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6:06 PM
@voretaq7 haha I think I give up
@voretaq7 but you see where I'm coming from?
 
Anonymous
The Debian technical committee is having their monthly irc meeting today 18:00 UTC on #debian-ctte @ irc.debian.org.
 
Anonymous
If somebody wants to argue against systemd
 
@PatoSáinz I thought the change was already decided.
 
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@jscott you can still flame against it tho
 
Ah, so wasting time and breath. Got it. :)
 
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6:09 PM
:)
 
@pauska the article with Dr evil is right though. It's no longer an ftp server, it's CLOUD STORAGE
 
@pauska Let's not try and inflate my ego here. You're not coming to see me ;)
 
@MDMoore313 I was in a meeting with our MPLS provider today
two of their head technicians and our sales rep
He said something aka ".. into our VPN cloud"
I stopped him, and said: "If you say Cloud one more time I will stab you"
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@pauska < eyeroll >
 
the other technician almost had an heart attack of laughter
 
6:15 PM
one of the 'technicians' said VPN cloud ??
 
"MPLS Cloud" is a common phrase to refer to an MPLS mesh topology
As dumb as it sounds
 
@ewwhite FWIW, Centos 6.5 graphical install, no tools, mouse works fine.
 
@pauska salespeople probably wouldn't know any better, but a so-called technician
@MDMarra Is it common because it's on the wikipedia page, or is it on the wikipedia page because it's common? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiprotocol_Label_Switching
 
Well, I can tell you I've never read the wikipedia page, but I've heard "MPLS Cloud" from at least a dozen different vendors without anyone batting an eye
 
it's not a cloud
clouds are the ones blocking the sun
it's a mesh
or dual-circuit
 
6:19 PM
@pauska I think it refers to how you would draw it on a visio
 
or whatever
 
At least, I'm fairly confident that's where it stems from
 
@pauska meshes block radio signals, don't think it's a mesh ;)
 
I dont think it has anything to do with the cloud. Just how it's been represented on drawings for years and years
And now dumbass sales people are trying to draw some corollary between the two, because marketing.
 
all they do is confuse people
If I told my father that I store my photo albums in the cloud he'd literally look up and yonder
If I told him I store them on the internet he'd say "oh cool! how do I do that?"
 
6:22 PM
> In analogy to above usage the word cloud was used as a metaphor for the Internet and a standardized cloud-like shape was used to denote a network on telephony schematics and later to depict the Internet in computer network diagrams. The cloud symbol was used to represent the Internet as early as 1994,[28][29] in which servers were then shown connected to, but external to, the cloud.
 
and since when was cloud a positive word for anything at all, unless you live in ethiopia
 
"Cloud" has been the default network drawing place holder for "Internet" for as long as I can remember.
 
MPLS Circuitry
 
why not MPLS network, mesh being the topology
 
@MDMoore313 that's what network engineers say.. mpls network, or mpls backbone
 
6:24 PM
It sounds like a single circuit
 
Any ever heard of files getting corrupt from copying over the MPLS via UNC path? File copy works fine via RDP on the MPLS or VPN copy via UNC Path.
 
it was just this one technician who wanted to look smart with the sales rep in the room
 
@pauska exactly
 
(he's a great technician btw)
 
@cole this happens consistently?
 
6:26 PM
@MDMoore313 yes, with a .dll file
 
It's always fun to call out buzzword bullshit :-D
 
gets to 75%, hangs and then "finishes" copying - then the file is corrupt.
 
Any UNC path or a specific one?
@cole
 
AFAIK - any, but you know developers
I'm just looking to see if anyone has heard of this
Otherwise I'm going to tell them to go fuck themselves.
 
@cole We use mpls and I've never heard of it.
 
6:28 PM
@MDMoore313 I'm going with
They can go fuck themselves.
 
@cole Sounds strange that it works over VPN. .. anyhow support.microsoft.com/kb/911897
 
@MathiasR.Jessen well VPN comes back to here (HQ) where said server is - so that makes sense to me that it would work
What's weird is it works via RDP on MPLS
W2K8 R2 box
UNC path is \\server\web\data\Production_year_month_day\bin
(year, month, and day being numerical)
 
@cole some kind of MITM filtering_
?
firewall, antivirus etc
 
@pauska weird it would work via RDP copy
 
@cole RDP copy is inside RDP
 
6:32 PM
@pauska good point there.
 
it's not a direct SMB connection per say
see if either side have NIC offloading enabled
 
Hmmm... Funky. Try opening bort src and dst føles in a hex viewer
 
@cole in that case though it's sitting on top of rdp right? What would happen if they mapped a drive then
 
that can cause stuff like this with bad drivers
 
Stupide phone keyboard
 
6:33 PM
@pauska I'll check
It's a VM, too. (in the DMZ)
it's on a vmxnet3 adapter on the VMware side - there's like.....7 "Offload" options
Those dicks
it's W2K3 SP2
Fucking developers.
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@cole it's W2K3 SP2 Justification for "GTFO" and/or "FOADIAF."
 
@cole I doubt offloading inside the VM is causing this
what's on the other side? another vm?
 
No - physical box
Now they're saying its a W7 box
fucking kill me.
JUSTGIVEMEREMOTEACCESS,DICKS
 
"halp, halp, the windows 7 can't SMB to Win2k3!!!"
 
Need to make clear I don't want remotely accessible penises.
 
6:48 PM
Why not?
 
I mean, not to use on myself...?
I'd be a hit with the ladies if I had RDPenises
PaaS - Penis as a Service
 
@cole Punctuation saves lives.
@ScottPack Remotely accessible penises sounds horrible. What happens when someone 0-days their way into your penis? Remote access is dangerous enough on servers.
 
@HopelessN00b So you don't want your penis oh-dayed?
 
@ScottPack Not by some greasy script kiddie living in his parents' basement, with a penis of his own I don't.
 
I started something weird, didn't I?
 
6:53 PM
@cole Go read last night's transcript.
 
"I flamingoed up"
"What's that?"
"It's like a cock up but much bigger"
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Nice
 
@DennisKaarsemaker HAHAHAHA
 
@ScottPack see, I wasn't going to go there, but you did
 
How many fucks are we up to in here now?
 
6:54 PM
@RyJones He'll be back in a while either laughing out his spleen or even more weirded out.
 
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Q: How to intentionally get denied entry to the US, without getting into trouble?

user11743I have a multiple entry visitors visa for five years. I went to USA last year and lived there for one year with my husband (6 months entry and other 6 months of extension). I left USA legally. Now my family wants me to go back and live with my stupid in-laws and husband in USA. I don't want to g...

lots of traffic there overnight
 
@cole Just in the comms room, or are we counting fucks at our physical locations? (Such as office-fucks and the like.)
 
@HopelessN00b how many times we've said fuck in here
 
@JoelESalas I bet @Chopper3 recognizes the quote
 
I hate when some asks you a question, then you say "no" and they respond with the same question in disbelief and you again repeat yourself. Then they follow up with "...are you sure?"
 
6:57 PM
we're cocking up as hard as we can today. Once again, a release on a Friday, when half the team is on Sabbath in Israel
@cole "the answer was no, now it's fuck no"
 
@RyJones "Now it's CHAIRTOTHEFACEBITCH!"
 
@RyJones Silly Merkin. The Sabbath is on Saturday.
 
$ cat commsroom.log | grep -i fuck | wc -l
OVERFLOW
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@RyJones Jesus-fucking-Christ. Sounds like she needs to discretely inquire around the VA for someone willing to send a family of Hajis to meet Allah.
 
ServerFault is now renamed to FuckOverflow.
 
7:00 PM
@ScottPack yes, and the office in Beit Shemesh takes Friday off and they don't answer email or anything
 
Just gave a VMware Demo
 
The guy who i replaced, is here. >.> he's been here for 1+ hour now.
 
@cole take cover bro
 
@cole Heh, if that happened around here, I'd be begging the guy to take his job back.
 
@cole kick him
 
7:11 PM
I was wondering why I couldn't upvote anything...the site logged me out
>_>
 
@cole Why?
@ewwhite You should start a blog. nobitchassedness.tumblr.com Tagline: What would @ewwhite do?"
 
@NathanC I think they've implemented garbage collection.
 
@Wesley nah
 
@ScottPack Ouch
 
"Visiting"
 
7:25 PM
I've been trying to create new cifs shares on a VNX all day. man, nothing can ruin my day like EMC.
 
@Basil Anal seepage
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$ cat commsroom.log | grep -i fuck | grep Basil| wc -l
OVERFLOW
@ewwhite today? I'd take anal seepage.
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@Basil wow... that bad.
 
@ewwhite I don't have ANY AD access.
I don't know how VNX does file, and every time I try something, I need to get hold of a windows guy to check for me
On top of it, I had to put two incredibly urgent projects on hold to handle this steaming pile of crap. Projects I know how to do.
 
@Basil buy some Olestra-infused chips
 
7:30 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker No, I fucking detest Red Dwarf
 
@Chopper3 but you did recognize it
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Nope, I googled it
 
@Chopper3 THANK YOU!
 
I like Red Dwarf, a colleague introduced me to it the other day
I like the cat.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Not all British comedy is golden
 
7:31 PM
@RyJones Do Olestra-infused chips magically push all the EMC out of your life?
 
I'm gonna eat you little fishie
@Chopper3 true that. Bottom isn't good at all.
 
@freiheit no, but he'll get the anal leakage he desires
 
I forced myself to watch the second episode thinking that maybe the first one suffered from pilot syndrome. About halfway through I just gave up and walked away.
 
@Basil grep -io "fuck\|basil" | /dev/null
 
oh god never let these chat logs be discoverable in a lawsuit
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7:32 PM
@ScottPack oh, the first two episodes are bad. It gets better after 4 or so
 
@RyJones I think I'd rather have anal seepage than EMC, too, but I would really prefer to stick with having neither one.
 
of course that might just be stockholm syndrome kicking in
 
@RyJones These logs expire out after several months... right?
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Have you seen "Mister Jolly Lived Next Door'?
 
Why does DFS insist on making clients refer to a server not in the same subnet?
It's making people pull data over a slow VPN link -_-
 
7:34 PM
 
@Chopper3 nope. Is it good or are you trolling? :)
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I love it
 
It quite pleases me that @DennisKaarsemaker's first reaction to @Chopper3 asking something was concern over trolling.
 
@RyJones For the legal record: everything I've ever said in here is a lie.
 
Oh, they don't. good thing I don't use my real name here. Knew that was a good idea.
 
7:35 PM
@ScottPack this is the comms room. Caveat browser.
 
@franheit clearly thats a lie too then. So some of what you said is truth.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker The US is the absolute king at comedy these days but there was a time when it was dire and the UK made the best, now it's a bit harder to find the good stuff from here but it's there. We do panel shows well now, and chat shows that engage the guests, that's why we get the cream of the world's celebs dying to go on UK chat shows - they're not just press-junkets, they're entertained themselves
 
@MatthewIfe But, then, maybe the one thing that is truth is that one statement?
@MatthewIfe also, there's i no n in freiheit.
 
@Chopper3 If you are the Kings of Chat Shows then why isn't Piers Morgan there any longer?
 
@MatthewIfe I never told the truth, intentionally. But everyone makes mistakes, so it stands to reason that some of the things I've said are true, but I assure you, that's completely inadvertent. :p
 
7:37 PM
@freiheit You lie, franheit!
 
@ScottPack he's not considered anything but an ex-newspaper-editor over here, nobody rates him as a chatshow host
@ScottPack and he's REALLY hated over here by the way
 
See, thats how I read you're name, I'm going with that.
 
@Chopper3 That was me trolling. I've never met anyone that likes him over here either.
 
I would like......some coffee.
 
@Chopper3 What's the take on Karl Pilkington over there and shows like "An Idiot Abroad"?
 
7:38 PM
I had my son's last ever parent's evening tonight, literally zero left to do with him educationally other than pay for the rest of it!
 
Great. Now I'm imagining a bearded Fran Drescher in bicycling shorts.
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Ugh.
 
@MDMarra I like him, he's been very successful - he really is like that in real life too, it's not an act
 
You can tell by the way he reacts to things
He's very "un-PC" with the shit he says. I think it's great, but wasn't sure if it was "transformed" for US audiences
 
Nobody in the UK is writing like 'Parks' in the states right now, maybe Charlie Brooker
 
7:42 PM
@Chopper3 @DennisKaarsemaker Ever seen this error on an HP?
      physicaldrive 1I:1:3
         Port: 1I
         Box: 1
         Bay: 3
         Status: Failed
         Last Failure Reason: Deferred write error
         Drive Type: Data Drive
         Interface Type: SAS
         Size: 600 GB
         Native Block Size: 512
         Rotational Speed: 15000
         Firmware Revision: HPD4
         Serial Number: 3SL1M7DY00009120PAYM
         Model: HP      EF0600FARNA
         Current Temperature (C): 45
         Maximum Temperature (C): 54
         PHY Count: 2
 
@Chopper3 Parks as in Parks and Rec?
 
@MDMarra Yeah, my favourite comedy for years
 
I was so sad to see Rob Lowe go
I was sad when he left West Wing early and now he's doing the same to Parks and Rec
 
@ewwhite No, not seen that one
@MDMarra I'd rather he be good in less than bad in more
 
true
 
7:48 PM
@MDMarra I'm slightly obsessed with Jean-Ralphio to be honest
 
hahaha. That whole family is perfect
Henry Winkler as the father is great
 
@ewwhite no, when disks die I don't investigate. I get them replaced.
So I might have had it, but not seen it.
@ScottPack 14.400 results...
 
@MDMoore313 You interested in some writing? Do I have you on GTalk / Gmail? Hit me up: nonapeptide@gmail.com
 
so now I have a pair of custom chopsticks. I feel like I should eat at the pho place across the street more.
 
@RyJones Pho-sho, dawg.
 
8:00 PM
I just ordered $69 work of Rachel's Ginger Beer - it better be all everyone spouts off about
 
@RyJones TAP DAT KEG
 
rachelsgingerbeer.com I bought one bottle of each
 
0
Q: SysAdmin Outsourcing

hugoAll, I'm looking for advice. We are a small startup with about 10 servers hosted at RackSpace. We would like them to manage our account but, unfortunately, they don't provide support for mongo and postgreSQL. We don't have the resources to manage our own servers so we'd like to outsource it. ...

@DennisKaarsemaker I've never seen this before. Getting the replacement for this disk is very tricky... 600GB 15k 2.5" SAS drive
 
@ewwhite Really? What's tricky about those? Unless I'm seriously intoxicated, all our ESXi hosts are jammed with them, and neither HP nor Dell have any issues replacing them within a day.
 
@HopelessN00b 600GB 15k disks in 3.5" aren't easy to source now
sorry, I meant 3.5" disks
 
8:08 PM
@ewwhite Boo hiss.
 
BIG
 
@MDMoore313 I definitely see where you're coming from -- FWIW I think you should chop that question into at least 2 parts ("What are some factors to consider when selecting a cloud provider?" - perhaps with some specific constraints, and "What factors should a company consider when deciding between Cloud, Colo, and In-House infrastructure?") -- I don't think we have good general case questions for either of those yet.
 
@ewwhite Oh wait, are they now your 1,592nd client and paying $2500 for your cell phone number? =P
 
@Wesley phone sex ain't cheap
 
@RyJones Something tells me that if I did a phone sex line, I'd probably end up being cheap.
 
8:10 PM
All you have to do is pull it out and slowly reinsert it...
 
Ah, 3.5". That would be the rub. If you're desperate, I have a handful at home, and could probably even scrounge up some from one of our older servers here.

If you're just explaining why you're not so quick to toss it in the trash, that makes sense, though.
 
Trap-ID=3034

Logical Drive Status Change: Slot 0, Drive: 1.Status is now Rebuilding.
@HopelessN00b the error was due to a failure of the drive's write cache... and the HP controller errored the disk out.
Desperate times.
 
@ewwhite Yeah, no kidding. Running a disk with no write cache. Eep.
 
@HopelessN00b there's the drive write cache and the CONTROLLER write cache.
and you're not supposed to enable the drive's write cache
and I did... because I was a dumb fuck in 2009
 
@ewwhite we occasionally enable drive write cache
 
8:16 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker under what conditions?
 
when controller cache battery is dead and the machine otherwise won't keep up (of course it gets disabled again when the raid battery is replaced)
 
for that, I just force the controller cache to work without the battery/capacity... raw-dog
 
for some reason that doesn't always work
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Yeah, now that you mention it, I've done that on old Dells where the PERC battery died (after like 10 years), and it was more than the whole server was worth to replace the battery on the controller.
(Why we didn't just replace the servers by that point is a whole different debacle.)
 
@HopelessN00b given that you hadn't replaced it after 10 years, I assumend you have reasons. And that those reasons are too terrible to want to hear :)
 
8:20 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker lol'd
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Reason was boss wouldn't let me. Not sure that particular boss actually had a reason, but if he did, it would be too terrible to want to hear, yes.
 
@HopelessN00b the fact that you have (had?) bosses who can do that is terrifying.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Have you ever worked at a place that didn't make billions of dollars and own glass towers? =P
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Everything that asshat said was terrible. Once bitched me out for running BIOS-level diagnostic tools instead of whatever shit we had in Windows 2003 because "OS diagnostics are at a lower level than BIOS diagnostic tools." To this day, I'm not sure if he actually believed that.
 
@Wesley Probably not... he's just slumming with us.
 
8:22 PM
@Wesley I worked at a university before this
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Unlimited budgets to be sure.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker How long have you worked at booking?
 
close to 7.5 years
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Damn. I'd be happy to find an employer I didn't start to hate after 7.5 months.
 
@HopelessN00b oh I've hated this job from time to time too. But it takes two to make a job awesome: the company and you. So far the company (read: management one and/or two levels above me) have always come through.
 
8:26 PM
Nice.
 
I've had one rough episode with a direct manager where things didn't always go well, but the person above that was more than willing to solve that problem. Now my old manager is a coworker and we get along just fine
 
@DennisKaarsemaker by just fine, you mean you keep him on a short leash
 
@RyJones no, not really, we actually work well together
might sound huggy-feely, but I prefer it if everyone just gets along
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Yeah, closest I ever came was $[job-2], where I had an awesome direct manager. Unfortunately, the rest of the organization was fucking ridiculous.
 
@MDMarra I think you mean "isn't" not "is" on the H-5 question.
 
8:28 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker I prefer it if everyone would just pay me.
 
@Wesley I sent you a message in Hangouts
 
Well that was an awkward typo
@MDMoore313 kk, currently in another google account doing some receipts and whatnot
 
@MDMoore313 watch out when he's drunk yo
 
@Wesley it was. You should have kept it :)
oh, and Booking pays well. This years bonus just got in and I'm looking at houses again.
Found one with an actual basement, which is rare in this swamp
so now I just need an old bathtub and a set of scalpels.
and an anatomy 101 book
 
@DennisKaarsemaker livin' the life.
 
8:30 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker Not scalpels, hydrofluoric acid.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Are you single?
 
@ewwhite are you interested?
 
gets popcorn
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Maybe... but just curious if you're doing the house thing alone.
 
@ewwhite sorry, but I'm married :)
 
8:33 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker Oh, okay.
:(
logicaldrive 1 (1.6 TB, RAID 1+0, Recovering, 8% complete)
 
Edmund and Dennis, sittin' in a tree, f s c k i n g
Wow, edmung. I kinda like it.
 
Good old Mark '.local' Marra.
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I just feel kinda tacky reinserting a disk to force a rebuild because I don't have a replacement
but yes, it's a Mark Marra-style fix.
 
@ewwhite poopsicle?
 
8:37 PM
So my daughter found one of my old Ewok action figures but for the life of me I can't figure out which one it is.
 
@ScottPack I bet dot-local was the funny name Mark got on the back of his highschool graduation jacket
@ScottPack At the risk of sounding racist... aren't they all the same?
 
@MarkHenderson Dude.
 
They're ewoks
@DennisKaarsemaker That's not an ewok
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I hate to break it to you, but that dress would not look good on @ewwhite. He doesn't have the shoulders to pull it off
 
8:39 PM
@ScottPack he does have the boobs though
 
@DennisKaarsemaker His might be bigger.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I'm working on my weight!!!
 
@ewwhite on gaining more of it?
 
ROUND IS A SHAPE
 
@jscott wat??
 
8:41 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker Listen, it takes a lot of work to maintain a figure like mine
You need to watch what you eat
 
@DennisKaarsemaker THAT ZOOMED SO HARD I'M COLORBLIND
 
You gotta eat like 8,000 caloires a day. At least.
 
@MarkHenderson %s/work/beer/
 
@Wesley Haha yeah I made the mistake of going full size
 
@ScottPack I need that on a shirt.
 
8:42 PM
On the plus side, we now know she has nice skin.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker BTW how long have you been married?
 
So I don't get it. Why did @DennisKaarsemaker post a photo of him marrying his daughter?
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@DennisKaarsemaker Tell your wife that a bunch of American, and one Australian, creepers think she has nice skin.
 
@Wesley since 2008-09-05
she's reading along
 
I know the dutch are kinky, but still
 
8:43 PM
@ScottPack And a cat. I want to scratch her dress.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Perfect!
 
@DennisKaarsemaker You got married a month before I did
Two months
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Okay so how have things gone after 5 years? Everyone else in here makes me want to kill myself when marriage is brought up.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker A BUNCH OF CREEPERS ON THE INTERNET THINK YOU HAVE NICE SKIN. PROPS.
 
@MarkHenderson Dude, November 11th, I keep reminding you.
 
8:44 PM
@Wesley brb sex
 
@DennisKaarsemaker fuck you
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Show off
 
And that's as far down the creep wagon as I'm willing to go at 3:45 in the afternoon.
 
Oh wait, I guess that's the point
 
@DennisKaarsemaker brb what?
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8:44 PM
@Wesley Hey I corrected myself
 
I don't understand
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@ScottPack I wish @mattBear was here. He'd totally jump off the creep wagon and dive into "THAT'S A FELONY" lake.
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@DennisKaarsemaker Apparently that's what happens when you post a pic of you and your wife to a chat room full of geeks.
 
More like a pool of snarkiranha.
 
@ScottPack what exactly is that? Google is coming up dry.
 
8:49 PM
@MDMoore313 snark piranha
That's a 100% Scott Pack original right there. I expect royalties ya'll.
 
@MDMoore313 When I posted a wedding pic, @Jacob said "Wow you're not as fat as I thought"
 
ahahaha
 
So, thanks for that
 
lol
 
@MarkHenderson I think he was disappointed.
 
8:52 PM
@ScottPack Hehe. You're a brave one. I'm giving up on making original names for things after I found out one I used to describe my boss yapping at me is slang for post-coital activities done while high. :/
 
@HopelessN00b Don't believe everything you read in Urban Dictionary. Most of the people that write those definitions up are high, schizophrenic, child molesters, and like Ubuntu.
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So Mark Shuttleworth is the sole contributor to Urban Dictionary? It makes so much sense!
 
@ScottPack No, Mark Shuttleworth doesn't like Ubuntu.
@MDMoore313 Puked a wall of text at you on GTalk. =P
 
@Wesley Yeah, Urban Dictionary wasn't the only source that hinted at its usage, though. So the child-molesting schizo stoners look to be correct on that score.
 

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