Ask Ubuntu General Room

Nathan Osman

7:00 PM

(In voice of wonder) Woooooooooow.

James Tobin

that's LILO boot manager

Nathan Osman

What in the world is that.

James Tobin

wonder why it is hangoing

Nathan Osman

What do I do now?

James Tobin

*hanging

Zacharee1

7:00 PM

wait forever

James Tobin

try "debian"

I thought it automajically booted for me

Nathan Osman

I've got 32 MB of RAM allocated to the VM.

Maybe it doesn't like the video card...

Zacharee1

gasp

James Tobin

not usually a problem.

wierd

try rebooting

host+r

Nathan Osman

Same thing.

James Tobin

7:02 PM

dunno what to say

Haguilar91

@terdon Is an Hp Envy X360, Network Controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 [8086:095a] (rev61)

James Tobin

terdon

@Haguilar91 Don't tell me, put it in your question.

Haguilar91

Ubuntu says, Wifi is Off but it never turns on, It comes with a -17 driver and the wireless page from Intel offers a -16 driver, same issue.

James Tobin

Haguilar91

7:04 PM

@terdon Sorry, let me redo the question.

Nathan Osman

I may get better luck with qemu...

James Tobin

maybe. I used virtualbox

Nathan Osman

@JamesTobin Do you have the settings handy?

James Tobin

no sorry

I gave up on the thing :(

I got pretty far though. Just the initial setup simply bonked

It wouldnt recognize my mouse

and I couldnt get out of it

see if you can even get that far though lol

singerng

does anybody understand about how x handles input drivers

who i can talk to

James Tobin

7:09 PM

awkward silence

singerng

D:

James Tobin

lol

Haguilar91

Good day, I have an Hp Envy X360 , I'm using Gnome Ubuntu 16.04.1, When trying to connect Network Manager says the WiFi is off you turn it on, and never turns on, These are the info I got: Network Controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 [8086:095a] (rev61)

And dmesg return this: [ 6.589899] Intel(R) Wireless WiFi driver for Linux
[ 6.589901] Copyright(c) 2003- 2015 Intel Corporation
[ 6.591133] iwlwifi 0000:01:00.0: Unsupported splx structure
[ 6.624825] media: Linux media interface: v0.10
[ 6.747978] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[ 6.794945] acer_wmi: Acer Laptop ACPI-WMI Extras
[ 6.801600] input: Acer BMA150 accelerometer as /devices/virtual/input/input9
[ 6.906826] iwlwifi 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-7265D-19.ucode failed with error -2

Zacharee1

This isn't the main site

James Tobin

That is a very common problem. see askubuntu.com/questions/801074/… was where I had same issue.

One way to fix it would be to try 14.04 because it seems to work better with wifi drivers :o

Haguilar91

7:13 PM

I see, I'm asking here, because I have 2 weeks researching and there's not a solution for the issue, I tried Fedora at one point but the same, I saw like 3 people with the same issue as mine, and there are not solutions :S Any help would be highly appreciated.

James Tobin

check out my link

terdon

@Haguilar91 We seem to be having trouble communicating. Please post your question on the main site.

That way it will be seen by many more users and you might get an answer. Chat is not for tech support, really.

Haguilar91

So sorry for that, I did not know, I'll post it on the main site, sorry folks.

James Tobin

np@all

Nathan Osman

It works!

James Tobin

7:19 PM

nice :)

edwinksl

Floppy!

James Tobin

Haguilar91

@JamesTobin Your solution worked out great!!! Thanks! I just saw the post, Do you mind me referring that post, for the other people that has the same issue?

James Tobin

@Haguilar91 go right ahead :)

also upvote it :D

Nathan Osman

James Tobin

7:23 PM

that's older than the one I used

so you need to do one at a time

do 1 first

hope it is not too different from the one I used. It is definitely older.

Nathan Osman

Yup.

James Tobin

this is how far some idiot winblows users will go

bet Bill gates wished he had that in the windows 98 demo in 1998

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman That's a really nice explanation actually

wouldn't expect that from Debian 1.0

1996 o-O

@Seth another Note 7 giveaway androidcentral.com/…

Oh but it's a T-Mobile Note 7

hope that's OK

James Tobin

I can change that ;)

IanC

good afternoon people!

James Tobin

7:29 PM

good afternoon

IanC

how are you all doing?

Zanna

very well thanks @IanC how about your good self?

IanC

@Zanna I'm good!! Finally graduated, had some good time on my parents house in my days off :)

Nathan Osman

So far so good...

IanC

now back to the working routine!

Zacharee1

7:32 PM

@NathanOsman screenshots if you get it

Zanna

congratulations :)

James Tobin

welcome back @zanna

good job @ian :)

IanC

Thanks!! Wasn't really excited about the graduation ceremony, but gotta say the vibe there was really good :D

and I could see some friends from my college fraternity, a bit brief but it was fun!

James Tobin

sounds like a lot of fun :)

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 Just making the bootdisk now. Installation finished.

James Tobin

7:35 PM

@nathan for what?

Nathan Osman

For booting the system.

Apparently it doesn't install a bootloader to the hard disk MBR.

James Tobin

darn wrong place sorry

Zanna

wow I'm glad your graduation was fun... my first graduation was so dull I don't remember anything (I've got a nice photo with my class though) but the second was was kind of awesome @IanC

Nathan Osman

Hrm...

It's stuck in a bootloop with that floppy...

James Tobin

@NathanOsman funny.. I was able to do it on the next version

Nathan Osman

7:39 PM

And it won't boot from HD.

James Tobin

buzz

that's wierd

Nathan Osman

Aha. I can still manually boot to the HD with LILO.

IanC

@Zanna Nice! I think I took more pictures during the graduation than in the whole year!! My smiling muscles were giving up by the end of it hahaha

what are your graduations in?

Nathan Osman

We haz a login prompt!

James Tobin

what!!!

gee. that must not have installed anything...

Nathan Osman

7:41 PM

James Tobin

try buzz.

Zanna

nothing good... contemporary photographic arts and science in education @IanC

James Tobin

@ian what were yours in?

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman can you install a DE?

James Tobin

sudo apt update

oops no

Nathan Osman

7:42 PM

[root:~]# uname -a
Linux debian.local 0.99.14t #1 Wed Jan 26 14:32:48 EST 1994 i586

James Tobin

su apt update

dont think sudo was out back then

Nathan Osman

Thinks it's 1994 :D

IanC

@Zanna that sounds good to me! :)
You still do a lot of photography?

James Tobin

[root:~]# lol there's :~ there

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman wait, it's not?

James Tobin

7:43 PM

@Zanna does BBcode or html work in here?

Zacharee1

markdown

Nathan Osman

@JamesTobin No, just markdown.

James Tobin

what's markdown? never heard of it

Nathan Osman

And a limited subset of markdown.

IanC

@JamesTobin Chemical Engineer, but I'm not working in the area (and not even sure if I'll, I'm with a different focus at the moment)

Zanna

7:44 PM

click the little help thingy ---->

Nathan Osman

@JamesTobin It's kinda sorta like reStructured Text.

Well.

bash: apt: command not found

So much for that.

Zacharee1

is there apt-get?

Zanna

@IanC nope, not at all

Nathan Osman

Nope.

James Tobin

not much

Nathan Osman

7:46 PM

I wonder if dpkg is here.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman hmm. dpkg?

oh

heh

Nathan Osman

Aha!

James Tobin

wish I could do full fledged html lol

dpkg is here.

yay

7:46 PM

wazzat

XFree86... wow.

lol

@Zacharee1 What happens when I type dpkg.

Zacharee1

huh

Nathan Osman

7:47 PM

Which X11 do I install? "Xs" or "Xw"?

terdon

@JamesTobin There's actually a relatively wide variety of ~~formats~~ and combinations thereof that you can use.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman X11 is the one we use now right?

James Tobin

not a lot of commands though

terdon

@JamesTobin Commands? What would you call an HTML command?

James Tobin

/me sighs

terdon

7:49 PM

Oh, you mean irq style?

James Tobin

eeerek doesnt even have that basic stuff lol

no I dont mean that

I'm too used to that on other chat programs

terdon

Like what?

edwinksl

@Zanna fancy ;D

James Tobin

?

html gives me a lot of options

/kickban terdon haha

not saying that is html

the /me command is nice though

terdon

Yes, so far, you've only given examples of IRC commands.

James Tobin

7:51 PM

and skype

html? you really want me to paste html in here?

Zacharee1

HTML doesn't have commands

HTML is code

terdon

Oh? Skype has implemented IRC codes now?

James Tobin

always did

@Zacharee1 excuse my miscommunicationalismeitionsnessealities

terdon

Since when? I've been using it for more than a decade and haven't seen anything like that. Haven't used the Windows version since, um, a long time though.

Zacharee1

Skype has lots of commands

James Tobin

7:53 PM

problem with having html available is people can get your ip with that

@terdon the reason is you havent tried the darned commands!

terdon

But seriously, most things you might need are probably implemented. Either natively or through userscripts. If you'd give an example of the kind of thing you're after, I might be able to help.

James Tobin

@terdon I will tell you that I have skype on my Windows ME and that has commands

old version

Zanna

@edwinksl thanks : )

terdon

@JamesTobin I'm sure it does. Last time I was a Windows user, Win98 was top of the line and I don't recall commands back then.

This is long before skype was bought by MS

James Tobin

I AM USING THE WINDOWS 98 VERSION ON WINDOWS ME

Zacharee1

7:54 PM

THATS GREAT

James Tobin

windows ME is like exactly the same as 98 with just better driver support and easier to get LAN working

Nathan Osman

The Linux version of Skype used to accept s/.../.../ and would actually edit your last message.

terdon

@JamesTobin Please don't shout.

James Tobin

SORRY

lol

@nathan that's kinda nice ;)

terdon

Anyway, you can either give an example of what you're missing here, or keep complaining about it. Your choice.

James Tobin

7:56 PM

I already asked you if you actually wanted me to be a dummy and paste html here

hang on

Kaz Wolfe

@terdon pls dont use caps

!

there's HTML for you

@JamesTobin Can't you describe what you'd like to do? And you can paste HTML here, just use the "fixed font" button that appears as soon as you paste your text in the box.

James Tobin

7:58 PM

sigh

You can do just about aNyThInG with html

terdon

OK, no you can't display flash movies here (happily).

James Tobin

even BBcode is better than what you have here

Kaz Wolfe

i cant write linux in html

James Tobin

@terdon it isnt really a flash movie

but that type of code could do flash moview

*movies

Zacharee1

we're a chatroom not a forum

terdon

7:59 PM

@JamesTobin No, it's pointing at one, I can see that.

James Tobin

I know

Zacharee1

and why would we allow dynamic editing of page content? Wouldn't that just allow people to inject malware as they please?

James Tobin

@terdon it only changes once a day that particular one. stop telling me stuff about something you havent even tried

Kaz Wolfe

@JamesTobin ohmygod this is so untrue

markdown is so elegant and clean

James Tobin

what?

Zacharee1

8:00 PM

OH NO 50 SECONDS askubuntu.com/questions/815938/my-boot-time-is-almost-1-minute

James Tobin

the darn thing only changes once a day

Zanna

haha ikr @Zacharee1

Zacharee1

@JamesTobin yeah, but that's not the point

terdon

@JamesTobin Wow. You're kinda confrontational, aren't you? The code you pasted points to a flash file. Whether you want to call it a movie or not is another thing. And yes, I did see that it posts excerpts from some holy book.

Zacharee1

@Zanna :p

James Tobin

8:02 PM

@terdon you are ignored

terdon

That one we have implemented. Let me know if you need any help with it.

Zacharee1

o_O

Kaz Wolfe

you can ignore mods?!

James Tobin

didnt know he was mod

but it let me ignore him. good for now

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe apparently, but I wouldn't recommend it

James Tobin

8:04 PM

or is that against the rules?

:|

terdon

@KazWolfe Sure. We're just human and can be as annoying as the next person.

Zacharee1

@terdon trust me, we know

terdon

:)

James Tobin

dunno how to unignore

Zacharee1

@JamesTobin click their profile picture in the user list on the right and uningnore

James Tobin

8:05 PM

done

IanC

damn, I moved to this flat like 3 months ago, and I'm already considering looking for somewhere else

James Tobin

language!

Kaz Wolfe

@terdon okay then! i hereby ignore @NathanOsman for the lulz

James Tobin

haha

Zacharee1

:( askubuntu.com/questions/769129/…

terdon

8:07 PM

@KazWolfe Considering how funny he tends to be, that seems counterproductive.

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 damnit people need to stop asking these answers. WE ARE NOT A FORUM AND I AM GOING TO REPEAT IT UNTIL I DIE

IanC

The dude that "administer" the place is really annoying, I get a complain about something stupid every week

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe No, the answerer

@terdon @KazWolfe is the true Disruptor

James Tobin

that's a hilarious answer

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe Asking.. these.. answers...

James Tobin

8:08 PM

@Zacharee1 aw be nice to @KazWolfe -_-

Kaz Wolfe

:D

IanC

once it was because I brought a friend to get him a haircut, another time because I rested my surfboard (dry and clean) on the couch, or because there was some minimum water on the bathroom floor after a shower, now he claims I left the kitchen dirty when I cleaned everything after using it

James Tobin

lol

IanC

and it pisses me off how he just man up through cellphone texts and talks like he is the only adult on the conversation, dude has some issues

Nathan Osman

Okay, I think I have a method here for getting Debian to read from the mini-repository I have here.

Zacharee1

8:10 PM

are there even GUIs for Debian 0.96 or whatever you have installed?

Nathan Osman

X11 apparently.

Zacharee1

so, what can be done?

James Tobin

if you install redhat the 1998 version you get like 7 of them

Nathan Osman

rec_len is too small for name_len

ext2 errors :(

Imma try formatting it with the fdisk on here.

In some ways, it's kinda cool just how little Linux and the GNU utilities have changed.

IanC

@Zanna, why did you stop photographing? Just palled (is that the word?) it?

Nathan Osman

8:21 PM

There, let's try that again...

UH-OH.

MINIX-fs: unable to read superblock
EXT2-fs: unable to read superblock
MSDOS bread failed
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root

That's not good.

Zanna

Through the camera \ world's flat. Circumnavigate \ your experience

Nathan Osman

Oh whew.

I see what I did wrong.

IanC

@Zanna good advice! Specially on a time where people worry so much about taking pictures of stuff they forget about living the moment

one of the things most surprised me (not in a good way) was how many people were holding their cellphones on the olympics closing ceremony. I mean, you can take a few pictures, but then just put your phone down and enjoy the party with the people around you

Zanna

photography is great though, I just don't have the patience required :) And can't get interested in the hardware. I trained using film, darkroom, medium & large format cameras

IanC

only place I saw a darkroom was on movies :p

any quality difference about pictures revealed on a darkroom? (I don't understand nothing about photography as you can see haha)

Zanna

8:32 PM

I still kind of feel digital printing is missing something. The cameras are just about there, and using GIMP or equivalent is much easier, more effective and more flexible than darkroom work (you need 30 years to learn that), but the printing is just... not quite... somehow...

Anyway, I take lots of pictures, they're just nothing special :)

IanC

it's funny how sometimes we get so far with technology but can't surpass the quality of a handmade process

do you post them somewhere?

Nathan Osman

Fail?

CodeX

xsvga's ghost

Nathan Osman

file and stat don't exist...

I retract my earlier statement.

James Tobin

back

Zanna

8:38 PM

it's probably a matter of taste... I find the grain of the old style prints beautiful, because they speak to me about the awesome randomness of photons, while blurry pixels offend me because the loss of information is ordered.There's no rationale for that, it's just my quirky taste (I don't blog my pictures or anything no)

heh I just saw @JacobVlijm is #1 in rep leagues this week... not such a slacker after all

edwinksl

so you must be #2

Jacob Vlijm

@Zanna a minute ago you were #1 just got an upvote :)

@Zanna ah, no you're still #1 someone vote for me, quick (kidding)

Zanna

I didn't see that I was #1 haha I just upvoted this askubuntu.com/questions/815032/… which is sublime

I'm way behind you - you got 345 and I got 288 (week)

but month I am #1

Jacob Vlijm

@zanna Thanks! this kind of questions is always fun :)

James Tobin

hahaha

Zanna

8:46 PM

as @dino mentioned earlier, I got some extremely cheap points

Jacob Vlijm

@zanna who doesn't?

IanC

@Zanna I think I get what you mean! Might even relate to that idea on things other than photography

well, I gotta start getting ready for work

have a good evening you all!

Zanna

haha yeah we all get cheap points :) but I dream of being able to write answers like that lid standby control one! I will learn all the things...

have a good day @IanC

Nathan Osman

# XF86_SVGA
Fatal server error:
No config file found!

IanC

obrigado :)

Nathan Osman

8:50 PM

Oh yes, that's back when we needed a config file for X.

Jacob Vlijm

@Zanna I am afraid my #1 answer took me... (literally) 5 seconds. I was the first one to see it, had no time because I was just starting to teach. Threw the "short answer".

edwinksl

@JacobVlijm lol that mkdir answer is indeed... short

Zanna

haha I've seen that one

mkdir takes multiple args?!?! who knew!!??

James Tobin

where?

Jacob Vlijm

@edwinksl as short as it gets :)

edwinksl

8:54 PM

brevity is the soul of wit

Zanna

wjandrea bagged a similar prize with cat file1 file2 today

that made me laugh

I really like my top answer now, but for a long time it was something embarrassingly basic about how to run a java program

I guess those cheap points make up for the answers you slave over that barely get an upvote (except from @edwinksl who misses nothing)

Nathan Osman

Almost got X11 working.

Zanna

yay

Nathan Osman

I just need to figure out which xserver I need to install.

And that depends on what qemu virtualizes.

James Tobin

sounds familliar

Jacob Vlijm

8:58 PM

@Zanna yeah, it proves the relativity of the reputation system. Rep cannot be compared. Not between the questions/answers of one person, not between persons.

Zanna

@JacobVlijm very true

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