@HopelessN00b - serverfault.com/questions/573681/…

@ChrisS I flagged, but was laughing while I did it. I felt kinda wrong for enjoying a post I was getting obliterated.

It already had a LQ flag automatically thrown... so the post was screwed from the get go

@pauska nope Sun-Fri

Departing Friday afternoon

@voretaq7 And re-shot down by @Shog9.

Booting up my ol' virtualbox with a 2012 R2 install...for some reason the WSUS role on this server is missing the wsusutil tool so I can't reinstall :(

@Magellan with an actual rationale?

@voretaq7 That was a fun 3 minutes. Looks like someone pissed in Shog's Cheerios this morning too. (And I hope they catch that guy soon... I hate salty-tasting cereal.)

@voretaq7 Nope. Marked as Duplicate.

I told you....I told you....I told you....I told you....I told you....

Then I'm just gonna put another reopen vote on it 'cuz "NO BECAUSE DUP" doesn't fly for a change request IMHO

@voretaq7 His dup target is the same question back in '12...

with a status-declined

@NathanC with a good reason?

@voretaq7 Funnily, there are all manner of closed duplicates on the topic of the close-open-reclose-reopen... wars the current VTC system encourages.

@voretaq7 Yes, Shog posted a reason

@NathanC Actually, he posted a snotty comment telling us to look more carefully.

ook so what have I missed today

fill me in

@Magellan Look at the duplicate target's answer

@MDMarra you missed a decent AD question by Ed

@MDMarra @Magellan posted a suggestion on mSO, was closed as dup (when the dup target wasn't valid). Was re-opened, Shog re-closed it with a different dup.

@NathanC I did. That was also 14 months ago and completely fails to address my issues.

tl;dr: cheerios were pissed in, internet war happened

@MDMarra Ed got an answer (or 6) to his clients about why they don't want their domain controllers on the internet... there was mention of zfs, more good ideas died at mSO... and possibly something about boobies.

@HopelessN00b And barrels of lube

No, I haven't noticed any barrels of lube today.

Cue lube pic in 3.. 2... 1...

@NathanC Also typically .SE response in that the SO-appropriate application is the only one of value.

@HopelessN00b amazon.com/Plews-55-123-Heavy-Duty-Barrel/dp/B0009X8K0A

@TheCleaner oh jesus, where

@Magellan Yeah, we it is hard to blame them (as effing irritating as it is, given that SO is an order of magnitude larger than the rest of SE combined).

oops

@Magellan Apparently you have already forgotten about last year's Halloween costume:

will you people quit posting links?

@HopelessN00b and that's exactly where the entire company will stay if they continue to think only in that fashion.

@Iain In 6-8 weeks, I'm sure.

@Iain Oh yeah, I wasn't in on that call which makes the comment rather vague.

@Magellan well, he said next spring, had he said 6-8 weeks I would have known it was doomed

Installing WSUS on a server core install VM I have laying around just so I can grab its wsusutil...

@Iain Was that before or after he'd already been called for that one?

@MDMarra tee-hee

oh boy

@Magellan No doubt, and no argument here.. but at least this is one of those irritations in life that is both rational, and makes sense. I don't see those often, so I'm less hostile to them.

@MDMarra HI MARK

@ewwhite the correct answer is "Because they wanted to do it to pass an audit, but doing it would cause them to fail that audit"

HI SCOTT

@Magellan it's not spring yet so he can't be called on it

@Iain no, called on the 6-8 weeks meme.

@MDMarra You missed the client asking, "but why!??"

It was legitimately painful... and funny, at the same time.

@MDMarra and then asking me for a me to "provide any good articles/references on “why” not to open AD to the public internet..."

@Magellan ::sound of penny dropping:: I see :) Sorry I've just go in from cycling and I'm cold and wet - trying to warm up before I shower, not sharp at all

Oh, and I posted my first question on workplace.SE today, as well... and compared it to the mixture of amusement and shame that is found in masturbation. You also missed that...

@ewwhite lol noobs

@Iain no worries. I'm just sick of .SE treating all the other sites like inconvenient red-headed step-children.

@MDMarra it seems to be a good question

@NathanC at least there's a rationale (though per my reply comment I disagree with that rationale because our real-world situation is orthogonal to the logic that "only questions with problems get into the close queue")

what up folks.

and yes, there's talk about mSE actually being a thing in the foreseeable future rather than the 6-8 weeks meme, but honestly it's not going to change the way Stack development happens: Features are implemented for Stack Overflow. The rest of the sites are along for the ride.

@DanilaLadner My Blood-Alcohol-Content and my peni... nope, just my Blood-Alcohol-Content. What up with you?

the only way to change that is to fork the codebase, and there's zero economic incentive for them to do that (exponentially add to the development workload for loss-leader sites).

@voretaq7 Your mom is a loss leader.

@ScottPack well she's certainly not making me any money. Though to be fair I suppose she'd be more of a venture capitalist with what they invested in my care, feeding, and education over the years...

@voretaq7 Of course, with that attitude, the loss-leader sites (everything except SO) will never have a snowball's chance in hell of becoming profitable... :(

@HopelessN00b the logic is Stack Overflow is the "Q&A Community at the extreme end of scale"

@pauska I copied wsusutil.exe from a different server 2012 install and was able to complete the post-install...

@HopelessN00b Oh i quit my job

so every other community should theoretically grow to that size eventually and need the same features

@DanilaLadner So, your happiness is up? Sweet!

it doesn't account for variation in communities though (like the tendency for folks on SF to reflex-VTC all the things)

@HopelessN00b I guess

@DanilaLadner What do you plan on doing with your time now?

@DennisKaarsemaker that Sochi

@ScottPack going to Russia for 3 weeks

@voretaq7 Or the fact that we have some serious niche sites that incredibly have communities >10, for another thing.

not to Sochi

@DanilaLadner Luge?

Damn

@MarkHenderson No luck... I think the attachment was stripped out.

@DanilaLadner And I had my joke all typed out too. Bah.

@ewwhite Ill password it

My parents in Chelyabinsk

where meteor fell

@DanilaLadner why did you leave?

@DanilaLadner Woah woah woah. You're not a real Merkin?

@ewwhite Actually I just renamed itr

It would probably strip encrypted archives

@HopelessN00b ?

@voretaq7 s/things/crap/

@ewwhite Just too slow, man. very bureaucratic. people rather fail than change, so many things.

education is a beast

@ScottPack What does that mean?

Merkin

@DanilaLadner so are you looking, or what?

@MarkHenderson Microsoft Forefront Protection for Exchange Server removed a file since it was found to be infected.

It's a great industry to coast to retirement at, but not a place for us young bucks

yeah, quite disappointed.

@ewwhite Even when named as a txt file?

(unless you're in security, and then it's a new adventure every day)

@DanilaLadner You ever been to Seattle?

@ewwhite Will be traveling to Russia first

@MarkHenderson yep

Fuck shit

Ok

@Magellan No, never on west coast

@voretaq7 For examples... We have a cross-validation.SE and geographic-information-systems.SE. I find it incredible that either community is somehow larger than 10 users.

hello @KatherineVillyard.

@KatherineVillyard Hello :)

@DanilaLadner It's a mocking-entendre. I'm playing on the redneck pronunciation of the word "American" (think Bush Jr.) and word playing it to something that you should probably Google and is probably NSFW.

New people!

@DanilaLadner If you get a chance, I encourage it. It's great here. And we're hiring.

down, boys. down.

Hi. :)

sit. stay. good sysadmins

feels odd urge to stand ;)

@MDMarra I'm chipper. Katie's taking me out to a place called "101 Beer Kitchen" for dinner.

Hey, I'm just noticing the amount of rep points @KatherineVillyard has been earning.

I know! I'm Verklempt!

@ScottPack ooh, sounds tasty

@ScottPack Only place my wife sends me to is the supermarket for heartburn medication at 11pm

So, lucky you

@ScottPack My Katie is making falafel tonight. mmmmmmm

@ewwhite indeed. and I normally hate Windows questions.

@MDMarra I really like a good falafel.

Hell, I really like even a mediocre falafel.

@MDMarra <3 falafel

As do I. First time I've had it home made - it's pretty easy to make

chickpeas, onion, cilantro, parsley, and some other shit in a food processor, chill for an hour, fry

@ewwhite - sent again; if this doesn't work I'll just throw it on a web server

It takes longer to clean the food processor than it takes to assemble

@KatherineVillyard :)

@MDMarra Sounds good except for the making me dead part.

@MarkHenderson I'm in!

@MDMarra More lube.

being allergic to cilantro sucks.

Actually, $wife makes it without cilantro

still really good

Making you dead? Ahhh. Yes. There's no dying in IT. It's like baseball that way. I recommend against it in general, actually.

@ewwhite Finally!

she hates cilantro, yet I somehow found it in my heart to marry her anyway

My wife is hysterical about earthquakes

@KatherineVillyard plus they'd have to hire somebody new for my shift, and nobody wants to work those hours.

You can make food without cilantro?

With the 5505, you must make sure you don't specify features that are not avaliable at all on the device, otherwise it will reject it

Heh!

she thinks they are everywhere within Cascade Range.

@DanilaLadner so what do you want to do?

@DanilaLadner That's a weird thing to be hysterical about

@MDMarra I love Cilantro. I just get severe cardiac arrythmia when I eat it.

Oooooooooooooh! FedEx is stopping nearby! Maybe it's for me!

@MDMarra No it's not. I've seen Discovery Channel. I know that Los Angeles is one day going to be swallowed by a massive earthquake and eveyrone is going to die

@Magellan bummer - if I could only ever have one herb/spice to cook with ever it would be Coriander

@ScottPack not often

@ewwhite I got an offer from some fin co in jersey suburbs

do you want to do that?

Where in Jersey?

@Iain I knew I had done right when my 2 year old started plucking cilantro and chowing down as she walked by.

@MDMarra Jersey City

ah

Not too close to me, then. You're safe

Wat the Fsck! It was my license plates for the new minivan. Delivered via FedEx, shipped from a sub-contractor in Tennessee.

I live in Seattle.

@ewwhite they are interesting, pay is well too.

@ScottPack There isn't a part of it I don't use

emphasis on net a little

@KatherineVillyard No, you're allowed to die in IT. You just have to wait to do it until after the network's back up, and then wait around until the middle of the night for the coroner to collect you. So, like doing anything else in IT, really.

@Iain Excellent.

@DanilaLadner k

good!

but I have jobs HERE for you

@HopelessN00b I think you're confusing the coroner with the janitor.

@HopelessN00b But you're only allowed to die after you've written down all your passwords

@HopelessN00b LOL! I do believe you're right! I stand corrected. Or sit. ;)

@ewwhite in Chicago?

@ewwhite nobody wants to live there. It's COLD there.

@MarkHenderson How do I make it work for 5505?

@HopelessN00b rule nr. 1 of troubleshooting: It's always the network. Or DNS.

I have a customer that refuses to have more than 3 GPOs apply to any given computer because they think it will increase startup/logon time

@ScottPack I wish I could get coriander root, I have some recipes that call for it

I can't convince them that the settings themsevles dictate that, not the number of GPOs

@ewwhite I believe that security contexts are the one you need to be careful of

Set it to none, or 2

And SSL VPN Peers can't go above the 5505's maximum

@Iain Pull up a plant.

So don't set it to 10,000

@Iain So do you people refer to the whole thing as coriander?

Interesting mix of conversations...

@ewwhite Indeed!

Dmitry Kozak, the deputy prime minister responsible for the Olympic preparations, seemed to reflect the view held among many Russian officials that some Western visitors are deliberately trying to sabotage Sochi's big debut out of bias against Russia. "We have surveillance video from the hotels that shows people turn on the shower, direct the nozzle at the wall and then leave the room for the whole day,"

@ScottPack I don't grow it, it runs to seed far too quickly and generally the stuff I get in shops doesn't have roots

Coriander, keygens, @Katherine, and whatever craziness @MDMarra is working on.

@ScottPack I guess to

@ScottPack you have different names for parts of it ?

dashcams in bathrooms

Forget being screwed if I die..., we're screwed if we ever need to log into half our stuff!

@Iain Ah, ok. We grew ours in a pot on the front porch. Stateside we refer to the plant as cilantro, coriander seed, but nothing about the root in particular.

@MarkHenderson I just reloaded

@ewwhite Awesome

@ScottPack interesting

@Iain Definitely strange, but I don't know if it's interesting. :)

poop, still 10 hosts

@ScottPack I found it interesting :)

@Iain That's something then.

@ewwhite Didja remember to wr mem? ;)

put the wrong policy in... accidentally deleted 3des policies.

be careful

@ewwhite You replaced it with 6DES didn't you?

@ewwhite Oops

@ScottPack killed all the VPNs.

SECURITY ACHIEVED!

It does keep all those pesky remote users out of your systems.

(@ewwhite sympathetic face)

what browser identifies itself in the user agent as ;

OH NOEZ I KILLED THE CHAT ROOM!!!!!!!! ;)

Is there a privacy add on that does that, or just some buggy shit?

hi.

@mossy chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/13635204#13635204

looks at self SCREAMS OH MY GOD I'M A GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;)

dang it lol.

And fixed... Thanks @MarkHenderson. You just made me $600!!

@KatherineVillyard Right, so we're all in agreement about what killed the chatroom? :)

Also...

Besides, you can't be a girl. Everyone knows there aren't any of those on the internet.

@HopelessN00b I may have to disagree now just because.

;)

@ewwhite Well I assume you will go and purchase the correct licenses later on ;)

@ewwhite Easy answer. If you back up end user devices you suck at backups

@ewwhite who dat

@MarkHenderson he ordered them...

@mossy his crush