if you're going to argue, at least listen to the other side instead of endlessly spouting irrelevant bullshit

I'll ask once more

fourth picture, yet another reddit post claiming that zoey attacked them. anyone can post anything on any reddit. this post is a one-sided account of a legal dispute. the article you posted earlier pointed out that zoey has an IP claim to that charity event, which means she probably has a legitimate argument about what its terms should be. the reddit post claims she has not been cooperative, but that is also (reddit) hearsay. not evidence of a conspiracy

" Why do you think a single no-name indi dev can command different websites to do things"

As a response I got crap about the 4chan exodus and how they ban poor users for posting illegal things

Sorry I'm getting really worked up about this now

@SpartanDonut Creeepy ...

I dont even like Zoey Quinn

She's too agressive

@RoyT. if that's true, you should stop

@SethBattin the important part of the 3rd picture is an entire subreddit being banned, which AGAIN did not exist for anything against reddit's TaC. why the fuck do you keep saying that over and over again? it's a fucking lie. it has nothing to do with why the things have been deleted or banned.

i'm still in this because i can carry on a level discussion in spite of this kind of thing, but don't give yourself a heart attack over there

Argghhh

@SethBattin you're right

if you say one more time that things must have been hateful because they were deleted, which is the most backward retarded logic I have ever heard, then I will put you on ignore

no, deleted because hateful

not hateful becuase deleted

that's like saying when an unarmed black guy gets shot by police then he must have been doing something to deserve it

i have seen the twitter, i have seen the youtube, and i have seen the (still not) deleted reddit threads

hateful

yeah people hate zoe quinn, but hate is not against any rules

people hate ISIS too but should that be censored?

HEY EVERYONE WE HAVE TO LIKE ISIS NOW BECAUSE HATE IS BAD MMKAY?

@IcyDefiance so you want to believe the posts got deleted because ZOey commanded it, Seth wants to believe the post got deleted because they contained hateful content

and all we have is pictures from imgur

are you genuinely making that comparison? it seems you aren't trying to have a rational argument anymore

@RoyT. except I have proof that zoe requested it, while seth doesn't have anything

I totally believe she requested it

@RoyT. i would say i'm not trying to believe anything, i'm trying to show that they aren't proof of anything

I would too if someone would spam an entire forum with hate against me

@SethBattin the comparison is valid. just because you like the subject of hate does not make the hate deserving of deletion. that's the whole concept of free speech right there.

no, it isn't

reddit is not the constitution

they can delete what they want to delete

yeah, and we can rage about it

ok, that's fine. just don't use it as proof of a conspiracy

it ain't

it's not, the part where zoe requested it is proof

why?

I like trains

@Lasse :)

people hate on people and things every day on reddit. there are subreddits dedicated to hating thousands of different people and corporations. 50% of the front page at any given moment is articles about some evil person or company doing some evil thing and how we should dislike them now. none of this ever gets deleted, nor should it ever be deleted, because people have to know when they're getting fucked by an evil entity.

how about people?

do we have to hate people?

So basically anyone asking anything to be removed and it happening is a conspiracy

How about decency

ffs

Has ZOey no rights

@SethBattin sometimes we should, yes

disagree

zoe deserves to be hated

well, reddit is not obligated to participate in that

What is that precious moral high ground you are on?

neither is indiegogo, like they said in their letter from your 5th picture

You literally want a platform for hate

disgusting

@SethBattin then why don't they delete every post calling some random person evil?

why only this one?

what about michael jordon? there are a lot of stories about how he never tips and he's generally an asshole to everyone. should people not be allowed to ever hear those?

can't say. maybe they should. maybe those other posts are public information and not personal

maybe he should ask sites to take that down

maybe he doesn't get death threats every day

or what about comcast and how they're pushing to ruin everything that makes the internet awesome? should we not be allowed to hate them for that?

why is hating evil people so bad that all evidence of it must be deleted?

there is a difference between corps and peeps

posting about the bad practices of a corporation is not the same as giving people a venue to hate a person

@RoyT. there's really not... corporations are run by people...

....

or what about the senators who sponsored SOPA? should we not be allowed to know their names?

They are public representatives

and public corporations

or what about westboro baptist church? should we not be allowed to know about their protests at funerals?

note the word public

surely you wouldn't say that we shouldn't hate westboro

organization...

nope, a few families

people

we know their names too, or should all that information be deleted from the internet?

hell we don't even know zoe's real name. the supposed dox on her, even if it wasn't done by herself, still contained fake info.

I believe that no corporation (such as an immage board or reddit) should be forced to make it possible to defame, harass, or spout lies, or allow personal information to be visible, from private person.

*a private person

I don't get why you think "fuck michael jordon" or "fuck zoe quinn" is deserving of a ban

if it was just fuck zoey quinn no-one would've cared about it

except the comments being deleted weren't even that bad

So lets stay with the actual situation

I am, you're not

I know the comments weren't bad, you're just assuming they were because you want to defend this horrible person

lol

holy crap bluebeast i have never been so happy to hear from you

right... ok we're back where we started

and you're just assuming its a conspiracy

well

lets stop here

I'm only getting angry now

I saw the comments before they were deleted. They weren't doxxing her, they weren't encouraging harassment, they weren't anything remotely like that. Most of them weren't even talking about zoe, they were just saying, "Yeah there's no evidence, but we all knew gaming journalists were corrupt anyway, so this wouldn't be news even if it was true."

THESE were the comments that were deleted

That sounds extremely improbable

the harassment and all that happened AFTER the comments were deleted, and that wasn't even on reddit at all, it was just a few people acting on their own

Just like this guy who just tweeted at me that GamerGate is mostly run by girls...

@RoyT. don't give a shit how it sounds. I was there. That is what happened.

I personally upvoted several of the comments before they got deleted

and all the deletions happened immediately after a mod contacted zoe through twitter

now. what conclusion is to be drawn from this?

@SethBattin Just watching, reading, and learning from Icy, and Roy

@IcyDefiance time for lol

aww, but I can't alt-tab away from that to argue like I can with skyrim :(

@IcyDefiance if this is true, and 100% of the story, then its a problem

that's the idea :)

@IcyDefiance I'm alt-tabbing from dota for this :P

My new router arrives tomorrow :D

fingers crossed it solves my problems

@RoyT. oh no, it's only a small fraction of the story, but the rest only gets worse.

AWESOME (take a screen shot of your port forwarding to put into the new one)

I don't have a lot

Probably nothing I'll miss that can't be configured again

:)

@RoyT. oh and as even more proof, here is the blog post that was censored along with all of the comments on it: twitlonger.com/show/n_1s4nmr1

tell me if there is anything in there encouraging harassment or doxxing

A guy on SU chat helped me telnet into my router and retrieve the ISP password I entered oh so long ago so that I didn't have to call tech support :D

woa

that's pretty cool

i didn't even know you could telnet into a router

doesn't work on mine :(

Well technically it was a developer back door trick he knew about... so basically anyone on my network could compromise it

@RoyT. well, one of the posts that was censored. the other was by the asshole boyfriend, and I would understand if that post was deleted, though the comments on it didn't deserve to deleted along with it.

I had to download an app and run it with some specific parameters to enable the telnet on my router

okay I have to go afk for a couple minutes, then @Almo I'll join you

ok

@IcyDefiance I nudge a small part into your direction, because I believe you're not trying to deceive me. However, I still can't even come close to thinking of this as a conspiracy

Or see any bad intentions, of course other than people sending death threats to each other (both sides now).

comment on a Java question: "Got 99 problems and 2147483648 aint 1."

conspiracy or not, this is what people are angry about. they're not sending zoe death threats just because she's a female gamedev and they don't like it. that's ridiculous.

hahahaha

nice almo

They should send reddit threats

If they really believe they give in to this conspiracy

and not a single person who got her private life exposed everywhere

But we definitely will not agree on that, it seems

So I bid you all goodnight

sleep well, roy

@RoyT. except she didn't because the info was fake :)

i'm still laughing about that one

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roy give it up

go to sleep

Go home, Roy. You're drunk.

@Pip sooooo what about that non-scam Anonabox that got removed from kickstarted due to it being a scam.

whoa

so it is

Just heard about that on the latest Tek: youtube.com/watch?v=wAXmnTw3uM4

oh, it's a resale scam

well...the device is still real

or is it?

@SethBattin its a real device, and its not secure

you could still install tor on it

and perhaps they would have

that was the gist of their campaign anyway; you could do this yourself, or you could pay us to do it for you

its built on shitty Chinese hardware with no security guarantee. It was pitched as something it was not.

@SethBattin reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/2j9caq/…

but the security is in the usage of tor, not the router

if you have hardware that has backdoors you can never secure it with software

I'm out not gonna argue, read that reddit post, anything I could say is said better there

that'sa big thread, point me that the part where th hardware isn't secure

"hey are intentionally misleading the public (LYING) about the device being fully open source, while it’s not. Hardware, the most important part of the device, is not open source. It’s a Chinese knockoff of TP-Link “3G routers” which opens the possibilities for a hardware backdoors in the hardware (think of Huawei backdoors). The reason why they did so is simple, nobody would buy the device in such numbers. Everyone would just build their own device."

they*

"OpenWRT is so BADLY configured by Anonabox team that device that is supposed to protect you is actually giving away your information. The device has BACKDOOR root password, OPEN wireless network (so anyone can connect to it) and is shipped with SSHD!!! This means that anyone can take control of the device!"

"The Anonabox guy (and his helpers) are amateurs. They are offering fully secure device (and encrypted as they point out wrongfully) to people who need the anonymity. Their target group are non-tech people, journalists and whistle-blowers who are supposed to trust their LIFE to this piece of Chinese knockoff!"

interesting

so, a root password can be changed

and sshd isn't a liability, it's a feature of a router that can be accessed directly

so yes, it could have bad software, but you have the full faculties to determine that and change it

so speculating that the software is bad seems like a mistake

sup buoys

dd-wrt.com/site/index

this is what I run

Got 99 problems and 2147483648 aint 1.

hunh... Good or bad idea to set the age and gender for targeting ads for Skippy Fish?

I'm thinking teens, and I guess both? Or maybe I should just let Google do whatever

@Jon can you compare it to openwrt?

I've only used openwrt

oh...i see, i didn't look hard enough at the description of ddwrt

so what do you think, if you owned the hardware from anonabox, would it be unsecurable?

i haven't looked into it

I used to be hardcore into networking

we had packet analysers

load balancers

crazy firewalls

i wasn't allowed to touch the firewalls :)

firewalls be crazy

one of our projects had a full security audit, for actual security instead of the credit card companies' insurance

they complained that our firewall made their whole attack plan fail, and they wanted us to turn it off

I used to administer a 300+ server farm

yeesh

The servers would call me

at whatever time

Various different thresholds that were not suppose to be hit -- when they got hit, it would page me

are you glad that's not your job anymore? :)

yes. lol

@IcyDefiance so i'm pretty sure that picture is fake

it's a 1536px tall screenshot

it only has one reward, for $2000, which no one purchased, but it has $25,000 and change in funding

and also the video says "you are an idiot"

honestly man, you're trolling, right? you don't believe that stuff you posted, do you?

yo

i haven't played your game for a while, has it had any updates lately?

Evening.

heya

Long time no see Seth :)

you as well

i haven't been active except for the last week or two

I've been busy lately.

GOOD

Busy is good.

my busy has been all work

i've been fighting to get a little game in there, though

Same, I need to work on something that is intrigueing.

@SethBattin chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/full-page-screen-capture/… aaand crowdfundinsider.com/2014/08/…

it was hacked, not actually closed by indiegogo

or so the gamejam's owner claimed

I thought that was clear from the donate button still being enabled, but I probably should've explained it more clearly

oh...ok

i don't have any more energy to try to wrestle with that one

or what happened to it, or what...i jsut thought the picture was funny

oh, dangit....

i just realized what your associated comment means

this project was hacked...the worst thing she did...

uuuuugggggggg

It's all a conspiracy! The butler did it! Women are evil!

man

tired

@DwarfSlice not women, woman. just one here.

Eh, I don't plan on entering that discussion, sorry.

too bad, you've entered it now

No thanks.

@hasherr do you have a gamepad?

I don't.

okie, nevermind. i was going to ask you to see how my javascript gamepad support worked for you

Same build as the other day @SethBattin?

yeah, no changes. still just polling people

i know it needs improvement and all

oh, dang, i need @JohnMcDonald to take a look though. you're a js guy

... yup, what?

I don't have a gamepad either

aw :(

well, regardless: itsobviously.com/bullets

Waitin' for the Steam Controller, drools

So apparently the Code Review section of this site is not what I thought it would be :P could someone take a look at this question I posted and see what could be wrong? codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/67076/…

Code review is for working code that can be improved - not broken code

why it's a bad question, or what's wrong with your code?

Ahh... isn't webdev glorious? Shooting doesn't work in FF, :/

keyboard event properties.

i know.

that's what i get for not including jquery

yeah, I can't blame you. One of my jams worked only in FF, the other only in Chrome. lol

sigh

the goal is for the bottom level input object for keyboard ia to handle that problem

Yeah I guess I didn't read enough or something lol

i'm just not doing that correctly yet

@SethBattin whats wrong with the code

ah...i'll keep the link up, but i can't spend debugging power on it at the moment, too much work stuff. Only spare braincycles for chatting

One design note: I was pressing space to shoot, not knowing that I could move the mouse around. Is there a reason you don't use the left mouse button since you have to use the mouse anyway?

the only reason is bad design by me

that would certainly make more sense

Yeah, probably. Maybe also allow the space button, but left mouse seems to make sense to me

there is a longer-term goal of an input config system

the input middle-layer unifies inputs and assigns them arbitrary string tags to fetch from any type of input

there is no way for the user to define those, but i mean for there to be

yeah, much like quake/hl/most games

haha

it is nontrivial to implement

Yeah... I can imagine

Fun though, :)

Right?

YES

i think it makes for a high-quality feature, too, if it can be done correctly

the difference between a game in which you can configure the input and one in which you can't

yup

it's a subtle nicety

but i am essentially at the point of creating a GUI for it

pressing the tab key switches between two configurations, and it's a short step from there to being driven by user input

I only mentioned Quake/Half-Life because they use a pretty cool system to bind keys imo. It's all done through console commands, eg: "bind mwheelup shoot", and when you configure your keys in the UI, all it does is generate a startup config file that it runs to bind all the keys

@SethBattin Cool

yeah that's pretty smart

Ok... there has to be a simpler/better way to represent the following:

	float cameraFixedPos = SkipperTransform.position.y - 1.8f;
	float cameraFlowPos = SkipperTransform.position.y / 4;
	if (cameraFixedPos > cameraFlowPos)
	{
		CameraTransformWrap.Y = cameraFixedPos;
	}
	else
	{
		CameraTransformWrap.Y = cameraFlowPos;
	}

allowing scripting in those files also leads to weirdness in the game, such as people in Q3 with rocketjump scripts

@Almo yup, that and let people have more than 2 binds to the same thing

yeah

and MwheelUP/down = shoot. lol

:D

Semi-auto guns are awesome

So yeah... to describe the code above. It's trying to keep the camera focus point on the fish in Skippy Fish. Fish moves up, camera moves up with it (fish.y / 4), and if the fish goes off the screen, camera uses fish.y -1.8f (arbitrary #)

What's the problem? Looks pretty clean IMO

doesn't look bad to me either

Well... it does what's required, but I'm wondering if there's a way to make the transition a little more gentle

It's a rather sudden change from /4 to -1.8

you could lerp it

make it take a full second or two to reach that ratio

Move at a constant velocity to the target position.

Lerping has the side effect of never actually reaching the goal

@JohnMcDonald You've done a good bit of awesomium right?

@ClassicThunder yes

I've got a gif here, just to help out.

Umm... Lerping, I don't know how to apply it here

tbh, I'm probably nit-picking here

float targetYPosition = 0;
float targetMaxDelta = 5f;

void Update()
{
	float cameraFixedPos = SkipperTransform.position.y - 1.8f;
	float cameraFlowPos = SkipperTransform.position.y / 4;
	if (cameraFixedPos > cameraFlowPos)
	{
		this.targetYPosition = cameraFixedPos;
	}
	else
	{
		this.targetYPosition = cameraFlowPos;
	}

	CameraTransformWrap.Y = Mathf.MoveTowards(CameraTransformWrap.Y, this.targetYPosition, targetMaxDelta * Time.deltaTime);
}

Ah never mind did my usual thing of figuring it out the second I go to ask a question. Thinking of making the rendering part of my UI library powered by awesomium using Offscreen Views.