The Comms Room

Nathan C

12:02 AM

TODO: add todo list

Ry Jones

@NathanC TODO: prune TODO list

Scott Pack

TODO: Rewrite and prune TODO list

Ry Jones

@ScottPack TODO: refactor TODO list into TODO lists

Nathan C

I actually wrote a TODO: what the fuck am I doing again? comment in a project once. A personal one, but i laughed when I saw it again.

Scott Pack

@RyJones We laugh, but last night my wife's TODO list really did have "Rewrite TODO list" as an entry.

Nathan C

12:07 AM

I stopped making them because I'd forget to read them...kinda like making a list so you don't forget to do something, then forget to read the list.

Scott Pack

TODO: Read and begin processing TODO list

freiheit

@ScottPack I have an automatically weekly "review todo list" TODO list item

Scott Pack

I saw this on @Wesley's. "TODO: 1) Ask for bike buying advice. 2) Don't buy a bike."

Michael Hampton

-1

Q: advice about selling web hosting with git support

I would like to offer web hosting with GIT support which means that I need to purchase maybe a reseller account which allows SSH access and installing git in it. Where do you think I should buy an reseller account to offer this service? to offer people git support to pull/push their repos do th...

freiheit

@ScottPack 3) GOTO 1

Zoredache

12:11 AM

@MichaelHampton because I want to pay to have my git repos hosted by someone without a clue.

freiheit

ok. time to go celebrate that one of my favorite breweries is now old enough to legally drink. cya

Scott Pack

I'm fair positive I used GOTO a few years ago and it was actually the most straightforward and reasonable thing possible. I need to go look for that.

Michael Hampton

@Zoredache Exactly!

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton C'mon; do it one more time so we can suspend the guy

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson I'm busy answering questions!

Mark Henderson

12:13 AM

@MichaelHampton Sorry, that was directed at the guy who wrote the question, not actually you

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson Haha, yeah, I'm waiting...

Scott Pack

Probably not good when diskarbitrator is taking up a full core, is it?

Ryan Ries

I swear I read discombobulator at first

Matt Bear

auditor just left, we are looking good :D

beer time! and time to leave doors unlocked and reduce my password policies back down from strong to extremely weak!

and fire up the call of duty servers

and warez sites

Scott Pack

And take brazzers off the proxy blacklist.

Dan

12:24 AM

Evening

Matt Bear

@ScottPack hell, turn off the proxy!

Michael Hampton

Turn off the proxy for the sysadmins, at least.

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Q: To deploy Windows client unatteded via Linux server, how?

We have many sites world-widely, in which a Linux server (tftp, PXE, nfs, dhcp service, http enabled) is used to deploy Linux clients automatically unattended. Now we have a needs to deploy Windows 7 clients. How to do that? I have some thoughts, and a lot of questions. we intend to use existi...

linux windows deployment

Isn't the answer "Don't"?

Dan

@MichaelHampton It's kind of like asking "How can I turn a screw with a hammer". "Stop making life hard work and use a screwdriver, you dolt."

But, to be fair to him, it's probably totally possible if they can get away with just using a simple old fashioned SysPrepped image of Win7. Not sure how lite-touch they'll be able to get it, though. Still sounds harder work than it's worth to me

Mark Henderson

12:39 AM

@Dan Was just about to say, you should be able to push it out. I've seen Windows deployed from Linux PXE servers before.

But yeah, it's not ideal

Matt Bear

how hard is CCENT?

Scott Pack

@Dan But screws hold better. It's just so damn hard to pound in those threads.

@MattBear You mean the Cisco Certified Entry Network Technician?

Matt Bear

just got approval to get some CISCO training, CCNA requires CCENT, so basically is it any different then NET +?

@ScottPack yes

Dan

@MattBear N+ is dire, so yes

But CCENT is really CCNA Part 1

Literally, they just separated out the subjects into two certs a few years back. I've never bothered doing the exam but it's not that hard, really. A lot of subnetting and network theory, and a little basic Cisco

Matt Bear

from the description, it looks damn easy, so I'm wondering if taking the class would just be a waste of my time

Dan

12:46 AM

@MattBear If you're talking here, you shouldn't need a class. Certainly not a real one anyway - online should be plenty. Get a copy of Cisco Packet Tracer

Matt Bear

@Dan what layer does blah blah operate on, how many nodes in blah, how many ip's in a /24 etc.. etc..?

Scott Pack

How many addressable IPs in a 255.255.255.77?

Danila Ladner

heh, this

exactly, you need to be fast on this

Dan

@MattBear What they said - more calculations. It's all the same shit, but you need to be quick with CIDR notation and binary

Matt Bear

I shoulda read the course description first lol, CCENT is super basic

Dan

12:52 AM

Like I say - it's just CCNA part 1 and, really, ignoring the Cisco-specific stuff most people classing themselves as SysAdmins should be mostly at CCNA level. With IPv4 at least

Danila Ladner

I've setup multicast networks for finance companies across the globe, last time I took CCNA I've gotten 63%

It is really a lot about studying their cisco shit

Dan

Though I still struggle with the WAN technologies because I've never touched Frame Relay and things

Matt Bear

@Dan found the course description for part 2, companies paying for it, I'm gonna do it :D

learn the Cisco specific parts

Dan

@DanilaLadner I said ignoring the Cisco stuff :D Which if you know the rest it's not that tough to learn, but obviously if you don't know the commands then you don't know the commands. I just with people like HP and Cisco would come to some agreement on terms

The term trunking completely fucked me over when I first dealt with HP kit - me and the network guy had a very confusing conversation

Danila Ladner

well I've never really studied, just went for exam

But I do remember it was tough on timing.

Dan

12:56 AM

I got half way through a CCNA exam - the terminal broke, they refunded me and I never got around to sorting out a resit. Changed jobs and moved even further away from networking\

Danila Ladner

JunOS is also quite different.

I mean listen if the company is paying, just do it

it is better to use it than lose it.

Unless you have options

Scott Pack

From what I've seen of JunOS, particularly on the EX line, is weird.

Danila Ladner

like VmWare or RedHat or some Win NT

Matt Bear

a consulting firm has been handling our network up until a got here. the year before I got here, they paid them something like 60k over the course of the year for shit, the past year... 3k total

:D

Dan

I've heard good things from Juniper but I don't see it very often

Matt Bear

12:59 AM

so now theres lots of room in the budget for training, so that next year, they get 0 and we terminate the contract completly

Danila Ladner

very weird, etherchannel on Csco, bundle on Jun

Scott Pack

@Dan We're nearing the end of a several year project of completely replacing our Cabletron/Enterasys/Cisco network with Juniper.

Dan

@ScottPack Do you rate them?

Danila Ladner

all sort of stuff is different even on layer 2

Scott Pack

@Dan You mean like Hot or not?

Danila Ladner

1:00 AM

yeah yale university where i work also moving from HP to Juniper

Dan

@ScottPack I suppose my question is "Would you?"

Scott Pack

The EX stuff is very obviously one of the BSDs. I think I heard Free.

Dan

Interesting

Scott Pack

The configs get pretty messy to look at. Squiggly braces as far as the eye can see.

Danila Ladner

yeah a lot of familiarity with BSD

Dan

1:01 AM

Right, I'm in an airport lounge so I need to go sort out my shit. Catch you laters all

Scott Pack

It's actually like someone saw Perl hashes and though, "OMG THATS THE SHITZ!!!one!!" and tried to replicate it.

ewwhite

@Dan haha! Back to the UK!

Scott Pack

@Dan Just relax and wipe well.

Matt Bear

@Dan peanuts in one stack, corn in the other?

Danila Ladner

Well, to be honest cisco gear is still so overpriced, their quotes on the upgrade for our core were like 2.5x more than juniper. It is just not reasonable imho.

Scott Pack

1:07 AM

Yeah. Juniper is amazingly cheaper than Cisco, even at list. Then when you start talking about big contracts it gets unreal.

ewwhite

@DanilaLadner You need to buy things from the right places.

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Like out of the back of your van?

ewwhite

hey, you guys can pay silly prices all you want!

Scott Pack

Yes, exactly. @ewwhite keeps all the good stuff in his blacked out Free Candy van.

Danila Ladner

well market is market, we even had discounts for non-profit academic environment and still quite expensive.

@ewwhite By the way thanks for the help on my question today, wrote a test case on 3 pages.

ewwhite

1:10 AM

work the system... try to get "big deal" pricing for new projects.

@DanilaLadner What was your question?

Danila Ladner

vmware test plan

ewwhite

Oh, yeah... that all works.

Scott Pack

It's true. If you can do things like buy off big contracts and/or have a bulldog of a budget person leg them peck at the sales team. We have a handful of purchasing contracts that are negotiated by various entities that cover (usually) all public agencies or higher eds in the state. Those tend to have pretty good discounts.

Matt Bear

@ScottPack I gotta guy, who knows some people, who know some people, who robbed some people

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton I once had a van pull up to me as I was loading groceries in my car. The guy leaned out the window and said "Hey, mate, my collegue here accidentally ordered too many bluray entertainment systems. I need to get rid of them before my boss finds out. Wanna buy one for $300?"

Matt Bear

1:16 AM

@MarkHenderson cool, how many you get?

ewwhite

I'm just sayin'... you guys need to learn how to work the system.

Danila Ladner

@ScottPack Still quite expensive, I am not blame Cisco in anyway, they probably do have quite an overhead, just about to lay off 4K people, and their gear quite solid, but still very hard negotiate the price.

Matt Bear

and... this better of been a few years back, cause $300 is a lot for blu-ray

Mark Henderson

@MattBear None, don';t buy stolen shit

@MattBear I assume it was player + built in amp + speakers

Matt Bear

@MarkHenderson true... steal it yourself or go home

Mark Henderson

1:17 AM

And it was about 2010

ewwhite

My wife's company needed Cisco infra for a new warehouse facility. I was able to outfit phones, wireless, Cisco 4507 switches, firewalls, etc. for a fixed price. Cisco just wanted the deal.

Scott Pack

@DanilaLadner I've been agreeing with you, remember? I've seen Juniper kit nearly 1/4 the price of Cisco. Partially because it's cheaper to start with, and also because they're a lot more willing to negotiate down.

Danila Ladner

Yeah, and they on top of you for their stuff, sales engineers always quite helpful with deployments, if any issue they are here already when I didn't file the ticket about the issue yet.

Matt Bear

aight, im going home

later

Danila Ladner

still @ work?

jscott

1:27 AM

@MarkHenderson Be aware of the White Vans

Mark Henderson

@jscott That's exactly it

jscott

@MarkHenderson I remember my brother telling a story of how he and his gf had gotten such a great offer on some "spare" gear -- I hated to have to tell him about the White Vans, but at least I don't think he even has the system in his house any longer.

Scott Pack

Thank god for Craiglist

jscott

lol, virtual white vans!

Although I love me some CL.

Nathan C

CL is great if you're careful.

jscott

1:43 AM

@NathanC Boring.... :)

Nathan C

heh

the personal ads show how lonely some people are...

it's the creepy side of craigslist lol

jscott

@NathanC Guessing you don't browse back pages then.

Nathan C

Can't say I do.

jscott

Well that's probably for the best.

Michael Hampton

Great, out of band updates. Just what I needed.

Nathan C

1:58 AM

@MichaelHampton Yay more downtime! ...not.

Falcon Momot

out of band, or out of cycle?

I love to cause out of cycle patches...

ewwhite

Heh, one of my friends bought a Cisco ASA 5505 on my advice...

He's a developer...

should he be able to configure it on his own?

Nathan C

@ewwhite No. He'd probably just say "fuck it, open the flood gates!"

On that note, bed time.

ewwhite

I spend an hour configuring ASA firewall from the factory...

updates, initial config, VPN setup, SSH keys, etc.

Michael Hampton

@FalconMomot Yes, out of cycle.

Nathan C

2:06 AM

Eh...it's less than 2 weeks until the next set of M$ updates. Are they serious enough to warrant immediate patching @MichaelHampton ?

Shane Madden

@MichaelHampton Which ones? I thought they just re-released some new variants on ones they released earlier in the month with destructive bugs?

Nathan C

Heh. I have some guinea pig servers I update and reboot first. Basically one of the DFS servers and the slave SQL server

So if things break, nothing production-wise goes down.

Jacob

@MichaelHampton Any updates?

Michael Hampton

@ShaneMadden Oh no, it wasn't an out of cycle update after all. Just Windows being stupid.

You can't explain that!

Shane Madden

@MichaelHampton Awesome.

jscott

2:19 AM

Visual C++ Redistributable

That explains enough :) I swear 4 out of 5 applications bundle some version of it now.

Michael Hampton

All I installed was RSAT, and suddenly it wanted that update.

Falcon Momot

mhmm.

Thomas

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg125/puf_the_majic_dragon/itbull_zps30555e75.jpg
I seriously just had this conversation on facebook. I had to share with someone.

Michael Hampton

Oh, rebooting fixed it. What do you know.

Thomas

And apparently posting images in chat uses a different syntax... Good to know.

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jscott

2:26 AM

Funny color for an IT Bull.

Journeyman Geek

2:45 AM

@Thomas: likewise with comments ;p

goddamned markdown.

Mark Henderson

2:59 AM

@freiheit - ok so I was just out at lunch and there was a stall selling bouquets of chocolate flowers. How fucking ideal, I think to myself - flows and chocolate. Way to win a girls heart. 45 fucking dollars was their smallest shittiest bunch

Sometimes I think the world just likes playing cruel tricks on me

Journeyman Geek

3:41 AM

lol

Stack Exchange

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Michael Hampton

4:03 AM

OK, so... Server 2012 R2. What's up with the fish?

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton Apparently the fish is a "betta"

Siamese fighting fish

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Someone thought it would be cute? Not sure

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson Close enough. Figures Microsoft can't even get fish right.

ewwhite

4:15 AM

what a day.

house closing tomorrow @MarkHenderson

Mark Henderson

4:27 AM

@ewwhite Wow that took a while

Does it normally take that long?

ewwhite

8 months...

no, it's a function of my unique employment circumstances.

Shane Madden

@ewwhite Banks have a problem with it or?

Mark Henderson

@ewwhite Bank delayed you?

Whoever the vendor is must have been pissed off

I would be pissed if I was selling and it took 8 months to get my money

ewwhite

No, it's just that the seller didn't have enough money

short sale

so we brought more $ to the table...

but my mortgage/loan situation required jumping through hoops

Mark Henderson

@ewwhite Oh that whole thing again

Dennis Kaarsemaker

6:11 AM

moin

Joel E Salas

6:24 AM

@ewwhite Did you buy a house??

Shane Madden

So, just today, I've had one of my current coworkers call me with a question and say "I found this info on SF by googling and it's your answer, can you help me understand", and stumbled on a question from one of the guys at $job[-2] about a system that I built. Small world.

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Q: Apache2 RewriteRule syntax for ActiveSync redirect in reverse proxy

Okay, I think this is a fairly simple task, but I'm having a little trouble testing reliably and working out what I've done wrong. I tried to follow the Apache mod_rewrite documentation, but it doesn't appear to be working the way I expected. I have an Apache server running as a reverse proxy i...

apache2 reverse-proxy activesync

pauska

@ShaneMadden small IT pro world :)

Shane Madden

@pauska Seriously.

Falcon Momot

6:52 AM

user187657

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edb exchange exchange-2003 exchange-2007 exchange-2010 exchange-server exchange-transition

aah, spammers.

Michael Hampton

I don't see any spammers.

Falcon Momot

indeed, there has never been any spam.

pauska

the cake is a lie.

Michael Hampton

Where the hell is @Wesley?

pauska

Not on his bike for sure

Falcon Momot

6:59 AM

damnit, I tried to blend something up, and my blender caught fire instead

Michael Hampton

Falcon Momot

that is wonderful.

Michael Hampton

helablog.com/2011/09/…

Falcon Momot

7:16 AM

@FalconMomot - feel free to you know; edit it — Mark Henderson 1 min ago

it would be a waste of time.

Mark Henderson

@FalconMomot It took me about 25 seconds

To fix the typos and the formatting

Making the place neater is never a waste of time; you can make it neater by closing things like everyone loves to do, or by fixing up minor errors in questions

pauska

@MarkHenderson 2GB of trace data, and the DTA fails with the excellent error mesage "Cannot execute query" - without telling me which query

sadface

Mark Henderson

@pauska Damn

Haven't had that one before

I also haven't run 2GB of trace data either

Dennis Kaarsemaker

8:17 AM

@FalconMomot blendering, devops style :)

Mathias R. Jessen

I don't mind, but I'm sure the Israeli Ministry of Finance would appreciate it if you obfuscate your FQDNs and other sensitive details :-) — Mathias R. Jessen 16 secs ago

lol

Check out the computer names in the pictures he links to

Journeyman Geek

8:42 AM

@FalconMomot o0

dawud

10:16 AM

I decided to remap the admin users' group in my IPA server from `unconfined_u` to `staff_u`, now this is all (AVC) fun. I wonder how difficult will be to deal with `user_u` limitations WRT to sudo-io and stuff...

Chopper3

kill -9 serverfault.com/q/534776/1435

Tom O'Connor

11:15 AM

@ewwhite Where do you get your industrial CF cards from again? Looking for some with a higher temperature range than usual..

Nathan C

2

Basil

12:30 PM

morning

Cole

@NathanC nice.

Nathan C

Cole

12:49 PM

Man I hate bills.

huh - the star wall is looking kinda short.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

3 minutes downtime, followed by 2 hours (and ongoing) root cause analysis. I hate problems that cannot be explained.

t1nt1n

@DennisKaarsemaker Just blame it on the cleaner.

TheCleaner

1:16 PM

I did NOTHING!

2

ewwhite

@JoelESalas Yah, I bought a house.

RobM

that's pretty cool

Cole

Damn @ewwhite bought a house before @Wesley bought a bike.

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RobM

ok that can go on the star wall

ewwhite

@TomO'Connor Pretec makes good industrial CF cards.

@Cole and two bikes...

RobM

1:20 PM

you need to get a nameplate made up for the house ".local" and send a photo to @mdmarra

Cole

@ewwhite but you're also ballin' so...

What are you guys using for remote support for users? Looks like we just use TeamViewer.

RobM

join.me

the price is right and its 'good enough'.

ewwhite

either

Cole

@RobM join.me always gets so wonky on me - like I can't click on certain things. Is it better w/ the Enterprise? Or just the same?

We'll probably just start using Sametime for support. It has built in screen share w/ the ability to take control.

Chopper3

long story but I'm fairly pissed off right now with a few work-related people, I'll apologise now if I'm a twat for the rest of the day

2

t1nt1n

1:29 PM

@Chopper3 That me for the last 2 years!

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@t1nt1n turned out to probably have been a cleanup job

we're now re-cleaning less vigorously to see if we can reproduce some of the weird graphite graphs we saw without breaking everything :)

@Chopper3 nerf sniper rifle

RobM

@cole we've not been using the enterprise version and we've been ok. We're also in a position where my boss would rather be fucked around a bit more and save some money...

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Cole and he offered to buy @wesley a bike :)

Cole

Snap I'll take a free bike!

@RobM sounds like here :/

Man this guy in the Netherlands is probably the nicest guy I've dealt with here.

Oh and the woman I worked with yesterday who's a Business Systems Analyst or something. She was really nice.

Overheard the rest of my team the other day saying how they never get a thank you or anything from users. I get them all the time - maybe because I'm not a dick.

TheCleaner

1:46 PM

@RobM haha...made me think of something that would be awesome to do on the front of your house (forgive the horrible MSPaint)

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Cole yes, us dutchies are nice :)

@TheCleaner @MichaelHampton will bitchslap you for not making that ::1

Chopper3

@DennisKaarsemaker actual sniper rifle

Cole

@DennisKaarsemaker so nice.

Chopper3

@TheCleaner I have a very small "::1" outside mine

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Chopper3 only if you can blame someone else. Prison time is no fun.

Cole

1:52 PM

@ewwhite get your Birchbox?

TheCleaner

@DennisKaarsemaker :) my house was built before 6/6/12

Danila Ladner

Nice house.

Where is it?

TheCleaner

@DanilaLadner it's located at images.google.com ;) (just grabbed one for the "chop")

Danila Ladner

Oh, something like this in Central CT would be quite expensive, housing in general is quite old here.

Cole

@DanilaLadner where in Central CT are you?

Chris S

2:02 PM

All the Beta versions of Windows since Win7 have included a Betta wallpaper. The final version does not contain the wallpaper. At least one person at MS has a sense of humor.

Cole

I am a former CT resident :P

Danila Ladner

Woodbridge, CT

TheCleaner

@ChrisS :) good trivia.

Cole

@DanilaLadner ah that's near New Haven right?

I lived in Gales Ferry and worked in Chester

Danila Ladner

yeah, near by New Haven.

Chester is nice by the river.

where did you move?

Cole

2:10 PM

I moved from RI to CT then CT back to RI then RI to Franklin, MA.

All in an 11 month span.

Danila Ladner

Oh wow. I moved to CT from Princeton, NJ

TheCleaner

WTH? Now when you try and unsubscribe from bulk email they try to keep you with cheesy "viral type" videos?

spc.gc.epsilon.com/optout/%28S%280xyfwz55jotxmk2au2jee4q2%29%29/…

Cole

@DanilaLadner I hated CT.

mfinni

@DanilaLadner You got shellacked by Nemo then

Cole

I think I need to start doing a bi-weekly budget opposed to a monthly.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

2:13 PM

Anybody here ever worked with A10 loadbalancers?

Michael Hampton

@ChrisS I'd probably enjoy it more if they made the start button a betta.

Danila Ladner

@Cole I do not think Central Jersey is worse than Central CT to be honest.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

I'm about to try one out

Cole

I'd take RI over CT any day, but MA > *

@DennisKaarsemaker nope we use Citrix load balancers.

ewwhite

@Cole Indeed, I did...

Travel-sack, cologne, some other stuff...

TheCleaner

2:19 PM

@Cole step-sister lives in RI. I dated a girl in college from Rockland, MA.

Chris S

@MichaelHampton You can change the Start button image in Explorer.exe in WinXP to Win7. Not sure about Win8 yet, probably will work the same though.

Cole

@ewwhite that cologne is awesome. The passport holder is really nice too

@TheCleaner where in RI? Rockland isn't too far from me.

ewwhite

@Cole I didn't get a passport holder... just a toiletries bag.

Cole

Oh I got a passport holder

It's leather - really nice.

Iain

@ChrisS on *BSD is the reset command used to reset a terminal ?

ewwhite

2:26 PM

reset?

to clear it?

read what I asked

@Iain yes, reset

@pauska ta

@Iain np

anyone know of a unix/linux variant that has a reset command that actually resets the system ?

TheCleaner

2:28 PM

@Cole hmmm...not sure to be honest. We don't get to see each other except on FB and it isn't listed there.

Love when a day gets better by reading others misfortune.

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Q: Windows Server 2008 compromised, how to restore?

Server seems like modified a lot. I cannot start/run/do many tasks like Task Manager, Server Backup, commandline password change, etc. User names, full names don't match with their descriptions. Now Administrator may not be the administrator. I cannot enable/disable accounts. Server is being u...

windows-server-2008

pauska

@Iain I think that one is pretty common across all *nix variants, even in HP-UX and such.

Cole

We have a ESPP here at work - debating if that's a good idea.

as of 6/30 employee price is $84.33 and Market is $100.05

TheCleaner

Did you get options when you came onboard?

Cole

I can enroll now if I want

TheCleaner

I meant did you get them as part of your incentive package for taking the job. Didn't you start there this year?

Cole

2:35 PM

Started in Dec 2012

and no, I didn't

Iain

@pauska I think so too, I just had someone drop a comment on an answer saying ooh reset is dangerous it can reset your system - I think Solaris in particular. Which is untrue as Solaris has the same reset(1) command as other systems. What SPARC systems have is an OBP reset command which resets the system but that's different

Cole

I'll just stick w/ my 401K.

pauska

@ewwhite @MDMarra virtualgeek.typepad.com/virtual_geek/2013/08/…

Nathan C

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Q: Can't access all administration pages in Frontpage Server Extensions

I have an old FrontPage box running Windows 2003 server and IIS6 and I can't get to the administration page I'm looking for. I can get to _vti_bin/_vti_adm/fpadmdll.dll?page=webadmin.htm and change settings there. I can also get to other pages that are linked from here, to do things like create ...

frontpageserverextensions

pauska

block dedup and symmetric active/active in the next VNX

Nathan C

2:45 PM

Someone's still using frontpage?

pauska

I wonder if anything of that will be backported to the current gen :(

Danila Ladner

Guys, has anyone used coursera?

Is it any good?

Cole

It depends on the course.

But it's not too bad & it's free...so there's that.

Danila Ladner

That's the problem, there is no reviews of the courses

Journeyman Geek

@DanilaLadner: there's no real risk, and it really depends on the course and you

I've loved some course (python with university of toronto) felt over my head in others (hardware/software interface) and just got bored with a few others

TheCleaner

2:57 PM

Interesting...never heard of coursera. But I may take this one for the heck of it and see if I get any nuggets

coursera.org/course/infosec - edited wrong one at first

Journeyman Geek

also, you can 'audit' finished courses

thats to say see what's in them

faker

urgh, I can't even get auth_basic working today in Nginx

I should go home

Danila Ladner

Right, I signed up for Algorithms Part I from Princeton

my first one

Will see how it goes.

Chris S

3:21 PM

Interesting stuff I've learned this morning (besides what hold music 2 major software companies use for their support lines):
- Some hospitals are now asking doctors/surgeons to play video games, particularly FPS, as a way to hone fine motor skills.
- Playing long running, strategy based games improves strategic thinking skills which translate to work environments easier than previously thought (WoW specifically mentioned)
- Playing games at ages <24 leads to more permanent development of these areas in the brain.

voretaq7

@ChrisS WoW teaches you that anyone important in life wears a big yellow ! hat

Chris S

Also picked up some new thoughts on education reform... but mostly fine grain stuff... I'd rather focus my energies on the big issues first.

Also, WTF is wrong with people who sell sh*t on eBay. I give you money, you print label and ship package. NOT HARD.... yet they manage to f*** it up all the time.

TheCleaner

Hey guys...question...I'm doing this: http://www.thextremexperience.com/cars/ - and the cars for the track I'm going to are:

Lamborghini LP560
Porsche 911 Turbo
Ferrari F430
Audi R8

I'm leaning towards the Lambo, but considering the F430...what would you drive?

Chris S

I've got a thing for Porsche.... So the 911.

The Lambo is AWD, while the F1 is RWD... Much easier to tear up a course in AWD.

I have to laugh, the <$100k Nissan has the best 0-60 time.

pauska

3:39 PM

like Chris says, the R8 will be easier to drive and handle

or the Lambo for that matter, same deal only more powerful

TheCleaner

Yeah Godzilla is quick. I like the 911 but I've heard they are close to impossible to control and I want a good experience, and not hit anything. :)

I've heard a Ferarri in a parking lot before...the engine is a symphony.

voretaq7

Guys, what's wrong with serverfault.com/questions/534799/…? Hosting games can be professional, Even web based ones with clunky-sounding back ends.

Danila Ladner

coverting cf2 policies to cf3, such a PITA, drives me insane.

voretaq7

@DanilaLadner Does cf mean "Cold Fusion"?

Because if it does I'll stab you in the throat right now. (Two birds with one stone: Punish you for mentioning such foul things in my presence ; Put you out of your misery for having to deal with such foul things)

(can we tell I don't like Cold Fusion? :-)

Danila Ladner

cfengine actually

Kevin Soviero

3:49 PM

Mmm... One day: rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/ds1000e/ds1102e

TheCleaner

See...questions like this make me wonder if new users on the site have very short term memory

serverfault.com/questions/534880/networking-a-remote-printer

voretaq7

@DanilaLadner mmh, not quite as terrible

Michael Hampton

@voretaq7 I can't remember the last time someone at Blizzard asked a question here.

Kevin Soviero

@TheCleaner Ahh yes, 404 errors make me wonder the same... ;)

TheCleaner

Nevermind, I think he realized his mistake...(maybe) He basically asked the exact same question @TomO'Connor and I answered just recently for him, but he never came back

voretaq7

3:52 PM

@MichaelHampton ...and if they did we'd kick them off the site because their professional activity is "We host games"?

Michael Hampton

@voretaq7 No, I have no problem with that question.

Chris S

@TheCleaner The newer 911's have rear steering with speed-adaptive geometry... So I imagine it takes some getting used to.

Danila Ladner

@voretaq7 writing a parser and converter drives me insane.

voretaq7

@MichaelHampton I have some problems with it, but not enough to say it's off-topic or bad and deserves closure

@DanilaLadner Nonsense. You're in system administration, you were already insane!

"THEY WERE CRAZY WHEN I GOT HERE!"

Danila Ladner

It just paid better than electric engineering when graduated in Russia.

Dan

3:57 PM

@ChrisS Eh, dont' feel bad - my $3k bike is even better :D. Since getting the bike I've struggled to get excited about sports cars. Not that I don't find them pretty and I certainly wouldn't ever turn one down!

pauska

champions league draw starts now

Chris S

@Dan I'm not sure comparing a bike to a car is really all that fair.... I could jump off a tall bridge or something an achieve a better 0-60 time for free.

Dan

@ChrisS I'm........not with you at all to be honest

Chris S

@Dan Maybe we're talking about different things?

Dan

Obviously they're different, but they're not incomparable given that they're both basic forms of transport

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