Game Development

PsychO PhobiA

8:00 PM

@Noctrine Yeah but everyone telling me to shut is making me worse

These gamers is this chat talk too much trash

MickLH

@PsychOPhobiA go with the flow, bro

Pip

You can talk, just don't constantly oppose everything and everyone

as Mick has just said, go with the flow. If you have a different opinion, don't just say it.

Noctrine

Aside from certain incidents, it's pretty tame in here.

MickLH

Or go ahead and constantly oppose everything, and everything will go ahead and continue how they do too

Pip

yep

Noctrine

8:01 PM

You kind of insulted a game that a number of people like :\

Pip

Yes, he did, didn't he.....

MickLH

lol well it's dota though

I mean, come on

Pip

true, LoL all the way

AttackingHobo

@PsychOPhobiA think about what you are saying, and if you don't understand what other people are saying look up the words you don't know, also don't insult a game with no reasoning or bias behind it

PsychO PhobiA

Well Battle is the most talked shooter out and DOTA I never even heard of?

MickLH

8:02 PM

@PsychOPhobiA wrong thinking

Pip

DOTA is not a shooter :/

MickLH

Counter-Strike. Correct thinking.

Pip

exactly

PsychO PhobiA

@AttackingHobo I just stated my reasoning when i said battle field 4 is awesome

Noctrine

You only just found out small segments of the truth of Cristopher Columbus

There is an entire world out there made up of things you haven't heard of

Joe

8:02 PM

but that statement was much better than the previous... progress

AttackingHobo

errr something can't suck because you like something else more....

MickLH

hehe brb lol seriously try Counter-Strike though it's the shit

Almo

Counter-Fuck

Q3 Threewave CaptureStrike is way better

Pip

I think I should post this obligatory commentary.

Icy Defiance

@AttackingHobo can't say I care about speed in that kind of tool. it's all about the presentation. that said, having no install is a good thing, so that's an advantage.

PsychO PhobiA

8:06 PM

Well does anyone want to make a game with me?

AttackingHobo

@IcyDefiance The UI is nearly the same, if not better with spacesniffer

Icy Defiance

colors are uglier :P but spacesniffer shows file/folder names without hovering over a rectangle...

AttackingHobo

@IcyDefiance you care when you run it on a huge drive.

Space sniffer is also usable while its scanning

PsychO PhobiA

Anyone?

Joe

@PsychOPhobiA how many games have you worked on?

AttackingHobo

8:08 PM

@PsychOPhobiA not really

Icy Defiance

@AttackingHobo that could be. I've only run it on 700-some GB

PsychO PhobiA

I need someone on my side

Instead of a team tag...

Almo

@PsychOPhobiA I have enough game projects already

Noctrine

Not currently taking interns :\

Icy Defiance

I'd rage too much

Almo

8:08 PM

one half-finished, another prototype, and several other concepts

plus the boardgames and music to finish composing

PsychO PhobiA

You guys trying to avoid me but you don't know that I can learn great things by doing something with very experienced people like you guys.

Almo

I can great things too.

Alex M.

I can of soda.

OS X has some interesting UX going for it

PsychO PhobiA

@Joe One game only

Almo

yeah there are some nice bits in it

Alex M.

8:10 PM

today it asked me if I want to retry updating "tonight"

what the hell is tonight

Pip

@AlexM. lol

Almo

hahaha :)

Alex M.

is it like a well defined time?

PsychO PhobiA

Still trying to learn how to enhance graphis through my computer.

Alex M.

is 23:00 tonight?

Noctrine

8:10 PM

@PsychOPhobiA And when you start showing signs that you are taking steps within even the confines of this chatroom. People will start taking you more seriously.

Alex M.

is 0:00 tonight?

Joe

000 = tommorow morning

Almo

graphis man. that's where it's at.

Noctrine

@AlexM. Sometime between 2AM and 5AM

Alex M.

so it's random?

PsychO PhobiA

8:11 PM

@Noctrine But I tried and no one took me serious... just took me as a giant joke

Alex M.

and why did it suppose I'd be awake at that time

I like the settings screen

it's very concise and clear

unlike windows with its settings spread across itself

(yes I know most of them link to the control panel)

Joe

@PsychOPhobiA i think nocturne is probably right, you should participate try and be constructive get involved some of the upcoming game jams

Alex M.

(but at least with OS X it seems they're all in one place which is better)

AttackingHobo

@PsychOPhobiA huh? What did you try?

Almo

@PsychOPhobiA yeah build a game for the next GDSE game jam.

PsychO PhobiA

8:12 PM

I tried to calm my self down but know one was willing to teach me

Alex M.

make a cake for the jam

I'll make a cake

it's an anniversary jam

Noctrine

I've been watching. (Camera head and all)

Almo

just completeing a project, no matter how "bad" it may look will go a long way to helping you

AttackingHobo

@PsychOPhobiA teach yourself.

Almo

@PsychOPhobiA we're not here to teach people how to make games

PsychO PhobiA

8:13 PM

I know how to use blender, python, gimp but not C#

Noctrine

What I've seen is people suggest things, and then you do nothing.

Almo

we like to help people with specific problems

but "teaching" is a huge undertaking.

Noctrine

You aren't valuing peoples time, so after awhile they are going to ignore you.

Alex M.

I'm going to improve the usual chococake recipe and add some fruit jam

like in sachertorte

AttackingHobo

@PsychOPhobiA have you ever made a game before?

Almo

8:14 PM

I made my first C64 game with no help from anyone

PsychO PhobiA

Once but stopped because there were things I couldn't do by my self.

Almo

we didn't have the internet back then

I got a few things from magazine articles

PsychO PhobiA

I wish i can go to a game dev school

Almo

but most of it was figuring it out from the computer's manual.

Noctrine

What things couldn't you do by yourself?

Alex M.

8:15 PM

I made my first game for money, I'm such a moneywhore :'(

Noctrine

Learn those things, then continue.

AttackingHobo

@PsychOPhobiA If you don't know how to do something, search it

Noctrine

Take Hasherr and Grey for examples.

Alex M.

yup

Almo

^

Pip

8:15 PM

@Noctrine what about me :P

Alex M.

Grey is the #1 developer at making awesome looking things

that are never finished

Pip

that is true

Alex M.

Pip is

Noctrine

I haven't seen recent stuff from you Pip :\

Alex M.

well

Pip

:P just kidding

AttackingHobo

8:16 PM

@PsychOPhobiA have a browser opened, and be ready to press ctrl-t for a new tab and immediately start typing your search term

Alex M.

@Noctrine he actually had some interesting stuff posted

Noctrine

Pip is awesome too, use Pip as an example as well.

Alex M.

see the project highlights

and he did link to some screens

Tarbeyon was also his concept

Noctrine

Pip is like a year older than you, Hasherr 2~, Grey 3~

Pip

yep

Noctrine

8:17 PM

But we take them very seriously.

Alex M.

is Grey an adult yet?

Noctrine

Nope

Pip

nope

Alex M.

fuck.

ok

Pip

he is 16, I think

Noctrine

8:18 PM

Why'd you delete Tarbeyon pip?

AttackingHobo

@PsychOPhobiA go make pong by yourself and get back to us with what you have learned

Pip

@Noctrine did I?

Alex M.

I still have my tarbeyon fork

if you want to work on it further

PsychO PhobiA

@AttackingHobo I don't have pygame?

Almo

@AttackingHobo never happen. he wants to fly before he can crawl

Noctrine

8:18 PM

meta.gamedev.stackexchange.com/a/1609/14

I mean the entry on the community project highlights

Pip

@AlexM. I have mine too :)

ah, idk

AttackingHobo

@PsychOPhobiA And?

Alex M.

you don't have a fork

Pip

Now I have to rewrite it :)

Alex M.

you have the original repo

Pip

8:19 PM

whatever ;)

Alex M.

yup ;)

Noctrine

@PsychOPhobiA pygame.org/news.html There you go

PsychO PhobiA

@AttackingHobo I am going to use what i know to make pong?

AttackingHobo

@AlexM. I wanted to eat this food, but I don't have a fork, guess I am going to die of starvation

Alex M.

well fork something

AttackingHobo

8:19 PM

@PsychOPhobiA no rules. Make pong. get back to us.

Alex M.

btw, is upstream and origin some sort of standard naming in git?

I've been using those unconsciously ever since I was taught git

by some guy in the arx libertatis team

Noctrine

Convention yeah

Alex M.

ok cool

I was following conventions and had no idea

►

this is one of the best trance mixes I've heard so far

PsychO PhobiA

Well I will look how to do this pong stuff

With blender of course

I have to much software that I don't even know it is even useful for

Noctrine

:O 30 question votes from a gold badge

Almo

8:24 PM

which question

Noctrine

I have to vote on 30 more questions, to get the gold badge.

Pip

cool

AttackingHobo

@PsychOPhobiA don't even use real graphics, just use white rectangles

Pip

yep

that's what I did once upon a time

actually, I made a Pong app, too

PsychO PhobiA

Okay so for the ball can be any color but the rectangles can only be white?

AttackingHobo

8:28 PM

@PsychOPhobiA start by making everything white and black only

Pip

anything can be any color :/

Noctrine

We don't care, you have no rules and no restrictions. Make Pong

Pip

it is your game

ah, no

AttackingHobo

stylize it later

Almo

@PsychOPhobiA Details!!! Just make the game!

Pip

8:28 PM

No tutorials!

Almo

Get the bats and balls working!

Pip

Make the game!

Alex M.

don't listen to these guys

make the graphics

Almo

if everything is purple, we don't care.

Alex M.

is dwarf fortress the game of the year?

Almo

8:28 PM

just make the game, and it can look however you want

Alex M.

fuck no, it's crysis

Almo

because it's yours

that's the cool part man

Batophobia

@PsychOPhobiA This meant to get you familiar with basic concepts like AI, input, etc.

PsychO PhobiA

Can I code the rectangle to limit how far it moves?

Almo

just start coding

these answers will come as you go

PsychO PhobiA

8:29 PM

Okay

Almo

first step make it so the player can move a stick up and down

worry about details later, when problems crop up

Pip

@Noctrine fix'd

Almo

like "ok the stick moves up and down. but it can move off the top or bottom of the screen. how do I stop this?" Then solve that problem at that time.

worrying about how your first game looks is a surefire way not to finish it.

8

Pip

meta.gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/1576/… if anyone wants to read the Tarbeyon post

AttackingHobo

@PsychOPhobiA start breaking the problems down into small parts that are individually easy to solve

Pip

8:31 PM

Envio post soon

PsychO PhobiA

Okay

Noctrine

These unanswered questions from 2012 and 2011 make me sad :(

Alex M.

I saw an unanswered unity question today and answered it

yay to me

Noctrine

Wooo!

Alex M.

1

A: Dealing with numerous, simultaneous sounds in unity

But I wonder if I could just remove that management logic altogether, and create audio sources on the fly for new sounds. Don't create and destroy "numerous" audio sources on each frame, you'll just slow the game down eventually. Allocation is not your only issue there, but also the garbage ...

at least it was not another patterns question

or code question

MLM

8:39 PM

I answered a question I had outstanding from 2012 yesterday. Icy's query reminded me

Christoph

good night gamedevs!

Icy Defiance

ooh, we dropped under 1700 unanswered questions again

the number is slowly going down

MLM

@IcyDefiance It seems my question is still in your query though

Icy Defiance

the data that query pulls from doesn't get updated instantly, though it is odd that it's still there after a day...

Noctrine

@IcyDefiance Trying to get that badge :p

Icy Defiance

8:43 PM

badge?

Noctrine

gamedev.stackexchange.com/help/badges/44/electorate

Icy Defiance

interesting... I wonder why that 25% restriction is there

oh right, another question I've had for a while. if someone votes on a question after it drops from the front page, does it do anything at all for the question's visibility?

I guess it moves it higher in the unanswered list, if you sort that list by votes... but other than that

Noctrine

It's higher on the sorted question lists

MLM

Just got the revival badge. Thanks for the votes

Icy Defiance

lol I got my nice answer badge on what may be the simplest answer I've made here so far. it's been annoying me all day. XD

Noctrine

8:49 PM

5

Q: Shader | Special Effect - Unit selection

I would like to know how the shaders used to show which unit is selected are made. Here is an image to illustrate. How the merge effect of the blue circles can be achieved ? I didn't found any explanation concerning this effect. I know that to project those texture I can develop a decal sy...

I bet someone here can take that one :D

Joe

@IcyDefiance gotta love that - i remember putting in a ton of time trying to be witty and thorough in answers, getting no traction

then doing a basic no brainer that gets like double digits

Noctrine

Annnnd, reached the vote limit. Been awhile since that.

Almo

                        switch (obj.ObjectivesTypes[subObjectiveIndex])
                        {
                            case ObjectiveData.ObjectiveActionType.sink:
                                {
                                    ObjectivesEarned[levelIndex][objectiveIndex].Add(new SinkObjective(obj));
                                }
                                break;

using UnityVS to debug

when the PC hits the swtich statement and I hit F10 to step, it does continue instead

wtf

adding breakpoints in the cases to see if that will stop it...

"unable to step problem reading metadata"

o_0

ok restarting VS and putting in the extra breakpoints fixed it.

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