Game Development

@Tyyppi_77 thanks for clearing that up, So I'll still need to provide a texture 2d.

hmm lemme edit it into one

for the one star

First world problems when it comes to getting a star. Having to edit your post into one so people know what the fuck you're actually talking about.

hahaha

I think tonight my goal it to make a functional class which makes meshes and also apply textures to the generated uv's

11:30 AM

sounds intense

Hopefully it'll increase the frame rate excessively, I mean 60k+ game objects just isn't right for a mobile game.

part of the trick too, if you can code it, is to only have as many objects as you need to have on the screen, and then just move them to their coordinates as the camera changes

I've been looking around for a similar solution, but I cant seem to find one

rather than having thousands of off-screen objects just sitting there, not being rendered sure, but still one object for every object required

make it

11:33 AM

Well If I generate the chunks as Meshes with the tiles textures on it it'd reduce from 62,500 Game Objects to 25.

think about changing levels of details as you zoom out

its all just an illlllluuusion

Well currently the camera only see's about 2-3 chunks on the screen

and if I render a range of 5 I can just increase the cameras view

ok, so you have a mesh.. how are you going to texture it for object types, and biomes and stuff?

its gonna get retarded

Well the chunks will only be terrain

Then I'll put houses ontop which arnt meshes

which will have about ehhh, 200 tiles maybe

maybe more

I could even go for the same process for houses and place the mesh over it

alright well make sure to post screenshots

11:37 AM

why are you interested ;)

i want to see what it is going to look like

visually appealing or the concept?

mainly just want to laugh at you

i just wanna see it dude

Wait seriously?

Have I fucked up? My idea won't work?

lol, you are the one who is going to make it work

with programming, anything is possible

11:40 AM

2 mins ago, by Jon

mainly just want to laugh at you

What did you mean by that?

well then

oooo

metacritic.com/game/pc/tallowmere

Are reviews bound to be out?

not yet
I hope next week I will reach out to press

ever since my steam page went live

it's like, suddenly i have a gamefaqs.com page created for me, sites are picking up my screenshots and the store listing, people are searching for keys, trading card sites are taking note

the amount of buzz from the internet is kind of crazy

11:49 AM

You must feel awesome :p

it's kind of crazy.

Do you enjoy it or not?

I know I would

Makes me happy when people enjoy what I,ve done

It's cool. maybe a little scary :D

Feels like I've actually accomplished something

Well that's what I think it'll feel like.

voices over the past year have been pretty positive eh, but happiness comes and goes

11:51 AM

Scary, why?

I get my slumps

everyone does

like me with my driving.

scary cuz it's all new and somewhat unknown for me haha

only got my learners a little bit back, been out for 2 hours, month later oh lets go for a drive.

Gets yelled at because i made a mistake.

:P

11:52 AM

Hopefully you'll get use to it, It's one of the perks when distributing things to the public :p

indeed. Past year I've been reading a lot, including thoughts from other devs, in a way need to build a thick skin, to not get discouraged nor overwhelmed

cuz I do know popularity can hit people in the wrong way

imagine Notch

and the millions and millions of people playing

giving feedback

Yes, that is one skill you'll have to master

talking, sharing stories, it's like, faaarrr out lol

People pick other people apart for practically no reason.

trick I think is to not take it all too personally either

11:56 AM

But then again it really is personal

some will love, some will hate, ones and zeroes really, this or that. so prepare for any possible type of feedback and put each into its own basket

I mean it's not a team job you've made it yourself

Hey I'm happy if people even play my games haha

Definitely

I guess I can't say much though.

I haven't had any success

gamedev is interesting too cuz it's a bit more than just a painting, or a movie, or a piece of music. it's interactive

11:57 AM

probably because i haven't completed a single game.

keep chipping away at ideas

even take a giant break if you need to

prior to tallowmere, I didn't touch a piece of code for 3 months

forced myself to just do other things

Then I forget everything an loose interest ;p

well that's the thing, if you lose interest then you haven't really lost anything, you know?

I really want to stick to my current idea though because i feel I'd personally enjoy it

if anything you gained knowledge and experience about what you didn't find satisfactory about what you were trying to do in the first place

11:59 AM

I've got to admit that's a pretty good point

my umpteen folders of unfinished prototypes and small ideas... lol

sketch pads, really

hehe.

I find it interesting looking back at previous Ideas and work

yeah

I have this one game idea laying around like a 2d goat simulator but you're a giraffe on a rampage collecting potatoes

lol

12:01 PM

I could never draw the assets nor understand the concept of programming back then

I mean hey I'm still pretty incapable.

comes with time and practice

indeed

I also find gamedev really hard at times, because it's not like making a website or a GUI-based application dealing with real-world data for a practical purpose

I've got to admit when I first introduced myself with programming I thought I was going to make every program I used by myself

no, it's all about entertainment and fake numbers and artwork and things for fantasy

12:02 PM

from web browsers to paint to media player.

lol.

haha

i don't know what i was thinking back their

dreams are good

probably the time was endless and programming was like a walk in the park

gives ya something to strive for, til you pull yourself back down a little lol

12:04 PM

Trust me i don't want to strive for that :p

:P

I want to strive to actually make a dent in the public. Make something they enjoy.

also focus on what you'd enjoy

Something that'd make yourself proud saying hey i made this, and whoa all these people like it.

Yes my other aspect of that dream was to also do what i enjoy

if you enjoy something you've made, someone out there will enjoy it also

12:05 PM

Which I've came to the conclusion is game development

It's all just a matter of finding them

Alright, must be time to learn how to programmatically create meshes with multiple textures at runtime.

Sounds like a helluva task i've gotta admit

but i'll be happy to move on to another problem once this one is solved

I literally made my prototype good enough within 3 months, playable with menus and startgame->endgame->repeat functionality... and I was not aware of any indie-friendly shops to host my game on, so i made my own website and used a payment gateway. and I can't remember how I started selling copies, I think IndieDB was my first good sense of marketing?

and people bought copies, and I was ecstatic lol

aye good luck, it sounds like a large task

Hahaha, I fell i'll be the same one day ;p

I'll be back later to post progress for sure

:)

how to get to other side

can you be in the center of the 2 tile flat point?

12:17 PM

@Jon is that a trick question lol

that looks awesome though

center of 2 tile flat point?

Wait no I know how to do it

well i show you in the gif

lol

oh really?

oh i know another method :3

shorter aswell I think

got some draw ordering bugs

probably just not refreshing at the right times

gonna fix it all up -- have a demo for you guys by this weekend hopefully :D

12:20 PM

Can't wait :D

user92578

I haven't gotten anything gamedev related done in like months

Where's your drive man?

user92578

no idea

heck, you were on track in releasing a pretty wicked game I wanted to play

then next thing you know, you fell off the radar

Aw ew. Have to add the tileset to the gameobject

so the uv's have the right coords

user92578

12:26 PM

yeah gunhero got finished as a prototype

prototyping is all the fun -- you just didn't want to do actual work :P

user92578

maybe i should make that game, but just much better

yes maybe you should :D

I was hoping to have the rotator pieces just work based on the position you wanted it to be in

But then I quickly realized that you need to be able to tell the game which block to push, otherwise you can't do the puzzles properly

@Tyyppi_77 how do mesh renderers get reference to the right texture with UV's?

user92578

uvs dont care what texture they belong

user92578

12:33 PM

in OpenGL you activate the correct texture before rendering

It's based off of 1 texture isn't it?

user92578

better system probably have some material stuff

That means i can't use the sprite mode multiple in unity to automatically split them up can 1. Darn i'll need to manually damn

12:48 PM

:)

user92578

the thing is that gunhero is essentially a bad broforce rip-off

broforce is awesome :p

user92578

yeah

user92578

i think i need to figure out an "unique" mechanic for gunhero

user92578

so either zombies or crafting :D

12:52 PM

Lets emphasise "unique" a little more :3

instead of fighting enemies. Why can't the playable characters be a neighbour hood team who are delusional and think they're saving the world fighting bad guys when really they are causing havoc to the city blowing things up killing innocent citizens

How could I possibly convert an int to a vector2D.

I'll need to make my own method obviously

user92578

that's not a thing

user92578

converting an int to a vector2

but how could I do it, I originally though diving the int by the x length then pulling the returned value apart say 12 / 10 is 1.2 so 1 is your y and 2 is your x

stupid idea though.

probably not even needed

I'll just figure their values out in a Vector2

user92578

so the first digit of the int becomes the x and the second the y?

Yes

That was my original idea

but it just complicates things

user92578

12:59 PM

yeah dont do that

I know I could turn int into a string and pull it apart

but fuck it, why bother time is precious and ideas like that are stupid.

user92578

that makes no sense

user92578

why use an int?

It's just I though I could make it easier for myself following how the tiles is split in unity :p

because I need to first divide the number by the length

Because the way they split the tileset in unity

it goes from left to right then when it reaches image length next row down

So I though if I provided the int I could split the number so I didn't have to count how many x's and y's the image is in

as unity already split it into 0 ~ 100 for example

user92578

tilesets usually work with int indices

1:03 PM

Just a silly thought, don't worry about it

no

shit

I may actually have to do that

wait no/

I'm just going to shut up.

I forget changing code is possible...

user92578

okay... now i need the really cool unique mechanic for the game

Well I gave you the cool idea :p

quirky and fun

Sure you could base mechanics around that ;)

or maybe you could hire mechanics

user92578

@Mutch95 seems a bit complicated :D

But it could be worth wile :D

as humorous games seem to be getting a lot of attention

I'm sure you could use your sense of humour and imagination to make something unbelievably fun

1:10 PM

Little Johnny

Wait, why don't sprites need to have a light to be lit up?

user92578

hmm, maybe a round-based shooter where there are a few different paths where the enemies come

user92578

and you defend a spot

user92578

like those zombie-round game thingys

user92578

but with the broforce-like gameplay and graphics

user92578

1:12 PM

and they're just enemy soldiers, not zombies

Balloons tower defence with multiple entry points to your base?

user92578

but side-viewed gameplay

user92578

and it's just you (and maybe your pal) shooting the enemies

Which you continually upgrade

user92578

so no auto-shooters, you manually shoot stuff

user92578

1:14 PM

but some turrets might be nice

Could be a potential IOS game

user92578

and barriers and stuff

you should be able to shoot alligators

yeah a base you progressively upgrade

and the alligators should all be procedurally generated

1:14 PM

@jon I know what game you're referring to.

Or maybe I think I do and you're being completely serious

You are the pilot of a helicopter. You need to kill people, then suck out their blood with your helicopter attachment. The blood is used to put out building fires, in order to save other people. The fires spread after a short time so you need to act quickly. Once you put out all the fires you advance to the next level.

user92578

so am I making gunhero again? or some alligator stuff?

VR Porn. You'll be a millionaire in no time.

except your target audience will be quite queer

i can just imagine the emails

That base defence zombie game sounds fun

especially with local multiplayer

If it had enough content sure me and my gf would play it together

user92578

1:19 PM

okay, so gunhero remake it is

user92578

i wonder if i should make it for real this time

user92578

do a GDD and all that jazz

i don't do gdd

but I do small sketches and take notes and stuff

i'll break it down when I need to

user92578

gdd could help me get stuff done

GDD?

user92578

1:21 PM

instead of "what to do next", i'd just get to the next point

user92578

Game design document

Like you right out everything needed before working on it?

user92578

yeah

scribd.com/doc/53563149/Grand-Theft-Auto-Design-Document

I write a general design idea

then extended on it when I come up with good idea I think are worthwile

1:23 PM

if you scope it out like that you can really tell how long it is going to take you too

user92578

someone needs to create a dark theme for ms word

user92578

my eyes are burning

use libreoffice

their is isn't their ?

user92578

libreoffice doesn't have cool dark themes

user92578

1:24 PM

I just want a metro-dark-theme

user92578

like in VS

haha

your documents would all be white on black though, lol

user92578

yeah, the paper can be white

1:26 PM

you know what would be cool for a VR game

IF it could detect when your eyes are closed

have enemies that only move when you close your eyes

user92578

like they call this "dark grey"

user92578

dark my ***

you know you can swear right.

who's going to be offended?

a 6 year old?

user92578

i just hadn't used any *s for a while

user92578

1:28 PM

also adds a bit of mystery to the thing

user92578

@Jon where did you find this?

define this

user92578

the image

Tyyppi: What other swear word with 3 characters there than ass :p?

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user92578

1:29 PM

ah

user92578

well there's always fck

their is for mac ;)

user92578

and cnt

but that's not fair

user92578

dck

1:30 PM

because it's not spelt correctly

haha

user92578

:O

could be Bae

user92578

bold is double *

ahit you realised haha

user92578

asd

1:31 PM

thanks

user92578

oh you can bold and cursive

user92578

didn't know dat

Lokkij

oh my

Italics you mean?

user92578

yeah

1:34 PM

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And you officially fucked up the GameDevelopment chat.

Great job @Jon you deserve a star.

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how do you make them cover the whole page lol

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