@pauska Developers.

@NathanC It seems like it is built in?

> For Dynamic Volumes, the unallocated space can be any empty area on any Dynamic disk on the system.

Problem is that it's a system volume.

@pauska You were preemptively harsh. The commentary proceeded in the predictable fashion. It's like you can see the future!

meh, probably should of mentioned "system volume", but still. Messing with partitions = risky

Mr. @RyanRies, [or any other PS people] would you have time for a Powershell question? It a bit [perhaps] esoteric/useless, so I'm avoiding the main site.

Sounds like he just wants someone to hold his hand and tell him it's okay that he doesn't have any backups.

@jscott Fire torpedos

A simple Get-Date will return a DateTime object. But Get-Date -F 'Y' will return a String. Which of the following is preferable, and is there any "real" difference in casting vs calling a cmdlet to convert the String Examples follow:

# Both examples return 'DateTime'
# Using the cmdlet
Get-Date (Get-Date -f 'Y')
# Using a cast
[DateTime] (Get-Date -f 'Y')

I don't think there's much of a difference unless you explicitly need a datetime or a string, like if you were to then insert it into a column in SQL that's cast as datetime, for example

I am confuse, both those give you the DateTime format

@pauska Yes, but Get-Date -F 'Y' on its own returns a String.

The only difference I can see is casts being a bit more dangerous, as you could do [DateTime] (echo ILOVEBALLS)

I was just curious about the mechanics of casting vs a second call to the Get-Date cmdlet. Is one "better"? More preferred?

@pauska But how is that different from Get-Date 'ILOVEBALLS' :)

heh heh:

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@jscott It's a string..

I dunno, when you have something else that this pipes in to, who must get a DateTime format?

@pauska But both your balls casting and my Get-Date balls error out.

I'm pretty sure those two examples are really identical to what PowerShell does behind the curtains..

Ah

there is a syntax error here somewhere, the second example failed

@MikeyB "DON'T. FUCKING. TOUCH. ANYTHING."

@voretaq7 Can I heavy petting touch it?

@Wesley NO

D=

The casting is implicit in the use of the cmdlet, I wonder what the overhead on "just" cast vs a call to the cmdlet.

I just want love!

@Wesley Lies. You're a cat.

@jscott If you're worried about the overhead of recasting, you should probably be writing your code in C# :)

@voretaq7 That's what you get when you enable the CLI on these HP3Com web-only switches...

@jscott YE GODS MAN IT HAS TO SEND AN RPC BACK TO MICROSOFT'S SERVERS TO DO THE CAST! NOooooooooooooooo!

Not that I'm looking at silly premature optimization, I was more curious about "how it works".

Ah. Yeah I wish I had time to play with that kinda stuff nowadays

I've never seen anyone use a cast on a cmdlet that already casts it

but hey, whatever floats your boat

As it is, I've got about 5 days to learn SCOM

@MDMarra You never replied to my uber good gotchas

@pauska They were basically "one MP at a time" and "lots of RAM" right?

lots of RAM

ooooooodles

@MikeyB Wow, that's pretty unexpected, I have to say

@MDMarra I won't mention that you can write a PS module in C#, compile it, import it and call one of its cmdlet all right from Powershell. :)

maybe not so much RAM if you drop reporting.. but SCOM without reporting is kind of pointless

I'm monitoring 50 servers with the default management packs, and the SQL server alone has eaten up 11GB of RAM

cache is good and everything, but I've seen posts about busy SCOM servers not being able to start .NET assemblies with 8GB of ram..

on the SCOM server, or on the SQL server?

the SQL server on the SCOM server

@pauska Actually, you can hook SCOM up to Service Manager and use SM's real datawarehouse for reporting

@MDMarra You still need a SCOM DW?

And you get all of the SM/CM data as well as the SM data to manipulate in your reports/dashboards

@pauska Nah, you hook a connector for SCSM directly into SCOM

you can still keep the SCOM DW if you want to do the reports inside of scom

wat.. this I didn't know

but you dont need it, I don't believe, if you're going to do 100% of the reporting from inside of SCSM

Where's Ed? Sandra's back: serverfault.com/questions/543625/…

Okay, take your bets

mine is 10 upvotes within 30 minutes..

is anyone else missing all of the user icons in here?

@RyJones negative

@RyJones I'm not (Chrome).

@RyJones That's a negative.

Are you on a network that blocks Gravatar?

no, your retarded little faces show here

SCOTT, MY MAN, WHATS UP?

No, I can see yours, @MDMarra

@MDMarra NOT MUCH BIGBOY

@RyJones Mine isnt hosted on Gravatar

most other people's are

@RyJones Nope, it's just you.

@MDMarra ah, OK

@RyJones Have you tried turning it off and on again?

@MDMarra afraid of the goverment seeing your jihad beard and deport you?

For a while you could only have it on gravatar. Then they made it you you can have SE "host" it (stack imgur subdomain)

@ewwhite Testla car bursts into flames. Stock tumbles.

@ScottPack three times!

@Wesley Nope, Chuck Testa

@RyJones Chuck's testies?

@pauska I make enough money that my tax dollars are juicy, but not enough that I know how to hide them in overseas funds and banks. So, I think they'll let me stay a while longer.

:)

@MDMarra How have things been going with you?

oh, another thing with SCOM which is kind of annoying

it doesn't detect VM's on vpshere as a virtual machine....

this, in addition to the ridicilous default of it running defragmentation alerts for SAN-connected VM's, makes alerts flood it

@ScottPack Good. I actually am not scheduled at a client for another couple of weeks, so I'm learning SCOM (as @pauska and I are talking about). We hired three new engineers for my team and they're starting to get out into the field, so I can finally breathe

oh sql server, how I hate you...

@pauska It will if you have the Veeam MPs! :)

@Wesley Hrm... Time to buy?

I found some ghetto script out there that tags vmware vm's properly, and wrote a rule to override the fragmentation alerts for VM's

@Wesley All the more reason to buy a bike instead!

@MDMarra what is this wizardry you talk about

Dude

If you're using VMware with SCOM you need the Veeam MPs

I don't even know SCOM yet and I know this

@MDMarra Congratulations. How often are you getting out of the house these days?

$LargeHealthcareOrg that I did some Orchestrator/SCSM work for a while ago had the Veeam MPs and they're fucking dope. Datastores, clusters, VMs, datacenters, etc all monitorable

@ChrisS I was wondering - I think Tesla can survive this. I think it's a solid company with solid tech.

@NathanC A bike you say? What is this bike you speak of?

fuck that, I'm going to kill vpshere here within next summer

@ScottPack Well, I just went out to get lunch and toilet paper

@Wesley one car catches fire.. yes, I'm pretty sure they'll survive

So....once this week

Veeam makes nice products, I'll agree to that

@ChrisS That's what I was thinking.

Today is the first day since Friday that I haven't worn gym shorts or sweat pants. I'm dressed like a normal human. I think my wife will be happy when she gets home.

@MDMarra I can relate.

Erm...okay. Trying to use the "Copy Database" wizard. It's complaining the database already exists, but SSMS says otherwise. O.o

@MDMarra Normally I go on site on Fridays, but otherwise the only time I see other people are things like LOPSA meetings.

@ScottPack in my defense I had the flu Sun-Tue and still had to work so I was basically propped up in front of my computer with 4 blankets and a box of dayquil capsuls

@MDMarra I always wear real clothes, though. I have enough self-respect for that.

@ScottPack You'll get there, don't rush it.

Already made $6 =]

Tesla is a dangerous investment

imo

@jscott I would prefer that you keep it as a DateTime object so I can continue to do useful things with that object, such as measure timespans, do datetime arithmetic, etc.. As a string, it's pretty useless to me until I convert it back into a DateTime.

nevermind...the wizard defaulted to the same destination server

But at the end of the day it doesn't really matter

@MDMarra Long term, I agree. But I think in the next week or two everyone will forget these stories and the price will bounce 10%

Does HIPAA compliance + WEP = A Bad Thing™?

@ChrisS ah short term buy, got it

@Tanner Are you asking if it's poor security or if it would satisfy an audit?

@Tanner does the WEP SSID lead back to sensitive data?

@RyanRies Oh I agree on keep it as DateTime. I was curious if there's any functional (or otherwise interesting) difference between casting a returned String to DateTime, vs using the Get-Date cmdlet to perform the String-to-DateTime process.

@ScottPack Audit.

I know that's poor security...

@Tanner Ask your auditor. HIPAA has the problem of being pretty fucking terribly defined.

@ScottPack Ah, so it's not just my Google-Fu. Thanks.

@MDMarra Probably.

@Tanner I can almost promise you there won't be anything within HIPAA that would speak to it. At best there might be something in HI-TECH.

HIPAA and FERPA basically are like "HAHA YOU HAVE TO DO SOME SHIT BUT WE WONT REALLY TELL YOU WHAT BUT IF THERE'S A BREACH YOU'RE SCREWED. MAYBE. WE DON'T KNOW LOLOL"

Pretty much that.

SSIS is being a royal pain in the ass. I'm sick of seeing "An error occured" :(

afaik, no one's ever been penalized for a ferpa violation, correct @ScottPack?

The requirements for HIPAA/HI-TECH compliance are whatever your auditor's findings tell you the requirements are.

@Tanner Takes 10 minutes to crack WEP... Possibly more if you want to crack it passively. hackyshacky.com/2013/04/wep-cracking-backtrack-5.html

@MDMarra Isn't that the case with 4/5 compliance programs?

@MDMarra To the best of my knowledge that's correct.

@ChrisS Less.

@ScottPack is there an iPad app that can crack WEP?

@ScottPack I probably should have said "Anyone can crack it in 10 minute... Less if you're good"

Sometimes I find myself without internet and there's WEP everywhere just taunting me

I'm sure there are GPU-accelerated decrypts for WEP..

There's enough open WiFi APs around me that I don't need to crack WEP. =]

@ChrisS That's probably fair. About 8 years ago I saw a program that would passively crack WEP in a handful of packets in under 4 minutes.

@pauska I think most of the time is just gathering packets for analysis, not the analysis part.

@ChrisS Yeah, it's fun. Any kid with mild interest, reading comprehension, and a backtrack image can do it. I've been hollering about it for a while but... what do.

WPA isn't all that much better if someone wants to get in...

WPA2 is the wave of the future! :P

Slightly, but not significantly enough to matter, no. WPA2 is at least better.

If they're just looking for Internet access it takes too long.

WPA2-PSK, that is...

@NathanC Still takes <1/2 day

We just started getting serious about HIPAA compliance, and they're disabling the 'guest' wifi because it's insecure. They're asking if there's any other 'guest' connections on our network. Really the 'guest' connection was WEP with a weak key, vs WEP with a strong key. Wonder if I should bitch about WEP in general or let it slide.

Everyone using WPA2-Enterprise with PEAP is in for a rude awakening as the scope of the NSA's TLS cracking keeps broadening

@ChrisS I think TKIP is even worse

@Tanner What I would suggest is finding a standard, defining it as yours, and following it.

WEP, WPA, WPA2... All suffer from the same problem. Some idiot took a perfectly good encryption algorithm and figured it would just "do" everything necessary.. That they didn't need to think about how the algorithm is used.

@Tanner Switch to WPA2-Enterprise for internal and have guest be open, but VLAN/ACL'd so that it can only go out to the internet

Most SOHO routers I know of only support WPA2-PSK/WEP

@MDMarra Eh? Is there new news?

some support radius

@ScottPack @MDMarra Thanks.

@Tanner HIPAA, just like PCI, is all about limiting your scope. If those users don't need access to the data make sure they can't.

@MichaelHampton There are new allegations on Hacker News every day

Who knows what's true and what's tinfoil hattery

@MDMarra That's why I don't read that shit

WPA2-Ent can not be passively cracked, only actively... And only with a great deal of computing power (relative to a script kiddie with a laptop)

A week or two ago, there were lots of articles with people claiming that the rng in Intel CPUs that supposedly use temp and other ambient conditions to generate random numbers was tainted by the NSA

And judging by some of the questions @FalconMomot was asking in here and on SO a few weeks ago, I'd imagine he's probably working on figuring out of this is true or not.

Actually...I haven't seen him in here recently.

Anybody here that uses Outlook actually use it for RSS feeds? Always felt like it was completely unnecessary to include it in Outlook at all.

@MDMarra Probably doing a software audit of a site written in PHP.

FALCON MARMOT, HAVE YOU BEEN CAPTURED BY BIG BROTHER? WAVE YOUR MOHAWK THREE TIMES FOR YES

@MDMarra So, TechEd?

@pauska When is it?

We are excited to announce that in 2014, we’re bringing together the best of TechEd and MMS at TechEd North America in Houston, TX, May 12–15. We will continue to provide these two powerful communities with the rich experience and deep technical content they expect, while expanding the opportunities to interact with other professionals across the breadth of Microsoft technologies

@TheCleaner I've never heard of anyone using it.

This is likely to be closed over on gaming...would it be OK here? Seems like an Apache issue.

@TheCleaner An old professor used to use it

He would subscribe to a hashtag's feed in outlook and have his students tweet anything class related with that tag

People would get bonus credit for discussions outside of class on the subject matter via twitter

@superpatosainz How so?

@tombull89 I'd say no without more detail. The details boil down it "It's slow when people use it"

Oh are you talking about the google container thing

@NathanC That carpet looks about as shitty as mine.

Everyone is sucking on docker.io and lmctfy on HN

Except, I bet 99% of them just deploy to Heroku, so what's it even matter to them

Let Me Crap (on) That For You?

Hm, facebook chat appears to be broken...at least for me

That's an unfair assessment, I suppose. But every time there's an infrastructure discussion there, no one knows what the fuck they're talking about

@superpatosainz It's new and it's not LXC?

I think that's it

Trying to run a database copy...and it fails at a stored procedure with Transaction (Process ID 58) was deadlocked on lock resources with another process and has been chosen as the deadlock victim. Rerun the transaction.". ...okay...

@MDMarra - HN?

@TheCleaner news.ycombinator.com

Paul Graham's LISP implementation of reddit for hackers.

That's what I thought you were referring to but don't see lmctfy on there...

Who's in for a little round of hover.ie MP?

nevermind...see it

@TheCleaner It was #1 for a big chunk of yesterday

mornin' Gents.

That was one of my more unpleasant interviews.

@pauska wtf is this

@MDMarra You didn't play Hover on Win95?

@Magellan Was that the one that skipped the phone screen?

@pauska I'm down.

@Tanner Yeah. And this one wasn't even supposed to be the technical interview.

@tombull89 hover.ie/#mp/1853272794