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2 2 minutes EHLO 127.0.0.1 mta1433.mail.gq1.yahoo.com SMTPS 3/16/2017 8:57:01 PM

djsmiley2k

so BoA is using yahoo?

Burgi

> We're contacting you regarding your account ending in 6149. We have an important servicing matter that we need to discuss with you.
> If prompted when calling, please use this unique priority code 9229195 to access your account.

@djsmiley2k my address is a yahoo one

DavidPostill

@Burgi Is that the full output? From all the headers?

djsmiley2k

rofl forums.yahoo.net/t5/Manage-your-account-settings/…

@Burgi dear lord

Burgi

5:22 PM

@DavidPostill pretty much

djsmiley2k

Why have you not ran away screaming?

they are like the biggest failure.... ever

well on the level of talktalk

DavidPostill

@Burgi Ring them on +44 20 7174 4000

user226528

Suddenly I have a new outlook on the world. LOL.

Burgi

@djsmiley2k run away from yahoo?

user226528

@Burgi Yes!

user226528

5:25 PM

I did it 15 years ago.

Burgi

i've had this address since 1997

its too much faff to change

djsmiley2k

@Burgi yes!

lol no it's not

setup forwarding, walk away

theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/14/…

1 billion accounts, muahahaha!

</evil laugh>

Burgi

i prefer the yahoo web client to the gmail one

the gmail UI is horrendous

djsmiley2k

get inbox tbh

but nah it's nice -_-;

email is crap eitherway

spam, and bills, and spammy bills.

hometime!

Burgi

HOME TIME

user226528

5:33 PM

@Burgi How about Outlook.com?

Mokubai

Wait, people are still using Yahoo?

user226528

@Mokubai Actually, I recently discovered that some people are still using RealPlayer!

Mokubai

O.o

Really?!?!

I thought that had become largely irrelevant like 10-15 years ago

user226528

@Mokubai Apparently, RealPlayer is 56 on FileHippo's list of top 100 downloads. It is at version 18 and it has changed names more than any Microsoft product.

user226528

RealPlayer, RealONE Player, RealPlayer Cloud and now RealTimes.

user226528

5:44 PM

And here I thought Microsoft is the record holder for indiscriminate rebranding.

Rahul2001

@FleetCommand WinAmp is 17 :/

Yahoo! Messenger is 20 :(

IE is 66

user226528

@Rahul2001 Winamp is 19, not 17.

Mokubai

Ahhh. The good old days, back when the internet was only 25% porn and a little bit of light malware...

bertieb

@Burgi no problem, hope they do as well for you as they have for me :)

Rahul2001

Mokubai

5:52 PM

Caching?

user226528

@Rahul2001 I thought you meant 17 years old.

user226528

@Rahul2001 Because Yahoo! Messenger is 20 years old.

Rahul2001

@FleetCommand lol

Interestingly, Songbird is 84

Mokubai

WTH is songbird?

bertieb

Patch notes for 1933-03-20: Experimental jazz support

Oh, version 84

Rahul2001

5:55 PM

I used to use songbird a lot with my mp3 player because philips had an integrated version

user226528

@Mokubai A music player

Rahul2001

Songbird (software)

Songbird is a discontinued music player originally released in early 2006 with the stated mission "to incubate Songbird, the first Web player, to catalyze and champion a diverse, open Media Web". Songbird utilizes the cross-platform frameworks Mozilla XULRunner and GStreamer media framework. Songbird currently runs on Windows and macOS. In 2012, an Android version and an iOS version were released. Songbird at one point also supported Solaris and Linux, but this support was dropped. As a result, users have forked Songbird and created a Windows, Mac, and Linux compatible derivative under the name...

user226528

Discontinued four years ago

Rahul2001

@FleetCommand IIRC, there's a fork called nightingale

Mokubai

Discontinued, yet number 86 on a list. Irrelevant software list much?

Rahul2001

5:56 PM

@Mokubai Still works better than iTunes, so yeah...

Mokubai

Foobar2000 for me

allquixotic

Spotify and JRiver MediaCenter for me

Rahul2001

> In January 2010, Philips announced they will ship a personalized version of Songbird with some of their line of portable audio/video players.

user226528

AIMP for me.

allquixotic

I used Songbird for a while

getnightingale.com

Mokubai

5:59 PM

@Rahul2001 That's not what we call a ringing endorsement. "Damning with faint praise" is what I call that.

Rahul2001

@allquixotic It appears to be ~~dead~~ dormant forum.getnightingale.com/thread-1482-post-5728.html

@Mokubai That's just me pointing out the crappiness of iTunes :P

Mokubai

But not really establishing just how bad or good Songbird is. When you are literally at the bottom of the pile then the only way you can go is up.

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Works fine for me :)

Mokubai

Wow. @DavidPostill uses iTunes, this changes the entire tone of the mod elections...

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Rahul2001

@Mokubai He also has iPods, IIRC

DavidPostill

6:03 PM

@Mokubai lol

@Rahul2001 Two to be exact.

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill Really? I remember it working well on my mac a few years ago but it has always been buggy on Windows for me.

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 I haven't had any problems. However, I'm still using Windows 7 ...

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill Never worked well on my Windows 7 laptop either, but then again, it had a Celeron and 2 gigs of ram :P

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 I have 4 gig and an i5-2410M

bertieb

Oooh, 1 hour til nominations close

Think we'll have any last minute ~~eBay auction snipers~~ entrants?

DavidPostill

6:16 PM

@bertieb 45 minutes I think. 20:00 GMT (Hover over the 1 hour)

Ben N

I think we're about 2 hours out

It's currently 18:16Z

bertieb

@DavidPostill Makes sense

Rahul2001

Tomorrow is last exam!

After which I get to spend half an hour with my girlfriend! :P

allquixotic

half an hour? who regulates that? parents?

I guess they don't want to allow the messing around that a full hour would permit, but wow

Rahul2001

@allquixotic She needs to leave at 12, exam gets over at 11:30

@allquixotic Heh, it's not like we've actually told our parents.

DavidPostill

6:21 PM

@BenN Correct. I was thinking we were already on BST (but that changes next Sunday)

user226528

Guys, I need a second opinion. Is this spam or not: superuser.com/questions/97286/…?

bertieb

I plum didn't notice

Rahul2001

@FleetCommand Low Quality anyway

Link only answers aren't appreciated

user226528

It was posted as a comment too. Right above it.

Mokubai

6:37 PM

@FleetCommand smells spammy

Ben N

The person appears to be a real person, at least - they have a SO account with normal activity

Mokubai

They spammed it as a comment on the accepted answer too.

Ben N

Interesting

Mokubai

Curious...

bwDraco

7:10 PM

No recent account activity on Stack Overflow. Compromised account?

Sathya

@OliverSalzburg thanks @OliverSalzburg!

bwDraco

chosenOne Thabs

344 3 8 20

c# xamarin asp.net wcf web-services jquery charts

Oliver Salzburg

:D

bwDraco

(last activity was February 16)

stackoverflow.com/users/1230189/…

Mokubai

@bwDraco can't say for sure.

bwDraco

7:14 PM

Mod message time?

Sathya

Pops is taking a look at it, I would assumed the account has been flagged elsewhere

Rahul2001

7:35 PM

Hm. It is unusual to have so many mods present in a chatroom.

I count 6.

Mokubai

Been dealt with

TOWMN

DavidPostill

8:03 PM

Voting has begun :)

Oliver Salzburg

@DavidPostill Did you get that last participation badge since yesterday?

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill Cannot access from app :(

DavidPostill

@OliverSalzburg Not yet. I blame caching :)

Oliver Salzburg

lol

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Try a browser on your phone :)

Oliver Salzburg

8:05 PM

It was Constituent :D

I say, that worked out well

Rahul2001

Apparently there is no way to access meta.SU from the app, you need to open it in a browser and then click on a link which opens it in the app

Oliver Salzburg

@Rahul2001 On the Sites page, there's a dropdown which says "Main Sites" by default

At least on Android

Rahul2001

I'm on android too

Oliver Salzburg

Then the dropdown should be there

Rahul2001

@OliverSalzburg Ah, found it, thanks!

DavidPostill

8:13 PM

@OliverSalzburg Yes, it was caching :)

Ben N

8:32 PM

The moderator election has entered the final phase - votes accepted until March 28

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DavidPostill

@BenN Good luck!

Ben N

You too! :D

Rahul2001

8:45 PM

Goddamnit I hate you guys for making me choose.

3

Mokubai

^ this

Dom

hi, anyone familiar with editing the keyboard configuration via the registry?

Rahul2001

Exam in a couple of hours, I'll come back to vote later, this requires a lot of thinking and I need to get some sleep. Goodnight!

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 You have nearly 8 days to think about it ;p

Dom

Function lock is making my laptop quite a pain to use and I can't figure out how to disable it, have been trying for 8 hours now - please help me if you can

not a noob btw, I'm a software engineer

Mokubai

8:55 PM

@Dom Is there like a little padlock icon on your keyboard?

Dom

not an FN one, have tried the only one present

Mokubai

Usually it's Fn+Padlock to toggle function locking

Dom

it's nothing obvious but i'm open to all suggestions

Mokubai

Photo of keyboard?

Dom

it's a replacement keyboard and i don't think it's identical to the original

my son was button bashing and hit some combo

but it's not anything obvious

Mokubai

8:58 PM

Oh, okay. Model of laptop so we can find it?

Dom

Satellite Pro L770-12F, couldn't find a pic that I could be sure was original

sorry toshiba

Rahul2001

@Dom lol, DuckDuckGo just took me to your question on SU

Dom

hahaha :D

Rahul2001

It's worth checking for a relevant setting in BIOS

Dom

have done, no settings for it :(

Rahul2001

9:02 PM

Hm... In Toshiba's "msconfig" startup tab there should be an option called Toshiba Flash Cards

Dom

I've downloaded that but it doesn't seem to work

Rahul2001

Whaaaa

Dom

all their software is for W8.1 max

the ones where it should be don't have a setting

Rahul2001

@Dom If you don't find a solution in a few hours I'll do some digging around after my exam. This seems like fun.

Dom

on my Dell work laptop it's a padlock :( curse the inconsistency of function lock

thanks a lot

can't really use it like this

Mokubai

9:06 PM

@Dom apparently there a Toshiba Accessibility Utility you might have which could have a setting: forum.toshiba.eu/…

Rahul2001

@Dom Tried this? tomsguide.com/answers/id-1913222/key-reversed.html

Dom

@Rahul2001 tried about 15 combos from there no luck

Rahul2001

blergh

Dom

@Mokubai haven't got it and can't download it anywhere

Rahul2001

> (0) Save all your open documents and stuff and close their respective programs

(1) Navigate to the following directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\Toshiba\System Setting

(2) Double-click on the "System Settings.exe"

(3) Scroll down in the left menu until you find "keyboard"

(4) Click on the "keyboard" menu option and change the default "special function mode" to "normal f1-f12"

(5) Click the "apply" button and allow your computer to restart.

Mokubai

9:08 PM

@Dom okay, next one:

> You have probably accidental activated this option. To enable/disable please use FN+F11 key combination.

Dom

@Rahul2001 don't have it :(

@Mokubai no luck have tried all F keys

Mokubai

Oh, that one might be num lock

Dom

have tried combining all locks - num,caps,scroll

Mokubai

Damn autocorrect

Dom

tried ctrl+fn+etc

Rahul2001

9:09 PM

@Dom ALT+FN?

Dom

done

Rahul2001

@Dom Potentially helpful? ftp.serdica.org/public/drivers/Laptops/Toshiba/…

Mokubai

What if you just tap the Fn key?

Works on this machine apparently

Or the utility in this one? steel-net.com/support/toshibafunctionkeys.html

Again, might be already installed

Dom

@Rahul2001 any idea how I download a whole folder from there?

Rahul2001

@Dom You would have to individually download the files I think, or wget. Shameless self promotion: rahul2001.com/archive/executables

Dom

9:12 PM

@Mokubai got it, the option isn't there, I think it's the same thing as System Settings.exe mentioned earlier

Mokubai

@Dom, do you have any Toshiba utilities?

Many things mention various tools, all supplied by them

Dom

@Mokubai everything that I've downloaded today. They all got left behind when I upgraded to W10

Mokubai

Ah

Rahul2001

Shameless self promotion: Get wget for Windows here: rahul2001.com/archive/executables

Dom

sorry I'm slow guys, have to press fn for every space

Hennes

9:14 PM

Does it have curl.exe too?

Rahul2001

@Dom ouch

@Hennes yes

I maintain it for fun

Hennes

Darn.

Rahul2001

@Dom Check your recovery partition for utilities?

@Hennes :P

Mokubai

@Rahul2001 you and I have a different definition of "fun"

Dom

no cigar, had it for about 6 years and it's been through a format or 2

Rahul2001

9:16 PM

@Mokubai Well, I was bored, and was trying to find ways to generate traffic to my site. Writing READMEs in text files is fun :P

Dom

in fact new HDD

Mokubai

> SOLVED - for me anyway but worth a try.

Go into device manager & uninstall the pointing device - for me it was a Lenovo pointing device!.

Restart Windows & ALL the keys now work as they should.

@Dom ^ an odd option...

Dom

worth a try, have uninstalled the keyboard a few times already though

Mokubai

Not keyboard, specifically a "pointing" device

Seems odd tho

Dom

yeah having a look now

yeah but I'm open to anything at this point

I have a lenovo pointing device ????????????? :/

Rahul2001

9:20 PM

@Dom lmao

Mokubai

Yeah. Seems odd

Dom

back in a jiff

Mokubai

Probably some badly detected device that ends up forcing a particular key to be held

Rahul2001

@Burgi Yooooo!

Burgi

i've voted

@Rahul2001 whats up?

Rahul2001

9:25 PM

@Burgi I cannot make up my mind

@Burgi Exam in 4 hours. It's 3 am. I really should go now.

Burgi

@Rahul2001 go with the girl that kisses the best.

Mokubai

I've not chosen, I'm hoping that one or more of the contenders is going to have a mental breakdown to make my choice easier.

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Rahul2001

@Mokubai I don't think either of the ones I'm really stuck between is the type to have a mental breakdown.

Mokubai

@Rahul2001 GET TO BED!!!

Rahul2001

@Burgi Personality trumps kissing skills in my opinion :P

Dom

9:27 PM

Words cannot describe how glad I am!

Rahul2001

@Mokubai Yeah, bye

@Dom YAYAYAYAYAY!

Dom

I can type like a normal user :D

Mokubai

@Dom so that actually worked. Wtf.

Dom

@Mokubai Thanks so much!

Burgi

@Rahul2001 unlike you i haven't had multiple girls on the go to make a choice

Mokubai

9:28 PM

Want me to post as an answer?

Dom

@Rahul2001 Thanks so much aswell

@Mokubai Yeah I guess that solves it, maybe someone can come along and explain one day lol

insane solution to a ridiculous problem

Burgi

but this one is a better kisser and has a better personality than my first girlfriend

Dom

lost a whole day to function lock

Rahul2001

@Burgi This one isn't a better kisser, but is definitely more of my type :P

Burgi

i was at my flat unpacking boxes and discovered all the pots i had were from my grandmothers and hadn't been washed

allquixotic

9:31 PM

I haven't kissed anyone in 10 years

Rahul was like, 6 when I last had that close contact with anyone

Burgi

@Rahul2001 i'm going to buy you a HUGE gold chain saying "PIMP"

Mokubai

@Dom I love computers. The solution to and cause of all humanities problems.

allquixotic

@Mokubai yup.

in general, solutions are the #1 cause of problems

Burgi

the indian lad in our office likes dating white girls (his words) but his mum keeps nagging him to marry a good hindu girl

allquixotic

before computers, it was buildings and institutions

Rahul2001

9:34 PM

@Burgi That's borderline offensive :P

Burgi

they were his words, not mine

Rahul2001

@Burgi lol

Burgi

you are too young to hear why he likes english girls

Mokubai

@allquixotic well, in theory the ultimate solution would cause no other problems at all

DavidPostill

@Dom You should have mentioned that you have asked this question on the main site:

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Q: How to toggle or disable function lock on Windows 10 via UI/CMD?

I know it seems like a basic question, but I haven't been able to solve it after 5 hours of Googling and trying different things. I currently have to hold the function (FN) key to perform various common actions, every space in this question required holding FN. I'm certain it's due to function l...

windows-10 laptop keyboard keyboard-shortcuts function-keys

Mokubai

9:36 PM

@Rahul2001 didn't you say you had an exam in a few hours and you should be asleep?

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Why are you copying my answer? ;p

Burgi

@Mokubai, give him a 4 hour ban

Rahul2001

@Burgi Probably should

byee for real though

anyway now he has gone.... this guy in our office said english girls are better because they are prettier

allquixotic

9:39 PM

@Burgi no need; @DavidPostill can do it himself in 8 days

Dom

@DavidPostill I didn't want to blast in as a new comer saying answer my question

Burgi

@allquixotic thats too late for his exam

allquixotic

@Burgi oh well :)

Dom

From past experience it doesn't get taken that well

Burgi

+1

DavidPostill

9:40 PM

@Dom It would have saved a bit of time though :)

Burgi

@allquixotic also what makes you think @DavidPostill is going to win....? :)

Mokubai

@DavidPostill Ahhh. I had put 2 and 2 together, got 16, divided by 4 and thought "did I see a question earlier...."

Dom

@DavidPostill probably, I just decided to try a different tact this time

Burgi

DavidPostill

@Dom No problem, we are a ~~mostly~~ friendly bunch here :)

Mokubai

9:42 PM

@Dom In general it's fine if you're bouncing ideas off chat, but popping in and just saying "answer my question dagnabit" isn't well received

Burgi

omg... is @DavidPostill wearing that hat to cover up the crazy trump hair?

Mokubai

I thought it was okay though

allquixotic

@Burgi because he will

book it

Burgi

@allquixotic if you had stood it might have been less predictable....

Mokubai

Damnable reputation cap

allquixotic

9:45 PM

@Burgi nah, it's perfectly predictable; people vote based on the numbers -- candidate score and rep. It's been that way since at least a year after each site's inception (the first year is unpredictable because nobody has very much rep or badges)

Burgi

you are missing the point but fair enough

allquixotic

not saying people shouldn't vote based on the numbers

only that they do

Mokubai

I've always voted based on who I think would benefit the community as a leader and peacekeeper

Burgi

my 3 votes have gone to the 3 most level headed people i've encountered

allquixotic

@Mokubai perhaps a better way to do it; but has a candidate with lower candidate score and rep ever been, in your eyes, more beneficial to the community as a leader and peacekeeper than someone with higher rep or candidate score?

Burgi

9:48 PM

in no order thats TOWMN, RH and HMC.... ;)

i had to bring all my pots and stuff back to my parents because i discovered it all needed washing and i don't have a dishwasher

Mokubai

@allquixotic in previous elections, yes. And had two particular people I wanted to run in this one then again maybe. But right now the rep is very close so it's not really a factor.

Dom

@Mokubai it was that my answers would need to be brief aswell due to the darn space bar malarkey so I think it worked out well in this particular space

DavidPostill

lol. Don't you remember my previous avatar?
(I'm almost totally bald)

Burgi

ok i have to go and take my crap back to the flat

ttyl

allquixotic

as the system is currently designed, they could almost (though not exactly) pick winners of elections without a vote by averaging the rep and candidate score of each candidate and automatically awarding the moderator slots to the highest N nominees

Dom

9:51 PM

*instance

djsmiley2k

@Burgi oh is it time?

Mokubai

@Dom you handled it fine tbh

Burgi

@DavidPostill maybe you've been infected with hair! shrugs

i've had a lot of fizzy pop tonight

afk

allquixotic

> infected with hair

djsmiley2k

Did we have an primary phase, or is superuser.com/election?tab=election wrong?

allquixotic

9:52 PM

@djsmiley2k no primary; only 8 candidates

@Burgi reminds me of a TNG Recut where Dr. Crusher says that her patient has "an acute case of death"

Mokubai

@djsmiley2k less than 10 candidates, no primary needed

allquixotic

@Mokubai there have to be 11 candidates for a primary

Mokubai

:P

For that I'm going to play Monkey Island.

djsmiley2k

If I win I'd be utterly shocked

Are the 'results' of the election announced?

Bob

10:07 PM

hi

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Yes. With luck there will be a link like this

djsmiley2k

that'd be mighty lucky for something like that to just pop outta the ether ;D

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k lol. It was link included in the SO Election Results post.

Bob

hmm. coffee, tea, Milo... choices, choices

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Here are the last su election results so you can see the format.

Isaac

10:26 PM

hey does anyone have any recommendations for an extremely light weight linux distro for just ssh?

bwDraco

10:36 PM

roar

bertieb

@Bob Which Milo..?

Bob

Milo (drink)

Milo /ˈmaɪloʊ/ is a chocolate and malt powder that is mixed with hot or cold water or milk to produce a beverage popular in many parts of the world. Produced by Nestlé, Milo was originally developed by Thomas Mayne in Sydney, Australia, in 1934. It is marketed and sold in many countries. Most commonly sold as a powder in a green tin, often depicting various sporting activities, Milo is available as a premixed beverage in some countries, and has been subsequently developed into a snack bar and breakfast cereal. Its composition and taste differ in some countries. == HistoryEdit == In 1934,...

is there another milo?

bertieb

Ahhh. Much better than the other kind

Bob

@bertieb other kind? :S

bertieb

The 'alt-right' professional troll kind

Who is currently one of the rectorial candidates for my alma mater

Bob

10:42 PM

o.O

bertieb

^^ Ayup

Sadly, it has a penchant for electing 'controversial' candidates (usually Good ~~Subjective, Bad Subjective~~ Controversial), so it remains to be seen what happens

Side note: why does enter send a message to chat rather than confirming the entered unicode char? (ctrl+shift+u→<number>)