Ask Ubuntu General Room

Zanna

10:00 AM

:) happy days

terdon

@Serg Nothing, just observing how all it takes is a photo pf a pretty girl.

Serg

@terdon what can i say- i'm basic and shallow

terdon

:)

I was thinking you'd get over that what with being in a relationship and all.

Byte Commander

@JacobVlijm That was me because I still think the only reason why an otherwise valid answer should be deleted is 1) it is wrong or 2) it is a plagiate of an existing answer.

I think I -1ed all but Serg's answer there...

Serg

Nuuu, chinese folks would describe me as 无药可求， no medicine can cure me

Byte Commander

10:02 AM

@Serg please don't make me google that...

Serg

@ByteCommander you don't have to , the literal translation is right there , "no medicine can cure"

Byte Commander

Uh, it started to rain again...

terdon

I delete mine if the other one is better. No point in duplicating information. But that's just me. There's nothing wrong with keeping yours. I just, personally, think it just adds noise.

Byte Commander

And is that some kind of pun because these symbols also mean something else? I don't understand it...

Or do you refer that to your nightowling?

Jacob Vlijm

@terdon agreed to that.

Byte Commander

10:04 AM

Whoa, it's heavy rain now.

terdon

If the other answer is a superset of mine, I'll delete mine. If mine has a tiny bit of info missing from the other, I'll add the missing info to the other question and delete mine. If mine's different, I'll leave both.

Jacob Vlijm

@terdon @ByteCommander That is basically what I am trying to say.

Serg

not a pun, it's applicable to whole lot of things. Even to night owling. In case of terdon saying "I'd stop looking at other girls while being in relationship " , that's what i mean cannot be cured

gansub

just had my lunch

Serg

besides i draw girls . . . like i used to draw portraits

hold on

Byte Commander

10:06 AM

@terdon @JacobVlijm But if the ways how you explain something are different, some people might understand one wording better and some the other. Some will prefer a shorter answer, others will prefer more technical details.

Serg

lo and behold stars-portraits.com/en/community/Sergiy.html

gansub

@Serg - would superuser.com be the right SE to ask what is the purpose of libimf.so ?

Byte Commander

Therefore every correct, not plagiated answer is valid and should not be deleted.

terdon

@Serg Good grief, I never said that! I was just hoping you'd stop talking about them on an online chat room is all.

Byte Commander

I mean they don't hurt, they only add value.

Serg

10:07 AM

@terdon oh . . . that's what you meant . . . .well that too

terdon

@ByteCommander Not if they don't add anything new.

Jacob Vlijm

@ByteCommander theoretically yes, but in practice, not always true

Serg

@gansub unix.stackexchange.com would probably more suitable

it's unix library after all

gansub

ok

Byte Commander

Nobody forces visitors to read all answers, the can stop after the topmost if they want. So if they did not understand it there, they can read the second answer and see if they understand it better.

terdon

10:08 AM

@Serg It's just that it's the very definition of off topic and really not the most welcoming discussion for new users. Especially not for female users.

Jacob Vlijm

@ByteCommander digging through a bunch of answers is no fun.

....voting sais something, but not alsways

Byte Commander

Well, I guess we have to agree on different opinions here...

terdon

@ByteCommander As I said, it's your choice. Personally, I delete mine since I value keeping the site clean over the extra few points of rep I might get from the answer. If mine doesn't add anything not already mentioned in the other one, I see no reason to keep it. But, again, this is a personal choice. There's absolutely nothing wrong with keeping yours if you prefer.

Byte Commander

And I don't see why we should hide good and valid content where we put effort in from users.

shrug

Jacob Vlijm

...Because it is already there? I regularly delete answers that took me over half an hour

Byte Commander

10:11 AM

My rain pipes will overflow if it goes on like that outside... :-/

But it's there in a different shape.

terdon

@ByteCommander I don't see why you're arguing. If you want to keep it, keep it. If others feel they prefer to delete theirs if it isn't adding anything useful, let them. There's room for both choices here.

Serg

@terdon has anyone ever got offended by what i say ? besides hot is normal American English word. i am not using anything profane or sexist.

terdon

@Serg It has bothered me a bit, yes. Not because it's offensive, as such, but because it's in poor taste. I don't want this to be a room where comments like "OMG this girl in my class is so hot!" are common. And yes, the word hot is not quite as neutral as you might think. Beautiful is one thing, hot another.

Serg

i like how my gf and best friend are just chatting about translation stuff and im like " i have no bread for sandwich T.T"

terdon

But this is terdon the user speaking, I'm not wearing my mod hat.

So feel free to ignore me, I guess :)

I just don't feel such comments are relevant or appropriate here.

Serg

10:15 AM

@terdon hey, feel free to use that mod hat. i won't object.

terdon

Not if I'm the only one this bothers, no.

Byte Commander

Actually "OMG this girl in my class is so hot!" pretty much sounds like @Serg... ;-)

Serg

anybody would like to voice an opinion on this ?

terdon

Some of these are really borderline.

Byte Commander

I don't care as long as you don't take out the bad words...

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

10:18 AM

-1

Q: What is the purpose of libimf.so?

I was asked to post this question here and if it is not on topic please let me know and I will move the question out. I have an Intel graphics card and I am running Ubuntu 14.04. Twice I have had issues with libimf.so - http://askubuntu.com/questions/802585/x-windows-hanging-during-ubuntu-boot a...

Serg

i never take out bad words, i keep everything pg-13 and ~~censored~~

Byte Commander

pg-13?

Serg

movie rating system in the us

pg 13 is like teenager friendly

Byte Commander

Aha.

terdon

@gansub Your question wasn't off topic. just not very clear. Please see my edit, am I right in assuming that the main question is what that library is for?

Byte Commander

10:22 AM

So pg is parental guide or something like that?

Serg

i am not sure.

there's E for everyone, PG13 for like teenagers, and R for mature audience. Basically, deadpool is heavy R movie

Byte Commander

That would be called FSK in Germany ("Freiwillige Selbst-Kontrolle" = voluntary self-check)

Actually it's not really voluntary at all though, because all movies without FSK label must be sold like 18+ movies.

Serg

it would be funnier if it was FSCK

Byte Commander

FCKW

Serg

wut ?

gansub

10:26 AM

@terdon

thanks a million

@Serg - here you go - unix.stackexchange.com/questions/298109/…

Byte Commander

Oh, right. That thing has a different abbreviation in English....

terdon

@gansub You're welcome

Byte Commander

In English FCKW (German "Fluor-Chlor-Kohlenwasserstoff") is CFC: Chlorofluorocarbon

Serg

first time hearing thay abbreviation but ok

Byte Commander

As I just noticed myself, FCKW is only the German abbreviation. My fault.

Serg

10:28 AM

i haven't seen English abbreviation either

Byte Commander

Hmmm...

Serg

I'm no chemistry major

Byte Commander

You don't need a major for that.

CFC was used in old fridges as gas to cool them, but it's highly dangerous for the ozone layer, therefore it's prohibited nowadays.

I guess you already have seen labels like "CFC-free" on cooling devices?

rebooting into windows, starting my tanks

Serg

i haven't seen those because i pay only to food inside fridges lol @ByteCommander

*pay attention

Byte Commander

>.>

CodeX

10:32 AM

hmm its hot here

Serg

i also pay no attention to grammar because i am no English major. Although i wanted to be once

@CodeX mmmhmmm, it sure is

Zanna

@terdon feeling I should speak up here and say thanks because I don't want to hang out in an environment where objectifying comments are considered OK. Feminist hat.
So far though, I personally didn't feel anyone crossed the line... while I've been in here anyway!

jokerdino

Hmm, let me dive in.

terdon

@Zanna Thanks and yes, I don't feel the line has been crossed as such, just approached more than necessary.

Fabby

@DavidFoerster :D ;)

CodeX

10:35 AM

we better stay silent xD

Serg

anyway, from now on, just to avoid saying hot, i will be saying 373 Kelvin

because science yo

CodeX

@Serg you don't have any hat ?

terdon

@Serg lol :)

Serg

@CodeX i have . . . . red hat . . . .

CodeX

xD

Serg

10:36 AM

well actually centos . . . .close enough

Byte Commander

@jokerdino Swim away, we've got a Tea-Rex in our pool! ;-)

Serg

join our tea party

jokerdino

Thanks everyone for making this a pleasant and safe place for everyone to hang in.

Serg

AU chat is the best , we accept pandas, dinos, vorlons, and ubunuts

Byte Commander

I feel nooby. My tanks all get nuked like flies.

Serg

10:47 AM

Anybody wants to tackle this python question ? askubuntu.com/questions/802653/…

OK keeps having problems with his installation scripts

Byte Commander

Wooho! Churchill I shot them all.

Aamir

hello everyone

Serg

hi

Aamir

I am using wget -O "downloadingurl" to download a file from one server to another

Byte Commander

why -O ?

Aamir

10:56 AM

its overrwritng if previous file with same name exists

Byte Commander

But it's wget -O save_as_filename URL, right?

Aamir

yes my bad i forget to mention filename

Serg

ok, so what's the problem you're having ?

Aamir

but is it possible to get the percentage of file download, like we see in most of the day to day downloaders when we download something we get download progress bar that display percentage of file downloaded..

Serg

probably not , there's nothing about that in the manual

IanC

11:01 AM

fitnr.com/showing-file-download-progress-using-wget.html

Serg

Actually . .. it does show percentage

IanC

I'm still reading it, but seems like there is a way, using the "progress-dot" option

Serg

master.zip          100%[===================>]  61.38K  73.5KB/s    in 0.8s

it was showing different percentage while downloading

Aamir

@IanC thanks , will try it out now

Serg

So, while i am still here, does anyone wanna request another indicator ?

IanC

11:07 AM

what did the first indicate?

Serg

One is for Caps and Num lock github.com/SergKolo/lks-indicator

Another is for discharge rate of battery github.com/SergKolo/power-flow-indicator

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg what indicators did you create? (I am quite irregular on AU due to a good life currently).

Serg

@JacobVlijm ^ two github links above

IanC

what language did you program them with?

python?

Serg

Yup, python

I am doing a lot of python lately

My plan for summer was to learn a different language, but i am doing more python that ever

Zacharee1

11:10 AM

I just realized I could get tablet in gold or black as well as white

what should I choose?

pink

@Serg did you sleep?

Nope

Is there professional support available for Ubuntu ?

Zacharee1

@Serg I ain't no Apple fanboy. I don't need no pretty Rose Gold

gansub

11:11 AM

When I called Dell they said only hardware support NO OS support

Zacharee1

@gansub I think so, but why settle for customer service, when you have AU?

Serg

@gansub there's support for enterprise and server, but technically we are the official community support site

gansub

@Zacharee1 - what if AU cannot answer ?

Zacharee1

@gansub try the Ubuntu Forums?

Serg

5:12

terdon

11:12 AM

@Serg Perhaps, but not professional. No guarantees and absolutely no entitlement.

gansub

yea tried that too @Zacharee1

Zacharee1

I mean, chances are if we can't help, tech support can't either

Byte Commander

@Serg Addicted to Python :-)

Zacharee1

What's your question?

gansub

@Zacharee1 - OK AU will answer me :-)

Serg

11:13 AM

@ByteCommander frankly, it is addictive :p

@JacobVlijm Sorry, that wasn't very good answer. Basically , first one shows status of lock keys, like Caps and Num and Scroll lock. Second one parses upower output to determine battery discharge rate, in both watts and mili amps

@ByteCommander have you listened to Levan Polka i linked a few days ago yet ?

Korpiklaani - Ievan polkka

►

IanC

gonna get some rest

see you all later!

Serg

o/

Zacharee1

@Serg laughs at that word

"rest" hahaha

Serg

define "rest" i don't know what that is

Zacharee1

@Sergbot

Zanna

11:19 AM

@Serg yay got the latest version of the lks indicator & the launcher I made for it works :)

Byte Commander

I wrote 20 short programs in Python yesterday. It was wonderful. Perl, I'm leaving you.

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@Serg Not until now.

Zanna

hahahaha! :)

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg Thanks! will look into them :)

Serg

@JacobVlijm feel free to fork on github. Your account needs some software there

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg Yeah, I am a bad maintainer of my github account. Actually a bad maintainer in general...

Serg

11:21 AM

@ByteCommander no, that guy probably rm'ed the /dev/gravity Although python does give you wings

Zacharee1

@Serg that slogan is trademarked by Red Bull GmbH. Cease your usage of it immediately or else face severe fines and/or jail time

Serg

@Zacharee1 OK, python gives you propellers, how about that ? sounds better ?

Zacharee1

@Serg yes

@Serg chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/42974/ubuntu-help

:p

Serg

im doing free advertisement to Red Bull anyway

Byte Commander

11:37 AM

@Serg Korpiklaani sounded nice.

Zacharee1

ugh. Why are there no amazing Android tablets?

the Tab S2 is nice, but it has the same amount of RAM as my phone, and fewer pixels

blade19899

I'm starting to dislike Amazon S3...

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Byte Commander

Wow. Ninja'd by mod in 18 seconds.

jokerdino

no ninja mod

Byte Commander

11:54 AM

what else?

jokerdino

6 people

Byte Commander

No, I meant the one before.

That which is now deleted.

It had a -1 score and was deleted after being online for 18 seconds.

jokerdino

That yes

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Problems with new Ubuntu installation

I recently bought a new HP Spectre x360 laptop and installed Linux (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS 64 bit) for the first time. I am seeing various bugs. I don't know if the problems are due to: (a) Hardware problems with the new laptop. (b) Software issues, i.e. Ubuntu not working with the other programs I ...

ubuntu

Serg

12:09 PM

0

A: How to properly copy files from hard drive to USB flash drive in tty4 terminal?

Plugin the device lsblk to find the device name of your usb device. Naming is /dev/sdXY. Where X is any english letter and Y is integer, typically 1. udisksctrl mount -b /dev/sdXY , device name same as in previous step. The mount folder will be reported back to you Use rsync or cp or mv to get y...

please double check my answer

i am on mobile, jave to write everything from memory

Byte Commander

@Serg what is udisksctl? Why not simply mount?

Zanna

i just removed an 'r' where you put udisksctrl in one place instead of udisksctl

Serg

@ByteCommander udisksctl doesn't need root

@Zanna thank you

Zanna

it probably will mount automagically but lsblk will show you the mountpoint... I would put an example. Anyway I upvoted

you want me to write one? rummages for usb sticks

Serg

sure , that be nice. Or i can add one once i wake up

Zanna

12:24 PM

I'll do it and you can edit if you want

Serg

cool. I'm crashing . Bye for now and thanks for editing.

Zanna

done... hope I did it OK

later :) xxx

Byte Commander

@Serg Okay? Learned something today, I guess... :)

Zanna

12:40 PM

also, I think umount is irreversible? like you can't mount after you umount?

but in udisksctl you can mount and unmount as many times as you like

Byte Commander

o.O?

I think you only can no longer mount after ejecting a device.

CodeX

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Zanna

it's entirely likely that I'm wrong... but if I noticed that if I sudo umount a USB stick then I can't sudo mount it... ima test...

Serg

@Zanna actually @ByteCommander is correct mounting and unmounting are multi-action. Eject option in udisksctl actually powers off usb bus ,so you can't remount after that

Zanna

it says cannot find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab

but I can use udisksctl to mount it

also as I thought I don't have eject in my udisksctl (I thought you went to sleep Serg...)

terdon

12:48 PM

@Zanna Sure you can.

USB might be different, the device name can change.

Zacharee1

I don't think the other two answerers even read the question askubuntu.com/q/802157/274320

Zanna

@terdon I'm sure you're right, but change of name is not the reason I can't do it, I do lsblk again first and use the correct name

terdon

And yet you can't mount it? That seems odd.

Oh, hang on, how are you mounting it? If you're getting the "can't find in fstab" error, you're probably not giving a mountpoint.

Are you just running mount /dev/sda1?

Zanna

aaaahhh yes

that's it

terdon

That'll do it.

Zanna

12:53 PM

using udiskctl you don't have to give a mountpoint, it will make one for you, so there's another difference :)

Android Dev

EOL: askubuntu.com/questions/802685/…

terdon

@AndroidDev No, the question is about extending a virtual disk, the guest OS is irrelevant.

Android Dev

@terdon Okay.

@terdon This though: askubuntu.com/questions/802498/…

terdon

Yep, unclear.

If I stop a firewall, start downloading something and then start the firewall again, won't that stop the downloading process?

Android Dev

@terdon Wouldn't that be dependent on the rules you've configured?

terdon

1:03 PM

No idea. I haven't set this thing up. I am working on a system that restarts the firewall on the hour, every hour. I stopped it so I could download something and it started again when the hour changed. But, and to my surprise, the download was unaffected.

Zanna

interesting!

Android Dev

@Zanna?

@terdon - <sigh> 90 views and still nothing :( askubuntu.com/questions/796067/state-of-amd-drivers-in-16-04

terdon

And? Why ping me about it?

Android Dev

@terdon Thought you might know something...

terdon

Oh. No, no idea. I can tell you that the question seems too broad though.

And it would benefit from a little research. Have you tried finding any information about those? Even apt-cache show should help.

Byte Commander

1:08 PM

@AndroidDev A bounty could also help...

terdon

First hit searching for "amdgpu"

AMDGPU

AMDGPU is AMD's new fully open source unified graphics driver for Linux. AMDGPU currently only supports cards built upon GCN 1.2 or higher, previous cards are not supported yet. GCN 1.2 includes Carrizo APUs, the Fury lineup, and the R9 380. AMDGPU also has an optional closed-source component that operates on top of the open source AMDGPU for better intensive 3D application support known as AMDGPU-PRO. == References... ==

Actually, all of those should be answerable with 5 minutes of googling. Or, at least, some of them.

Android Dev

@ByteCommander The thing is, if I set a bounty, and nobody answers, I don't get my rep back :(

terdon

Nobody is likely to answer unless you fix the question up a little. Seriously, do some research and answer the easy ones yourself and then, ideally, split it up into separate questions.

Android Dev

@terdon Okay....

@terdon Is it possible to do superscript for references?

terdon

@AndroidDev You can use <sup>foo</sup>, yes.

Zanna

1:13 PM

@AndroidDev why did you ping me, what can I do for you (given that I even forgot to specify a mountpoint to the mount command already today)?

Android Dev

@Zanna You said "interesting!" and I was wondering what that was about.

Zanna

oh I was just interested in terdon's firewall/download phenomenon

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

1:28 PM

0

Q: SSH path clutter

When using SSH, my path seems to contain all sorts of additional, strangely formatted info. This started happening a while ago, I'm not sure if any software updates caused it. How do I get rid of this clutter?

ubuntu ssh

gansub

@Serg this solution did not work - askubuntu.com/questions/763672/…

Rinzwind

2:43 PM

@terdon terdy! tell me what is wrong about this ->

0

A: chmod 777 on a home network

Everyone means everyone that is able to visit your system from walking up to the machine to anyone outside on the internet visiting a website you host, or ssh tunnel you set up to your system. Or abuse a backdoor in your router (Netgear, NMX300 1.5.0.11 as an example). The way to revoke it is b...

@Zanna you should answer more and less comment ;-)

Zanna

where you looking? :)

Rinzwind

at the UID one yes :D

terdon

@Rinzwind Nothing I can see.

Rinzwind

good comment but someone else ran of with the rep @Zanna

@terdon got a downvote on it just now :P

AH DARN YOU 2

you and zanna upvoted me did you not? you pseudoserialupvoters

Zanna

did indeed

Rinzwind

2:46 PM

see!

admit to it @terdon :=D

terdon

Did not!

I never!

Who, me?

Rinzwind

anyone who sees a q with SSD tagged tell me >:-D 99/100 :D

terdon

ssd?

Rinzwind

yeah

need 1 more

terdon

No, I mean, just trawl through the ssd Qs

Rinzwind

2:48 PM

and stop bragging off with your tag skills >:-D

I meant a "good" q >:D

terdon

@Rinzwind Can't have it all!

Zanna

you're right, Arronical grabbed the points, but next time I will know not to hesitate ^_^

Rinzwind

@terdon Oh already got 100 of the 151 pokemon :=D

terdon

Oh man...

jokerdino

@Rinzwind ...

Rinzwind

2:53 PM

@jokerdino >:-D

he started it! not me

terdon

Still waiting for the PokÃ©mon Go update that lets you capture strangers' pets.

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Zanna

Rinzwind it seems to me you should have a pointy wizard hat <|:~)

hahahaha

Rinzwind

@Zanna my icon is related to my other hobby: watching anime

terdon

Yeah, I love that one. And I just found this one which is absolutely great!

As of this writing, Ubuntu 6.10 and Firefox 2.0 have left my computer a complete mess.

5

Zanna

hahahaha

Rinzwind

2:55 PM

and even ontopic _O-

terdon

Yeah!

Rinzwind

Next release will be called after a pokemon _O-

I saw someone fell. He was watchign his phone and missed a tree high step going down.

he was very upset his phone broke

his wrist though was of no concern :X

ehm dont understand this comment

Please, add workflow here too. — Masi 46 secs ago

what is he asking here? :X

Zanna

er... I'm guessing they don't get it and want a step by step procedure?

Rinzwind

but it is step by step already :=P

I hate answering questions like that. Don't want to test the commands :P

so answering is a large guess on what it does :D

Zanna

Yeah... you can spend all day on that kind of thing...

Zacharee1

3:40 PM

@Rinzwind tree high? like 20 feet?

Rinzwind

+h :=)

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terdon

@Serg time to put your money where your mouth is. Go translate the link above and include the relevant portions in the answer :P

Zacharee1

@terdon or we could flag it LOA

terdon

LOA? Loads Of Answers?

Rinzwind

3:49 PM

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN

Learn to Fly - Foo Fighters Rockin1000 Official Video

►

that's a lot of drums

250 >:-)

and 250 guitarists

jokerdino

@terdon Link only answer.

edwinksl

@terdon i can translate it too but the translation is trivial and isn't the main problem here :P

terdon

I know. And that's my strongest objection to Serg's meta post about translating. The language is almost always the least of the post's problems.

Zacharee1

I thought the whole point of being able to reopen questions was that they might be improved after they've been closed

so we close non-English questions so as to avoid non-English answers

edwinksl

@terdon that seems to be my experience too although i don't have numbers to back it up

Zacharee1

3:57 PM

but if someone translates the question, then we reopen it

Mitch

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