The DMZ

Ohnana

2:01 PM

i timecard every week

have a little reminder that goes "HEY DUMBARSE GET PAID"

David Freitag

@Ohnana I have that too, it's the accountant lady sending me an email every other monday morning

Ohnana

lawl

Simon

@Ohnana Me too. The first thing I do every Monday morning is to fill the damn sheet. If I don't, then I feel bad.

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag I miss overtime. The last time I got any was 2003. This sucked in 2009/2010 when I was working 70+ hours overtime a week and not getting paid

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop Yes, I work until 4am on some days, it's great fun :]

Rory Alsop

2:05 PM

And the requirement now is to work whatever is needed - overtime is not given above a certain grade

Simon

Not getting paid for your overtime? I'd tell anyone to suck my nob if they wanted me to do that.

Fucking greedy donuts.

Terry Chia

Yeah, but @RoryAlsop is HR manager so his job is basically reading resumes and firing people.

David Freitag

@Simon did you get a chance to watch any of the Ultra live stream?

Simon

@DavidFreitag Nah, I didn't care for most of the acts that were there.

Terry Chia

I think to clear up confusion we should just rename TLS 1.2 to SSL 4.0.

Tweeted by SwiftOnSecurity on March 30, 2015 at 2:00 PM

Rory Alsop

2:08 PM

@Simon nah - above a certain pay grade, nobody gets overtime in enterprisescale orgs

David Freitag

@Simon Tiesto was awesome, Afrojack was pretty good, Armin van Buuren was awesome both times, Skrillex was a joke, David Guetta was pretty awesome, other than that it was crap.

Rory Alsop

the package is for doing the job correctly

Simon

@RoryAlsop Oh that's a whole other thing then.

Rory Alsop

not for attendance hours

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop That's because your hourly rate is obnoxiously high

Simon

2:09 PM

@DavidFreitag Tiesto is not who he used to be, Afrojack sucks, Armin 4 lyf3, Skrillex I respect the dude, David Guetta I'd punch him in the face.

David Freitag

@Simon Lol, why with the Afrojack hate? Also the David Guetta hate?? Why?

Simon

@DavidFreitag They're both 2 mainstream untalented pricks.

David Freitag

Have you ever heard Skrillex talk? He sounds like a 12 year old

@Simon I dunno his set was pretty great

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag Depends how much I work. It can be lower than a Starbucks employee

Simon

@DavidFreitag He still came up with his own thing, which is why I respect him a lot.

David Freitag

2:11 PM

@Simon But his set was so awful I had to turn it off. I didn't even do that with the no names.

Rory Alsop

@Simon but it is just one thing, though. Over and over again. And unfortunately it is a loud annoying unmusical thing.

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop Your hourly rate changes?

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag no - my number of hours changes, but I just get the same annual salary

Simon

@DavidFreitag Yeah, I don't enjoy most of his tracks too, but I still can recognize what he's done.

Rory Alsop

so I could make my hourly rate be whatever, just by working more or less hours

David Freitag

2:12 PM

I have never understood the "mainstream" problem. If it's good it's good...

Simon

@RoryAlsop Meh, there are only a few Dubstep tracks that I enjoy, yeah...

Rory Alsop

@Simon lol :-)

David Freitag

@Simon I like his tracks, but I was not enjoying him live.

Rory Alsop

"It's all about the hardstyle" #Simon

Ohnana

shoutout to the simple english wikipedia pages.

Rory Alsop

2:13 PM

Bad English

Bad English was an American/British hard rock supergroup formed in 1987, reuniting keyboardist Jonathan Cain from Journey with singer John Waite and bassist Ricky Phillips, his former bandmates in The Babys. == History == The members decided on a name for the band while playing pool. John Waite missed a shot and Jonathan Cain made a comment on how bad his "english" was (referring to the spin a player puts on the cue ball) and the band decided to use the phrase. The name is also thought to be a reference to The Babys, since the name was misspelled and an example of bad English. Jonathan Cain and...

oh, wrong band, sorry

Simon

@DavidFreitag Progressive House these days requires no talent, producing original beats is not what the crowd wants.

Rory Alsop

:-)

Ohnana

@RoryAlsop lawl. i meant the simple english translation

David Freitag

Also, I don't care that Tiesto changed, his set was orgasmic.

Ohnana

Categorical imperative

The categorical imperative is an idea that the philosopher Immanuel Kant had about ethics. Kant said that an "imperative" is something that a person must do. For example: if a person wants to stop being thirsty, it is imperative that they have a drink. Kant said an imperative is "categorical," when it is true at all times, and in all situations. The example of a thirsty person Kant named the Hypothetical Imperative. Kant used the hypothetical imperative to explain his ideas about the ethics of a categorical imperative. For example, it is not usually a moral choice when a person decides to drink...

Terry Chia

2:14 PM

@DavidFreitag @Simon is a #hipster.

Ohnana

hard topic, easy language so I can actually understand that shit

Simon

@RoryAlsop I'm into more than one style, you know :p

3

Terry Chia

@Simon THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!

Simon

ffs

David Freitag

@TerryChia Yes but it's not only @Simon, pretty much everyone I know says "eww that's too mainstream" and all I want to do is rage face and tear their arms off like a wookie

Terry Chia

2:15 PM

@DavidFreitag We are all hipsters in arms.

David Freitag

@TerryChia Not if I tear all of your arms off

Simon

@DavidFreitag I enjoyed House for a total of 2 months, until I realized I pretty much had listened to everything that was somewhat original. Everything else was more of less the same build-up, melody, etc.

Terry Chia

Also, I like Taylor Swift / @Flyk. That's about as mainstream as music gets.

David Freitag

@Simon I guess having the memory of a goldfish helps.

Ohnana

sing by ed sheeran is okay

Simon

2:16 PM

@DavidFreitag When I say "mainstream", it means it lacks originality to me.

David Freitag

@TerryChia Of the few bits of Saylor Twift that I have hear I moderately enjoyed.

@Simon Why does everything have to be something completely new?

Simon

@DavidFreitag Because otherwise it makes me feel like I'm listening to the same track over and over again.

David Freitag

I don't think I have ever felt that.

Simon

@DavidFreitag Let me show you something amazing.

TJR & VINAI - Bounce Generation (Original Mix)

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DVBBS & VINAI - Raveology (Official Video)

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Here is the same track, released twice under a different name.

Go listen to it, I kid you not. It's the same god damn track.

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop yeah pen. testing is probably the highest end place I've seen overtime paid and that's only where there's a specific client requirement for out-of-hours / weekend work

Simon

2:20 PM

And that is why I hate nowadays Progressive House, it's about money, not creativity.

Flyk

@Simon er...

Simon

@Flyk Did you read the rest or?

Flyk

no

Rоry McCune

@Simon but what about the time when it actually was Lupus! that was awesome

Simon

@RоryMcCune wat

David Freitag

2:21 PM

@Simon Well there's your problem, the original was crap.

Rоry McCune

@Simon I was just saying I found House to be enjoyable for more than 2 months

David Freitag

lul

Simon

@RоryMcCune You donut.

Rоry McCune

@Simon IThankYou

David Freitag

Don't you know @Rоry, It's never Lupus.

Simon

2:23 PM

@DavidFreitag Oh it absolutely is a god damn piece of crap.

And it was released twice, how amazing.

Rоry McCune

@DavidFreitag except for that one time it was

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune Yes, yes, except for that one time.

Wow, this is the first Monstercat song I have found unbearable to listen to.

Flyk

I'm really bored

Rоry McCune

2:26 PM

@Flyk well it's not lupus

@Flyk Play pillars of Eternity

Flyk

what's that

David Freitag

Or you could play Bloodborne.

Rоry McCune

@Flyk eternity.obsidian.net

Flyk

@RоryMcCune /sigh

Rоry McCune

@Flyk wat?

currently the highest scoring new release on metacritic

Flyk

2:29 PM

I could have googled it myself

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune It's really too bad that I don't enjoy that type of game.

Rоry McCune

@Flyk ok it's a RPG in the mode of Baldurs gate (written by the same people who did a lot of the infinity engine games back in the day)

lots of storytelling puzzling kind of stuff

David Freitag

@Flyk Plague Inc: Evolved is on sale on steam.

Rоry McCune

and good characterization

Flyk

@DavidFreitag yeah because I haven't played that to death yet

David Freitag

2:31 PM

hehehe

It sucks that Bloodborne is PS4 only.

Rory Alsop

Ooh - I got a PS4 from a mate

Might need to get that

David Freitag

It's great fun

twitch.tv/cohhcarnage

Rory Alsop

So far it's much more annoying than the PS3, but I do like the graphics

David Freitag

Should be streaming Bloodborne still

Yep, he is

Rory Alsop

You need to use plex to play films from your media server, so I still have the PS3 connected as my video machine

Ah, I'm at work so no streaming anything

David Freitag

2:38 PM

Heh, me too. Except for music.

Simon

@DavidFreitag Do you live rave beats?

David Freitag

@Simon I have no idea.

Simon

@DavidFreitag If you wanna give it a try: youtube.com/watch?v=dg4lp7jFQxg

David Freitag

You should know by now that asking me genre-related questions is a dumb idea.

Simon

pls

It's not a genre, more like an atmosphere.

David Freitag

2:44 PM

@Terry So I'm working on a SBC with a 1GHz dual core Cortex-A7, 512MB of ram, 1GB+ NAND, Gigabit ethernet, HDMI, 802.11 b/g/n, GPS, and an M.2 slot.

@Simon Eh, it's kinda boring. Guess I'm not in the mood for it. I'm also apparently not in the mood for Monstercat either.

Simon

o

David Freitag

Might see if I can find Tiesto's set from Saturday night

Actually, Tiesto fucked up. For like 10 seconds the whole stage went quiet

He was like "Woops"

Simon

I'd much rather witness a fuck up than noticing it's a pre-recorded set.

David Freitag

Yup

It wasn't that bad, the crowd went nuts though

Simon

They complained?

David Freitag

2:50 PM

No the started cheering loudly. They didn't have enough time to complain.

Simon

Ahhhh, nice.

Flyk

fine, I bought it

new game to play/get bored of

Rоry McCune

@Flyk what?

Simon

You're a game.

Flyk

€40 for 6 hours of not-bored seems like the going rate

Rоry McCune

2:52 PM

@Flyk which game did you buy?

Flyk

that thing you were talking about

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune Which game do you think?

Rоry McCune

@Flyk pillars of eternity

@DavidFreitag well you mentioned bloodbourne so it could have been that

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune True, but wouldn't you need to go to a store to get a PS4 game?

Flyk

@DavidFreitag pressing stop on the wrong track happens from time to time

Rоry McCune

2:54 PM

@DavidFreitag can you not download those things these days

David Freitag

Oh, yes. This is just as good as I remembered it was.

@RоryMcCune shrug, I don't have a PS4

Rоry McCune

@DavidFreitag me neither, I assumed all games were downloadable these days

but then I wouldn't know outside of PC land

Flyk

@DavidFreitag has a NES, yes - you still need physical game cartridges for the NES. I don't think that will ever change.

David Freitag

@Flyk retrousb.com/product_info.php?products_id=34 cough

Rоry McCune

@Flyk one downside is that unfort. as you didn't pre-order I don't think you can get the miniature giant space piglet

Flyk

2:56 PM

@DavidFreitag whatever

@RоryMcCune that's fine, I've been told I can set people on fire

David Freitag

The one I have is better, but it's the same concept.

My controllers are also wireless.

Rоry McCune

@Flyk oh yeah that can definitely happen... including to your party members if you're not careful..

Flyk

@DavidFreitag if only you had put that much effort into getting a girlfriend

@RоryMcCune if they're not careful.

Rоry McCune

@Flyk that is the other perspective, yes

Flyk

I'm the person setting fire to people, my perspective is the only one that matters.

David Freitag

2:58 PM

@Flyk Trust me I do now. I've been going to the gym daily and I stopped drinking or eating anything that I deemed even remotely bad for me. I had an apple and a glass of orange juice for breakfast this morning.

Flyk

@DavidFreitag that sounds more like "looking after yourself" and less about "getting a girlfriend"

David Freitag

@Flyk Yes well the latter starts with the former.

Flyk

that's not necessarily true

David Freitag

No, not necessarily, but it helps quite a lot.

A friend of mine is trying to fix me up with this girl. He told me she thinks I'm cute, but she wishes I lost a little weight. I nearly flew out of my chair to the gym.

Iszi

@DavidFreitag Yeah, I think the only time a gal doesn't really mind a guy having a few extra pounds is if they're in his bank account. #EuropeanJoke

Ohnana

3:04 PM

@DavidFreitag jesus fucking christ

David Freitag

@Ohnana Wat?

Ohnana

imma be harsh with you, but you should run the fuck away

run away. right now. the fact that yu have to change your appearence to make yourself acceptable to her is a very bad sign

Simon

@DavidFreitag Tell her to suck your nob.

Iszi

@Ohnana Are you trying to say Jesus is fucking himself, or some Mexican dude is giving the Son of God some bro-love?

Ohnana

@Iszi man, i wish i could pull up the jesus fucking christ pic. it's the first one :P

David Freitag

3:06 PM

@Ohnana Nah, I'll take what I can get. So she's shallow? I'm the same way. I wouldn't be willing to bend over backwards if she didn't look the way she did.

And if she's the inspiration it's going to take to get me off my ass, all the better.

Ohnana

@DavidFreitag "i'll take what I can get" what the fuck are you, stupid? you deserve someone who cares about you because you're you. what the fuck you gonna do with her if you suddenly become disfigured? or you get old? or she decides she doesn't like another part of you?

@DavidFreitag okay, that's a little better.

David Freitag

@Ohnana Well personally I don't see how anyone thinks I'm "cute", so the fact that those words came from her mouth is seriously impressive.

Iszi

@DavidFreitag I think @Ohnana is jealous. Whether that's jealous because you've got a shot at something and they don't, or jealous that the something you're taking a shot at isn't them, I'm not sure.

David Freitag

You know, not to be super self deprecating. I'm just not a good looking guy.

Ohnana

@Iszi i have a partner

Iszi

3:10 PM

@Ohnana That doesn't mean you don't wish your partner was @DavidFreitag.

David Freitag

@Iszi Even if it does end terribly, I still look forward to the experience.

Ohnana

@Iszi you best be trollin

Rоry McCune

@DavidFreitag good attitude to have

David Freitag

@Ohnana Ouch

Iszi

@DavidFreitag Spoken like a true male homo sapiens.

Ohnana

3:11 PM

@DavidFreitag just watch your ass, okay? sorry, i get really worked up about red flags in relationships. way too many people around me have gotten sucked into abusive and toxic relationships

David Freitag

@Iszi There's no way it could be 100% terrible. I know there will be great times, and even if there is only one good moment, that will be enough for me.

Rоry McCune

@DavidFreitag given that AFAIK @Ohnana has never seen you or a picture of you, I don't think the trolling comment was suggestive of an insult :o)

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune Hehe, I know I was kidding :d

Ohnana

@RоryMcCune yeah basically. I'm happy in my relationship

David Freitag

That ^

lol, I always enjoy seeing things like this in a code file:

> /* uhhggg... */

Ohnana

3:16 PM

best one i've seen is:

> # MOTHER FUCKER I HATE THIS

David Freitag

lol, that one is pretty good, where was that? In some PHP file somewhere?

Ohnana

in house pythoon

i lol'd

Simon

@Iszi pls

David Freitag

@Ohnana What could possibly be happening that would produce such a reaction...

@Simon youtube.com/…

Ohnana

@DavidFreitag it was a script to interface with a piece of shit

not a literal piece of shit, but it came close

David Freitag

3:24 PM

@Ohnana Ah, so the programmer had to physically reach into the toilet bowl. I see.

Ohnana

@DavidFreitag damn near

David Freitag

@Simon that entire set is great, but there's the bit where the music stopped

David Freitag

3:37 PM

@Simon He also plays some oldschool stuff like Adagio..

Simon

@DavidFreitag Cool, I'll give it a try in a few.

David Freitag

@Simon Also some pirates of the caribbean, lul

Simon

The theme song is pretty cool.

David Freitag

Slogging through all the crap during Ultra was worth it just to hear Tiesto

Simon

Fuck I hate MCs.

Most of them are annoying as fuck.

David Freitag

3:48 PM

Tiesto is not nearly as bad as Afrojack

That dude doesn't shut the hell up

Simon

@Flyk Please confirm that he's offbeat here: youtu.be/pyDYtaXSuFk?t=8m23s

David Freitag

@Simon OH Also, Hardwell was great at Ultra too.

Hardwell live at Ultra Music Festival 2015 - FULL HD Broadcast by UMF.TV

►

Can't believe I forgot about him...

Simon

I'm done with those dudes.

David Freitag

Which dudes?

Simon

Pretty much anyone in the dj mag top 100.

David Freitag

3:56 PM

But duuuuuuude it was soo good.

Simon

Of course there are some that I care about, like deadmau5.

Porter Robinson.

David Freitag

@Simon You make an exception for him, but not Hardwell? Tsk Tsk. This is the man that brought the world Spaceman for god's sake!

I've never heard anything by Porter Robinson. Which is funny because everyone I know raves about him.

Simon

@DavidFreitag deadmau5 does his own thing.

And he doesn't feel the need to add typical build-ups and "1 2 3 jump" samples.

David Freitag

Meh, you're missing out.

Hardstyle snob.

Simon

I'm not missing out, since I don't enjoy them.

I'm listening to The M Machine right now, that's far from Hardstyle.

And I love those guys.

David Freitag

4:00 PM

I think you just convinced yourself that you don't like them because they're "too mainstream"

Rоry McCune

BABYLON ZOO ◊ Spaceman (Official Video)

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?

shiiit, that track is 19 years old

David Freitag

Yeah, I think hardwell was only like 5 when that came out...

Simon

@DavidFreitag If that was the case, I wouldn't like Porter Robinson since he's so freaking popular.

David Freitag

@Simon But is popular the same as this "mainstream" everyone is talking about? Because I can't tell.

Simon

Same for deadmau5.

@DavidFreitag It's his beats that are different and that's what matters.

I don't care if the world likes someone, or hates him, as long as I like his beats.

David Freitag

4:03 PM

You should link me some good Porter Robinson, since I've never heard any.

Simon

@DavidFreitag I can guarantee you you've heard this before: youtube.com/watch?v=Vsy1URDYK88

David Freitag

@Simon Nope

Simon

He's a melodic genius.

David Freitag

WAIT

I have heard Spitfire.

That's a damn good song.

raz

4:21 PM

Anyone care for a OnePlus One invite?

David Freitag

@raz I thought you didn't need an invite anymore?

raz

On Tuesdays

shrugs I was just told I had invites. Thought I'd share them if someone wanted one.

David Freitag

Hmm

Weird.

Flyk

@Simon I think we have differing definitions of offbeat. I would call that a clang :p

his mix drifted a bit

you can laugh about it all you want, it happens to everybody at times

better than playing a pre-recorded mix :p

Simon

@Flyk Well yeah, it's not a violent offbeat. I didn't know there was a nuance in wording.

@Flyk That is very true.

Flyk

4:34 PM

in some genres it's more of a joke than others - where all the tracks are the same bpm, it's beat matching 101 type failures to get it wrong

thing is - he knows he's made that mix flawlessly multiple times and could do it at will

Simon

Well, that's pretty much the case for his set.

Flyk

but for some reason at that particular moment it's just not working

normally drug related

Simon

o

David Freitag

Yeah I'm pretty much completely tone deaf and I though that part was a bit wonky too.

Flyk

the only people who noticed are people who care about the technical side of it

everybody else was in the moment and it didn't matter

Simon

4:36 PM

For sure.

Flyk

^ basically sums up life

he did have a bunch of people up there as well, he probably left it until the last minute and then was like "meh just bang this on... oh, that's not quite in time!"

tbh the next mix along had a key clash in it and wasn't perfect if you wanted to be picky

number of fucks given by the crowd: 0

Simon

Anyway, producing and mixing are 2 different arts.

People can be amazing producers and suck at mixing.

Flyk

nice lightshow, though

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