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12:01 AM

@hbdgaf Ah, good! I felt kind of uncomfortable about the whole thing. Like we were gaming the system. Neither of us needs the rep after all :)

Huh, I still have it. Wow, the SE folks figured out how to get something for nothing!

It's not gaming the system. I was trying to fix something that was broken. Someone saw that and tweaked the site association bonus to fix me.

@hbdgaf Oh, I know it's not! Everyone involved acted in good faith, especially you.

I just said it felt kinda like it, not that it was.

Meh. Winning at doing the right thing only feels like cheating, because it happens so rarely :)

Journeyman Geek

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Context?

@JourneymanGeek Context is, tedron put out for a bounty, it didn't get awarded properly b/c someone edited his answer to be better instead of answering proper - iirc. i gave him 100 rep to replace his loss. somehow, i got a second 100 site association bonus as if by magic.

Journeyman Geek

12:09 AM

ahh

wierd

yeah, weird.

gitched it

I had a wierd experience myself

Somewhere around here youtube.com/watch?v=z_KmNZNT5xw

I went to Information Security SE site, ask what best option for encrypting a partition is that isnt AES, and no one had anything useful and was marked unclear as to what I was asking.

that happens when you mention "best"

Journeyman Geek

12:15 AM

Define 'best'

In fact that's what turns a shitty question into an awesome question.

... One that is state of the art. I made a mention that the algrorithm should not be able to be cracked for 2 years using a super computer.

I've never had any success with security.se. Clarification on best imo without thinking would be fastest that provides acceptable secrecy. So my kneejerk is twofish, the closest AES contender to rijandael... and it's supported by luks.

I think I would have gotten the accept for that from @Virusboy

Journeyman Geek

@Virusboy: there's just so many variables there

Newness dosen't mean reliability

a "supercomputer" can be anything from a single ultrapowerful system to a massive cluster of systems

@JourneymanGeek hmm usually isnt super computer defined as a solitary machine?

Journeyman Geek

not since the 90s

12:18 AM

Password cracking rigs are almost always GPU clusters.

Journeyman Geek

these days they're massive SMP clusters

and that.

hmm guess then im looking for something would take a GPU cluster 2 years to crack

even if they're single CPU GPU clusters, but even those are getting rarer with division among processing units and massively parallel systems.

Journeyman Geek

Right. Next question

what the heck do you have that even makes it worth bothering to hit your drive with even a small cluster? ;p

if it means anything im old school

12:20 AM

Just spin up some tracks and relax youtube.com/…

back in the 90's I tore apart AES for fun

@hbdgaf O.o had a rough day?

I had an off day... not rough, just different. Like - "Hey, I know I said I was coming for thanksgiving, but the realtor said he couldn't show me the beach property... and you're just a side benefit, so forget all the schedule rearranging you did." Can't say I didn't expect it though. I just hoped this time would be different.

that sounds more sad than anything

I don't get sad, I get irritated, but you're not the first one to say that.

Like, someone I know from out of state was like "I'll be in the state, I'm from out of state, and will act as a sub if you want."

So, at least I know cool people. I'm just not related to any.

oh wow. @JourneymanGeek I like covering my tail. As for my data cannot say.

although it does help you, I had a network intrustion happen

12:27 AM

@hbdgaf Nah, my answer is just the way it was. The OP just decided that's the best he can do. I'm still interested in an actual answer, not a workaround. I mean, I'd probably do what my answer suggests, it's much cleaner, but I'd like to know how to force it to work as the OP intended.

@hbdgaf :/

so no retrieving your big rig huh

@Mateo Happens. Not until Dec maybe. And I'm not holding my breath.

gay

@Mateo Although he proposed to my mother by putting a key to a loveseat and hiding the ring in the loveseat and had me build him a monster rig a month before christmas then told me he was going to give it to me, but he didn't like my attitude while building him a gaming rig a week before christmas... so it wouldn't be out of character for him to show up and say HAHA.

Journeyman Geek

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12:31 AM

Anyone see anything wrong with this now?

-2

Q: Does Ubuntu Touch support Arabic?

Does Ubuntu Touch support Arabic? If so how do I get it and/or set it up for Arabic?

I've tweaked it a bit.

Also went to my GFs house one night after I passed out and drove off in my car. So, yeah. Nothing is impossibly out of bounds.

no it seems legit Seth

Journeyman Geek

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I feel bad asking people to upvote things but I doubt it will go anywhere with a score of -2..

@Seth Looks succinct but understandable.

12:32 AM

now -1

Mind you the answer is almost certainly "Yes, of course, did you try installing it"?

@Seth I'ld call it Farsi instead of Arabic. Arabic can mean Koranic arabic or every day Farsi.

I wouldn't call Farsi Arabic at all. Why Farsi?

i thought it supports the multifacet arabic

Journeyman Geek

Farsi is different

12:33 AM

Farsi isnt arabic its slovic

It's not even related to Arabic as far as I know.

@Virusboy Slovic?

Journeyman Geek

yup

@Virusboy Really? Then I mis-learned something.

Journeyman Geek

iran has VERY different cultural roots than the arab world

pretty sure i spelled that wrong

12:34 AM

As I recall, it's its own thing, completely separate.

@Seth looks better, were people voting as EOL?

No, unclear.

no, unclear. The original question wasn't so good.

ah, good

Although perfectly salvageable.

Sad no one did it :(

12:35 AM

Hey, someone did!

:)

Well I guess ;)

I just got on

Anyone see a point to this edit? askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/347161

none

its really less helpful after words

that's what I was thinking.

12:37 AM

Can you install Windows on XFS?

@Seth nope, digitalocean is a real place with ubuntu servers

@terdon I hope not

and it might help knowing he is using a cloud server type of thing

@hbdgaf But is it possible? Specifically, has this guy killed his Windows or can it actually be there in the XFS partition?

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Q: Windows 7 boot option missing after installing CentOS 7, how to have dual boot option?

After installing Centos7, windows 7 is not showing at the boot time. Centos 7 is accessible. My boot folder entries: [root@localhost boot]# ls -ltr total 89176 -rw-------. 1 root root 2840084 Jun 30 07:17 System.map-3.10.0-123.el7.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 122059 Jun 30 07:17 config-3....

centos boot grub2

http://askubuntu.com/review/first-posts/347103

Seth this has been flagged spam

12:39 AM

no idea. windows on XFS makes about as much sense as this sprint commercial youtube.com/watch?v=LbzUKHoSHDA

XFS doesnt make much sense standalone

@terdon I had a drive that ran that, yikes

@Virusboy hmm, nothing wrong with it as far as I can see.

I put no action neeeded put wasnt sure why the system flagged it

@hbdgaf oooookay

12:41 AM

ah, spam ram using some internal stats.

@Mateo So it is actually possible? Damn, next question is whether or not grub can detect a Windows install on XFS.

@Seth That's new.

@Virusboy If it isn't spam no need to do anything special, the system can be wrong (like it was this time)

was a networked drive running a striped down 64 bit linux, so basically the controller died and couldn't really be read anywhere else

even though I think the actual drive was fine

1:30 AM

loving anaconda. it should be installable via apt-get... sadly it's not.

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Anaconda

maybe saying anaconda should be installable via apt-get is a little obtuse... but miniconda defs should be installable, so you can conda install somelib=someversion and have it just work for people.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

1:48 AM

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Q: Connect OpenVPN server on Ubuntu Guest VM

Setting up OpenVPN server on Ubuntu Server VM and trying to connect to it from HOST Windows 8 but had no luck. There is no connection. Whats wrong? Everything was did with this tut: http://lintut.com/install-openvpn-on-ubuntu-server/ /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > 1 guest network - bridge ada...

ubuntu virtualbox vpn

2:25 AM

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I couldn't stop laughing at that xD

RPi Awesomeness

Yay! Firefox profile restored, back to my normal web browsing

@Lucio what's tox?

a virtual environment testing suite for python

RPi Awesomeness

Ah :)

something old and odd :P

anaconda is like binary packages + venvs + win in a candy wrapper.

RPi Awesomeness

2:29 AM

@hbdgaf Dang, I didn't know Nicki Minaj was such a geek.

3

@hbdgaf it looks sweet indeed

@RPiAwesomeness LOL

RPi Awesomeness

@Lucio :D

If I just copy/paste my /usr/share/fonts folder (from my previous install) to my new install, will it cause any problems?

smh, just smh at what people recognize.

@hbdgaf you made it there dude

@RPiAwesomeness you are gonna be the first person to try it out

RPi Awesomeness

@Lucio And awaaay wee goooooo!

2:32 AM

sure :)

@Lucio I'm going to take that as a compliment.

I can't stop playing it! :|

I had it on loop most of the day. It makes everything easier. I want to listen to it on headphones at work.

I thought, "oh ok, lets move on" but then the tab remain there and now it is still playing...

@hbdgaf I would kill you for the later XD

ouhh, it stopped :(

RPi Awesomeness

W ee. gh yas tsujeee ```ee f` ee`

2:35 AM

hehe, that's right

@Lucio if you needed extra lulz youtube.com/watch?v=MDux8ISMaw8

RPi Awesomeness

^ and that is what happens when I attempt to type whilst my computer is lagging. Crikey, had to kill Firefox

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wait for it... you'll laugh

it is silence

OMFG

that isn't true

RPi Awesomeness

2:38 AM

That moment when you're getting slightly ticked off at your PC for not unmounting your eHDD and you then realize you've got a .img file mounted...

that cannot be real

I know. I'm awesome. No need to thank me for exposing you to that horrifying display.

just look at the fat dude at the left!

speech less

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I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING RIGHT NOW

You're welcome.

I am still shocked

the left dude does *not* stop xDD

oh wait, he is a bit tired now O.O

^ that moment he put so much effort that in seconds later will pay for it

funny to see the motivation that he receives at watching that his partners are dancing and didn't run out

2:49 AM

I put out a call for takers to put yackety sax on the overhead PA at my brand of workplace on black friday. I will be unsurprised but pleased if I get a video of the event.

what does PA stands for?

it's like overhead speaker. if you're in a place and there are speakers where they page out "Customer needs assistance on aisle 7" a PA is that

wiki: pa system

hm, no go.

aha.

Public address system

A public address system (PA system) is an electronic sound amplification and distribution system with a microphone, amplifier and loudspeakers, used to allow a person to address a large public, for example for announcements of movements at large and noisy air and rail terminals. The term is also used for systems which may additionally have a mixing console, and amplifiers and loudspeakers suitable for music as well as speech, used to reinforce a sound source, such as recorded music or a person giving a speech or distributing the sound throughout a venue or building. Simple PA systems are often...

@Lucio --^

wait, it is something like "Clean needed at room 5"

@Seth ahhh

that photo provides a great idea :D

haha, ikr!

(I know right)

2:53 AM

I got that :P

it is there

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Q: I saw something in chat I don't understand

What are some of the common chat items? I want to understand what people who are more familiar with other chat clients are trying to say to me.

discussion chat

in other news youtube.com/watch?v=x-MYEGaXGxI

@Lucio Ok :P

@Lucio thanks for pointing at it. i knew it was a good idea when i did it, but people actually fought me on it.

I cannot be more grateful at your idea and maintain of it :)

:) thanks.

2:58 AM

thanks seth ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

:D

PA is rare enough that it doesn't need to be in the answer/question though.

heh, kinda agree

who listen korn anyway?

jk :P

@LucioIO \uddc3 is not a valid unicode char. \u00f1 is ñ

Tweeted by EricChaskes on November 26, 2014 at 3:00 AM in reply to LucioIO

sad he isn't here

@eric ?

maybe not many, but people should know at least three songs from the soundtrack, and one of them is youtube.com/…

hey, it is morello

3:04 AM

@Lucio Ask Ubuntu via Twitter!

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\o/

FTW

funny.

as hell, another reply :P

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no, I meant that's funny --^

haha

3:05 AM

>.>

forgot to switch keyboard layouts back.

you were right, location is funny :-)

that and $tox

I'm gonna need of your help once again Andrew

O.o what broke this time Lucio?

oh no, nothing is broken

just needing some guidance over a big sys architecture

3:11 AM

how big

I'll answer if I have any input, but I might not... unless we're both Andrews and you were talking at him. Just be clear.

ouch

ñ. Spanish also breaks conversations :P

>>

I'm not trying to be ugly, I'm trying to answer if you were talking at me or shutting up if you weren't

wait your Andrew?

3:14 AM

@Virusboy I'm an Andrew.

@Seth Why is your system called Johnson?

@Virusboy you're****

Names and Lastnames are starting to show up at the dark..

@Whaaaaaat 'cause I'm terrible at naming things.

@Whaaaaaat i dont speak ****
@hbdgaf as am I

@Virusboy he meant 'your' should be "you're".

3:15 AM

@Virusboy That's exactly what I meant.

@hbdgaf I have *zero* idea about making secure connections between mobiles app and a server

***** (or even just *) is a common way to say "correction"

(nicely, usually)

@Seth thought the server filtered something out

@Virusboy ah, nope, no filtering here 'cept the manual kind ;)

that's my problem, lack of information. I'm trying to search around but don't know where to start. Also, hard concepts are used and as a not expert it is even harder to start with something

3:17 AM

@Seth My system is named wolf-<OS Name>

and my server is named... guess...

@Lucio If that's what you're after virusboy might be a better Andrew,

server

hmm unless its a vpn I'm out

@Virusboy what are you trying to do?

:(

3:18 AM

@Whaaaaaat server@<OS Name>?

@Whaaaaaat kitten-<black|white|yellow>

oh lol

hey, it would be a good plan

Since most of your data is either Wifi or Mobile VPN would be your best choice.

the server is public on the net

3:20 AM

yes

the mobile needs an internet connection

that simple

no idea where authentication is :S

oh thats it?

yep

and turntble.me is down as i am about to recommend the hannibal playlist.

/me is profoundly sad that something that epic doesn't exist any more

I always confuse tumblr with thumblr

@hbdgaf :O

3:21 AM

no, they actually shut down. fo realz.

@hbdgaf O.o it is working

Ok let me get this straight you need your mobile, which I assume has an OTA connection to find a server in which you have privs on

i should name my server rm -rf / --no-preserve-root

hannibalsmusic.tumblr.com/episodes is working, trntble.me is broken for me.

@Whaaaaaat i'ld stop right about now before someone gets profoundly irritated.

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3:24 AM

whats so profoundly irritating about naming a server?

because if someone accidentally runs /etc/hostname

but but... THATS AMUSING!

I can see one of my clients on a VM...

@Lucio must be country specific. it's down for me and google says it's shut down as a venture.

"I accidentally typed /etc/hostname instead of cat /etc/hostname and now my server isn't booting." ~Average client

3:27 AM

@Lucio it's back for some reason, but try googling it. it seems to either be going away, or having a naming confusion.

@Whaaaaaat Oh how I would love to be the IT support person to handle that

@hbdgaf takes the next listening as the last one ever

@Virusboy "* sigh *. You know what? You don't even DESERVE to have a computer. Please accept this 'PDF' file." ~Me as IT staff

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@Lucio makes a list for a youtube playlist.

3:29 AM

download the server.

@Whaaaaaat your right I am better suited for Dev stuff

@Virusboy Want to work as marketing? You get 5% commission as your paycheck.

@Lucio unless you already have a list... if you do, i'ld like it please

I already have a semi-capable dev staff and it staff.

now we are communicating :D

3:30 AM

(IT staff is really just a bunch of monkeys, dev staff is me and a dog)

@lucio Over the Air.

thanks

used by cell providers to say "updates we don't let you control"

Let me make a guess, Chinese people like OTA

@hbdgaf replaces OTA server in /etc/hosts with 127.0.0.1

3:33 AM

reduces his personal noise list.

yes but mainly as an idea. Do you have the location of the server on file

talking about server names

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I love it!

@Lucio I CALL PS1 HACKING

PSN*

3:35 AM

PS1**

XBOX***

PS1****

@Lucio as opposed to schadenfreude@oubliette.org

right

XBOX1******

3:36 AM

export PS1="picard@stargrazer.starfleet.federationofplanet.mil:~$"

@Virusboy so yes?

try it in your terminal.

yes do it

try it virusboy.

it's not dangerous.

im on windows so it wont be as funny

3:38 AM

@Lucio, you've been found out.

wishes DOS was useful on Windows

You should have at least placed a space between the : and the \p, and also before the $. Following standards is important

This is my preferred PS1: wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/…

Linux doesnt follow standards, it makes shit up as it goes and sticks its tongue out at you if you say anything about standards.

@Virusboy GNU/POSIX

Right because we all know how much that changes every year /sarcasm

3:43 AM

@Virusboy You're kidding right?

yea no forgot the end part multitasking

The current version of POSIX came out in 2008. Hardly something that "changes every year".

its only changed 4 times in its lifetime iirc.

AAaaa!

just notices "/sarcasm" and feels like an idiot

terdon has a RSS channel looking for "POSIX" on *.SE

3:45 AM

I had just added it when you hit enter

:)

@terdon don't feel bad, there were some posts earlier that read [removed for stupidity]

@Lucio I prefer to call it my bat sense.

hey people, stop whatever you are doing. Dinosaurs are back

No, Power Rangers do not count.

3:46 AM

@Lucio Awww, no fair! :P

I'm talking about the new Jurassic Park

if not, ask @jokerdino

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heh, I saw that one a couple of days ago

laughed hard at that

Wait another one? uugh

yeah, IKR

3:48 AM

@hbdgaf Evil :)

With same actors. This time they are the dynos

I am a Stegosaurus

Journeyman Geek

No you arn't. You're... some blue thing. ;p

omg theres an 8th one

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4:00 AM

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hum.. suddenly this became a japanese room -_-

that is my expression to you good sir!

I have no idea where to start still, but at least I know what OTA stands for now :)

So you want t connect your app to your server

@Virusboy Youtube subscriptions. I am going to catch a Slowpoke and name it Virusboy.

4:04 AM

@Virusboy yes

@Whaaaaaat no you wont

Yes I will.

@lucio Yea your app has to have a host server command/file. Past that I havent done much with android dev stuff

command/file?

do you mean the server connections settings in a file on the app, right?

yes it needs to know where it is sending and receiving information from

4:07 AM

ah, ok

that's fine, simple

but what about authentication

Idk how apps use handshakes

who may I know from a server side recognize a client

@Virusboy oh

wait, that is a good string to search :D

it is

now I have somewhere to start!

There isn't a great tuto out there, so this is gonna take a long time

Thanks for the help Andrew!

np

4:34 AM

hi guys!

sup danatela

@Danatela you always coming late :)

sup

im bored, lets sudo rm -vf everything

hehe, okay

@Lucio I just don't track everything

@Danatela you should

4:57 AM

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oh lord

that was a big speedrun

that is the call to sleep

?

sleep

In animals, sleep is a naturally recurring state characterized by altered consciousness, relatively inhibited sensory activity, and inhibition of nearly all voluntary muscles. It is distinguished from wakefulness by a decreased ability to react to stimuli, and it is more easily reversible than being in hibernation or a coma. During sleep, most systems in an animal are in a heightened anabolic state, accentuating the growth and rejuvenation of the immune, nervous, skeletal, and muscular systems. Sleep in non-human animals is observed in mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians, and fish, and in some...

5:00 AM

I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO PALLET TOWN!

why is it the call to sleep?

night

later Lucio

gnight

@Whaaaaaat pokemon.

5:00 AM

@Lucio i dun get it.

@Virusboy YOU WERE CAUGHT IN PALLET TOWN

IM NOT EVEN LVL 5 IM LVL 9001~

no. you're level 5

;(

You should really be asking how there was a slowpoke in pallet town

and how i got a lv 5 slowpoke.

its not hard to get a Slowpoke in Pallet town yet alone lvl 5

5:04 AM

uhm...

you cannot capture pokemon in towns/cities

and slowpokes do not appear in the wild at lv 5

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