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2:15 AM
@ElendilTheTall Yes, I was at church. At midnight.
How did you guess?
 
It's always the right time for church!
 
Always!
We love church!
And religion!
Imaginary bearded men in the sky!
 
And a freaky obsession with other people's sex lives!
 
That's the most important part!
 
2:20 AM
Haha, unfortunately, it seems to be...
 
Yea! God has opinions about that stuff, you know!
 
Apparently!
That's what bearded old men are like.
Sex addicts.
 
Yay Jerry Prevo!
 
Who?
 
Isn't that a bit creepy?
Jerry Prevo is that Alaskan minister I hate so much.
 
2:26 AM
Ahh.
Him.
 
The one that spews so much anti-gay hate speech from the pulpit that I want to punch him in his nose.
And some day I just might.
 
That ^ is very creepy. But it is what happens when you sign up for Obamacare, apparently.
 
Pre-employment drug testing is in the news right now too.
Apparently a lot of companies are using it as a screen to be testing for things they have no business testing for.
Like pregnancy.
I'm making a play on this:
 
@Jolenealaska Sounds horrible!
 
I'm also going to use in it some homemade Kewpie mayo I made the other day.
Really?
I think it sounds good.
 
2:32 AM
@Jolenealaska Sounds nice!
@Jolenealaska Hey, follow the link, lady!
 
Got it :)
 
Haha.
 
It looks like I missed Tall again.
I wonder if he's seen yet that I'm just behind him in rep.
Poised to overtake.
 
Are you!
Very good.
 
Yep :)
 
2:35 AM
Not so tall any more, huh?
 
heehee :)
I still have just shy of 800 I think to actually overtake him...He'll start moving the goalposts once he sees :)
That'll put a fire under his butt!
 
If you are quick...
 
I'm going to try!
 
You shall succeed!
 
eventually it's pretty inevitable... I* have way too much time on my hands.
The dude I'm voting for as a mod on the sci-fi stack has 83.4K in just over a year on the site.
DUDE!
Do you ever sleep?!?
 
2:44 AM
Heh.
That is quite a bit, in one year.
 
He earned the "legendary" badge like 6 months after he arrived.
 
Defeat him!
He is the Borg!
 
Yeah right. Maybe here, not there!
The dressing for my slaw is yummy.
 
Well done.
 
I can always make good Asian style dressings. I am condiment hoarder. I can always whip up something.
I just learned a pretty good hack:
Maybe I'll do a quick Q&A about it. "Take THAT, Tall!"
I can put an orange into my slaw. It'll be good and I can take a picture of it!
 
3:06 AM
Mm I peel my mandarins somewhat like that.
But without cutting through the meat.
 
Just now I did it with a regular navel orange, without cutting into the meat. It works just the same.
 
Right!
 
It may not make much of a difference with Mandarins, since they're so easy to peel anyway, but the hack makes peeling a navel orange much faster.
I mean, like effortless.
 
Meh, I hate peeling mandarins.
This way, you can start eating long before you finish peeling. That's the beauty of it.
 
Ugh, I've got errands to run tomorrow, but it's about 20 below out there. (-29C).
That is just not pleasant, and it's supposed to be like that all week.
 
3:13 AM
Ouch!
Impressive.
It is around zero here.
 
0C?
It's supposed to get even colder tomorrow.
Maybe we'll hit double digits (F) on Friday. That's it, it's going to be nasty cold all week.
It's too soon to tell, but it looks like my sauerkraut set up is pretty good:
The top container is identical to the bottom container.
It has water to give it weight.
The cabbage is easily staying submerged.
And the temp under my sink should be about perfect.
 
@Jolenealaska Yeah.
Have fun with your sauerkraut!!
Sleepy time.
 
3:28 AM
The set up is the perfect size for the Alton Brown proportions of 3TBS pickling salt to 5 lbs of shredded cabbage. Goodnight!
Fermentation is not the best technique for people like me. Not Done Yet??
 
 
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4:37 AM
Can I upload an animated gif to main? How? I'm getting a "format not supported" error, but I know I've seen them. (and yes, it is actually relevant)
 
 
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7:56 AM
@ElendilTheTall It's almost the time the time that I would expect you to show up any minute.
I'm going to lay down for just a bit.
If you come around looking for me, and I'm not here, look again soon :)
I'll probably be back very soon.
 
@jolenealaska your spidey sense is impeccable
 
Speak of the devil.
 
Get a laptop, then you can lie down and chat
Either that or a recliner and arm-lengthening surgery
 
I'll stay up for a little while before my quick nap
 
Very gracious of you
 
8:07 AM
Do you know how to post an animated gif on main?
 
Just insert it as you would any other image I would think
 
Hmm...it's not working here either.
the one from this site:
 
Hmm. Works for me.
 
I keep getting "format not supported"
 
Make sure the url ends with .gif
 
8:10 AM
it does
 
If there's any extraneous gubbins after that it won't like it
 
nope...first thing I checked
 
Well, just link to the page then. Get the maker some hits.
 
That's a point.
I've added my own pics anyway.
I just made a slaw with supremed orange segments.
The hack works a treat.
 
'hack', pff
 
8:13 AM
It's like julienning bell peppers
 
I will probably lose reception in the near future, if you want to nap
 
I just might do that, but I'll be back soon if I do.
 
OK. Catch you on the flipside
 
8:42 AM
@jolene about the high rep user on scifi: larger sites just have more votes given
look at tex to see some real highscores
also on math, there is a user whose profile says "Please stop messaging me to congratulate on reaching round numbers of rep scores"
 
hehee :)
I think I might make cookies tonight. It's so damn cold outside that I don't think I am going anywhere anytime soon.
 
Cookies!
 
That reminds me. @rumtscho did you see the video I sent to you on macarons?
 
@Jolenealaska oh, sorry, no. Must have overlooked it.
 
I haven't made these in a while
 
8:47 AM
I probably won't be experimenting with them soon. I don't have the time for cooking.
But I still want to gather sources for when I get the time.
 
I'm going to look for that video again anyway.
If I were trying to make those, that video might be just the thing. I'm not a Martha Stewart fan, but that segment is pretty good.
Jan 17 at 8:47, by Jolenealaska
@rumtscho I'm not a huge fan of Martha Stewart, BUT this video for Macarons looks pretty awesome (that is what you've been trying to perfect, right?). You need a food processor, but you need a food processor anyway :) http://www.marthastewart.com/1066149/french-macarons#1066149 It's perfectly precise, which I think is kind of key here.
Well, I've checked. I've got everything to make those peanut butter, oatmeal, chocolate chip cookies. So I guess I'm up for a while to make cookies.
@rumtscho, these are what you're trying to perfect, right?
 
@Jolenealaska yes
 
Then that video is pretty good.
 
I have a meeting starting in two minutes, won't be answering for an hour or so
 
My show is coming on! :)
Downton Abbey.
 
9:19 AM
@Cerberus Speaking of Downton, it's really heating up. Now would be a good time to get caught up.
 
9:32 AM
@Jolenealaska Ah, Downton. It's more like a documentary of modern British life than a drama series
 
9:45 AM
Modern??
 
absolutely
Lord Smithington is an excellent master
 
I Googled that, but too much gibberish.
Who?
 
lol
I was joking
 
They're just now saying like, "They've (Germany) got their backs against the wall, we've pushed them too hard since the war.
They're passing through time more rapidly than we are...
I don't know what year it is, but WWII is approaching.
I find that a very interesting time of history.
It will be interesting to see it though this particular lens.
 
Hmmm
I predict Downton will be turned into a convalescence home
one of the women will fall in love with a dashing but troubled young soldier
probably suffering from PTSD and/or the loss of a limb
 
9:57 AM
heee It sounds like you've been watching it a bit :)
 
no, it's just all over the fucking place
I've never seen it
 
It's funny, since it's on PBS it has a certain highbrow rep. It's just a soap, with cool costumes and a neat set.
And Maggy Smith.
Between this and Prof McGonagall she has had one helluva twilight career.
 
Whereas here it's on ITV, the Lowest-Common-Denominator talent-show tabloid channel
 
Interesting.
 
is it
really?
 
10:10 AM
Ha!
Do you have any experience with sauerkraut?
 
I'm afraid not
I can't recall ever even eating it
 
I do not have the patience for this.
 
We didn't send Adolf packing to then start munching his infernal fermented cabbage!
 
It'll be a month before I know if it's good!
ha!!
 
@Jolenealaska my experience is that it stinks up the room in which it ferments
 
10:15 AM
I think my set-up is pretty good, but it's a hack...I don't really know.
 
you don't need much of a set up
my grandma uses a simple plastic barrel
 
I have this silly project. I'm making Reubens, with every single ingredient homemade.
 
good luck
 
So if the sauerkraut turns out, the next thing is to corn a brisket.
It's going to try to be a funny blog post.
Definition of quixotic.
 
'Tilting at Briskets'
 
10:26 AM
:)
Nice one.
 
'Tilting at Briskets: one woman's quest for the perfect Reuben'
Next stop Oprah
I have an excellent Russian Dressing recipe if you want it
 
Yes! I do!
 
Well, I don't have it to hand, but I will supply it in due course
will you be making your own cheese?
or will you be pussying out on that one?
 
On main, Rummi gave me an idea to make super melty Emmental
 
10:30 AM
oops
copy and paste weirdness :)
 
@Jolenealaska this was about the processing of the already existing cheese. But you could start from the milk and rennet
only you'll have to start early, because it takes months of ripening
 
I don't think I could get the right funk.
I'm game if it can be done well.
 
I don't know. I've never made matured cheese. I tried paneer once, but squeezed too much moisture out and got a tasteless piece of rubber.
You should ask Sobachatina, he's made his own cheese I think
 
Another thing I should start soon is babysitting and ripening a sourdough starter.
 
Athanasius recently posted a very interesting answer about it
 
10:35 AM
Cindy gave me a rye sourdough recipe that looks good for the project.
 
I almost wanted to start a culture just to see how it works
 
Wow, that's a book. I'll read it.
I'm inclined to just process really good, funky cheese. I do want every ingredient to be awesome, the cheese is the one thing I don't think I can I can make better than I can buy.
Kenji has a dry brined, sous vide corned beef that looks perfect.
And since Reubens need a pickle, that is something else I can do while the sauerkraut is fermenting.
 
10:59 AM
@Jolenealaska Pineapple juice is the key
 
I had just started the answer you mentioned, does he get into pineapple?
 
?
I don't recall mentioning an answer
I think you're confusing me with rumi :)
 
yup
I didn't realize I was talking to both of you :)
Hi @rumtscho :)
I have an excuse, I'm multitasking.
It's been over an hour since I've actually sat at the computer.
 
how are you getting on with your new camera?
 
11:15 AM
Well, rummi pointed out that I should adjust my white balance, and I can't find it. So not yet stellar.
And recent pictures of mayonnaise were very blurry for reasons I don't get.
 
@Jolenealaska it's January. The less light there is in your kitchen, the blurrier the picture will be, because the camera leaves its shutter open for longer, gathering more photons.
 
It's entirely possible that the light level looks similar to your eyes, or that midday only looks twice as bright as late afternoon.
But our eyes accomodate to light levels at an exponential scale
it's very possible that you have a factor of 10 000 in brightness difference between two different times of day in the same spot
and your poor camera is trying to work around that.
also, a tripod is your friend, or any stable surface which can replace it.
 
But I have taken most of my recent shots at night.
With the light above my stove, and 2 overhead lights in my kitchen.
It did come with a little tripod.
 
If most of them weren't blurred, but some were, you can try looking into a) getting it at the exact same spot, b) tripod, and c) see what it's focusing on
you probably can press something until it's focused, and only afterwards press something else (or the same button a second time) to take the actual picture
 
11:22 AM
Within a few days I'll have a better set up. At least a "stage" better looking than my electric burners and the settings set well and the tripod in use.
 
and it will usually have some indication in the viewfinder of what is in focus
 
Yeah, all that happens.
 
a small box which turns green when the focus is found
if it happens to focus on the burner behind the mayonnaise, the mayonnaise will be blurry
 
You half press the button, and it focuses,Press it all the way and it takes the shot.
 
yes, and if you manage to jerk it a bit between the two, it will make a blurry picture :(
in fact, your previous shooting experience helps a lot
for handheld photography, the way of steadying a camera and a rifle is the same
at least that's what I've been told, I have never fired a gun or rifle
 
11:25 AM
Hmm...I hadn't thought of that.
I'll try to access that.
 
supporting your elbow is always great - you do it on your hip if there isn't another surface available
 
And I'll tell you...shooting without support is much harder. I'll break out the tripod.
 
a tripod is by far the best way
 
and there was a way to sync your breathing to the shot
 
That part I know well :)
 
11:29 AM
@ElendilTheTall yes, absolutely. But it's not a bad thing to support the triggering hand for long exposures. And to generally try to push the button in a way that the camera is not jerked, even though it's on a tripod.
It's moot if you use a remote trigger, but Jolene doesn't have one.
 
Use the self timer
 
that it has
 
Press, move your hand away, camera does the rest
 
she's a good shooter, it may be that it's easier for her without the timer
 
meh
the timer isn't hard
and it gives results first time, every time
 
11:31 AM
also, the initial press might still slightly displace the camera, and if it was perfectly focused on something before the rest, and doesn't track the focus, it will be blurry on self timer too
 
not on a small sensor like Jojo's, the DoF will be pretty big
any minor nudge will still be within it
 
good point
but we have been telling her to get closer to her subject. Maybe she'll have to try shooting from a bit farther away and cropping, in order to avoid dof problems
 
Just thinking about it like that will help. I can see a dozen ways I can improve my point and shoot photography by thinking of it like target shooting.
dof?
depth of field?
 
@Jolenealaska Depth of field. For various reasons of optics and geometry, only a small slice of the 3d space in front of your camera is in focus
and there are many things which determine how thick this slice will be. Distance between camera and subject is one of them
so imagine that you have a 30 cm thick in-focus-slice of space
 
what camera is it again, jojo?
 
11:35 AM
your camera focuses on the surface of the mayo in your bowl, but the 15 cm before it and the 15 behind it are also still in focus
 
in this situation, if you misplace the camera by 2 mm during pressing the button, if the in-focus-slice is moved by, say, 5 cm, then the mayo surface is still in focus, as well as the space 20 cm behind it and 10 cm before it
but if your slice (field) is only 3 cm thick (deep), then a misplaced camera can mean that the focused part starts 2cm below the mayo surface after the camera is slightly misplaced
if you move your camera farther away from the subject, your field becomes deeper (when all other factors are kept the same), and so an accidental displacement has less chance of resulting in a picture where your subject is out of focus
but moving the camera away has other effects too, so it's not the first thing to change when your pictures are blurry
 
I'm making cookies tonight. Tomorrow I'll make pictures of cookies the project for the day.
I need to make my settings right. For one thing, the shots are too big (as far as memory) to upload them. I also need to find the damn white balance and place the tripod.
 
Take the shots big - resize them on the computer
 
The editing software my 'puter defaults to is a pay program. What freebie do you recommend?
 
11:52 AM
good question. The ones I use assume that the user knows the theory of image manipulation. I don't know if there are any decent ones with an easy interface.
 
I've been pulling up the picture...taking a screenshot of it...and uploading the screenshot <hangs head>
 
It depends on what you want to do. If you only want to crop and similar, Irfan View is great
 
@Jolenealaska OMFG
 
but it won't let you mess with colors
 
I'd go with GIMP - it looks complicated, but for resizing and the like it's easy (I can talk you through it) and you can also tweak sharpness and so on.
 
11:53 AM
I don't think I need to mess with colors at this point.
 
Indeed. GIMP has a learning curve, but once you know it, it's easy to use
and I mean you need to just learn where to find cropping tools and similar. You won't need to learn theory for it
 
and the good thing is, if you want to one day learn how to do complicated stuff, GIMP has the instruments on board for it
 
I'll download it.
 
so will I, then I can hold your wickle hand
 
11:58 AM
I'll pull up a manual for the camera and set up a stage during the day tomorrow, tomorrow night I'll pick your brains if you're here.
:)
 
Manual schmanual
it's 4 clicks
:D
 
The camera manual
lots of menus
 
@Jolenealaska I have not-so-great news there
 
I already looked into your manual
 
11:59 AM
yes?
 
and it seems the White balance setting is not available if you shoot in auto mode
 
pfff, auto mode
just use Av
set an aperture of f4 and fuhgeddaboutit
 
If you can learn to shoot in semi automatic, it is available
 
if you're using a tripod the shutter speed doesn't matter
 
12:00 PM
that would explain why I can't find it!
 
but I don't know if you will feel comfortable with it, when you are learning GIMP and composition and physical shooting technique at the same time
I mean, it's not hard to learn, but if you just want some damn pictures without going through half a photography course, it may not be worth it
 
Well, it doesn't all have to happen in a night.
All I need from gimp right away is to crop and to bring the memory size down to where I can upload the pictures. I can't imagine that being much to learn.
I'm clueless, but I'm educable.
 
These two are not hard. I like GIMP's cropping interface. You select the size you want to crop, and if it doesn't look right, you can adjust it or move it around before you commit to the crop. And then you can also do image resizing, or get the Save for web plugin and export it with it.
 
That's all I would use it for until I get comfy with the camera.
Little by little...by the time I'm taking pictures for this year's Mezzetta contest, I'll be able to take nice shots.
I'm going to do my mise en place for my cookies (la di da) and dig out my mixer. Back in a minute.
 
12:23 PM
@ElendilTheTall Do you have a trick for me when Firefox decides to not reload the CSS on Ctrl F5?
I've been battling it all day
the first time I reconstructed almost all of the page in a fiddle because I thought that my change isn't working, I didn't realize that it's just not getting loaded
I'm seriously pissed
 
12:36 PM
@rumtscho hmmm
and it's only a problem in firefox?
 
yes
I even cleared the whole cache manually
 
any console messages?
F12
 
none that I see
you don't have to go through a full troubleshooting with me. I just hoped that you might know some trick.
 
Nothing else to do :)
is the site online?
 
no, localhost
 
12:42 PM
can you pastebin your CSS for me?
 
@ElendilTheTall I guess I could, but do you think it could be something inside the CSS?
 
@rumtscho possibly, it's worth checking - if there's a typo, Firefox will stop loading the CSS at that point
I can't see anything wrong
 
@ElendilTheTall oh, this is a good thing to know.
 
I wonder if the 'calc' entries are causing problems - try just setting explicit widths in those and see if it loads then
 
I've had the calcs in there for ages
calc removing doesn't help
 
12:52 PM
hmmm
hmm hmm hmm hmm hmmmm
 
I'm getting unhappy with the new Firefox
since I updated it at home, I've had many pages display a "you're a using an old Firefox, why don't you upgrade"
 
have you cleared the cache? I know you're doing a complete refresh, but it's worth trying
 
and one of them, StackEdit, completely refused working until I "upgrade" my browser
@ElendilTheTall yes, cleared it
so, I guess the part about thinking that the newest browser is too old is the fault of the site owners and not of the browser
maybe back at version 10, they built in a check which said "if version number between 7 and 35" because they couldn't believe 35 will come along only 3 years later
but this CSS thing seems to be the browser's fault
 
it's very odd
could you try uploading it and viewing it online?
 
no, it's an ASP .NET application
and besides, my employer wouldn't appreciate a significant amount of our code landing on some server
 
12:56 PM
ah
 
we don't use free services like Google around here
 
@rumtscho Stackedit works for me on FF 35. And I have never seen any message like the one you mentioned.
Have you tried a new profile?
 
Goodness, it has taken all this time just to get my stuff together and ingredients measured for cookies. It's a good thing I don't do this for a living anymore!
 
1:15 PM
@ElendilTheTall you know, you might have been on the right track
I'm starting to suspect there might be an error in my other CSS file
I have one CSS which is common to all pages
and then a separate for each type of page, I only posted you the separate one
Now the IE is also not reloading
but when I just deleted all the contents of the general CSS file, it started reloading
 
1:26 PM
ah
@rumtscho paste that one by all means
unless it's a glaringly obvious typo
 
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