Oh well gtg for now, thanks for the help

@MickLH so what did she say?

about your game?

for crying out loud, i need feedback

no one gives me feedback

her exact words "quite good"

though I think the real review is that she played it for an extended period of time

coming from her sarcastic ass, i'll take that as a huge compliment

It is nice man, a little bit addictive

it is addictive for sure

it's definitely a nice game

addictive in the good way, purely because the game is rewarding to solve, no cheap tricks

^

I'm proud of it

it has been selling on android

should be (proud)

talk later!

not a lot, but i mean, everytime i get a sales i consider the fact that someone wants to play this game

and that means a lot

@Jon you want feedback?!

FEEDBACK?!

I played it, it's still installed.

do you want proper feedback?

I don't like the user interface

it annoys me

the buttons take up a wider amount of space than the grid - that should match for aesthetic reasons

the back button is stupid and small and by itself in the middle of nowhere

mechanically the game works and I enjoy it though

in portrait mode, anyway

:D

because landscape mode wastes a lot of screen space in which you could have a larger grid and move the back button

but

I will no doubt play it more as well

</feedback>

the back button was literally added, for iphone

the original UI didn't have a back button anywhere

It relied on the android back button

excuses

I wanted to align the versions to be the same-- but I should possibly revise the android version and remove the back button

No excuses. you are right.

on the level select screen the prev/next/back buttons are all different sizes

prev/next are same size are they not?

yes but that's not the point

if I removed the back button, would it still be a point?

well then the complaint would be you're wasting lots of screen space

the grid attempts to fit as best as it can

the rest of the menus... currently suck in landscape

i need to fix that...

Human mind changes the apparent size of things based on what they are next to, so I think "all different sizes" is perceptually appropriate :P

well if you have something in there making the grid as big as possible then removing the back button or moving it below the other buttons in landscape (which should also have tooltips because I literally didn't have a clue what they did)

also no I didn't play the tutorial so if it's in there then w/e

because who plays tutorials right?

RIGHT?

are you mick in female form?

you two should totally meet

what makes you say that?

I just think you two would have a lot to talk about

the ability to change UI color is nice

i'm taking notes

it absolutely makes the game more appealing to me

thanks

I wanted it to be friendly in that way

which is why it asks you what your favorite color is

also, maybe I don't understand the actual rules of the game

no I'm stupid

lol @Jon do you know that all my ex'es after high school I've met on chat... and that they all have had fun personalities like her?

yep.

this is true, there are multiple ways to finish... however, it beeps red when you solve incorrectly

You still need to sometimes use the image as a helper for the last 4 tiles

but if you finished, how can it be incorrect?

^

Logically it is correct.

But it is not the puzzle

and yeah

everyone has pointed that out, and apparently i should delete those puzzles

mick is working on a audit tool

I've entered heated discussion about this topic with him

i need a count of how many puzzles have multiple solutions

well with the fact it's not made clear what you've done wrong it damages the experience

i added that wrong beep

that doesn't mean anything

lol, it means you are wrong

@Jon sorry I got distracted making music :P I'll finish up that code soon

completing that level is basically like arguing with a pedant over semantics

lol are you a mick sock puppet?

i'm calling it

...

I got so lost in sound design, I forgot to write a song... unless you call D monotone a melody and call it a chord progression seperately

ok... so wouild you say I should remove those levels?

I've only found the one so far

I made the decision to keep some of those levels

the TV level in 10x10 for example

#5 i think

lol clearly yes @Jon, I definitely would create a sockpuppet account posing as a female and building rep for years so I can influence your game more easily

hahaha

you are crazy

only in a fairly manageable way

My reasoning was.. leave the ones that are do-able

to provide more puzzles... the fans wouldn't mind

i did delete a bunch of bad puzzles

like... at least 150 of them

And I made these puzzles.

Is there a way to fill in the larger grids quicker?

you really don't like to waste time

it's awkward

if you remove easy slide

I was wondering this too actually, whenever I had a situation where the edge told me exactly what squares were set, I wanted to just click the edge and have them all go

easy slide, locks the x/y slide direction

fine, I know you told me earlier and I ignored you

if you de-activate that option, it will allow you to draw anywhere

so much time wasted

I'm sorry

those options should be more accessible

ideally it would be a popup.. which is something i should be doing

yes, how about you add more buttons and then make them all the same size

that's a good idea

maybe even just get rid of some screens

so you don't have the "play game" screen at the start and just integrate it all into the difficulty selection screen

to remove that huge space at the bottom where an entire separate game could exist

you should be designing UIs or something

ditch that crappy it sec job

I don't work in IT sec

come live with me in my cardboard box

we will make games

where do you work?

I am a music producer

no shit

that sounds pretty awesome

it's a job

link?

has many of the same day to day annoyances as your usual dayjob and then some more on top

@Jon oh, yeah, no.

why not?

gimme a sample

there is no sample

fucking around on SE is escapism for me, I keep the two things very separate

i see

level 5 on the 10x10 grid is the same

how annoying

oh it's supposed to be a TV

on 10x10 the back button is stupidly small

yeah the back button placement sucks....

i need to rework it

the placement on 10x10 is fine

it's just... small

quite honestly, i shoved it in there quickly...

like tiny

well fine I'll stop banging on about your shoehorned back button

no

thank you

i need to fix it

in landscape mode why don't you split the options screen in half and have the color picker on the left and the other options on the right

also, if you stopped insisting on having pretty pictures as the result of each game you could procedurally generate levels

I was going to add a randomly generated level

I was thinking of adding it after you beat all the levels

in each difficulty

sure why not

seems like a good place for it

it is already coded

but if you did something like that you'd also need to add a statistics page

to show how many levels you've beaten and maybe an average time taken per level or something

with a "share to social media" button

would you share?

because that's standard functionality in games

no I wouldn't but then I never do in any game

i feel like that kind of stuff adds noise

who wants to see that kind of spam on their social media feed

certainly not any normal person

but it doesn't stop everybody else from doing it

i don't want to partake in that bullshit

but you need a statistics page because it gives people an additional reason to keep playing

everybody likes seeing a number increase as a result of their actions

ok, i will look into doing this

yeah, that is why i was thinking... add a Gold box at the end of each difficulty level select

once you beat all levels, an animation kicks in, opens the box -- unlimited generated levels

Then i could add a timer.. and a stats page

simple things, but interesting

well you've got an about page

@Almo It's called a Rampage, but also yeah

aside from time taken

maybe you could find a "flat" styled icon pack and convert those into levels

what other statistic could possibly be interesting?

total games

5x5 games

10x10 games

@kalina levels are seriously difficult to produce

15x15 games

plus average time per size

thats like 7 statistics

you can't really have win/loss ratio because you don't lose

@Jon I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not

no i'm serious

every level in my game was tested 10x

it was literally a 1 month testing phase.. non stop revisions

how long did you spend designing/coding though?

in all.. way longer than you would think

i lost track

I would expect about as much testing time as coding time tbh

anything less and you get windows vista

bringing a game to the point of selling it, take a lot longer than you would think

when you do it all by yourself