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4:12 PM

@Seth reason.com/blog/2016/07/21/…

@NathanOsman our country is so corrupt.

I think @RPiAwesomeness had it right when he called The Clintons a cartel.

That goes equally for the Republicans as well.

the governement is in general. People don't want to believe it, but it's true.

I believe it. And I don't even live there.

hey, Casey Neistat is going to Vancouver.

4:22 PM

@Seth: Every organisation with power becomes corrupt eventually unless it's abolished before that point.

@DavidFoerster Exactly! Somehow people don't believe that though.

The same applies to people, but they have natural tendency to abolish themselves after a few decades of holding onto power.

@Serg silly, I should have marked the other way around of course, since since this one indeed has an accepted answer...

AU -ing on the smartphone has downsides...

Organisations that own themselves (more ore less but as opposed to organisations owned by a small group of individuals) also have the “advantage” they're not inherently bound by ethics in their pursuit of power. And while organisations cannot act on their own behalf like people, it's relatively easy to convince members of an organization to value the interests of that very organisation above their moral compass.

Your typical ex-CEO will tell you, that they did the right thing not because of the morality of their actions but because they acted on behalf of the interest of their employer.

And they're formally correct in that their first duty is to protect the interest of their organization.

For-profit organisations that own themselves are kind of a scary thought to me.

5:11 PM

@Seth I just learned that T-Mobile USA is based in Washington, which makes your friend's service issue even weirder

Indeed o_O

I forget, though, did he ever get LTE, or just 4G/3G?

He had LTE, or, in bad spots, HSPA+. Now he can't get anything above 3G.

Because they moved HSPA+ to another band that some phones didn't support, which would bump them to 2G or lower 3G

Weird

I guess maybe they broke some stuff putting up the 700MHz Extended LTE

is his service still bad?

@Zacharee1 What's crazier is that he found this across the 3 phones in the house..

@Zacharee1 I doubt it has changed in a week, but I can ask again.

5:13 PM

were they different phones? ;p

@Zacharee1 That's my guess.

@Zacharee1 yeah ;p

Oh, it's only been a week?

@Zacharee1 Week since I last asked.

I dunno when the problems started.

Then they're definitely doing stuff

He has always had lousy service whenever I was with him, but I usually touted that up to his OnePlus One.

5:14 PM

lol

iirc he got the European model or something.

You should ask him when it started, because it sounds like they're doing a new rollout in WA

@Seth well that would cause issues

yeah but not across 2 other USA models..

It's GSM, but not all the bands are the same I think

@Seth idk

I can only think they're planning something new

besides Binge On, included coverage in Brazil during August, free Pokémon Go for a year

data rollover, expanded coverage, fastest LTE in the US

TMO y u so gud

heh, Binge On violates net neutrality.

So, G4, OP2, 5X or GS5?

5:16 PM

because of how it only works for a few things?

Those are the phones I'm looking at now.

ohh

S5

although the G4 is good too

why?

hang on

@Zacharee1 I don't agree with this particular part of net neutrality, but yes.

As long as T-mo isn't messing with the speed I'm fine if they decide to give you unlimited data towards netflix or something.

5:18 PM

G4 has a bigger battery (3k vs 2.8k)

@Seth well they do limit it to 480p

but they make sure that doesn't have buffer issues I'm pretty sure

Something tells me the reason they only have 100+ ("only") services is because they have to add them manually and sign agreements and such

@Seth both the S5 and G4 are ugly phones by today's shiny standards, so I say go for the G4. Bigger battery, more camera features, higher chance of root and CyanogenMod

best of all, no TouchWiz

That's kind of what I was thinking. I don't like 5.5" displays though :/

you might have to suck it up :p

I really like the OP2, but I'm not sure I can argue against a removable battery.

@Zacharee1 maybe :p

does the 2 have an SD card?

you have a 5.5 or bigger display, no?

5:21 PM

I have 5.7"

and, depending on what shows up in November, it might get bigger :p

@Zacharee1 no :/

so that too

I say get the G4. You'll get used to the display easily enough

and it's 1440p vs 1080p

It has dual sim and OP made one of the slots double as a SD card slot, but that was in the OPX.

@Zacharee1 I don't really care about that. You gotta realize I'm coming from 4.5" and 720p :P

@Seth I thought maybe the 2 had something like that. A little disappointing it doesn't

@Zacharee1 yeah

5:23 PM

@Seth True, true :p. But 5.5" is really nice when you get used to it

easier to type, better for watching videos

I don't have problems doing that on 4.5 inches..

and if you're showing something to a bunch of people, they can see it from across the room :D

I think 4.7 or 5 is the sweet spot.

If you're fine with 5.1" in the S5, I don't think you're really going to notice 5.5" too much

it's .4" larger, but that's diag

@Zacharee1 That is possible. But I notice the difference between 4.5 and 4.7 so..

5:24 PM

sigh

Just try the G4

I'm not really at all like you when it comes to this :P

get it from somewhere you can return it

Like how T-Mobile has the 20 day trial

eh, I gotta buy used.

So

that I need to ask them about because I don't get what happens if you leave your old carrier and decide to go back

@Seth hmm. Well I'd say just try the G4. You will get used to the screen size

I came from 4.3" on my RAZR M to 5.7" and I was fine after a while

that's a 1.4" difference

you're doing .8 at the most

sure

5:27 PM

I think it depends on the size of your hands and pockets

I have trouble with 5.7" sometimes, but I think 5.5" would be fine

sethy! :-)

zachy! :-)

my dad just got the G5, which is 5.3 and it's great to use too

@Rinzwind rinzy! :-)

I got a nexus 5x 2 days ago :D

@Rinzwind hi!

@Rinzwind ew :p

5:28 PM

@Rinzwind do you like it?

5.2

no, but that's a nice phone, especially for the pric

@Seth yes. far better than a not working S2 :-X

@Seth No SD slot or removable battery. Donz even think abt it

@Rinzwind I imagine!

5:29 PM

my S2 died 3 days ago

@Zacharee1 Already living with that

@Seth well you don't have to

So are you getting the VZW version or unlocked global?

@Zacharee1 ok. well.., my s2 has 2Gb. I now have 16Gb. I never used my 16gb sd card in my S2.

the only thng i miss is a radio.

@Rinzwind for you, it's an upgrade :p

and this was -all- about the price.

it cost me 225 euro due to a 70 euro discount I got for getting a nexus

5:31 PM

@Rinzwind You should have gotten the OnePlus Two :P

I normally would use it just to get called >:-D\

but I am now also a pokemon hunter :-XX

@Zacharee1 probably branded. Unlocked global is what I want (easy bl unlock) but a lot more pricey.

The reason I keep coming back to the OP2 is because it gives me so much more software control. I'm so sick of having no software control..

@Seth yeah. lemme check on the root status of the S5 and G4

For me, that'd decide it

Root is easy. Bootloader unlock... Not so much.

@Seth well if installing custom ROMs is like it is on the G2 and G3, you might not need that

5:33 PM

@Zacharee1 hm?

Loki or whatever?

Oh. Loki is a hack, not an unlock. I'm not sure how well it works

I will have to do more research in that department.

Doesn't seem like the G4 has custom ROMs

S5 has bootloader unlock

And CM

So I think that decides it, at least for me

Get the S5

@Zacharee1 source?

XDA

5:35 PM

well duh

lemme get the thread

the big thing that keeps me away from the S5 is the weird connector Samsung went with.

internet's being stupid

@Seth you can still use normal micro USB for it

If you can settle for USB 2

@Zacharee1 Oh really? I had forgotten that.

The 3.0 micro is the 2.0 connector with another weird thing along

here we are forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/…

5:36 PM

looking

Oh, it's ryanbg

He found the Note 3 unlock which also happened to work on the Note 4

oh that one. Yeah I saw that. But it only works on devices with Samsung eMMCs. Kinda hard to buy one based on that :/

what's that?

The flash storage.

'pparently they build some with samsung built flash storage and some with toshiba built flash storage.

oh

weird

Buy one and hope?

5:39 PM

Now that might be specific to the size (8/16/32) in which case getting the right one would be easy. But it might not. More research is in order I guess.

yeah

I think the S5 is the way to go if you can find a system to the storage type

the right screen size and bootloader unlock

yeah

especially if I can still use microUSB stuff.

yeah

the S5 may have a weird connector, but you don't have to use the weird cable ;p

rewatching MKBHD's review

question:

did 15.10 go EOL -today-?

5:43 PM

yep, sounds right.

"Galaxy Note 7 leaks show us how underwhelming the battery will be..."

darn it

0

Q: Ubuntu 15.10 stuck in loop at splash screen after update

I have a recently updated my ubuntu 15.10 pc (using the default system application) and now I am stuck at splash screen: message before looping With the previous messages looping on and off. I can get into the login screen using ctrl + alt + F3 but it also blinks on and off and I cannot type a...

boot gnome updates login plymouth

hehehehehe ^

@Rinzwind EEEEEEEVIL

I am evil-grinning now :+D

@Rinzwind I think we can give a small grace period of at least a week

5:44 PM

fine fine did not CV it ;-)

here someone star this:

Ubuntu 15.10 went EOL today, July 23rd.

thanks @Zacharee1 >:)

Say Ubuntu 15.10 went EOL today, July 23rd.

I so do not believe seth marked that >:)

but on meta it says this... meta.askubuntu.com/questions/15739/…

damn

ABORT ABORT

5:48 PM

SETH REMOVE MY STARRED COMMENT PLEASE >:-D

Ubuntu 15.10 goes EOL on July 28th.

4

sigh, I need to ping him? :(

fixed :p

there

marked

1

Q: Washing a vehicle in the hot sun?

A quick search online turns up a number of pages that recommend against giving your vehicle a carwash in the hot sun. Will this actually damage the finish on the vehicle? Will it cause any harm to the car? Or is this just a widely perpetuated myth?

maintenance cleaning

Myth debunking day.

5:49 PM

nathy! :D

sigh

>:)

FYI: everyone else uses "Nate" or just "Nath" as a nickname.

@NathanOsman reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive you'll have a fieldday there :D

Nath?

5:51 PM

@NathanOsman Not Rinzwind...

you lot started calling me Rinzy >:-D
I just extrapolated that onto all of you

tsk

you're not wrong.

tsky backy!

hmm

>
WARNING:
DO NOT USE THIS GUIDE ON VERIZON OR ATT DEVICES! These carriers enforce boot image signing and attempting to use this guide will end in misery/tears.

6:00 PM

where

That's the Cyanogenmod wiki for the GS5.

oh

well there is a CM build for the VZ S5 on XDA

I wonder if an, unlocked, t-mobile branded phone will work on TracFone.

@Zacharee1 yeah I don't get that

probably an out of date wiki

@Seth doubt it. If TF is CDMA

download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=kltevzw

@Zacharee1 sigh.

That's not true at all.

Oh. You said if, not is.

6:02 PM

what

I thought you said TF was under VZ

TracFone is both an AT&T and Verizon MVNO.

I can go either way.

oh

so you'd just lose half the network :p

Not really :p

ahh

They use ATT, TMO, Sprint and VZW

but it depends on what device you get

yeah. 90% of their devices are ATT or Vzn though.

A few T-mobile and almost no Sprint.

6:05 PM

well it's Sprint

ebay.com/itm/…

T-mobile doesn't lock their bootloaders iirc

cheap

they do not usually

if they do, they're unlockable

But if you're buying TMO, pay the extra for a G4

ebay.com/itm/…

oh right. That's why my password didn't work. TracFone randomly generates you a password and sends it to you in plain text. I forgot -.-

idiots.

wat

plain text

yep

6:14 PM

sigh

Well I say go for the G4 again

if you're buying from TMO

Well it's decided. I'm getting the SM-T813

@Seth lol :D

@Rinzwind it's funny until their servers are hacked.

@Zacharee1 money spender :=D

@Rinzwind hey, it's only $400 for the thing, and I don't have any expenses :p

@Seth and forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g4/development/…

@Seth are you not in the US? I would send them an email about it and promissing to sue them if they ever get hacked >:)

6:16 PM

he's in the US

@Zacharee1 I consider 200 euro a lot for a phone ;-)

@Rinzwind well, it is a tablet...

and it's 364EUR

oh D: missed that

your currency may be worth more, but it's not double (yet)

still 164 over ;-)

6:18 PM

oh

derp

@Rinzwind heh, maybe I will.

hey, it's like half the price of an iPad

With all the high profile hacks recently they might just fix it.

@Seth and then ask someone from russia to hack them >:)

using their mail system D:

@Rinzwind is @Serg close enough?

iPad Air 2: $400 for 16GB internal, no SD

Tab S2: $400 for 32GB internal, up to 128GB SD

6:20 PM

then there's this...

user image

ooh, variable

275k D:

So in all likelihood they wouldn't know how to fix it even if I did sue them.

27,000 SMS?

$500 for 64GB on the iPad...

6:21 PM

@Rinzwind That number is all wrong.

@NathanOsman 270,000 even

$410 for the Tab and a 32GB SD

and you can have 1/2 messages even? @Seth

see what I mean?

why else the .00 >:D

6:22 PM

Gotta love floating point numbers.

vlijmy! :+)

This is what half a message

For $3 a month, can you expect them to have good CS?

@NathanOsman wow

Does anyone else find it sad that the Tab S2 weighs .10 lbs less than the iPad Air 2?

cause there goes Apple's marketing

@Zacharee1 $7*

right

6:24 PM

@Rinzwind he rinzy! @Rinzwind

:D

n00b of the day found ;-)

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Q: Accidentally moved the Desktop to nowhere and it's gone even on restart

Damn! That's why someone said once, "Don't do other things while you are hungry". Basically, I was hungry and at that point of time I had to move a directory inside Desktop to another directory. What I should have done: mv Desktop/"directory1" /"directory2" What I did: mv Desktop/ ls (ls bei...

@Rinzwind I thought you were talking about how Jacob pinged you twice

any ideas on what else could be the issue? (see comments on answer)

@Zacharee1 he is allowed :=D

@Rinzwind ...struggling with too small sceen....

@JacobVlijm you forgot the second ping

6:27 PM

...stupidphone

@Serg gist.github.com/Videonauth/64396c2706fa8c4b51a359263bb7a9d2

back i a bit

@Zacharee1 which one?

3 mins ago, by Jacob Vlijm

@Rinzwind he rinzy! @Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 the isue is, i cannot see what I am typing on my phone, keyboard covers it :)

6:30 PM

what do you have?

@Zacharee1 it says huawei poor man's smarrtphone

lol

What do you do with kind of good answers to poor off-topic questions? askubuntu.com/a/802128/530811

DV Q UV A

But if it's blatantly OT...

Then I say discourage from answering

o-O t-mobile.com/…

6:56 PM

@Seth that eBay G4 even has a 30 day return

and no restocking free like the S5 has

user image

I wish

Live chat with Jonathan Sampson if anyone is interested: youtu.be/0GPTVAgBKzs

He was on the IE team?!

Uh oh.

Cyanogen Inc. reportedly fires OS development arm, switches to apps

@NathanOsman ooh cool!

@Zacharee1 and an Stack Overflow moderator for a bit.

and a super awesome guy.

@Seth they'd better not

He's on the Edge team

7:03 PM

noooo

he pronounced it "jif" -.-

agh

hahahahaa

That is so wrong.

haha ikr xD

Clearly broadcasting tools have a way to go.

At least on Windows :D

7:17 PM

finally RAIN!

obsproject.com

That looks pretty good.

sweet

hey, anyone wanna help me try wire out?

@Zacharee1 might make me try to get the OP2 :/

grr.

why

just to spite Cyanogen?

no, but because if Cyanogenmod dies I want a decent OS.

OxygenOS is pretty good.

yeah

7:26 PM

And updates are good.

I still say get the G4

then get an OP

what do you think I'm made of? Gold?! -.-

your nameplate's gold on my computer :p

I meant get all you can out of CM

if it dies, it might be time for a new phone anyway

ah. From the sound of the article it is going to die really soon, and the G4 only has nightlies :/

And the G4 also has Resurrection Remix

forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/…

Which is really good

it's based on CM's features, but it wouldn't die if CM did

Since it's also based on OmniROM, SlimROM and a few other AOSP projects

7:33 PM

hmm

7:56 PM

@Seth - Needs to be moved into question - askubuntu.com/questions/802147/…

@AndroidDev you can edit it yourself

done it and flagged the NAA

8:12 PM

Thanks!

:)

same question:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/802154/software-updater-does-not-inform-me-of-ubuntu-16-04
http://askubuntu.com/questions/801980/how-do-i-upgrade-from-14-04-to-16-04-1
http://askubuntu.com/questions/801757/waiting-to-upgrade-14-04-4-lts-to-16-04-1-lts

possible dupes:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/761298/16-04-lts-vs-16-04-1-upgrade
http://askubuntu.com/questions/801488/how-do-i-upgrade-from-14-04-lts-server-to-16-04-1

yikes

yeah and it probably is a bug that nobody is notified

people are saying it's because it hasn't been announced yet

or something like that

and that it'll be available on Monday

8:27 PM

could be

or they link it to the 15.10 EOL on the 28th >:)

8:46 PM

testing google spaces on the ubuntu phone

goo.gl/spaces/cq9pC9jn5iR7WAABA

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