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Adi
11:13 AM
@JourneymanGeek What happened?
 
11:33 AM
@Adi I think that was a response, not a request
Damn UDP, makes it impossible to tell
 
@AviD I DON'T GIVE A CRAP ABOUT JUMPSTYLE
 
@Simon then why do you keep linking us that crap?
 
@RоryMcCune That's cute.
@AviD I NEVER EVER LINKED ANY JUMPSTYLE HERE
Except maybe 1 track.
 
@Rhino Should I tell him that I'll be doing some PHP this morning?
 
11:36 AM
damn wish I had some spare cash for toys right now
 
I bought the 850 Evo 256 gb for 150 on Christmas, this is a very good price.
 
HS, HS, HS.
Next?
 
Erm, Progressive House and I was laughing at that track.
 
11:39 AM
@Simon meh, I never click on them anymore, I just assume its all the same
 
I hope you clicked on the amazing Techno track that I linked last night.
 
should I keep going, or have I proven my point?
@Simon unlikely.
2 reasons:
1. you linked it
2. you said its techno
 
You don't even know what Techno is.
To you, it's all the same.
 
@AviD jumpstyle and hardstyle aren't the same thing, geez grandad get with the program! :op
 
11:41 AM
wadafuk is dat
 
@RoryAlsop do you remember their "infamous" performance of that on "The word"?
 
@RоryMcCune I'm afraid so :-/
That Bosstones one is epic - haven't heard it for ages
 
@RoryAlsop see and now I'm reminded of it.. 2nd only to Olly reids performance on that show for late night musical weirdness
 
11:44 AM
@Simon it IS all the same.
 
pls ovid
 
@RоryMcCune uhh wait
that sounds racist
 
Don't be the ultimate donut.
 
@AviD fogey
 
what you said
@RоryMcCune Can I wear Kyle?
 
11:45 AM
As racist as denying a chocolate donut.
 
@AviD hey hey no linking that stuff during the working day!
 
can always count on at least one person here (the orck god, natch) to post decent music
heh. thats supposed to be "rock god", but I supppose it still works.
@RоryMcCune heh, not
 
@RoryAlsop oh damn now that is good music
@Simon take note, you could actually hear the notes and the tune
 
zzz
 
11:51 AM
the problem with even the best tracks of HS/JS/TS/*S - is that its like a kale smoothie. There might be some decent bits in there, but at its best its all mixed up and smushed together. No individual flavors to complement each other. And then its all drenched in goddam kale.
 
What the fluffy fluff is TS?
I've censored myself.
 
@Simon hehehe
I don't know! I thought its all the same crap, I can't tell them apart!
 
@AviD I thought for a moment you were talking about JavaScript and TypeScript and was wondering what HS was...
 
heheh
technocrap
though wouldnt TS default to Taylor Swift?
 
No.
 
12:05 PM
Because Taylor Swift can sing. I know because the Foo Fighters told me to listen to her
 
wat
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Q: Is "curl -u username:password http://example.com" secure?

jdimatteoIs curl -u username:password http://example.com secure? If not, can you give a brief explanation of how someone could obtain your password?

Doesn't this belong to us?
 
12:18 PM
@RоryMcCune I tried to add the donut unicode at the end of my name but SE doesn't accept unicode in names :(
 
12:30 PM
@Simon sudo curl -u username:password http://example.com | bash is better :)
 
No, donuts are better.
 
BTW, why do you ask? you think it does not belong to superuser?
@Simon "is better" is a transitive relation
 
@M'vy Well, the main question is if displaying your credentials in a specific command is secure, which I believe might belong to us.
 
Yes, but you don't migrate question because they belong to another stack, but because they don't belong to the current one
 
can we migrate @Simon to somewhere?
 
12:33 PM
@AviD does it belong here?
 
@M'vy Well, if they are best suited to another SE, why not move it there?
 
@Adi it was a response to the people who owned security.se being attached to it
 
yeah, "belong" isnt really an ownership thing with regards to SE questions.
 
@AviD: Don't migrate crap? ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek ha!
 
12:34 PM
@JourneymanGeek pwnd
 
You tend to migrate 1) good questions 2) that are sadly off topic 3) to a site that's a better home
 
"This question belongs on another site in the Stack Exchange network"
That is a flag option and it does use the exact term "belongs".
 
Yeah but it's a sub-part of "off-topic"
 
Yes I get that but Super User usually is about how to do something or how to use a command to do X thing. That question is specifically about the security of a command.
 
@Simon but its not in the meaning of "ownership", its in the meaning of "you dont belong here"
 
12:36 PM
Which makes me believe that it does belong to us.
 
you know what I'm talking about.
 
Now my back hurts. See what you guys are doing to me?
 
hey I would agree that SU is not a good place for it, but (a) I'm not an SU mod, and (b) they actually got a decent answer.
 
@Simon a question can be valid in multiple stacks.
 
@M'vy Yes but once again, it is specifically about the security of a command.
Therefore, I believe that it should have had been asked here.
Did I really use "Should have had been asked"?
And it actually works? Wow.
 
12:38 PM
OP choose to ask on SU where it seems on-topic to me. Therefore, I would not vote to close it / migrate
But yeah, he could have asked here
BTW on the don't migrate "crap" question, they could implement a migration review queue, where you validate migration into your stack.
Or reject it with reason
 
12:54 PM
(also as a mod, I'm disinclined to move questions unless they are utterly awesome, off topic and/or the person who asked the question)
@M'vy: I'm pretty sure the migration review queue has been suggested
 
@JourneymanGeek You suck.
 
The preferred thing to do is to reject
@Simon: Don't forget I have a binding vote
 
1:06 PM
There's a whole tumblr dedicated to curl|bash 'ing
 
@RоryMcCune I bet you just luuuuuuuuuuurrrve that site, huh
 
@AviD s/l*/find it (depressing|annoying|amusing) that there's enough material for it/
 
:)
 
ah ah that regex doesnt match anything
 
sure it does
 
1:12 PM
18 secs ago, by AviD
ah ah that regex doesnt match anything
heehee you gonn' timeout afore me
 
@AviD yeah it does
 
dammit!
 
> What is worse than a "curl | sh"? "curl | php" of course!
 
REGEEEEEEEKAAAAHHNEEEXXXXX
 
pls
I'm doing crypto in PHP right now, nothing can go wrong, right?
 
1:13 PM
wait, doesnt l* just match any number of l's?
1 min ago, by AviD
ah ah that regex doesnt match anything
heh, I made @RоryMcCune go look that up on his regex cheat sheet
 
@AviD phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhbt
 
and the answer will be, of course, "well it depends which regex syntax you're using"
@RоryMcCune you know I'm right
 
* is the previous group/char 0 to n times
 
@M'vy right, thats what I thought
 
H* is any number of 'H' from '' to 'H......H'
+ is 1 to n
{m,n} is m to n
 
1:15 PM
so his regex will match the "l", but not the rest of the word, leaving gibberish. syntax error.
 
? 0 or 1
 
OMG, is that what happened to @Simon?? Broken regex replacement??
 
leaving nothing, cause no match
 
wat
 
s/\w*/pls/
 
1:16 PM
...well, leaving it unchanged
 
Yes @AviD, I was meant to be Simone
 
@Simon not your name, silly, just everything you say
 
1:39 PM
@RоryMcCune it's not often one tears an app to shreds so hard, that it is necessary to put down not one, but two separate findings on arbitrary code execution.
necessary, since they are so completely different in all aspects except the result.
though I usually prefer merging findings, where possible
 
@AviD oh dear, somone's devs will be having a bad day. My current one ain't too bad but them changing the way the app. works right in the middle of testing isn't making me smile
one for the caveats section of the report
 
oy, hate that
well my first finding is basically "GET OFF THIS PLATFORM ASAP"
it's that damn 4GL
I would write up all that I learned, maybe even give a talk on it - well I would if anyone gave a damn. it is soooo not cool .
 
@AviD sounds like material for a blog post!
 
that nobody would want to read
 
@AviD You are no longer allowed to say, type, moan (ew) or even think about the word "4GL" from now on.
 
1:45 PM
@Simon not done yet :-(
but thanks for trying
 
2:13 PM
This hardstyle mix I'm listening to has a "let it go" track!
 
wat
 
2014
That's your first mistake.
Oh and what the actual fuck.
I haven't listened to the new stuff because the scene is super flat these days.
And it sucks.
 
2:50 PM
@Simon While I have heard of various 'scenes' over the years having infighting, implosion and destruction, I don't think I have ever seen a scene. I have certainly never been part of one. The whole idea baffles me
 
@RoryAlsop It sounds flat :p
 
lol
I may just have been in the wrong places, or blissfully unaware, but it actually is alien to me
 
 
3 hours later…
5:56 PM
@Simon Way to go, you killed chat.
 
I DIDN'T THIS TIME
it wuz rorie
 
@Simon do they have superfood in Canaduh?
 
supawat
 
we have supper food: roast, potatoes, carrots
 
5:59 PM
Never seen that here.
 
Consistency: sludge, Texture: sludge, Taste: heaven
 
It looks tasty!
NOT
 
It looks revolting, but it's intensely delicious.
That 15oz bottle has: 1 3/4 apples, 4/5 peach, 1/4 mango, 3 1/2 strawberries, 1/6 banana, and 55mg of kale
 
Yeah, even since I've seen the picture, I'm revolted.
 
It's a life-altering experience.
 
6:00 PM
Just like @AviD's mom.
 
Odwalla is not common here, but you can get it at specialty stores
 
I just learned that Odwalla makes nutrition bars. Ima have to hunt me down some of those.
They look slightly less revolting.
 
Ew.
It looks like you're eating a chunk of grass.
 
@DavidFreitag Ingesting polonium is also life-altering.
 
@ThomasPornin I bet it is. I think I'll stick with my fruity sludge concoction though.
So I'm going to be cross compiling mono and coreclr for arm.
@Simon I'd be willing to bet it's <30% kale
 
6:29 PM
@DavidFreitag Oh yeah? Wanna bet your scholarship?
 
@Simon Scholarship? What scholarship...
 
Doesn't your job pay for your tuition fee? That's almost equivalent.
 
No, that's more like a grant.
And at $1500/semester it's not a very large one.
 
o
 
7:29 PM
@DavidFreitag wtf with 1500 usd you can pay for a whole year here including books
 
@LucasKauffman Not here, that's barely even enough for one class at a university, let alone books. It's about enough for one semester from the college I just graduated from, though.
In total, not including room and board or books, it would cost me $36k per year for tuition.
 
just saw some data, the students graduating now from typical universities have around 350K USD in debt.
 
thats enough to buy a house
 
Yup, that sounds about right
But usually if you're intelligent you search around for all of the grants/scholarships you can find and you can usually slim that to about $100k, unless you're in med school
 
8:21 PM
@DavidFreitag that's very much not right, really....
 
@RоryMcCune Hmm?
 
student debt in the US is nuts
older generations (AFAIK) didn't have that kind of burden
and now they aren't paying up so that the current generation gets the same start they had
not really very fair, in the UK it's not quite as bad as that, but still not good
 
tuitions have skyrocketed
it's insane
 
The worst part is that there is no hard and fast guarantee that you will get a high paying job, unless you are in the medical field.
 
the Federal Student Loan program made it possible for everyone to go to university, but all that available cash pushed schools to raise prices
 
8:26 PM
 
It sucks because there isn't really anything I can do about it.
 
my theory is that tuitions have gone up so much precisely because the degree and education are worth substantially less. The entrenched establishment of course want to preserve their position, so they raise tuition to create an aura of scarcity and perceived worth.
 
yeah one of the (many) problems is that jobs that don't really need people to have degrees now use them as a basic filter
 
then the competition for student dollars changed the educational system from pure education to "attractive features"
 
same principle as instagram, the 19 billion for whatsapp, and facebook in general.
 
8:27 PM
I'd like to be able to go to finland or germany for university, but I don't really see that happening.
 
9:00 PM
@DavidFreitag why not?
 
@LucasKauffman Money
 
@DavidFreitag how much do you pay now a year?
 
And aside from that, I just signed a 12 month lease for my apartment.
@LucasKauffman Nothing, all my tuition up until today has been paid by the company I work for.
 
@DavidFreitag I mean in germany you can rent a room for 300 EUR a month, tution is significantly less
aaah
 
They have been paying ~$3400 per year
I have just about that much in my savings account right now, and a plane ticket to Germany would cost about $700-900
Not to mention getting a passport, shipping all of my belongings (including my car) and any visa-related fees.
 
9:05 PM
Not to mention having to live in Germany, after all that.
 
I feel like living in Germany would be pretty awesome.
Especially because I don't speak a word of German
 
9:26 PM
@David - that superfood stuff. I disagree with your last point. It also tastes like sludge! :-)
 
@RoryAlsop That's unfortunate, have you tried the mango one? It's much less sludge-like.
 
I have tried many, as my wife uses them. She hates the taste but suffers for her fitness.
I just accept fitness is not worth that bad a taste
 
Really? I can't see it... I find it absolutely delicious.
 
Bacon is delicious
 
Bacon and superfood is delicious
Are you sure you aren't talking about this stuff?
Because that stuff is vile ^
 
9:53 PM
@DavidFreitag you should fill, like, a test tube with it. or a vial.
you should also keep track of all the tubes you fill with that stuff. write it down in a document on your computer.
then you would have a vile vial file.
especially if you make a pile of them.
damn, that's practically Dr. Seuss right there.
 
@AviD Apart from the issue that those vile vials are filled with a vile substance named "Naked".
 
you should make a really big pile. say, about 1.6 kilometers.
you would have a vile vial mile pile file.
this is really making me nauseous. I will try to vomit in the row between the chairs.
or maybe I'm just fooling you all.
 
Mono takes an absolute eternity to build.
 
Now, we can discuss the vile vial mile pile file aisle bile guile.
ohhh can't believe we missed out on doing this whole thing in Egypt. Yknow, like on the riverbank?
okay I'm done. I could keep going but I got bored.
besides, I wouldnt want to rile you up.
 
10:01 PM
you'd get so upset you might smash a tile.
@DavidFreitag cmon! that was a good one!
 
@AviD Not my style.
 
Dr.S is jealous!
nor mine. but you just wait till @RоryMcCune gets here.
 
@AviD I was wondering if he stole your keyboard
 
@DavidFreitag no, I was filling in WHILE he is gone
oh cmon, @DavidFreitag! Smile!
 
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