Game Development

SpartanDonut

12:56 AM

ermagerd finally home for the weekend

Chris

1:12 AM

\o/

Mutch95

I'm fucking sick of these ads...

Turns out the link didn't copy...

Anyway all the vote for 1 ads and clive palmer ads.

They're on almost every youtube video

SpartanDonut

1:28 AM

@Chris I want to go buy beer... but that means I have to get up

Should have picked some up on my way home :(

Chris

welp

can you solve your issue with programming?

private Wife wife;
wife.QuenchHusbandsThirst();

SpartanDonut

Not before 9pm when they stop selling alcolhol. Parts for a robot wouldn't arrive until tomorrow with super expensive shipping and laws that would allow a robot to buy alcohol on my behalf probably will never be passed.

Chris

would a robot be under-age?

unless it had a valid "made on" sticker?

Lasse

you need to invent teleportation device then, should be easy task since there's a library for everything nowdays

just ask these guys, they should have a library for you to use: dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2643332/…

Chris

:P

SpartanDonut

1:35 AM

My wife just asked me to look at the website her place of work has to ask me how hard it would be to update their site since her boss was considering having her learn how. I determined the site was done in PHP but was made in Photoshop so it would just be a matter of updating HTML. Also it seems to have 4 pairs of <html> tags and the only doctype I saw was commented out. I told her to avoid any responsibility of that site as if her life depends on it.

Chris

I dunno if it'll happen in our lifetime eh, but

@SpartanDonut loooooool

Lasse

lol

SpartanDonut

I have to assume adding a doctype broke the site

Chris

when you're just too good for an html tag

Lasse

no, it was broken, adding the doctype just fixed it and showed it in it's true form

Chris

1:37 AM

heheh

my doctype is commented out

Seth Battin

doctype is a relic

from when people wanted html to be xml

required for "legacy reasons" is required for stupid reasons

Chris

I remember that push

I'm probably pretty out of the loop these days though

Lasse

<!DOCTYPE html> should be enough for everyone

Seth Battin

indeed

SpartanDonut

@SethBattin I don't disagree but I'm very happy with what Lasse just said

The stupid long doctypes were just out of control

Chris

1:39 AM

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

SpartanDonut

I'm sure one day we'll be rid of it but for the time being it's kind of a necessary evil

Seth Battin

/vomit

Icy Defiance

might be rid of doctype entirely with Spartan

SpartanDonut

That would be nice

So apparently my local grocery store is retarded at closes at 8pm

Chris

I don't do this with proper html pages but, with my old Chrome extension that was reallyh large, I'd just make my own tags and use css to say what display: to use it as

Lasse

1:41 AM

wanna see something really horrible? well close your eyes if you don't: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">

I still have the nightmares

SpartanDonut

Oh this is interesting

Chris

W3 checker validation and everything

SpartanDonut

The twitter icon goes to twitter.html which redirects to the actual twitter page

Chris

@SpartanDonut eh what?

Lasse

someone should make a gif from that PTS dog meme gif that shows flashbacks of html framesets

SpartanDonut

1:44 AM

@Chris I got nothing. I'd say maybe they wanted to capture some data but The facebook icon links directly to facebook.

Lasse

lol the gif is too much to onebox rs1img.memecdn.com/…

SpartanDonut

Especially considering Twitter.html is one of the only pages without a .php extension

Chris

@Lasse thank you lol, my eyeesss

SpartanDonut

Best part is my wife ditched me like 15 minutes ago. I'm just enjoying making fun of this site

Chris

ohhh right heh

SpartanDonut

1:47 AM

So... I think I have to drive 30 minutes for decent beer. I either need to get super motivated, settle for shit beer, or go without. Life is full of difficult decisions.

Seth Battin

@Chris Making your own tags is (almost) totally legit these days. jonrimmer.github.io/are-we-componentized-yet

Chris

cool

@SpartanDonut driving for that sounds like a lot of effort, just for beer, but then I'm not much of a beer guy

SpartanDonut

I'm also out of good hard liquor

Seth Battin

a firefox engineer pointed me at that website. but he was all sad because "google already promised it would offer complete support in two builds". lo and behold, it has come to pass

SpartanDonut

Though I could pay a fortune in a town only 7 minutes away as opposed to a reasonable price 30 minutes away.

@SethBattin where is a samples page? I want to know how to use this

Oh this site maybe - customelements.io

Seth Battin

1:52 AM

yeah, i was just going to copy the links from that site

shadow dom is a totally crazy idea

seems open for rife abuse, but also allows awesomeness

SpartanDonut

If this is the future then sign me up.

It just makes so much sense - googlewebcomponents.github.io/google-chart/components/…

And a syntax highlight tag! oh joy of joys

Seth Battin

:)

the firefox guy's talk was titled "make your own blink tag"

Chris

@SpartanDonut that sounds excellent

hah

Seth Battin

he also had pause/reverse/speedchange gif player

but i know that one has since broken

Mutch95

1/10 is 0.1 correct, So why would it be setting the value to 0 if it's of type float.

Seth Battin

1:59 AM

because 1 is an int

SpartanDonut

This is bringing back the joy of the 90s. It's just like when you used to search sites for all the cool javascripts to add to your horribly awful website!

Now I just gotta go look for some cool web components

Mutch95

So what? @SethBattin

Seth Battin

so if you start with an int and divide it by an int, you get an int

doesn't matter what type you assign it to

Icy Defiance

1 / 10 == floor(1.0 / 10.0) == floor(1.0 / 10) == floor(1 / 10.0)

Seth Battin

of course, what language is in use matters a great deal

Mutch95

2:01 AM

(float)1/tilesetWidth

that works then?

Icy Defiance

it should, or just 1.0f/tilesetWidth

SpartanDonut

float theAnswer = (float)(int)((int)1/(int)10) // this is basically what's happening... which means theAnswer is 0

Seth Battin

maybe? i'm fuzzy on cast associativeness

Mutch95

alright thankls

Seth Battin

the vomit line got a star, but the link to the cool html stuff didn't? weird.

Chris

2:03 AM

(1 * 1f) / 10

SpartanDonut

@SethBattin some people like vomit. Most definitely weird.

Icy Defiance

Math.Pow(1, 1) / 10

I guess that would be a double... whatever, still should work

SpartanDonut

Math.RealDivision(1,10);

I do have some nasty skunky beer in the basement... Could always drink that and /vomit after the second one because it's so bad

Something tells me that won't have the desired effect though

Chris

you're making me want a drink now

Seth Battin

me too

Mutch95

2:08 AM

Wooo!

Loads chunks a meshes!

SpartanDonut

@Chris I've had a long 3 days lol. Time to kick back and relax.

Mutch95

Finally fucking did it.

Seth Battin

@Mutch95 nice, it's amazing what difference a float makes

Chris

@SpartanDonut if they've been really long then perhaps a drive would be wise

Mutch95

I know right

Seth Battin

2:10 AM

is there more stuff about your project anywhere?

Mutch95

Now to fix my chunk loading when the camera moves as the framerate drops again

who me?

Seth Battin

yah

SpartanDonut

@Chris Most of the stress comes from the 20 minutes it takes to drive away from downtown. I'm far to used to just hopping on and off the highway. After the 20 minutes though It't about another hour and ten to get home. Needless to say I'm sick of driving :P

OH

Chris

damn

SpartanDonut

Maybe you meant getting myself a drink would be wise! Yes...........

Or at least I can dream that's what you meant

Chris

2:11 AM

That works too

consume, be merry

Mutch95

@SethBattin: Haha no, I've only been working on it for about a week. It's a project I do want to stick to though

@Wardy Finally did it :D look up, frame rate stays at 60, until loading chunks that's the next think I need to work on

SpartanDonut

Alright. I'll be back later. If not I've been abducted by my wife and we're re-watching Game of Thrones before season 4 is out on DVD.

Chris

:)

AttackingHobo

2:37 AM

@Chris is the update live on steam?

Chris

not yet, few mins hopefully, getting distracted by another html page to update
plus kid just woke up and wants food lol

olay live now

AttackingHobo

@Chris do you see anything wrong with that?

Chris

Looks okay?

AttackingHobo

I'll give you a hint. I have two screens.

Chris

Resize the window?

I tried dual-screen last night and it doesn't seem to support full screen for both

but I could drag to resize the window as desired

AttackingHobo

2:45 AM

it auto launches in the center of the both monitors. you should launch it in the center of my monitor that I choose in the launcher

Chris

I have no control over how it launches sorry

AttackingHobo

you do though....

I just launched a unity thing i exported and it started on my main monitor windowed

yours is split across two monitors

@Chris I've never seen a game do that when playing windowed

MLM

@AttackingHobo It is your problem. Windows open where they were last closed. It is possible that location got messed up when Windows tried to save it.

AttackingHobo

@MLM nope. it recenters it self each time.

yup. exited from the games menu and it recentered itself again on both my monitors

so its split

@Chris imo sheild should protect you from spikes in the direction of the sheild

MLM

3:01 AM

It works fine for me. I just tested and even works with the vertical oriented dual monitors. The only problem was that when I had screen 2 above 1, and launched Tallowmere as "Display 1 (left)", it did launch in screen 2.

AttackingHobo

@MLM take a screen shot with one above another

@Chris you should also trap the mouse. With the mouse invisible its very easy to go outside the window accidentally and make the game lose focus.

MLM

@AttackingHobo . i.imgur.com/OCxlm0F.jpg

AttackingHobo

thats not windowed mode.

MLM

*note: When 1 above 2 vertically, the tallowmere settings lined up

@AttackingHobo Launches in the center of the desired screen when windowed

Chris

@AttackingHobo hmm. I am looking at this right now to analyse. The shield sprite goes in front of the sprites. Shield does not block or restrict movement. Shield sprite goes behind enemy sprites (just for comparison atm). I'm running through my head how the layer ordering might affect other things, because your shield going on top of the spikes looks like you're going to get hit, but moving the spikes overlapping the shield might look dumb, considering how much of the shield would be out of view

@AttackingHobo lemme investigate

AttackingHobo

3:09 AM

sheild over spikes would work. like its covering it and protecting the player

@MLM idk why its doing it for me. maybe cause I have different sizes screens. or because I have a laptop with nvidia and intel video cards?

Chris

MLM

@AttackingHobo I have different res and size screens and I am on a laptop

AMD A8 apu

AttackingHobo

different res screens

@Chris make him get pushed away from the spikes I think

Chris

that would be a lot of extra collider work to involve, if you're squished in with an enemy and you raise your shield, who's gonna go where?

not keen

AttackingHobo

dont allow raising sheild if already squished

but if I run into a spike with my shield out I expect to not take damage

Mutch95

3:14 AM

@Chris you teleport with katana?

Chris

@Mutch95 yep

Mutch95

hahaha feel like a ninja so much!

Havent sacrificed any kittens this round so proud

Must admit coins on spikes are anoying

@Chris maybe you could implement a crouch and when you crouch on spikes you don't get hurt

but when crouching you cant attack

Chris

spikes on floor only happens in the one room

Mutch95

full of thos machine things that fly

Chris

yea

AttackingHobo

3:21 AM

@Chris tallowmere opens split on both monitors no matter what monitor I choose.

Chris

answers.unity3d.com/questions/820952/…

Mutch95

Katana is so OP no joke haha!

Chris

answers.unity3d.com/questions/13523/…

MLM

@Mutch95 Good luck

Mutch95

With?

Chris

3:24 AM

@MLM don't spoil it!

Mutch95

huuh D:

Punishments?

AttackingHobo

@Chris cool. please implement that. :)

Chris

@Mutch95 keep using the katana, you'll see ;)

Mutch95

dAhhh D:

Chris

@AttackingHobo yeah the DLL thing looks like a possibility, lemme try it out

AttackingHobo

3:26 AM

@Chris I will pester you with all the glitches I find. Cause I don't want your game to be good, I want your game to be fucking awesome.

Chris

Pestering is good, do mind that I might not budge on everything though

Mutch95

I' currently saving tallowmere

bahahaa

the cat ate the key xD

AttackingHobo

@Chris you will find that things that I ask are very reasonable

Mutch95

I just killed my biggies D:

Chris

RIP

Mutch95

3:31 AM

Nothing has happened from using the katana

?

Chris

keep going

Mutch95

Does my mouse break from repetitive use or something?

Chris

lol

Mutch95

I just defeated jazz in 10 seconds with a katana

AttackingHobo

►

Mutch95

3:40 AM

I'm at room 20 and nothings happened

What's meant to happen chris?

Chris

@Mutch95 what do you mean by nothing's happened?

Mutch95

You say using the katana does something?

Chris

lol

you'll know when it happens

Mutch95

I'M EXCITED

how long does it take

Almo

an onrunning commentary on what happens in the game make it less interesting for those of us who haven't gotten that far yet

Mutch95

3:46 AM

Sorry I'll shut up

Chris

@AttackingHobo window mouselock feels good, thank you

Icy Defiance

4:12 AM

Comcast Is Changing Customers' Names To "Whore" And "Dummy" consumerist.com/2015/01/30/…

lol

one of those titles where you first have to check whether it's the onion or not

Chris

4:44 AM

@SpartanDonut how's the beer?

Chris

5:20 AM

@AttackingHobo Your window-in-the-middle thing must be a random Unity bug :( Testing using the launcher, it honours my screen choice correctly. Tried up and down screens, left and right swapping, no difference, works for me, never appears in the middle

Are you able to select your monitor?

MLM

5:35 AM

@Chris The only issue I had was the options were backwards when I had my secondary screen above primary.

Chris

yeah, and still says Left or Right regardless

just how it is

MLM

Left, Right was fine, it is just that the Display X doesn't match. Overall that is fine as well.

Chris

ahhh yep yep

Aidan Mueller

5:56 AM

Got this stuck in my head:

►

Mutch95

7:11 AM

ohhh hail storm

Icy Defiance

no, Halestorm. youtube.com/watch?v=YpJAmlnBxoA

user92578

1:43 PM

So I'd like to implement a "weapon" system similar to the one in Spelunky

user92578

The items can be picked up, but when they are dropped, they interact with the environment

user92578

So I can't decide if I should make the weapon an entity, add that to the level, and when the player picks it up, let the player set it's position based on the player location

user92578

or if I should create some different "item" class for that, and then add some custom stuff to the level for the items

user92578

the first one would introduce coupling, but I don't really see how I could avoid it

user92578

and by interacting with the environment i mean that they can be dropped -> gravity applies to them

Jon

2:32 PM

cool

i had to redesign my rotator block completely

was shitty on touch

i got a pretty good plan B right now... i sat there and thought about it for a good hour

Pip

morning GDSE

@Jon did it work out?

Lokkij

Morning Pip

jrsala

hello gents

not saying morning because it's 3pm here at UTC+1

Pip

lol

It's 9:45 here

Lokkij

@jrsala It's morning in UGT :P

jrsala

2:44 PM

20th century technologies make intercontinental salutations awkward like that.

Lokkij

Jeez, links are really hard to detect without that userstyle.

Especially in your own messages.

jrsala

@Lokkij Thank god for UGT then :D

Lokkij

:D

Siddharth

any friend from unity engine??

I have question regarding unity

answers.unity3d.com/questions/890252/…

Above question represent my problem clearly

Almo

@Siddharth I think your problem is that you're using SetPosition, and not letting the physics system do the movement by using a velocity

Siddharth

2:52 PM

velocity not work for me

if you want then I can send you apk

Lokkij

From the docs on MovePosition:

> It is recommended that you use this for relatively small distance movements only.

Have you made sure that's the case?

Siddharth

I move my track slightly only

and car move only left and right

user92578

why wont velocity work?

Lokkij

I wish the adobe debug launcher wouldn't completely freeze whenever an exception occurs.

Jon

@Pip seems to be working out up to now

Just a slight change in plans really

Pip

3:02 PM

cool

Jon

its actually way better in terms of usability now

Siddharth

I also check with velocity code

answers.unity3d.com/questions/890252/…

Now I have modified my code

you see in edit sectio n

Lokkij

What's the problem with the velocity code? The object doesn't move?

Jon

what is -1 * 1

@Siddharth

Siddharth

track moves correctly

Jon

3:05 PM

also, what is -1 * -1

Lokkij

Oh haha right

Siddharth

U have written -1 because I want to move downside

sorry I have

Lokkij

Why not use Vector.down then?

Jon

just leave the jitter in, and make the road dirt

Siddharth

okay I can use that but it didn't causing any problem here

Lokkij

3:10 PM

Ooh, new multiplayer features coming in Unity 5. Awesome.

Pip

cool

Siddharth

any idea about my problem?

user92578

why can't you use velocity?

Siddharth

if you see my updated code then you can see , I tried with velocity also

answers.unity3d.com/questions/890252/…

user92578

still jittery?

Siddharth

3:17 PM

yes

if you want then I can send you apk

user92578

nah

user92578

how about doing that in a method that you can apply delta time from

Siddharth

I can't able to understand your thought

Jon

new mechanic roughed in

works way better on my phone now

user92578

looks good @Jon

Pip

3:21 PM

coolcool

user92578

3:38 PM

Crawling!

user92578

with a horrible, horrible crawling sprite animation

user92578

(not shown)

Pip

nice

what framework is that?

user92578

Mine

user92578

3:41 PM

built ontop of SDL2

user92578

i need a name for the framework

user92578

something cool

Pip

3:58 PM

noice

toby

4:48 PM

Hello! Is there a way to find the parametric-ray to triangle intersection just with basic arithmetic without division? I can so find wether an intersection occurs or not by scalar triple product, but I also need the parameter t on the ray corresponding to the intersection.

jrsala

Well yeah one you have the ray-triangle intersection cofnirmed

compute the intersection point (or line in very few cases) with equations:

ax + by + c*z + d = 0

is the equation of the plane in which the triangle is located

that is to say (a b c).p + d = 0

where p = (x y z) and the "." is dot product

and you know that point p is also on the ray

so you have another two equations

all three equations give you a matrix to find an inverse of

or rather, well, just a system of 3 linear equations to solve

Oh shit, I'm mistaken, we're not trying to find just the point of intersection