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jrg
12:11 AM
Adios.
 
12:34 AM
Hi everyone from Costa Rica!
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jrg
New address?
 
@jrg Yes, Costa Rica, but I have yet found where I will be living for a while. Still locating with my future wife where we will be staying.
 
@LuisAlvarado Hey! How's it going? :D
 
@Seth Hi buddy!!!
 
jrg
@LuisAlvarado sweet!
 
12:45 AM
Well bit scare, new city, still getting used to the long distances to travel and looking for work in several places. But climate is perfect the people are very friendly and am positive
 
@LuisAlvarado Well good luck! (finding a job, house, etc)
Well I'm still going to learn QML, despite the lack of documentation.
I actually asked Michael Hall about that...
 
same here
a bit of lack of doc
 
yeah :(
 
Well take care Seth and jrg. Big hug
 
\o/
 
12:57 AM
@LuisAlvarado Take care!
 
jrg
1:15 AM
take it easy!
 
1:42 AM
@LuisAlvarado Glad to hear about you. So you are locating in CR, that is a nice place. I have a friend of vacations around there. You'll love it.
Well, good luck and think positive ;)
Un abrazo querido!!!
 
@Lucio What does this mean? Something about a hug..
 
@Seth the thing about "querido" I don't find a equivalent in english... but it's something like "A hug, good pal"
 
@Braiam Ah, OK thanks.
 
2:09 AM
@jrg looks like there's one guy who doesn't like you and is trying to reverse edits that were grammar fixes, if he wants to he can yell at me now since I did the revision to undo their deconstructive edits this time.
 
anyone have any idea how to install ubuntu 12.04 server along side existing windows 7 desktop
 
@John back up the data you want to keep on Windows, open the LiveUSB, manually partition via the installation by hand?
because server doesn't have a "side by side" feature you have to manually do such an isntall.
@John why do you need server though?
@John because server stuff can be installed on the GUI desktop version.
 
i am going to remote access both of them as it is, screens broken on a laptop, i have a a sever app i am coding on and was going to play around with it for development, i want to keep the windows for software testing,
 
@John well, if the screen is broken, how're you using windows :P
 
remote access over an internal network is the plan, right now i got it hooked up to a monitor,
 
2:19 AM
you can set the same thing up on a GUI setup, you aren't obligated ot use "server"
and the "server" install just omits the GUI stuff, and gives you a selection window for things
but if you want to, you can boot to a LiveUSB, manually resize the Windows partition, then tell the server installer to install to the empty space you made later.
 
wouldnt the GUI slow the systems performance running the app
 
depends, what's the app?
 
an mmorpg server
 
never noticed any slowdown beyond milliseconds of slow down
ahhh
that's more than just an application
if you're running a server like that a laptop's resources probably won't be sufficient...
 
im not hosting more than a handful of people for testing, its just for development,. i do that now on my desktop
 
2:24 AM
what's the specs on the system, RAM, etc.
and what's the minimum specs for the mmorpg server (it should be listed somewhere :P)
 
on my laptop technically, 2.2 ghz duel 3 gb ram
 
"the system" meant the laptop or whatever you're running it on, but the mmorpg software probably has a minimum specs requirement for their server software
 
its enough, its more than the syystem i am on now has and it can handle it, i know what i am talking about
 
but i don't think the GUI would slow down your app
not significantly, but you can run it in non-GUI mode i think afterwards
but as i said, if you want to install via the server install resize your partitions manually first
and back up your data in Windows first.
yawn okay, i've been up since 06:00 and it's 22:27 now :/
sleeps
 
 
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9:15 AM
 
9:37 AM
@jrg ^^
They should just say use Webkit enabled browser
 
nearly everything is webkit based these days
I find it annoying ;p
likes variety
 
I don't like variety I like Firefox :p
 
9:53 AM
lol
thats what I run
I also have instances of older browsers in case I need them for anything
Like netscape and opera for OS/2 ;p
 
hmmm netscape? where did you get that. Can you share?
 
lol
with os/2 ;p
cough
got a vm off a one eyed friend
thoooo
 
hehehe what would you want to test on os/2?
 
for mainstream OSes...
@mojo706: odd little bet I haven't won yet
I told someone I could run a forum on the most obscure, improbable platform possible
 
hehe
 
10:00 AM
been busy with work and life tho
 
I'd also like to see that
 
lol
at some point ;p
 
:)
 
(also, got a fat load of rep off screenshots of it ;p)
 
do show
 
10:03 AM
50
A: Why can't old PCs view modern sites?

Journeyman GeekSimply, a lot of modern HTML features we take for granted did not exist back in those days. There are attempts to build 'modern' browsers for older OSes - classilla, for example. You can easily load up linux onto a suitable PII or PIII system and still be able to handle a basic modern webpage. ...

 
seen
 
(and yeah, its possible to hunt down a 'modern' browser for OS/2. Much to my shock. Opera works reasonably well)
 
Opera version?
 
10:22 AM
5 I think
 
that is modernish
 
5.12
it renders google ;p
I primarily JUST needed that for a fair comparison, since google is the simplest website people come across routinely IMO
 
the one I just saw? is that the Google fallback
 
nope
its the normal google webpage rendered VERY badly
they're both the same page
 
the opera one looks like a stripped down version
 
10:25 AM
in which case netscape even renders that badly ;p
 
hehehe
 
nope
URL renders the full site to me
on a web browser 20 years newer ;p
 
:)
 
lol
its hillarious to actually say that
I even tried SE chat
 
almost as old as me
 
10:27 AM
that failed tho XDXDXD
 
too much js
 
needs a lot of HTML5
 
but its fine. its good to move on
sadly everyone's moving to webkit
 
except google ;p
who are forking
 
its still the same. Just like forking Debian to make Ubuntu or Crunchbang
 
10:34 AM
oh, and k-meleon who are stuck on an old version of gecko
 
:(
 
(they use the embedded version, which is no longer supported)
 
I used it about once or twice in 2009 that was it I've been using firefox ever since
their latest news on sourceforge is 3 years old :(
 
yeah
It was nice on older systems
VERY little memory use
 
I wonder what happened to firefox its such a resource hog (although it has reduced but it still uses too much memory)
 
10:40 AM
@mojo706: featuritis. and websites are more complex
 
full of tables
 
(and chrome splits up into many processes)
there's a guy on RA who has thousands of tabs on FF tho
enough for it to... act odd
 
RA?
 
root access
 
oh :) link?
 
10:44 AM

 Root Access

For all you Super Users out there. You have backups, right?
hm. actually
I wonder whatever happened to dillo
amusingly, not what I was thinking of
was a crappy little lightweight browser that came with a XP varient
 
I'm going to try this now
I'll show you
 
I could walk over to the linux box to check ;p
 
you have it?
 
I can install it ;p
 
I've downloaded it already just reading readme
 
10:49 AM
its primarily a test-box
 
luck you
I am at work
just a bit free
 
lol
I have tt-rss running on it
I need to get my torrent client set up on it too
 
could you like have a torrent server
 
probably
;p
I'd rather have an old clapped out laptop running 24/7 than my desktop
tho I might just swap it out for a raspi or a cheap netbook
 
what kind of client do you know that runs on terminal.
 
10:52 AM
@mojo706: terminal, no
I run qtbitorrent with a webui
If I was going with terminal, I'd go with rtorrent
 
rtorrent runs from within the terminal?
 
yup
rTorrent is a text-based ncurses BitTorrent client written in C++, based on the libTorrent libraries for Unix, whose author's goal is “a focus on high performance and good code”. Technical details The library differentiates itself from other implementations by transferring data directly between file pages mapped to memory by the mmap() function and the network stack. On high-bandwidth connections, it claims to be able to seed at 3 times the speed of the official client. rTorrent packages are available for various Linux distributions and Unix-like systems, and it will compile and ru...
 
thanks I might try this
especially at work :p
 
Oli
@mojo706 Transmission and Deluge also have terminal clients
 
@Oli does the one by transmission ship by default like the Transmission GUI?
 
Oli
11:04 AM
Oh and don't forget lots of these have web interfaces too.
@mojo706 pass. Transmission will need you to run transmission-daemon before you run a client. I think deluge's server is deluge-server or some-such.
And transmission-daemon lives in its own package (transmission-daemon)
 
thanks let me research. Oh which one would you recommend?
 
Oli
Depends what you need from your torrent client. If you need things like RSS (and you're not using flexget) Transmission might be a bit simple... But the web interface is solid. Deluge is pretty comprehensive.
 
ok thanks
 
11:29 AM
@mojo706: a good thing to try is to see if there's a -nox package
with qtbitorrent, i just install that for the web client ;p
 
ok.
did you get dillo working
:)
 
lol
forgot
got sidetracked by dinner
 
:( I'm hungry now
 
lol
I helped make dinner too
 
staahp I already had lunch
 
11:41 AM
I smell food from this direcction, and look what I found \o/
someone will give me dinner :D
 
lol
(mom was making chapatti, and needed someone flip em ;p)
 
aaah my favourite
we also have Chapatti in Kenya o/
 
lol
flatbread is the OTHER universal food ;p
 
thanks to the guys from India who came to build the railway. I am forever grateful for chapatti
 
11:58 AM
0
Q: Linux. Why apt-get remove only few kB?

Scotti installed nginx (sudo apt-get install nginx) and i removed it with sudo apt-get remove nginx .. i wonder why only 90kB was removed when i downloaded many MB ? Thank you edit: i need ensure that application is uninstalled and cannot be runned

 
12:21 PM
Hello people of the internet! I need your help! Can you link me to all questions about "installing Ubuntu"; whether it's alongside Windows, or installing it as the only OS, installing it and deleting Windows, using the "Something Else" option, using "Alongside" option..everything! I also want questions on "how to create a bootable USB to install Ubuntu".
 
Oli
@Alaa Most of them should be under askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/installation
 
The reason is that I want to start typing up a guide on "how to install Ubuntu" that will (hopefully) cover all scenarios. It's going to start with a question of "How to install Ubuntu", and in the question there will be an index and links to answers (and other questions) that answer "how do I install Ubuntu without losing anything in Windows", "completely remove windows", and so on and so on.
@Oli hmm, yeah good idea. I'll check it out.
But a question though: the guide that I want to do is probably going to link lots of questions and answers. I'll probably post a question myself and answer it (and maybe make it a community wiki) with steps and screenshots and all that.
So everything will be "linked together".
So the question is: what would happen to the other questions/answers that are already here on AskUbuntu?
Given that I couldn't "integrate" them with this guide?
I mean, would the questions/answers that I'll post be useless?
Since they'll probably be "duplicates" of the others.
 
Oli
@Alaa If it's a better post than what currently exists, we'd close those against yours as a duplicate.
 
Okay cool. Thanks.
 
Oli
It does rely on your post being better. There's no point writing a "How to fix every problem with Ubuntu" post because nobody will find it but there are super-questions like: askubuntu.com/questions/162075/… that work as troubleshooting starters.
 
12:32 PM
is there a way to do apt-get update silently? like with a q option
 
@mojo706 sudo apt-get update -qq.
 
thanks @Alaa
 
@Oli yup okay. That's why I'm on a quest for looking for all the super questions on installing Ubuntu =D, and possibly use it as an answer to the guide.
 
12:59 PM
@Alaa use the "how to install ubuntu?" question, and create a darn table of contents! D:<
 
-1
Q: Ask* sites have a serious misconception in their basis. What happens with expert newcomers?

nassthis is no thought exercise, this has happened to be more than once. Q: What happens to expert users in a field , that just join an Ask* site? A: They have very little chance of progressing in the point system of such sites. And indeed they are being banned from sharing their (expert) opinion. ...

 
1:43 PM
on askubuntu how do i find the questions i have bookmarked with the star on the question
 
go to favourites tab in your profile
 
thank you
 
@jokerdino a dinosaur appeared!!! D:
 
yep~
 
2:04 PM
Hmm... I wonder why this question was downvoted. It seems perfectly good to me.
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Q: Installing glib gives "You must have either have gettext support"

ajbI'm trying to install glib-2.37.6 (also same problem with glib-2.32.1) and getting this error during configuration: You must have either have gettext support in your C library, or use the GNU gettext library. (http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/gettext.html I previously built gettext, th...

 
Yes, that one puzzled me.
a 10krep-er flagged the self answer as non-answer too.
i upvoted the answer.
 
If it had a downvote and a spurious flag, maybe it was just a random-ish mistake.
 
yeah, that one happens from time to time.
 
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Q: Change chkconfig used by Centos 6.3 to print "on" in bright green (like Ubuntu's chkconfig)?

brakertechchkconfig on ubuntu will highlight services that are on in green when using list mode. http://i.stack.imgur.com/Jx1jW.png This does not occur on centos 6.3. I'd like that highlighting on the centos chkconfig. Does anyone know how to do that? Man entry on ubuntu describing green highlighting ...

 
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Q: reticulating splines

SubhadeepWhile installing Ubuntu12.4 desktop on VMWARE, the installation hungs st the stage when it is 'reticulating splines'. Tried twice, same issue. The round moving curser stopped. moving. Kind;y help.

We have a "reticulating splines" message during installation now?
 
2:18 PM
really now...
 
I think we have something we can dupe this to. It should explain how to remove the old Ubuntu system and install a new one (installing to the "entire disk" is only appropriate if no other OSes are installed that need to be retained). I know we have at least one technical question about what someone would do if they really wanted to try and cross-grade, but that's probably not what this OP needs.
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Q: 32 to 64 ... because I'm an idiot

ClayOK, I feel stupid. Full disclosure, brand new to Ubuntu. I have a five year old XP laptop that I assumed was a 32 bit OS and thus, I installed the 32 bit version of Ububntu 13.0.4. I now see under "about this computer" that it is, in fact, 64 bit. Can I install the 64 bit version over top of the ...

If not though, then maybe someone (maybe I) can post an expansion of the explanation in my comment as an answer to that question.
It's been VTC'd as a duplicate of that, but that doesn't cover the actual mechanics of how to properly remove the Ubuntu system and install it again (while preserving other OSes that might also be installed). I strongly suspect we have a question for that.
 
2:36 PM
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Q: Error while downloading HTTPS files using wget

Roshan shettyIf I try to download the some http files, Then wget works just fine(eg: wget download_link). But when i try to download https files using wget then I'm getting the following error http request sent 403 forbidden My problem is, I can't download http files in my college wifi. So when I try to d...

 
Also ....should this post be considered an answer, or is it NAA? Strictly speaking, it gives a brief, non-elaborated answer. But it seems like its intention is to be a "possible duplicate" comment.
 
^ he said he needs to recompile wget to get https support... but as far it gets wget is always compiled with this
@EliahKagan NaA
he cannot flag, nor comment...
 
I had bricked my Keon now I'm back with the latest nightly. The OS is shaping up nicely
 
wait, he can actually flag D:
 
Yeah, that only requires 15 rep.
 
2:56 PM
anyone know log it should take to clone a 180gb hd to a 360gb hd with " sudo dd if=/dev/(device) if=/dev/(device)" -by i know it varies depening device specs but, generally speaking rough range estimate
log = long
 
@John: I wouldn't use DD for this for just that reason
but around an hour I would guess
maybe 2
 
Oli
@John Allow for 30-100MB/s
 
@JourneymanGeek @Oli thank you
 
@John using @Oli estimated 1.7 hours the slowest
 
but dd is not a great tool for this job
 
3:00 PM
@Braiam thank you
 
since you're backing up empty space as well
better to use something thats designed to clone partitions intelligently
 
exactly ^
 
the harddrive only has a couple of gb empty anyway, but thank you for the info, what you you suggest next time
 
Clonezilla... for example...
 
@Braiam thank you
got one computer cloning and about to duel boot the one i am on
got three computers all together and am getting ready to sell the least powerful of the three later, i just want my 380 hd on my new one, not the 180 it has now, and i want to turn one that has a broken screen to a remote access system that i can use it to host the server apps i am coding, so they dont bog down system resources when i test changes
thank you all for the help, be well
 
 
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4:30 PM
BBT
Good Night
 
4:55 PM
can you use clonezilla to colon your system with out booting to a livedrive of it
 
You can't colon your system no matter what.
 
But you shouldn't try to it duel (boot) it either :-)
 
itss already duel booted, and yes i can, one way or another i will
 
what a troubling statements lateley :S
 
5:13 PM
O_o
Just a reminder: Please make sure you explain your suggested edits!
 
The only question that remains with that question is: where is Jorge?
 
hah
I am here!
 
@Braiam Yeah really XD
Oh hi @Jorge
 
speaking of the devil :S
 
@JorgeCastro so I missed the second half of the UDS session... How close are we too getting Discourse into production? It didn't seem like we were that close..
 
5:18 PM
The charm needs to get finished
it's ~5 issues
 
Oh I see..
What's the time frame then?
 
I'm shooting for 13.10
aka 2 months
 
@JorgeCastro Does the new incarnation of UEC whatever it's called migrate directly to rackspace? That's a sell point I think. Remembering a juju charm that installed something a lot like UEC whose naming convention changed.
 
@JorgeCastro Okay cool.
 
What do you mean migrate directly to rackspace?
 
5:24 PM
If I set up a local instance of whatever it's called now. Anything that provides a button to produce an image I can host on rackspace.
 
why this question ends in the LQP queue again? askubuntu.com/questions/336442/…
 
It's short.
 
yeah, but why twice (that I know of)?
 
Oh.. I dunno. it has a close vote if that means anything.
 
@hbdgaf Juju doesn't really do image based things, what happens is you deploy your charm locally and then you can deploy the charm to rackspace
(but we don't support rackspace right now, we're working on it though)
 
5:41 PM
@JorgeCastro appreciate the response. i sort of think if you support rackspace you support openstack in general, so it was just a question with a use case.
 
yeah, the problem with Rackspace currently is their cloud isn't quite doing what an OpenStack cloud is supposed to do
but they are working on fixing that
so like our openstack provider works on every openstack including HP Cloud except for rackspace, which kind of sucks
but yes, your usecase is totally valid, what you want to do is do something like ...
juju deploy blah locally, then hack. Then when you're ready to go you do something like juju export blah | juju import blah -erackspace and then we do the rest.
 
yes. something like that.
 
@mojo706 dude, i love me some non-free software. convenience is my boss.
 
thats the only reason I didn't switch to 12.10. or 13.04 for that matter
maybe I'll switch to 13.10 but thats only because of mir
 
5:47 PM
You think mir will be ready in October?
 
the spyware part is pretty lame. it's just that people don't understand the motivation. if you see my chat history, you see that i have no problem saying some tool sucks. i'm just saying if you want to do an ad driven app, how do you do it without giving that data out? it's not egregious. it's a fair sacrifice for getting ad driven app developers on their platform.
 
@Seth no not completely but somehow
@hbdgaf I saw SABDFL's explanation when the argument was still on. sometimes people are wrong
 
I didn't see the counterpoint. Care to drop a linke here?
 
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Q: what is the centos equivalent of /var/log/syslog (on ubuntu)?

brakertechOn ubuntu this file exists: /var/log/syslog However the same file does not appear on CentOS Distributions. What is the equivalent file on CentoS?

 
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