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12:01 AM
all-sarcasm conversations kind of bother me
 
The sad part about what I can do is it can put me in hail
so I won't attempt to do things I don't understand just yet
Maybe when I work for the Gov I could be the best hacker in the world
Impossible
@SethBattin You give up?
 
on what?
 
On trying to figure out how to do the things I just did?
It could technically be anything but google it man
 
i honestly don't know what you did
 
:/ aww.... its a tie now
I can't find your email and you can't figure out what I did
Well this is just horrible
 
12:06 AM
was it posting that url?
 
@Lasse I need to build a virus to do so
It has to be stealthy and very slick
 
Nice.
 
Problem is these hackers going around can't actually properly set up a virus
Another thing is getting into a users computer :/
 
Jon
drug users typically pawn their pcs.. making it hard to hack into.. since they are mostly not powered on
 
But drug users aren't as smart as a hacker
Think about it... a drug user's are in the drug industry working with drug trafficers and stuff
Those drug addicts out their are more than likely dumb and thats how they get caught
They lack the knowledge to even to make the FBI or anyone believe they are here when they are actually over there.
it is quiet possible but then again there are all kinds of hackers
Those who hack games (idiotic kids mostly) and these kids don't test it, they just do it. Those who can hack into your computer from another country monitoring what you are doing like the ISP's. Those who can control your computer without you noticing anything odd (virus), and those hackers are pretty dangerous cause they can get you in deep trouble by anyone.
You can simply tell the Police you didn't do it (you may not even have done it) and they will think you lying because they'd have the proof.
 
12:15 AM
since you're such a great hacker, can you tell me if there's any faster way to do this:
 
mat4 QuaternionToMat4(vec4 quat)
{
	// normalize and create a local copy of the vector.
	vec3 axis = normalize(quat.xyz);

	// calculate angles
	float c = cos(-quat.w);
	float s = sin(-quat.w);
	float t = 1.0f - c;

	// do the conversion math once
	float tXX = t * axis.x * axis.x;
	float tXY = t * axis.x * axis.y;
	float tXZ = t * axis.x * axis.z;
	float tYY = t * axis.y * axis.y;
	float tYZ = t * axis.y * axis.z;
	float tZZ = t * axis.z * axis.z;
	float sinX = s * axis.x;
	float sinY = s * axis.y;
 
Jon
heh.
looks pretty solid
 
@Lasse I only hack in python
Its easy and slick
 
oh I thought all great hackers used assembler
 
12:16 AM
Hackers don't have to use assemblers.
 
Jon
lol... oh
this is getting dumb
 
Lol yeah.... not all of them
 
Jon
explain to me, what assemblers are
 
Easy...
 
I was wondering if the shader compiler would actually be so smart that it could optimize out all those t * axis.x to a single one and just use it as variable there
 
12:19 AM
Okay my understanding with one is decent
So as I learned quiet a bit of this:
 
one what?
 
Hackers can use assemblers as coded instructions.
Those instructions can be carried over to what ever they want really.
 
@7Blue_Beast7 just shut up, we're playing with you here. You're just making yourself look more stupid when you don't really have no idea what you are talking about.
 
@Lasse I do
 
ok.
why don't you go to C++ lounge to tell them how cool hacker you are
they are all cool hackers there
just like you
 
12:22 AM
But why?
Hackers aren't to be heard?
 
so you wouldn't have to be here with us lesser people
 
They can tell some
No.
A hacker is to hide with lesser people so those higher of them would think "oh... he ain't no hacker", "he just some poor old man"
If I went in that room and said that they'd freak out but they'd get to my IP address as I could to them
 
does your dad know about your issues?
 
Nope because I don't have any.
Just a guy who says some random half az mess to see what the smart ones have to say!!! haahahaha
But hey thats how I get around to learning
For real though I do know a bit of hacking
Watch this
Ima go into the room you said for me to go into and Ima say something
 
that's hacking?
 
12:27 AM
@Lasse give me the link to the room of C++ loung
Nvm found it
Oh crap
 
ok, long workweek, time to get back to the game
 
Oh hail
Oh yeah!!!!!
Im about to change user pic
Holy I did it
Watch this
I can even change my own usernam
Doodoo
Nice
I'd never try this on anyone
okay I am done with this hard mess
Bye all!
Nice fun talking
 
12:44 AM
@Lasse assembly*
assembler is what compiles assembly
 
shus
I was, uhh, testing him or something, yes
 
Wait for reall?
 
you said you left
 
Oh yeah.....
Bye all!
 
oh I have him on ignore, so I totally missed the joke
 
12:45 AM
lol
I'm wondering if I should send the rotation to the shader as a quaternion or as a mat3
 
Jon
what are you trying to do?
 
mat3 would be a lot less calculating in the shader
 
just send the euler angles as a vector3
fuck da police
 
I'm trying to fix what instancing broke, which is normal calculations
 
Jon
^
if you just need the 4 vals, then send the mat3
 
12:49 AM
I've always combined the translation/rotation/scale into a single matrix before sending it to the shader
 
mat3 would be really easy to convert to mat4 with translation and scaling
yeah but if the matrix has scaling, it will break normals
so I have to send another matrix
which again would be way too much stuff to send
 
Jon
why is that way too much?
 
some gpus limit the amount of vertex attributes
 
normals should have a W of 0 which I thought would prevent a scale matrix from changing them
I know it prevents translation from changing them
 
it doesn't
 
12:51 AM
well that's odd. maybe I just didn't notice it because I haven't really scaled things yet.
 
scaling matrix would look like:
x 0 0 0
0 y 0 0
0 0 z 0
0 0 0 1
so it overlaps with the rotation matrix
 
right, okay
 
which is why scaling breaks normals
 
in that case, just normalize the normals again after applying the matrix to them
 
Jon
yeah, why not just divide the normals by the scale factor?
 
12:53 AM
that would break them too
it'd be easy if it worked like that :D
 
oh, if the scale was uneven?
god, my brain is broken today
 
who knows what kind of scaling the matrix has, it might even be inherited from some parent object and have rotations before the scaling, and then rotations again
 
Jon
i put my matrices math aside, and started using wrappers
Matrix.CreateRotation
thanks..
 
but I might need to do this in the shader, which has no Matrix.CreateRotation
 
Jon
right..
 
12:56 AM
but I guess it'd be a lot simpler if I just sent over mat3 and converted that to whatever I needed in the shader, which would save a lot of calculation
yeah, vec3 pos, vec3 scale and mat3 rotation
not as much data as mat4 mvp and mat3 normalMatrix
 
but they're separate things so you have to call setuniform or whatever more times, so I bet it'll be slightly slower. :D
I wonder if a uniform buffer would solve that...
you'd only need one call to set all 3 variables, right?
 
no uniforms here
 
it's instanced draw call, so I have to send them in as buffer object
GL.BindBuffer(BufferTarget.ArrayBuffer, mbo[material]);
GL.VertexAttribPointer(pos1, 4, VertexAttribPointerType.Float, false, stride, Vector4.SizeInBytes * 0);
GL.VertexAttribPointer(pos2, 4, VertexAttribPointerType.Float, false, stride, Vector4.SizeInBytes * 1);
GL.VertexAttribPointer(pos3, 4, VertexAttribPointerType.Float, false, stride, Vector4.SizeInBytes * 2);
GL.VertexAttribPointer(pos4, 4, VertexAttribPointerType.Float, false, stride, Vector4.SizeInBytes * 3);
GL.EnableVertexAttribArray(pos1);
like that
mbo stands for matrix buffer object, which is just a vertex buffer object
 
ooh now that's interesting. don't think I did my instanced drawing that way, but it looks a lot better than what I remember.
 
1:02 AM
the 1 in VertexAttribDivisor tells opengl that I want to give this data to the vertices per instance
 
very cool. I'll have to keep that in mind.
 
0 means per vertex and 2 would be for every two instances
and so on
so yeah, it's cool feature
 
Jon
1:17 AM
with you, the force, may be
 
I tried to find a spesific yoda image I have made, but google image search didn't deliver it any more, but I found this:
I'll just leave that there
hmm I wonder do I still own the domain the image was hosted on hmm
.IN Domain Renewal
YODABRA.IN
1 domain(s)
1 Year(s)
2014-03-13
yes I still seem to own it
 
batt.in is owned by someone in france who isn't using it. makes me angry
 
1:32 AM
@SethBattin I used whois and reached out to the guy who owned intellisenseless.com and he just gave it to me
 
Jon
1:50 AM
i asked a guy who owned gallant.com if I could have the domain
he said no
i was like, wtf not, you aint' doing shit with it you lamer
 
Anonymous
@Jon Did you say it in those exact words? :-)
 
Jon
heh, maybe, its been a while.
What you up to tonight @snailboat
 
@Jon whats this? UFO?
 
Jon
i dunno.. its like 8bit overtop a real pic
i thought it looked cool
 
yeah it looked like some 8 bit image from the thumb, but I'm not sure if it is
 
Jon
2:05 AM
I think it was taken with a faulty camera
 
Anonymous
@Jon Not very much. Certainly not working on my game.
 
Anonymous
If I did that, I might actually finish it.
 
Jon
what is your game?
 
Anonymous
I started making a little Flash game a while ago, and I haven't gotten around to finishing it yet.
 
Anonymous
If I talk about it, then I'll really never finish it. :-)
 
Jon
2:10 AM
that is an old wivestale
what is it about?
 
Anonymous
It's a little game about a snail
 
Jon
oh nice
already interested
 
Is the snail in a boat?
 
Jon
slurm mckenzie ladies and gentlemen
 
MLM
 
Anonymous
2:15 AM
 
Jon
yessss screeeensss
looks metroid/megamanesc
 
2:28 AM
I hate it when windows is being overly protective.
Flagging files that inject functionality as virus.
And even when I tell it to allow it, it ignores my instructions and deletes the file ...
 
such a great operating system
 
It's fine that it catches suspect files, but at least respect my decision :P
 
Jon
that's like asking a person to mutilate himself, and then being offended that he didn't want to do it
the earliest screenshot of my game I could find
love looking at older pics makes me feel good :D
 
:)
 
Jon
i literally have a collection of pics and gifs of my progression
from that 1st pic, to that 2nd pic
keep the trend going, and when the game comes out, i could publish the dev diary
or maybe do that now if I can get to it.
a visual dev diary that is.
 
2:49 AM
damn I wish I had some test assets like that
the usual test assets, while they are very functional, are really dull looking:
(not mine either)
 
@RoyT. Weird :D
@Jon lookin really nice :)
If anybody cares, I met my wife in late 1992, we started dating a bit Feb 1993, and were serious within a week or two. 7 years later, we got married, and we still are.
My friend at college (vain guy, good singer, smart, probably ADD) was after this chick from choir
He invited me over one night to give her the "weird test" and make sure she wouldn't flip out if there were strange behavior around
she passed.
later, she passed the "smart test" by seeing a film with him and having a good conversation about it afterward (Leap of Faith with Steve Martin).
but she liked me better than him, because he didn't listen to her. He's self-centered.
he took it personally that she picked me over him, since he saw me as less attractive given the way I dressed.
took years for him to get over it.
@IcyDefiance you here?
 
According to my friends list Icy is 25 minutes into a LoL match
 
ah ok
dork playin without me! :D
@IcyDefiance wonder if he hears the pings
@IcyDefiance hahaha
 
@IcyDefiance hahahaha
 
god damn it you assholes
in a game right now
 
3:03 AM
@IcyDefiance we know!
 
@IcyDefiance Yeah we do!
 
(I love technology)
it can be used for such childish shit
 
(I love annoying people)
 
@IcyDefiance don't make me ban you from chat for that language
@IcyDefiance kidding
@IcyDefiance don't hate me
@IcyDefiance just wanted to ping you
 
It's not funny Todders. @IcyDefiance is in an important game.
@IcyDefiance can't concentrate with you pinging him all the time.
You should feel bad for pinging @IcyDefiance constantly.
 
3:13 AM
@IcyDefiance what you playin'?
@IcyDefiance oh, LoL, allright
okay, I'll go sleep now, good night
them silly normals, all wrong and everything
now bed ->
 
3:32 AM
@Almo okay done now
 
:O
THAT WAS INTENSE
great carry man
I thought you guys were going to lose that moment draven/leona got caught and you teleported in for the win
@IcyDefiance wow
 
yeah I think they dropped the ward exactly for that purpose or something
the timing and position was too good
 
was a good move
 
my E didn't work to take out vi for some reason. pissed me off. but it worked out anyway.
 
@Almo
 
3:38 AM
hehhe you played really well, Icy
 
Okay fine
I'll admit it
 
I can do one game, if you're up for one
 
So the only reason I acted the way I act is because I had fell on the floor when I was just a little guy :C
F-ed my head up and now I am a Psycho pathic dude who gets computer bullied by you guys because I am crazy :C
One of these days... man... one of these days...
I am just a iregular guy who is excused from everyone rather than being involved in the best :C
 
3:53 AM
@Lasse Starcraft?
I thought starcraft was worse than WoW
 
4:13 AM
@7Blue_Beast7 no one here bullies you. That kind of behavior isn't allowed
 
4:41 AM
hhah he's saying people bully him?
I've seen bullying, and by comparison we've been pretty patient
gotta sleep now night folks
 
he gets some slack in here
it might not be bullying, but it isn't kind
how much of it he brings on himself, and how much is others' poor reactions to it is up for debate
 
Well, his behavior made people lose any amount of patience they may have had with him. So I just put him on ignore, and now I don't even have the temptation to say something nasty.
 
that is a fine reaction
but engaging him in a mocking way isn't, i don't think
it has happened
 
5:04 AM
I don't know how to deal with him....
I try not to respond too much
And I mean... when the guy is bragging about hacking when he's just pasting URLs of all the links we post...
 
it's tempting to give him shit, no doubt. i did it today too
 
5:26 AM
Or habitually lying about how awesome his dad is
Though maybe he is the son of a leet hacker who is lead of one of biggest EVE corporations
 
i think he just says whatever gets a reaction
there's an ongoing cycle of "I don't understand why people ignore me" and "because you say things that should be ignored",
so any reasonable person would just stop saying those things, but he doesn't
so probably the worst thing to do is call him out on...anything
 
5:45 AM
I really only see a few extremes and don't know if there is much else...
1. Just never respond to him
2. Talk to him about his behavior and attempt to remedy it
3. Ban
And when I say never talk to him... I mean anyone
I don't see 2 being feasible
 
Anonymous
@7Blue_Beast7 I'm reasonably confident you can interact normally if you want to.
 
Anonymous
As for everyone else, do we really need to discuss this at length?
 
Anonymous
It doesn't seem like a very productive conversation
 
I don't fully agree with you but ok
though I guess I will agree this is probably not the right place
My apologies
 
 
1 hour later…
user92578
7:17 AM
Morning
 
Heyo
 
greets
 
7:30 AM
trying to install MySQL... The installer throws an error that a String is not recognised as a DateTime somewhere. /sigh
supposed fix is to change Windows' date settings to MM/DD/YY instead of DD/MM. sigh again
 
8:05 AM
Have you tried installing through the web platform installer?
 
ah thanks, that looks interesting, but nah just doing the installer from mysql.com. Date change solved the issue luckily
(just getting my local dev website outfit setup again)
 
user92578
How do you guys make your sound effects?
 
8:29 AM
I use bfxr, bfxr.net
Sigh, installed some drivers off my motherboard dvd for devices that Windows Update didn't pick up... and now Windows won't boot! Today is not my day
 
Hahah, wow. Magic Online's client is so bad that they have support people ready during each Top 8 to remedy the technical issues that will come up: i.imgur.com/5Ygsszs.jpg
 
facedesk
 
lol :(
 
It really isn't rocket science
It's a damn card game
 
Thing is, people pay to get into those tournaments.
It's just ridiculous.
 
8:34 AM
People pay for all their digital cards too
They have to be making a fortune on the game
 
"sorry guys, we suck at programming, hang on"
 
They should probably do a Refactor Year or just completely rewrite the whole thing. It's so bad it's almost funny.
 
yeah, heh
 
Anyway, I'm gonna go to a real-life tournament where that kind of shit can't happen. See ya!
 
gl
 
8:37 AM
hf
 
Thanks, I'll need the luck ;)
 
whelp, okay, Windows still boots. Just added 2 minutes to my boot time is all O_O
no HDD activity with the windows logo saying Starting Windows for 2 mins
lalala
 
 
3 hours later…
user92578
11:13 AM
Trying out some rain:
 
user92578
 
user92578
But if I add enough rain to make it even look good, my frames start to drop
 
user92578
 
user92578
11:38 AM
Is there a way to alter the way CSS/HTML renders a font?
 
user92578
I'd like to customize the rendering so that it matches with my ingame rendering
 
user92578
basicaly rendering the text with a black background and an outline and then with the main color
 
user92578
Ah, text-shadow
 
11:51 AM
@Tyyppi_77 nice font
 
user92578
yeah, it was a great found
 
12:06 PM
Anyone else gets that feeling sometimes
> this game has been made 1000 times why am I wasting my time on this?
 
I'm making my engine because there aren't many made with C#
but yes, when I'm making games I get that feel especially when the art director says "hey let's copy that other game, they must have put so much research in to it and anything they have done must not have happened accidentally"
but I guess that's how you roll on the mobile market
 
@William'MindWorX'Mariager heh had forgotten about that comic
 
@Tyyppi_77 How does your particle engine work?
Sounds like something is a bit wrong if it lags from so little.
 
user92578
Nothing special; no pooling etc. @William'MindWorX'Mariager
 
user92578
How do I make the bottom part of the background element to be a darker blue than the top?
 
user92578
 
user92578
12:43 PM
The background has the sky color as the background color and then it has two image laid on top of it
 
@Tyyppi_77 put a dark rectangle on top of it?
or move the entire thing down a bit
 
user92578
yeah, and make the element with the images fixed
 
1:10 PM
use the darker color as background color and set the background image as non repeating on the Y axis
background-color: thedarkercolor;
background-image: url(theimage);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
@Tyyppi_77 that'll do it
fixed positions are bad usually
 
user92578
But the thing is that I can't change the background color because it creates the brightest blue for the sky above the images
 
user92578
it works really well now, with a fixed background ( i don't want the images to scroll)
 
then you need to make sure the background image is large enough for the most common resolutions, will it work on 1920x1200, how about 4k resolutions?
 
user92578
it'll work on 1920x1200, since it works on my monitors
 
it seems to be 1080p, not 1200 high
 
Jon
1:36 PM
@Tyyppi_77 did you fix your rain problem?
Also yeah, just draw another rect at the bottom of that page
oh that is a website?>
just put it all in a container
what is the bottleneck for the raindrops? the drawing?
 
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