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Man i designed a beowulf six years ago. parts it out. give the list to the guy who wanted it built. He went and used the list to get almost the same parts. but his parts, saved him 200$ total. Oh but they werent supported hardware.

guy never could build that cluster.

hbdgaf

well, you buy crap, you get crap. garbage in garbage out and all that.

j0h

Last I checked he as 8 very decent PCs running but not clusterd

it was so sad

hbdgaf

goes back to watching old episodes of black sails

jrg

@Seth trying tonight.

i just need to have a functional laptop tomorrow.

because doing work stuff!

hbdgaf

12:57 AM

sup @jrg

Seth

1:19 AM

@jrg good luck! Still haven't gotten a hold of my friend :/

I wonder.. Do you know what kernel+nvidia driver you have?

jrg

1:41 AM

@Seth no clue yet

grabbing the ISO right now.

I want to put Ubuntu on it, but I unfortunately need Adobe suite enough that it gets tricky... :(

@hbdgaf not much, you?

Nathan Osman

@jrg: Is this an actual answer?

It "feels" like a really vague form of spam to me.

But between the poor grammar and poor formatting, I can't tell.

jrg

Uh, I don't know.

i guess i'd make a note to check on that user in a few days.

and see if they continue to post junk

noobslab.com/2014/12/use-nvidia-graphics-drivers-in.html < Semi-bookmark so I can find this in an hour.

Seth

2:36 AM

Never thought I'd need a serial port...

Nathan Osman

2:51 AM

An actual hardware serial port?

Or a virtual serial port?

Seth

hardware

db9 to be more exact.

Nathan Osman

4:30 AM

So I just discovered that Western Digital used PHP to write the web UI for my NAS.

Virusboy

thats sounds very scary @NathanOsman

Nathan Osman

I'm having some fun poking around in the NAS via SSH.

Apparently the whole thing is powered by a PPC processor.

processor	: 0
cpu		: APM82181
clock		: 800.000008MHz
revision	: 28.131 (pvr 12c4 1c83)
bogomips	: 1600.00
timebase	: 800000008
platform	: PowerPC 44x Platform
model		: amcc,apollo3g
Memory		: 256 MB

j0h

I want to have fun poking around a NAS

Virusboy

talk about unsecure

Nathan Osman

@Virusboy What's insecure?

Virusboy

4:41 AM

dat NAS

Nathan Osman

Why?

Virusboy

First off PHP isnt exactly built for secuirty, second PPC procesor has a small flaw that allow certain ports in without sudo/auth certs

Nathan Osman

Well, first of all, PHP scripts are only as insecure as the programmer writing them. Secondly, the NAS is behind a hardware firewall, so I'm not terribly worried.

So it looks like the UI uses CakePHP.

WD2TB:/var/www/UI# ls
README  app  cake  data  index.php  vendors

I could have some fun here "rebranding" the UI :)

Virusboy

have fun

Nathan Osman

The contents of /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main
deb ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy main

I can list installed packages via "dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall".

It's got Python 2.5 installed. Ouch.

Virusboy

4:50 AM

well it is Wheezy after all

RPi Awesomeness

Ugh. Remind me never to read the comments section on a Youtube video ever again.

►

Amazing video! I loved it!

Nathan Osman

@RPiAwesomeness: never read the comments section on a Youtube video ever again.

(You said to remind you.)

(So I did.)

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman Thank you :)

Nathan Osman

You're welcome.

Any time.

RPi Awesomeness

And then I read the amazing (#EXTREMESarcasmHere) comments by Berta Lovejoy, "Feminist, Promoter Of Equality, Love, and Peace." & Gustaf Farthinder, "Homosexual Diversity Novelist Enthusiast and Critic".

Oh my gosh. The LACK of pure thinking skills in these people is absurd.

Yay, you're Homosexual & Feminist, so obviously, you have every right to take the simplest of things (having a lack of major female characters - which isn't true - and having races) in a novel written several decades ago, and say that it's horrible and shouldn't ever be allowed to be published.

ARGH!

I'm done now.

@NathanOsman You know that UserScript, burn chat messages or whatever it is?

I need that, for Youtube comments.

Nathan Osman

4:58 AM

I don't think I wrote that one.

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman No, but you know which one I'm referring to, right?

Virusboy

A lack of female character? They didnt read the books then. They just be speak out the arse of Smaug

jdphenix

Is this a reasonable way to test the speed of my system RAM (I have no swap when I did this)?

mkdir /media/ram1
mount -t tmpfs -o size=4096M tmpfs /media/ram1
mkdir /media/ram2
mount -t tmpfs -o size=4096M tmpfs /media/ram2
cd /media/ram1
dd if=/dev/urandom of=randomFile bs=100M
dd: error writing ‘randomFile’: No space left on device
0+129 records in
0+128 records out
4294967296 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 297.854 s, 14.4 MB/s
time mv /media/ram1/randomFile /media/ram2/randomFile

real 0m3.457s
user 0m0.008s
sys 0m3.443s

RPi Awesomeness

@Virusboy ikr. If you read the comment, make sure to read the replies. She gets owned so hard.

One of the replies almost has as many upvotes as the original comment :)

So there isn't a major female character in the Fellowship. They're out there fighting orcs, trolls, firey demons of doom, undead zombie kings who are all but invincible, and all while on low rations & hiking long distances. Do honestly think it makes sense to send a woman?

Yeah, women can also do things men can do - but we are made differently.

Men are genetically wired to be stronger and are supposed to be the defender of the women.

But, I'm gonna stop there 'cause then I'll stop thinking and start spewing off random stuff, and then I'll be just as guilty as the comment sections.

In other news, this video is pretty cool.

►

I don't entirely agree with everything he's saying - but he does have a point.

Anyways. Enough controversy. Goodnight

Nathan Osman

5:17 AM

Hey, I can "apt-get update" and "apt-get install" on this NAS. Cool.

muru

Be glad, then. Very glad.

Grrr. How long does it take SE to launch a new site? Or is Vi and Vim doomed to?

Virusboy

its doomed when they say no to committing it

abhi

6:42 AM

HI

any one here knock knock !

Yup.

whos there

Me, kinda

i am useing dia software i want to uninstall it fully so i can use apt-get pruge right ? but how will i come to know which package to uninstall ?? @NathanOsman can u guide ?

Journeyman Geek

you tell it apt-get purge dia
difference between uninstall and purge is it also deletes config files

Nathan Osman

6:50 AM

@abhi Yes, the name of the package is "dia".

Journeyman Geek

Not sure about per user stuff, may have to hunt those down in dotfiles.

Virusboy

just nuke the .file in /home

Nathan Osman

@abhi If you ever want to know what package provides a certain binary, visit this page and enter the name.

2

Virusboy

starred for reference guide

abhi

okey thanks but just curious if i want to check which package is responsible for respective application then how can i check thank you all for your time :)

Journeyman Geek

6:52 AM

@abhi: see what @NathanOsman linked ;p

abhi

you got it txs man !:)

Nathan Osman

Glad to help.

Journeyman Geek

I suspect there's another listing somewhere locally since your system may suggest what package installs something?

abhi

i did apt-get purge dia . it run well but still in terminal if i type dia than application is getting open ?

g_p

@abhi, you can use " dpkg -S <file name>" to find the package which provide it.

Journeyman Geek

6:56 AM

cyberciti.biz/faq/equivalent-of-rpm-qf-command

cyberciti, so useful, but so damned dodgy ;p

abhi

dpkg -S <filename> in this dose fine name means a configuration package file ?

g_p

Type "dpkg -S dia" if you use "dia" in terminal to launch dia.

abhi

@g_p it is running dia .

i already did apt-get purge dia . then it should uninstall dia right ?

g_p

yep, it should.

what is the output of "dpkg -S dia"?

abhi

its running some long list !

should i paste it ?

g_p

7:10 AM

paste it.

abhi

light-themes: /usr/share/themes/Radiance/unity
linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic: /lib/modules/3.13.0-32-generic/kernel/drivers/staging/media/as102/dvb-as102.ko
linux-headers-3.13.0-43: /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-43/drivers/media/Makefile
dia-common: /usr/share/dia/ui/toolbar-ui.xml
humanity-icon-theme: /usr/share/icons/Humanity/actions/48/stock_media-rew.svg
linux-headers-3.13.0-39: /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-39/include/media/soc_camera_platform.h
app-install-data: /usr/share/app-install/desktop/mediathekview:mediathekview.desktop

g_p

Sorry, this command should be used with the complete path to file. What is the output of "which dia"?

abhi

which dia ? are you asking version .

sorry

/usr/bin/dia

dpkg -S /usr/bin/dia
dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/bin/dia.

g_p

How did you install it. Using apt-get or by compiling from source?

abhi

using ubuntu software center

g_p

7:19 AM

Then "sudo apt-get purge dia dia-common" should work.

abhi

@g_p txs it got worked !

can i ask some thing ?

g_p

yes

abhi

if i have one application/software install . where can i find the config file/package for that ?

g_p

Use "dpkg-query -L <package_name>".

abhi

but if i don't know which package dose application use ? than can i use application name in place of package name .

sorry guys for this irritation n just trying understand . :)

n thnk you @g_p@JourneymanGeek@NathanOsman@Virusboy

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Ubuntu Questions on U&L

7:53 AM

0

Q: Unable to install anything using apt

I was trying to install an earlier gcc and g++ (4.6.3) for compatibility reasons and now apt seems to be broken. It appears that apt-get install behaves like this for everything, not just dpkg: >> sudo apt-get install dpkg Reading package lists.. Done Building dependency tree Reading state info...

Virusboy

8:30 AM

please dont ping me if your already in an active conversation with someone else unless you are getting my attention specifically @abhi

Takkat

8:49 AM

After hours and hours of an installation marathon I had to spend with Windows7 yesterday I again realize what a tremendous good job our devs did. We just quickly install Ubuntu and go ahead with more important tasks...

blade19899

9:36 AM

LibreOffice 4.4 Is Coming Soon With New Features - Phoronix

Rinzwind

10:48 AM

spam 1 more cv askubuntu.com/questions/579203/lipogen-rx-garcinia-cambogia

Fabby

@Toroidal: I can't see anything... Maybe it was deleted in the mean time???

Oh, and next time: (if you flagged it) Let me deal with the little git... >:)

blade19899

11:04 AM

> This tutorial has premium content available. You can purchase this tutorial and receive access to all of its content and additional materials.

Purchase Tutorial ($15.00)

Purchase a tutorials? Are they mad!?

Takkat

@blade19899 cheap, see this: amazon.com/BIOLOGY-ONE-INTERACTIVE-TUTORIAL/dp/0757500412/… @.@

blade19899

> $37,524.90

I don't wanna life on this planet anymore!

Takkat

lol

blade19899

To be able to purchase knowledge is something i don't support!

Knowledge should be freely available!

Takkat

<-- has knowledge, wanna buy?

What makes me angry is when they sell work that was funded by tax.

blade19899

11:10 AM

@Takkat Gimme free!

@Takkat Wasn't there a hacker that hacked a university because they made some of their knowledge proprietary. They sued him, he fell into a depression and he then killed himself.

Can't remember his name?

Aaron Swartz

Aaron Hillel Swartz (November 8, 1986 – January 11, 2013) was an American computer programmer, entrepreneur, writer, political organizer and Internet hacktivist who was involved in the development of the web feed format RSS and the Markdown publishing format, the organization Creative Commons, the website framework web.py and the social news site, Reddit, in which he became a partner after its merger with his company, Infogami. He committed suicide while under federal indictment for data-theft, a prosecution that was characterized by his family as being "the product of a criminal-justice system...

Thats what i was thinking of

Takkat

much better :)

blade19899

> computer programmer, entrepreneur, writer, political organizer and Internet hacktivist who was involved in the development of the web feed format RSS[3] and the Markdown publishing format,[4] the organization Creative Commons,[5] the website framework web.py[6] and the social news site, Reddit, in which he became a partner after its merger with his company, Infogami.

He died at the age of 26

Takkat

it always makes me cry a bit when the best people leave.

blade19899

@Takkat I stopped crying in my teenage years. This world is a warped world with White, black and gray areas. The good guys don't always win.

Takkat

"don't always" is a far too optimistic view.

blade19899

11:21 AM

@Takkat Yeah, true. But, I'm an optimist.

Takkat

\o/ that'll make you a winner in any case.

blade19899

@Takkat Yaaay, I won something! :D

Takkat

16 mins ago, by blade19899

@Takkat Gimme free!

it worked!!!

blade19899

@Takkat yaay!

The funniest comment I ever made:

> No. Banshee - if not Rhythmbox - works great for music management, import, export, delete music on your phone.

Shotwell for image management. Import, export, delete photos from your phone.

I worked with Itunes under Mac, and Windows. It's bloatware and generally just a pretty crapware.

It's just a pretty secretary with big b00bs, that does half the work, others can and do twice as good. But, generally your gonna just fool around with her and accept her mediocre work, because one likes to have something to look at: (.)(.)

Takkat

11:40 AM

<-- blushes - I started my mp3 collection more than a decade ago with iTunes because you could get the downloads for free from Coke codes.

Then I had to actually pay for converting them to DRM-free mp3 for use outside of the iWorld.

That's when I stopped using it.

abhi

how can we acess the open tcp port ?

blade19899

pay? I hate that word!

Takkat

@blade19899 you're on the wrong side then... ;)

blade19899

@Takkat ({-;-})

Takkat

@abhi if it's open it will just let you get there, e.g. by http://<IP>:<port>

terdon

11:45 AM

@Takkat :) I started mine around 1996. I downloaded 1.4 GB of music from various FTP servers over a 14.4K modem. I then lost it all when changing a hard drive like an idiot :(

Takkat

@terdon outch!

terdon

1.4G was huge at the time. It must have taken me about a year and a half to download.

iTunes did not exist more than a decade ago did it?

Takkat

yeah, 1,4 GB was like never to be filled up in a whole lifetime.

@terdon don't remember exactly when I started using it, but it feels like ancient now.

terdon

Yes, apparently it was released in 2001

Huh, I thought it was much newer.

Fabby

@terdon: are you a moderator on AU too? or only on U&L? (because someone is going around flagging old and established answers as "opinion-based")

Takkat

11:47 AM

that's a sign of getting older :P

terdon

The mp3 world was great in the nineties. Nobody knew about it so it was just a small group of international geeks. Everyone knew each other.

@Fabby Only on U&L. But mods on any site are mods across the chat network. So I have super powers in chat but not on the main site. There, I'm just another sap.

@Fabby You mean voting to close? You can't see answer flags.

Fabby

OK, I'll edit and ask oli in...

terdon

Can you give an example?

Fabby

Oli: Sorry to bother you, but someone is going around flagging old and established answers as "opinion-based" (revenge?) here, here and here too

abhi

@Takkat yes , but its TCP not Http so its not sowing

actuly in my office , there is ccTV camera and it got ip but htttp is secure with authentication only TCP port is open

terdon

11:53 AM

@Fabby those all look like they should be closed.

Fabby

Community protected form 4 years ago?

terdon

@Fabby So? That's just to avoid spam answers, it's not an indication of the post's quality.

Fabby

Please elaborate... They're answers that will help users...

And they've been upvoted a lot, so some people were helped by them...

(for a certain definition of "a lot") ;-)

Why delete now? Are we running out of space? >:)

Journeyman Geek

@terdon this is why I keep multiple copies of my music

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek: I don't: Only the directory listing is in my back-up...

But then: Music is background to me... Just something to turn on when guests are around... >:)

terdon

12:03 PM

2

Q: Is it really useful to flag very old "best..." questions as "primarily opinion based"?

Don't get me wrong, "What is the best ...." question should usually be closed fast. But, when they are several years old and have many/several answers I see no point in bringing them into the review queue.

discussion

@JourneymanGeek I was about 15 FFS! What did I know? :)

Damn, my internet is acting up.

@Fabby also take a look at this:

23

Q: Please do not delete closed questions with many views and many upvotes

Recently closed questions appear in the delete queue even though they had many upvotes and many views too. Some examples: What media (music and video) players are there? 52 upvotes 21k views 21 fav What's your recommendation on drive partitioning schemes for a desktop and home server? 57 up...

discussion deleted-questions

Those questions will not be deleted, just closed. \

Journeyman Geek

Lol. I still have CD backups from way back

terdon

@JourneymanGeek Ah, yes, I might have some somewhere too.

Fabby

@Terdon: reading...

terdon

@Fabby The basic idea is that opinion seeking is off topic. Old questions were allowed and these should now be closed so that people won't think that such things are on topic (the broken window hypothesis). That does not mean that they will be deleted,. Just that they will be closed and so discourage such questions being asked again.

Fabby

I skipped them anyway, so too late for a close vote on those 2 from me, but handy to know for the future... :)

Thanks for the info! (and sorry to have bothered you with it)
can you edit my question and remove the [at]Oli?

terdon

12:08 PM

@Fabby Why sorry? We're chatting for heaven's sake!

Fabby

:D :D :D

terdon

@Fabby And done, I just removed the @, left the "Oli".

Fabby

It just seems like a dumb question now I have the answer...

(y)

RPi Awesomeness

12:50 PM

Houston, we have a booted Hackintosh...

SmokeDetector

1:00 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Err archive.canonical.com trusty/partner Sources by Sagar Chand on askubuntu.com

Takkat

@SmokeDetector not all baba is baba !!!

RPi Awesomeness

@SmokeDetector False Positive Buddy ;) Keep trying.

ByteCommander

1:18 PM

Hey there. I need to install some software to use a Cassy (usb sensor set). Can somebody tell me how to install this software in wine on my 14.10? It's a .msi and probably needs .NET (?)

wine msiexec /i xyz.msi

just gives me errors like

err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 1 out of range
err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 2 out of range
fixme:storage:create_storagefile Storage share mode not implemented.

There I downloaded the msi: ld-didactic.de/service/softwaredownload/cassy-s.html (GERman version)

Takkat

USB + Wine may not work...

ByteCommander

AppDB on WineHQ says it would run: appdb.winehq.org/…

That prog would be an alternative solution, but I have no idea how to install this... sourceforge.net/projects/ghmessen2

Takkat

if Wine say it runs then that's possible... no idea about the errors though.

ByteCommander

And what would I have to do to install the GHMessen app from sourceforge?

fossfreedom

@ByteCommander that says it works against serial. You cannot use USB devices with Wine

ByteCommander

1:30 PM

@fossfreedom I think I downloaded something that would map the USB device onto a virtual serial port (zip from website)

fossfreedom

hmm - sounds like good lateral thinking.

ByteCommander

And the GHMessen prog looks like a Linux app, doesn't it? I just don't know how to install this (what to download or which repository to add or whatever)

fossfreedom

quick google with your tablecolumns error - looks like you need at least wine 1.7 to install it

also looks like you need to use winetricks to install msxml3

jrg

@Seth Yeah, that didn't work.

As soon as I installed the nvidia stuff from xorg-edgers, it failed.

xorg-edgers by itself worked fine...

fossfreedom

@ByteCommander personally - spin up a virtual machine to test the install rather than potentially screwing up your main wine install

RPi Awesomeness

1:43 PM

bother Apple for making Hackintoshing so difficult :P

blade19899

2:12 PM

LibreOffice 4.4 Released With Major UI Revamp - OMG! Ubuntu!

RPi Awesomeness

ooo

Well, I guess we know who they're copying slightly...

Looks remarkably like Pages on OS X

Not that I'm complaining, it's just very similar

blade19899

Lol, there server is down for 'maintenance':

> Down for maintenance - please try again later

RPi Awesomeness

It's been down for a while now...

blade19899

ah

Didn't they have a new gui in the making called citrus?

RPi Awesomeness

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

jrg

2:16 PM

Yay, another libreoffice "server shall crumble!!!" day

blade19899

More LibreOffice Mockups: Citrus UI ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog

RPi Awesomeness

Actually, that's better than yesterday.

Yesterday the libreoffice.org site wouldn't even come up, it just timed out

blade19899

from 2011

RPi Awesomeness

Whoa

That's way different

jrg

@blade19899 and in 2012 there is a blog article that mentioned being part of the libreoffice design team

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

2:17 PM

0

Q: How can I make the most of my non-server hardware with server software installed?

I have a standard computer device running UBUNTU 14.04 server. I'm using it for testing but I'll need to expose my work soon enough. I have other machines laying around here - some strong, some not as much - and I was wondering how I could make the most of it. Is it possible to join all process...

linux ubuntu

jrg

so there is at least some circumstantial evidence that it's a derivative work.

blade19899

Index of /libreoffice/stable/4.4.0/deb

@jrg I kinda understand why they only introduced minor ui changes. They don't wanna alienate their users, whit a user interface thats entirely different then the previous one.

RPi Awesomeness

@blade19899 Makes more sense than Microsoft's approach ;)

blade19899

@RPiAwesomeness True that. Gotta use Ms office 2010 at work. Has been out for years and still don't like the interface!

RPi Awesomeness

@blade19899 Not to mention Windows 8....

blade19899

2:26 PM

@RPiAwesomeness Blah. Some people seem to like it. I say, nothing. I just walk away.

Citrus LibreOffice Interface on DuckDuckGo

RPi Awesomeness

@blade19899 Yeah. I've never used it much more than to help a friend out, but I find it not well designed, especially for non-touch users

I dunno about that design, I like their current one better.

However, I haven't used it, so I'm really not qualified to say that

jrg

The move from 2010 to 2013 wasn't bad for me.

SmokeDetector

3:00 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How do I configure proxies in Ubuntu Server or Minimal (CLI) Ubuntu? by ubuntuusert1209308120 on askubuntu.com

RPi Awesomeness

@SmokeDetector The heck!???!?

That question is from 2012 ... :D

Or did the offensive answer get removed?

jokerdino

3:14 PM

yeah, it's been deleted

MJB

Hi all, there, I'd like to explore how cross-platform Unity is. I found an old bug report from 3 years ago without resolution. Would it be wise to open a question about that here (without starting a flame-war) ?

RPi Awesomeness

@MJB Normally we don't like questions about bugs, but it's worth a shot if you need help with a specific issue not just the general bug.

jrg

@MJB unity the desktop environment or unity the game env?

MJB

3:30 PM

@jrg The Desktop environment :)

@RPiAwesomeness, it would be more of a general question, something like "How would it be possible to install Unity in a non Ubuntu Linux environment". I know this question would be better placed in another stackexchange, but before I do that, I'd like to know if there're easy answers I've missed.

Any insights to this are more than welcome.

RPi Awesomeness

@MJB Yeah, that question would probably fit better on Unix & Linux

Rinzwind

@MJB I doubt it will be accepted on AU. It is too broad. But in general: you need to start at the init/upstart part where lightdm is activated. It all starts with lightdm in /etc/init.d

Plus technically you are no longer using a supported Ubuntu >:-D

But getting all the packages together to have an actual unity desktop on something none-Ubuntu is something else :-P

Elder Geek

3:47 PM

@Fabby dc3dd is just dd with included progress indication. No substitute for ddrescue

user136984

@Fabby Yep, that thing yesterday from James Kayla on your post got deleted.

user136984

This was the contents of the answer he gave:

user136984

user136984

So it looked like this (with a comment tagging me):

user136984

3:55 PM

:D

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