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12:00 AM
@ByteCommander I think it's that you keep plugging away with answers (rather than getting discouraged) when nobody but the OP's likes them.
 
Maybe? At least sounds somehow right...
Okay folks, I'll go to bed. My router will be probably reconnecting for the next hour anyway. Good night!
 
12:16 AM
Goodness. Rebuilding your apt-cache or whatever if you have to do after you delete all of the lists takes quite some time!
 
j0h
12:45 AM
I recently acquired a t-mobile prism u8651t is this something Ubuntu would install onto? if so, how? Will I need a micro SD card to perform the operation?
 
Welp. Wonderful. I've lost Unity and reinstalling NVIDIA drivers didn't help :P
Yup, there we go.
@luis-alvarado You are the man.
Twice now your answer has saved my bacon!
Do you want a bounty or just some internet cookies? Or both. That's a possibility too :D
 
1:01 AM
This Windows XP virtual machine is killer fast. Booting takes about 10 seconds. Installing Firefox (from scratch) takes about 20 seconds.
I'm starting to see why everyone was so reluctant to upgrade.
 
jrg
1:39 AM
@NathanOsman yeah.
 
 
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2:59 AM
@hbdgaf How's it going?
 
3:10 AM
At first I was thinking that I should reimplement a system tray class in Qt that uses D-Bus to create an indicator. Once I realized how ridiculously complex that was going to be, I instead decided that Unity users don't get a tray icon :P
Instead they'll either get a main window or some sort of floating desktop widget. Sorry, but that's life.
 
@NathanOsman 0_0
 
Well, maybe I'll try a little bit longer.
 
XP has generally not been that fast at boot for me. Even with a fresh install
 
In a VM though?
 
Granted, I run 8 on an SSD, and a HDD boot of it I did take a little longer to boot
ahh. maybe.
 
3:17 AM
@jrg So my friend runs linux next and uses, believe it or not, nouveau.
 
jrg
@Seth hm, ok.
 
He has no problems, although I just remembered he also runs xfce (it's Arch so..)
 
jrg
Right.
 
Could be a Unity issue.
 
jrg
i do want to be able to use the graphics card
for uh, you know, games.
that's the only reason i'm on windows right now. want to play gamesssss.
 
3:17 AM
sure ;)
Tried nouveau then?
 
jrg
Will have to.
 
Cool. Let me know how it goes. This should work.
 
jrg
@Seth and 4 random transactions on your credit/debit card are likely (90% chance) to uniquely fingerprint you.
 
huh, interesting.
 
@Seth That has been used more than once to identify people... as has toolchain choices.
 
4:26 AM
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Q: How to setup 2 NIC PC with a DHCP server on one NIC and LAN on the other. Ubuntu

user1944429So I have a networking setup I need for a project. On one of my NICs I need to have a DHCP server. I've found for ubuntu there exists dhcp3-server for a dhcp server. I've done a bit of research, I have no idea where to start after that or how to separate one nic over the other. I've never setup ...

 
D-Bus for Python doesn't explain how to create properties :(
 
5:40 AM
 
6:20 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Drink lots of lukewarm water through? by Brazeal on askubuntu.com
 
6:37 AM
I am running dangerously low on disk space on my Windows server.
You know you're in hot water when an update is in progress and you have 812 MB free.
And I'm really starting to have second thoughts about using CPack for NitroShare. I already have Debian packaging, so it has no value on Ubuntu. And for Windows, exporting to NSIS is buggy. I'm better off with InnoSetup.
I honestly have no idea about OS X. But I'll leave that for someone smarter.
 
 
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8:18 AM
hello linux pros.. I need help with the ubuntu software update manager. it shows error "daemon might have crashed"
 
8:29 AM
@NathanOsman: ouch!
@das_envision: Do you have a link to your question?
 
Hey Fabby. G'morning!
 
@Fabby Thank you for your response. I think I fixed it, just by changing repository server.
 
Just look what I stumbled upon:
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Q: How to configure proxy authentication in ubuntu to work with terminal when password in my contains @

Kartikey KushwahMy USERNAME is 500037280 and password is gmail@123.I can't be able to change that at any cost.Is there any way to solve this? Please help.

 
@ByteCommander: Gute Morgen!
:D:D:D
 
Guten Morgen!
 
8:31 AM
Edit!
 
But an edit will still show the PW in revision section!!
I flagged for the mods to nuke it completely out of the post.
 
:/
 
What does that lovely face there want to tell me?
 
unsure
coult you remove your comment?
 
Well, you can just click on the "edited X minutes ago" link and still will be able to see it.
 
8:34 AM
As it might attract unwelcome attention to the edits
That's what I mean: with your comment
it might attract attention...
or edit your comment!
Please?
 
You can't edit comments after 5(?) minutes...
 
Ah...
You can still delete and add another one...
 
I just thought to leave it until a mod gets around, but maybe...
 
More boscure!
You can still leave it up to the mods!
I didn't ask to retract the flag!!! :P ;-)
@NathanOsman: you still there or did your Windows machine die?
 
boscure??? you're confusing my google translator! did you mean obscure?
I didn't know I could undo a flag. Really?
 
8:42 AM
@jrg: did you try all drivers from xorg-edgers? (Not only the latest ones?)
Yes... obscure and flag.
Just click flag and ask for moderator attention...
(bottom reason)
 
I did long time ago! Didn't you read it?
But with our busy mods, it can take over a week... :(
 
Ah undo!
try again to flag the same, what does it show?
Retract?
(or am I confused about the close/re-open queue)
No, you can retract votes...
@ByteCommander I flagged it too!
We'll see where that gets us! (and edited a second time, so now it's really at the bottom...
@pinthor: did you try all xorg-edgers drivers?
(Rolling backward from the last?)
 
Good, maybe this will push it further to the front of the mod queue...
 
If one of them is logged in... :(
Seth is gone and Oli not logged in yet...
 
9:04 AM
But oli is on and jrg is there too.
see: Oli ♦
Ask Ubuntu moderator
seen 58s ago, talked 2d ago
Does anybody know whether the USA (Mississippi) are censoring some websites?
I'm just working on a question where the poster can't access playonlinux.com, but other sites work. Also no ping to this one.
 
@ByteCommander Seems more likely a routing error then censorship...
what does a traceroute do?
 
9:20 AM
Dunno. Will ask him as soon as he replied to my last comment.
But will it give results when the target does not answer?
 
yes... try it out on your own machine to somewhere in australia now...
ping sends ICMP packets and is sometimes blocked.
 
And what should I search in australia?
 
Traceroute sends UDP Packets!
 
I tested ping playonlinux.com and it worked for me
 
iihelp.iinet.net.au
yeah, but look at the names it comes up with
you will probably see frf (Frankfürt)
and stuff like that...
fra = Frankfurt...
I see:
Frankfurt - Washington - sprintlink (oversees cable infrastructure) then numbers only then sprintlink again, then australia and then it doesn't respond
 
9:28 AM
Nope. My provider, then some aorta.net in london and amsterdam, later some *.on.ii.net followed by a bunch of stars...
 
and at the 30th hop it quits... (gives up basically as udp on the last hop is disabled as well)
the stars are blocks...
 
I know.
 
OK!
Sorry! :-(
 
But stations 14-30 are blocked
 
No. station 14 is blocked and it tries another 16 times before giving up!
So I did teach you something today! ;-) :P
 
9:31 AM
Doesn't matter. ;) That guy says traceroute is not installed (bash did not recognize).
 
E.G. :PING microsoft.com (134.170.188.221) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- microsoft.com ping statistics ---
8 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 6999ms
 
is @JourneymanGeek here?
 
Doesn't mean microsoft is blocked! Just that ping is blocked!
 
fabby, are you groot (or am i stupid)?
 
Sure, but he can not browse it either
 
9:32 AM
@Whaaaaaat: ? tall? why?
 
idek anymore
which mobo should i get?
 
@Whaaaaaat: how many monitors do you need and which ones do you currently have?
Do you have/plan on using SATA Express???
 
@Fabby monitors? i'm planning to go one 4k and 2 1080p
@Fabby maybe, probably not
 
So you'll be adding extra video card(s)
I'd go for the cheaper one then...
 
dual 970s (sli ofc)
may be upgrading to dual 980s if I have money
 
9:36 AM
@Fabby He installed traceroute, but the site is still unreachable.
 
@ByteCommander: seems like he has a DNS bproblem...
butting in...
 
also, fakeraid? EWWWWW
 
@Whaaaaaat You've asked my opinion, I gave it.... If you don't like fakeraid, buy a full hardware RAID card with cache! :P
 
@Fabby both of em have fakeraid
i just hate fakeraid
huh
my cpu works better with Z97
choosing parts is hard.
 
(y) :D
 
9:45 AM
@Fabby how does this look?
i may get a water cooler
 
Just don't buy a case, but 5L of extra virgin olive oil and an aquarium and put it in there!
;-) Original and much better at heat disipatian then H2O
Why 1600 Memory?
 
@Fabby Nice idea ;D!
 
@Fabby cheap.
 
OK, budget reasons then...
 
And for what in heaven and hell on earth do you need 12TB disk space???
 
9:49 AM
@ByteCommander RAID10
 
Good idea to take 2 different brands of HD!
 
video production/editing
 
I'm dual-booting Ubuntu and Kali on my laptop on tiny 60GB!
 
i'm shocked i can keep this build below 2500
 
If you would have a bit left over on the budget, I'd take a bit faster memory...
 
9:50 AM
@Fabby if i need to
this is my base build
 
Video editing can use all it can get!
 
i'll upgrade as necessary
but really, i want dual 980s before better RAM
 
@Whaaaaaat: now I am
 
hello
i changed my build a bit
 
Do you know anyone having an aquarium lying around????
 
9:51 AM
nope.
 
Don't bother with faster memory unless you have an APU
 
@JourneymanGeek here you go
upgraded the mobo because of compatibility reasons (Z97 over Z87)
 
ahh. at work. I'll give it a poke when I get home
 
also, i'm getting liquid cooling. i'm going O/C on this puppy.
 
ahh. I considered it.
 
9:53 AM
it looks okay. not sure about case compatibility, but I have a drill :D
 
rofl. Its what I was taking a serious look at, just one generation newer, and one model better.
Oh, that should fit in the space of 2x 120mm. Which is often the same amount of space as 1x 200mm
 
i have a drill if it doesn't want to work, so yeah.
getting water cooling and paste
there we go. looks good.
 
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1886797/h100i-fit-750d.html
Will fit
 
the 750d case is really good for this
now, should i get a hardware raid?
 
9:58 AM
I am not using Fakeraid.
 
Don't use raid at all. Just use a bigass SSD.
 
$$$$
 
good hardware raid isn't cheap either.
 
yep
basically, that 256GB ssd is my boot drive
 
@Whaaaaaat: is this machine going to make you money?
 
9:59 AM
all my OSes will be on that.
@Fabby i can rent out server time :DDD
the 6tb of usable RAID space will be for storage
(namely, windows programs, etc)
 
With Hardware raid, you can use RAID5. and you can give up part of your SSD for caching the RAID...
so buy smaller hard drives (saves money)
use 128 GB of the 256G of the SSD as cache for the RAID5
and it'll scream!
 
what will my performance difference between raid5 and raid10 be?
and i'll need to get a seperate 128 parity...
 
Raid10 on 4 disks is 4* fast as no raid in reading if you use 2 controllers.
 
i'm not made of money here
 
Write = 2*fast
RAID5 (with 5 small cheap disks) gives you 4 disks as storage and 1 for parity.
 
10:05 AM
oh god raid is confusing
 
so instead of keeping half, you keep 4/5
with 4 disks : 3/4
with 3 disks:2/3
with 2 disks : same as RAID1
 
so, using four 3TB drives and one 128GB SSD in a raid5...
 
no!
 
RAID5 all disks need to be identical
so 5*1TB = 4TB
 
10:06 AM
oh yeah.
so, 5 3TB drives.
 
Just take 2TB drives
You save on the disks
and buy a RAID5 controller
 
and i'd get more space?
 
5*2T in RAID5 = 8TB
 
4X3T in RAID10 = 6TB
 
Yes!
 
10:08 AM
what can fail in raid5?
 
1 disk
 
any? even the parity?
 
Yes!
 
cool.
but doesn't raid5 kill writes?
 
Not really as it's striped too!
so you write to 4 disks at once.
(as long as you have enough cache)
that's why I would use 128GB of the SSD as extra cache to the RAID 5 subsystem...
then you can get one without built)in cache...
Depends what kind of money you spend on the RAID5 card
I'd have to look at prices:
Which is cheapest: cache on the RAID5 or SSD
Always take most bang for the buck!
Smoke! BRB!
Back.
 
10:15 AM
hello
raid cards are expensive
 
Link?
 
just browsing
so, if i get 10TB of hard drive (5x2TB), I can raid5 it and get 8TB free.
 
yes!
 
however, i need to get a hardware raid. which is seen as one hard drive for my entire PC
 
Yes...
 
10:17 AM
so basically, i plug it in, configure it, and then set+forget?
 
yes...
 
cool
 
So I've helped you a lot with your stuff, so now I want to know:
What did you ask if I was "groot". Do you think you know me in RL?
 
no
i was being 2AM me
 
???
2AM your place now?
But why "groot"? I do speak Dutch fluently, if that was your question...
 
10:19 AM
no movie character
your small avatar looks like him
 
Nah! That's a Vorlon...
;-)
 
brb mathing
 
But I learned about Groot today (with a capital G) >:) ;-)
 
okay
5 2tb drives + raid card > 4 3tb drives
 
5 1,5 TB drives?
(=6GB too)
 
10:24 AM
yep
 
then take the RAID10...
(if it brings you above budget)
 
the hard drives have to be free before a raid card is cheaper than my current setup
 
OK...
too bad, but at least you know about the technology now....
;-)
 
hang on
this will be roughly the same price
i just don't know if 1) it'll work in my system (physically) or if 2) it'll work in my system (do its job)
what do you think @Fabby
 
10:50 AM
Sorry missed that...
SAS=Serial Attached SCSI... Weren't your drives SATA?
 
there are sas > sata converters
 
:-) I learned smth too!
Never did that before...
 
but this entire raid thing is confusing af
 
Because you've never done that before... I'm reading this now: garrett.damore.org/2010/08/…
 
idekwtda
 
10:56 AM
IHNFCWTAI
 
i don't get that one.
 
$359
 
What's your budget?
 
like $20
basically, i don't want to spend more on hard drives/raid then i'm already planning to (currently 415.88)
a good 5x2tb drive selection would run me 365.95
 
11:02 AM
45$
Nah... You'll not going to find one...
 
bingo.
 
99$ some Chinese brand I've never heard of...
 
yeah no
i don't want a system that relays all of my private keys back to the China DoD
 
:D What? the Dell is made in the USA???
:P
Yeah, no... A decent RAID5 card will set you back 300$...
 
exactly.
 
11:10 AM
Remember: fakeRAID is the cheapest!!! :P >:)
 
fakeraid will also summon the Dark Lord into our existence, while singing songs backwards.
it will then proceed to delete everything on one hard drive, and watch with glee as you panic over the current sync process
 
@Fabby Phew, you won't believe how much effort it is to change a simple dns nameserver setting in Ubuntu. Just finished, but still not sure whether my step-by-step guide will work. Now it is his turn. I just remember my good old XP, where it was just a few clicks and then you were able to enter it into a user-friendly text mask.
 
@ByteCommander isn't it just nameserver <ip> in /etc/resolv.conf?
 
@Whaaaaaat Yes, but first I had to find this out,
because the first article I read suggested to edit /etc/network/interfaces, but there were no interfaces to edit and I did not wnt to create a new static one.
Then I found out about the /etc/resolv.conf
but it says it gets overwritten automatically.
So there is also the need to replace the file at every network login.
Which means creating a script (described in the second article I found).
And finally to put all those steps into tiny terminal commands to just paste into the cli.
At least I learned a bit about networking and the commands sed, cat, echo, chmod, nslookup, traceroute,...
:)
DAMN!
It failed!
 
11:32 AM
OK...
That's why it's better to do this in the router...
That way it's for the entire network and no fiddling with individual machines...
@ByteCommander You can also do it this the network manager using a GUI...
Also a few clicks away...
Go to the network manager - edit connections on the last row...
 

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