeDetector you messed up

Great knowledge @edwinksl :)

jokerdino

@SmokeDetector phone number??

edwinksl

@Zanna i think so

Anwar

let me ask a programming q?

or should I go to some other room?

jokerdino

no

what is this other room?

Anwar

ok

Abstraction == Encapsulation. right?

or is there any difference?

jokerdino

11:20 AM

Why is this question not OT? It says OS: Fedora 24.

edwinksl

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Q: Abstraction VS Information Hiding VS Encapsulation

Can you tell me what is the difference between abstraction and information hiding in software development? I am confused. Abstraction hides detail implementation and information hiding abstracts whole details of something. Update: I found a good answer for these three concepts. See the separate...

encapsulation abstraction glossary ooad information-hiding

@Anwar ---^

it is a classic question

Anwar

I voted as OT @jokerdino

edwinksl

@jokerdino it also says "I have faced the same issue on Ubuntu 16.04"

jokerdino

There are 3 reopen votes on it.

@edwinksl yes but the current OS he is using is not Ubuntu.

Anwar

hmm.

jokerdino

11:22 AM

I am using Windows now and I have faced this in Ubuntu as well. On topic please?

edwinksl

@jokerdino did OP say he is currently using Fedora?

jokerdino

"OS: Fedora 24"

If that is not clear enough, I am not sure.

edwinksl

no it is not solid evidence to me

jokerdino

too bad then

edwinksl

it should still be closed as being unclear

@jokerdino you are welcome to write a post in response to meta.askubuntu.com/questions/16127/… though

Anwar

11:29 AM

Can i go to a specific question in review queue?

jokerdino

Not sure what you mean but if you give me a link to the question, I can find it in the queue.

Anwar

@edwinksl Thank you. Then I can say, essentially they are on same objective? right?

For example, if I see a question with some close votes and I disagree with the votes and want to review it instantly

jokerdino

yeah, I got an option for that.

Anwar

great! let me know please

jokerdino

Which question is this?

Anwar

11:34 AM

I have no question selected right now.

say for example, this one

jokerdino

That looks like dupey to me - askubuntu.com/review/close/621383

Anwar

I'm not saying it's not a dupe. it was an example

that one is in front of the queue. so it's easy to find it. but if a question I was looking for is at the end of the queue, how do I find it?

jokerdino

I don't know if normal users have that option to locate it in the queues.

Anwar

ah. ok then.

jokerdino

You could ask a mod if it is important.

Anwar

11:40 AM

Ok. looks like that's the only option we have :)

though I don't see why that option should be hidden from reviewers!

jokerdino

Oh, maybe I shouldn't be telling people.

Zanna

Saw nothing...

@edwinksl I'll be sure to check with you next time I feel like posting on meta ;)

jokerdino

brandishes MIB flash gun.

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Q: Archlinux vs Ubuntu Core?

I am starting a new embedded system project, and was trying to find an answer to my question: What is the most light weight linux system that is tailored for embedded devices, I stumbled upon Archlinux and Ubuntu core (snappy), but did not get to find a clear answer to difference between two, ca...

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Anwar

grrrh

what's MIB?

edwinksl

11:44 AM

@Zanna heh, check with me about what?

jokerdino

Mini byte.

edwinksl

@Anwar men in black

classic flash and forget

Anwar

time to go to meta requesting feature?

Zanna

Lol! I remember that

Zacharee1

feature?

Zanna

11:46 AM

@edwinksl just being silly, amused by you giving @jokerdino permission to write an answer on meta

@Zacharee1 we can't tell you, already been memory-flashed

Zacharee1

@Zanna but then you wouldn't know you had been

edwinksl

dundundun

Zanna

Uh oh, violation of narrative integrity detected...

edwinksl

i didn't even know it was called an neuralyzer

i just call it flash gun like jokerdino does

jokerdino

uses flash gun once again.

Edity

11:51 AM

gets stunned

jokerdino

No, not a stun gun.

Edity

Lol

gets blinded temporarily

Zacharee1

Can we have a close reason for "shows no research whatsoever"?

edwinksl

is that just a downvote

Anwar

we have -1 for that

Zacharee1

11:58 AM

that doesn't force them to research though :p

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 losing rep will make them rant back, then we get to explain what went wrong and hopefully they will do research :p

Zacharee1

@edwinksl luckily, they have rep...

Anwar

1 rep users don't lose rep

Zacharee1

@SmokeDetector wat

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Q: How to install terminator on Ubuntu 16.04

I have just installed Ubuntu 16.04. I want to install terminator using console

16.04

edwinksl

who even spams keygens in a ubuntu site ._.

Zacharee1

12:00 PM

Mitchbot FTW

@edwinksl the actual text sounds like an ad for protein supplements

so you can tell how badly these places actually want web traffic

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 eziest rep ever

Zacharee1

sighz

@edwinksl do you have CVs avail

edwinksl

yeah

why

Zacharee1

Well that would mean you, Byte, Mark and I could do some CVs soon

edwinksl

you said saturday 1 pm est?

we still have time

Zacharee1

12:09 PM

yeah

just don't do any

Anwar

what should one do if someone answers a question after a long time by just copying the other answers part.

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 and just to be pedantic, it really is EDT now :p

@Zacharee1 i have 20 left

Zacharee1

@edwinksl don't care

@edwinksl don't go anywhere near the queue

edwinksl

it is a difference of 1 hour!

Zacharee1

@edwinksl but it's not exact at all

edwinksl

12:11 PM

@Zacharee1 i am in favor of abolishing daylight savings

Zacharee1

yes

you could also just move to a Native American reservation in AZ

most of them don't recognize DST

so when you're driving through AZ with internet clocks, it's a little confusing

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 there are 4 in MA

i can just drive there

Zacharee1

do that then :p

there are two LQs I didn't get to review :(

Zanna

12:25 PM

What's the point of saving votes for blitzing the queue? Not every post will need 5...

Zacharee1

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A: I can't open other partition in my PC

Windows saves hibernation data in any NTFS drives you mount, even if you haven't hibernated Windows. The recommendation to fix the issue is to make sure you fully shut down your computer after using Windows, but that doesn't generally work. Instead, use ntfsfix. In case it isn't installed: sud...

@Zanna yeah, but it's satisfying having it go down a lot

@Zanna and people are more likely to do it if they made a commitment to do it with others

Edity

fastb00t. more like n00bboot.

Zacharee1

why do people do this askubuntu.com/questions/829055/ubuntu-14-04-5broken-packages

Edity

/facepalms over the user

Zanna

@Zacharee1 I think your meta post was effective regardless of actual implementation, so, good work...

Zacharee1

12:31 PM

@Zanna yeah, that was weird....

Anwar

@Zacharee1 that's a dupe i think?

Zacharee1

@Anwar it is, sort of

The issue is that the main Q&A uses an outdated answer that no longer works

the second answer has the solution, but it's buried below the gigantic accepted one

So I've been trying to make a new Q&A with the updated solution

Anwar

oh

Zacharee1

The last time I tried, the Q&A got no attention

what is this close reason? askubuntu.com/questions/829055/ubuntu-14-04-5broken-packages

Anwar

I saw many of these questions lately. I even don't know which one is the original

@Zacharee1 smh

Zacharee1

12:36 PM

@Anwar well it is a dupe

Anwar

@Zacharee1 they love breaking their system and learn that way ... may be

but their other problem won't fixed. but we can safely dupe it imo

Severus Tux

Hi Friends :D

Zanna

Hi @SeverusTux how are things with you?

Rinzwind

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Q: How can I batch convert .rpms to .debs in Ubuntu?

I want to install the daily current build of LibreOffice in Ubuntu but they only make it available in .rpms. I know I'm supposed to use Alien to convet .rpms to .debs but I can't find a command to batch convert all of them in the RPMS folder in my Ubuntu 12.04. (There's dozens) I know there's a...