Root Access

Journeyman Geek

12:02 AM

whoo. Votinated

Burgi

do you get amazon prime on the chromecast?

hmm...

nn all

Journeyman Geek

12:24 AM

@Bob hm. One could totally build a PC case out of stuff you find from daiso, other than standoffs youtube.com/watch?v=K8hLXJUQFoc

Bob

@JourneymanGeek tbf I could totally build a PC case out of a cardboard box :P

wait does your daiso sell angled brackets? o.O

Journeyman Geek

bigger ones

Journeyman Geek

1:14 AM

engadget.com/2017/03/20/…

This seems... arbitary

Bob

@JourneymanGeek And useless

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

If your laptop happens to be explosive, putting it in the cargo hold... well, there's fire suppression in there I guess but...

Also, hi NSA!

Journeyman Geek

Phones can be inflammable....

Even if you're not a terrorist.

Bob

Also kinda funny/weird that they're allowing phones through considering how many of those have gone up

Journeyman Geek

1:18 AM

(HI NSA!)

Bob

1:43 AM

@JourneymanGeek !!xkcd laptop battery :P

allquixotic

1:54 AM

[ Poets of the Fall - Daze ] - Orchestral / vocal cover ║ Billy Raven & Victoria Chinnova

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how does that gem only have <1000 views

Journeyman Geek

@Bob might like that actually ;p

jhmckimm

Question: If I have a server (Deb/Nginx) that I host sites on, and there are several people who manage this server, is it a good idea to give them their own accounts, or all just use root?

Journeyman Geek

Oh bloody well give them their own accounts.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I probably would... will listen at lunch (in ~1hr)

Journeyman Geek

Personally, I'd do the whole "host stuff on your own home folder" thing or at least give them their own webroots

likewise for databases

Bob

2:08 AM

I like PotF (thanks to @allquixotic) :P

jhmckimm

Well, it wouldn't really be used for the ones managing it.

Journeyman Geek

In fact, don't use root if you can avoid it

Disable remote access for root...

Bob

@jhmckimm what kind of environment is this?

work, personal, etc.?

Journeyman Geek

if you must, have keys (per user! If you're foolish enough to do it)

Bob

what kind of "management" would they be doing?

jhmckimm

2:09 AM

It's our "company" hosting server. We'll be hosting several games and projects from it.

Bob

what you generally should have is some kind of change tracking

if you can, use something like puppet, chef, etc.

Journeyman Geek

@jhmckimm games for playing after hours or games people are paying you to host?

Bob

then you can do pull requests for changes...

jhmckimm

People paying.

Bob

then you'd have a log of who made what change, and an easy way to revert

Journeyman Geek

2:09 AM

@Bob heh, workplace -2 did that

jhmckimm

Not like FPS games... Web-based strategy games.

Journeyman Geek

everything was on salt, and any changes were on git.

Bob

@jhmckimm Avoid giving many people free admin reign to the server

jhmckimm

Just myself and two others.

Bob

Because even if they're all trustworthy someone's probably gonna flub something at some point

been there done that :P

Journeyman Geek

2:10 AM

@jhmckimm essentially, people mess up

@Bob just yesterday? ;p

Bob

You want (a) some way of reviewing changes to production servers before implementing them, if possible, and (b) some way of reverting to backups/previous versions

At the end of the day, using a root account vs using sudo w/ user accounts doesn't matter that much

all forcing sudo would give you is a username attached to the change. which is good, but won't bring your server back up!

jhmckimm

We have a private gitlab instance and use deployment. We can roll back, etc.

Well, see, that's exactly why I'd rather just use root.

Journeyman Geek

@jhmckimm how would that be different from giving each user sudo permissions as needed?

Bob

@jhmckimm Conventional wisdom says user account + sudo is better than root, it's just not hugely better

It doesn't protect the server, but it does provide a bit of accountability

And it makes it easier to, say, revoke access if it comes to that (and assuming they haven't backdoored it in advance...)

jhmckimm

We don't SSH in very often but when we do it's usually to make major changes. Each project hosted on the server has its own user and group and is hosted in /home/projectname and has a /public web root folder. The accounts exist solely for SSH deployment.

Journeyman Geek

2:14 AM

@Bob outside meaning only one person has the root password, and greatly simplifying doing things the right way

jhmckimm

See, it doesn't matter who has the root password though. They can all still sudo rm -rf / anyway.

Journeyman Geek

@jhmckimm now, lets say one of your developers leaves...

or a new dev joins

its between "hey, here's the password" and changing the password to..

creating a new account, adding it to a group, adding keys, and removing/archiving said information.

jhmckimm

I suppose.

There's no way to bypass requiring sudo, is there? Only been using 'nix a few months.

Journeyman Geek

and you can actually tie that into your config management

Well, with physical access, its actually pretty trivial

jhmckimm

None of us have physical access.

Journeyman Geek

2:18 AM

but its "good enough" for most cases

jhmckimm

Just some randomers at OVH.

Journeyman Geek

ah

You could reboot over IPMI/iDrac, and switch the machine to single user mode

then do naughty stuff

jhmckimm

You've lost me there.

Journeyman Geek

sigh devs ;p

There's usually a low level remote access system on dedicated servers

or even VPSes

IPMI is for supermicro. iDrac is dell

jhmckimm

Ah, I see.

Journeyman Geek

2:20 AM

HP has iLO I think

in a sense though, we're talking about simpler management (than handing out the root password), not bulletproofing your setup

jhmckimm

Yeah.

Journeyman Geek

(Which is where backups come into play)

jhmckimm

...just respawn if you do take a hit? :P

I took that too literally, sorry.

Journeyman Geek

Actually, yeah

Thats totally the idea

Bob

@JourneymanGeek oi! :P

jhmckimm

2:22 AM

We're still in the phases of finding the floor, so we've just wiped the server several time in the past.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek not on Azure :(

if you lose remote access to an Azure VM, you're just plain fucked

jhmckimm

Yeah, we're better with Nginx -> Reimage entire server.

Bob

official guidance is to attach the disk to a new VM

which you can't do unless you delete the old VM first

jhmckimm

Oh well, I'll keep the admin accounts then.

The whole thing came to mind when I sawour personal accounts in with all of the site folders in /home.

Bob

wtf

I'm still getting announcer badges

this is getting ridiculous

jhmckimm

2:31 AM

Oh? Do tell.

Bob

superuser.com/help/badges/64/announcer?userid=117590

not a single one in 2016

5 in the last week-and-a-bit o.O

I don't even remember seeing those questions

jhmckimm

...so that's why your UID is in the share links.

I usually remove mine.

Bob

@jhmckimm yea, I do too

which makes this all much weirder

jhmckimm

Maybe someone is trolling you.

Bob

I keep it in intra-SE linking but if I paste a link outside SE I usually take the user ID off

jhmckimm

2:36 AM

Perhaps someone else has then shared that link?

Bob

@jhmckimm yea, thought so yesterday :P

yesterday, by Bob

wonder if someone is trying to game the system... and using my userid for whatever reason

@jhmckimm all 5 of them? :S

jhmckimm

shrugs

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob What about links shared in here? Likely to get several hits off that in itself/

jhmckimm

+1 from crawler.

Journeyman Geek

not that many

We have something like 15-20 regulars at most?

Bob

2:41 AM

@GypsySpellweaver ya, but it's been probably years since I looked at those (let alone linked them) and they're all badging within the last week

which smells ... fishy :P

hm. crawler is possible...

Gypsy Spellweaver

Only take 25 unique IPs. Don't say they have to have followed your link explicitly.

Bob

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Q: How to delete a file named "filen/ame" (with slash) on an ext4 filesystem in debugfs?

Playing with e2fsprogs debugfs, by change/accident, a file named filen/ame was created. Obviously the forward slash character / serves as the special separator character in pathnames. Still using debugfs I wanted to remove the file named filen/ame, but I had little success, since the / character...

+1, and congratulations. You've managed to find one of the only two cases of "weird character in file name" where just correctly quoting and/or escaping the character in a shell command won't solve the problem. (The other one would be a null byte in a file name, although I suspect that, on most filesystems, that would just truncate the name.) — Ilmari Karonen 8 hours ago

jhmckimm

3:45 AM

I'm lost. Could use a hand with some SSH key stuff.

Journeyman Geek

I'd start here digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/…

(since I quite literally used this to set mine up)

jhmckimm

Damnit. I've been trying to get onto their site all night but it's just been giving me error pages.

The link you shared works.

allquixotic

4:40 AM

AIRPOWER 2016 - Full Messerschmitt Me 262 Flying Display.

►

Journeyman Geek

If there was one good thing I could say about the germans of the era, they sure knew how the build pretty hardware

allquixotic

5:02 AM

for every German innovation there was something odd-ball the Soviets did

Motorjet

A motorjet is a rudimentary type of jet engine which is sometimes referred to as thermojet, a term now commonly used to describe a particular and completely unrelated pulsejet design. == Design == At the heart the motorjet is an ordinary piston engine (hence, the term motor), but instead of (or sometimes, as well as) driving a propeller, it drives a compressor. The compressed air is channeled into a combustion chamber, where fuel is injected and ignited. The high temperatures generated by the combustion cause the gases in the chamber to expand and escape at high velocity from the exhaust, creating...

Gypsy Spellweaver

Wonder it the extra thrust caused the props to warp rearward in flight?

Bob

5:17 AM

@allquixotic That song cover was great :D

allquixotic

@Bob right?!?!

Bob

how on earth does it only have 750 views after 4 months :(

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic YOU SEE IVAN....

allquixotic

IKR - it's amazing

Journeyman Geek

lol

@allquixotic so +2

;p

Bob

5:26 AM

IVAN?

Journeyman Geek

google.com.sg/…

Bob

@JourneymanGeek oh, that only works if you do a "you see ivan" :P

see also, /r/YouSeeComrade

Gypsy Spellweaver

5:40 AM

Soon I will need to move my shared hosting from GoDaddy to somewhere else. Looking for a hosting company that offers shared hosting that doesn't necessarily offer lots of frills, but also gives full access to my settings and DNS records, as well as being Let's Encrypt friendly, if not actually integrated into their control panel. Anyone got leads to follow?

Bob

@GypsySpellweaver Well... my knee-jerk is "avoid shared hosting". If you were in AU, Net-Virtue is decent.

What don't you like about GoDaddy?

Gypsy Spellweaver

Costs too much compared to many others. Same for their registrations. Been with them since 2004, but they aren't competitive anymore. And they won't make Let's Encrypt automatable.

Bob

@GypsySpellweaver How much does it cost and what's your budget?

Journeyman Geek

I got a call about a possible job

Bob

And also what kind of site? e.g. lots of shared hosts don't like sites that host file downloads, lots of images, etc....

@JourneymanGeek \o/

wait. a random call out of nowhere?

Journeyman Geek

5:49 AM

naw

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob They want 7.99 USD/mo for shared with 100GB storage. unlimited bandwidth

Journeyman Geek

applied yesterday

Bob

@JourneymanGeek that was fast!

Journeyman Geek

@Bob they had 3 ads for the same post on linkedin

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob Eventually an e-store, probably on ZenCart. That's another problem, their PHP maxes out at ver 5.6

Bob

5:51 AM

@GypsySpellweaver ...hm. hard question... shared host has the advantage of not needing to manage as much yourself, of course, but then you're basically at the mercy of the host for everything

Journeyman Geek

@Bob that said, they're a company subcontracting to another company subcontracting to a bank ._.

Bob

I'm guessing you don't get a ton of traffic

@JourneymanGeek oh gawd.

Journeyman Geek

and the call was from new jersey

But its soooo an indian company

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ...next thing you know you're handling microsoft support cases :P

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob I'd willing go with VPS over shared, but I can't justify the cost while doing testing and setup.

Bob

5:53 AM

@GypsySpellweaver A VPS doesn't necessarily cost more, tbh. But it's definitely a bigger time sink.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob If you do, you totally bloody should get a shibboleet code ;p

@GypsySpellweaver I spent roughly 50usd a year on my old one

including offloaded database at a dollar a year

Bob

@GypsySpellweaver The problem is you're trying to squeeze it under $8/month, which really puts you at the "el cheapo" end :P

The trick is to find a reliable, long-lived host at that price.

For most people, I'd just say grab something cheap off LEB

But you actually want a website... presumably with decent uptime...

Journeyman Geek

@Bob @GypsySpellweaver I totally recommend buyvm

Bob

and, heck, I'm paying more than that just for an email host o.O

Gypsy Spellweaver

That's part of what I liked about GoDaddy, been there for a while, likely to stay. But PHP 5.6 is no longer really current, and they have cPanel but won't enable the Let's Encrypt plugin.

Bob

5:56 AM

@JourneymanGeek I'd actually recommend RamNode over BuyVM if you're going that path. But they're all similar, decent-ish low-end VPSes.

RamNode is probably a step up from BuyVM

Journeyman Geek

buyvm.net/openvz-vps the 512 mb plan seems good enough

@Bob used to use em, was good ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I've used both

I've used a lot of LEBs :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob info on the company I talked to is on gitter

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I'll probably take a look later tonight

Journeyman Geek

I can pop it on steam ;p

but yeah, no rush

Bob

5:59 AM

@GypsySpellweaver If your only concern was price, there's plenty here webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4

But yea reliability and overloaded servers might be issues.

If you just wanted a LEB VPS lowendbox.com

but again... issues :P

Journeyman Geek

"Why do you have a year's break on your resume" I answered I kept applying for jobs - market here is terrible and I had hardly any interviews . They seemed positive tho

and didn't talk about salary outside "what was your last earned pay?"

@Bob I wonder how low a cheap dedi can go...

Bob

@JourneymanGeek You can get them $20/month easy, Kimsufi go down to 3 EUR/month

actually that's a decent option

OVH isn't going anywhere fast :P

Journeyman Geek

online's got quad x86 for 11.99

their 3 euro offering's ARM

Bob

@GypsySpellweaver Try these kimsufi.com/us/en/servers.xml

> Atom™ N2800
Atom™ D425

Terrible CPUs, but... they work :P

$7/month, 2 GB RAM

Unlimited 100Mbit network too

They also do VPSes but I've never used those ovh.com/us/vps/vps-ssd.xml

small disk on those :\

Journeyman Geek

Eh. I've run home servers off worse. They'll be better than shared hosting, and no risk of vps contention

Bob

6:05 AM

ya, dedi is nice for that

the hardware is yours

all of it

peg the CPU cores at 100% all the time and you won't get complaints

I remember a shared host got real unhappy with me cause a maintenance cron script dared to go 100% for 5 mins

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob @JourneymanGeek Got some more reading to do. Thanks. Don't want to get a big deal until I got it set up and looks like it'll get traffic. I've even thought of doing off my own box for a while. Ain't gonna be any big deal for some time to come. Not with this dinosaur of course.

BWT @allquixotic thanks for the input on the rebuild. still reading on the APU's.

Journeyman Geek

@GypsySpellweaver I run a slightly nicer, but still cheap dedi for my own use - about 35 euros a month. Its a really nice way to get vaguely professional grade hardware to mess around with

Bob

yea actually, taking a closer look... that $7/month Kimsufi is nice

bit hard to get though... you basically have to set up an alert and buy it as they get stock in :P

very very popular

Journeyman Geek

@GypsySpellweaver and if you do that rebuild, you could test what you want to do on the old box ;)

Bob

downsides vs VPS... you won't have a VPS's burst performance, and you won't have redundancy (RAID) on the storage

Gypsy Spellweaver

6:09 AM

Not if I scavange the PSU

Bob

but you'll definitely get better sustained performance :P

Journeyman Geek

eh. just throw in a cheap PSU into the old one?

Bob

@GypsySpellweaver eh, buy a cheapo $10 PSU off ebay :P

worst it could do is fry the old CPU + mobo (+ drive)

no real loss

Journeyman Geek

@GypsySpellweaver I have a pile of old hardware for the same reasons.

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob True enough.

Bob

6:10 AM

hm... I'd be a tad worried about the network. eh, stick in a $5 flash drive and you've got your storage

but everything else is isolated

Journeyman Geek

@Bob totally did that ;p

and even cheap PSUs rarely take out whole systems

Bob

@JourneymanGeek the real risk is a fire but that's really unlikely

idk

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I've never seen a PSU on fire

blow up? sure.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I've seen some tested ones get pretty hot. Luckily, the PSU comes with a nice metal case and not too many flammables inside :P

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob Got a few IDE disks that won't migrate to rebuild anyway. so storage is no problem. Not worried about the network either. Unless the store actually works out, it's a project for learning. Wife wants to sell handycrafts.

Bob

6:12 AM

huh, Hetzner has i7-2600 servers for 25 EUR

and a bunch of Athlon 64s

@GypsySpellweaver Etsy?

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob She don't like Etsy or Ebay. Not sure why, and gave up trying to comprehend.

Bob

:\

you'd get more exposure on Etsy/eBay tbh

it's not easy to promote a small crafts site

Gypsy Spellweaver

I know on a dedi I can install anything I want, is that true for VPS as well?

Bob

hm. D425, N2800

shit and slightly less shit

@GypsySpellweaver effectively

If you get an OpenVZ VPS, the kernel is shared amongst all guests on the machine

you get a pseudo-root inside your container

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob All true. But I can't win in argument with wife.

Bob

6:15 AM

if it's KVM (or Xen), the entire thing is a proper virtual machine and you get your own kernel

more practically, that means with OpenVZ you're limited to the distro images the host provides, while KVM lets you install any OS you like from an ISO

a dedi gives you actual dedicated hardware

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob Is OpenVZ GNU/Linux or Windows?

Bob

you can do anything you like with the hardware, but of course you don't have free reign over the network (i.e. don't launch attacks on other machines, etc.)

read the ToS basically

@GypsySpellweaver OpenVZ is Linux kernel only

Windows Server 2016 introduced containers but that's very very very new. And generally you won't find Windows servers on the low/cheap end.

You can get Windows on KVM but it tends to cost a bit more

Not really worth it for a budget webserver, unless you specifically need ASP.NET etc

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob Prefer GNU/Linux anyway. I'd guess that they keep the kernel updated with security fixes, or lots of customers would be unhappy.

Bob

@GypsySpellweaver Oh. I don't know if it's still true, but last I had an OpenVZ VPS, the kernel was still stuck on 2.6.x branch

so if you actually need new kernel features, you'd be SOL with OpenVZ

@GypsySpellweaver only whatever RHEL6 backports, I believe. And those updates tend to be a bit delayed because they need to schedule downtime.

Personally? I'd go the dedi first. KVM maybe. OpenVZ as a last resort except as a really cheap server for fun.

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob Yikes, even I have 4.4

Bob

6:19 AM

But for your purposes, it doesn't really matter too much, I guess.

@GypsySpellweaver Well, 2.6.x is a very long-lived branch cause they only really started increasing version numbers quickly on 3.x. IIRC 2.6.x is only like 5 years old?

So not too terrible. Hey, it's newer than Windows 7! :P

But it's old and getting worse. Yea.

Oof. 3.0 was Jul 2011

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob At this point fun, and practice, is about all it's likely to be. Unless somehow she gets really good exposure.

Bob

But yea 2.6.x has been EOL for years. Apparently 2.6.32 was last maintained in 2016.

Gypsy Spellweaver

Maybe after it's "running" on empty, she'll go for Etsy :)

Bob

There's a 2.6.32.71!

@GypsySpellweaver If you want the most freedom, dedi. $7/month Kimsufi. If you want cheapest, you can nab an OpenVZ server for $10/year but don't be too surprised if they suddenly disappear one day, and it's gonna be quite slow.

Those are the two extremes within your price range.

Lots of choice in the middle too

Gypsy Spellweaver

Shoot, with a dedi I could even spin up a couple VMs to do serving, and wipe em at one go if I wanted to.

Bob

6:24 AM

@JourneymanGeek already pointed out a decent BuyVM OpenVZ

I'm gonna point out RamNode if you wanted to take a look at those :P ramnode.com/vps.php

@GypsySpellweaver Yup. Though, be careful. If you're looking at the Kimsufi, the N2800 has VT-x support but the D425 is older, worse, and doesn't. And they're both under the KS-1 tag...

Gypsy Spellweaver

Got all all those bookmarked for later reading. Thanks. Kimsufi's dedi is less than GoDaddy's bottom end shared!

Bob

Virtualisation without VT-x would be absolutely horrible.

Journeyman Geek

@GypsySpellweaver also, we kinda hate godaddy ;p

Bob

Hm. lemme correct myself. If you did KVM (full virt) without VT-x, it'd be horrible

container virt (@allquixotic likes LXD for that) would be alright

that said, the D425 is just plain shit at everything - it's like a low-end phone CPU - so do grab the N2800 if you can :P

Mostly, you'd feel a bit of pain during setups/installs where everything takes ages. But serving basic traffic should go okay

But. Yea. Definitely budget machines. Definitely cheap. Definitely not powerful :P

@JourneymanGeek better than EIG! ... I think?

Journeyman Geek

EIG?

Bob

6:30 AM

@JourneymanGeek owns hostgator and a whole bunch of others. likes to buy out shared hosts. has a reputation for replacing good support teams with bottom-barrel outsourced rubbish.

name a well-known shared host and it's probably EIG

Gypsy Spellweaver

I don't hate GoDaddy, 13 years with 'em after all. But, just not relevant anymore. And, in my thinking, if you're not going to stay up with PHP (default is still 5.4, but they offer 5.6) I gotta worry about other, security, updates too.

Bob

s/known/advertised/

@GypsySpellweaver ya, that's the thing that annoyed me most about shared hosts (other than resource issues). Getting a decent runtime environment. Also, I prefer Python, which meant I was basically screwed :P

my first little website was python/cgi

well, first one anyone actually used :P

> Your dedicated server
from
$6.00

$7.00

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob Support is the one thing that's always been good for me at GD, though seldom need it either.

Bob

@GypsySpellweaver Oh. Make sure you read the AUPs and ToSes.

Especially on VPSes, they often have some ridiculous rule like "you can't have a CPU load of 1 for more than 5 mins every 30 mins"

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob I always read those things. I wouldn't have sold my soul to GameBox :)

Bob

6:33 AM

@GypsySpellweaver Yea, that's something that you won't have with a VPS/dedi. They'll help with hardware (or host) issues, but you need to manage your OS, webserver, database, etc., yourself

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob Worst case, I go to SE for help :D

Bob

lol, true

Gypsy Spellweaver

I help others. Others help me

There's always man pages too. "You can learn a lot from a book" so to speak.

Bob

Hm. The Kimsufi shared hosts actually aren't bad kimsufi.com/us/en/hosting.xml

decent (read: up-to-date) environment

Gypsy Spellweaver

If I go with a dedi, maybe VPS, I also have to run my own mail server, right?

Or get one somewhere

Bob

6:38 AM

@GypsySpellweaver Yup.

@GypsySpellweaver Who's your domain registrar?

Low-volume outgoing email is simple enough (you can typically send straight from the server; configure SPF on the domain records)

Gypsy Spellweaver

For now, GD, that's gonna change too.

Bob

Incoming mail... often domain registrars offer free forwarding

e.g. Namecheap does

I ran like that for quite a while

@GypsySpellweaver Here's a benchmark web.archive.org/web/20160619115112/http://serverbear.com/…

Apparently, worse CPU perf than the RamNode VPS

Probably same goes for BuyVM

But that depends on how oversold the VPS is and also how bursty your load is

eh, always a hard question :P

I used to run a netbook with a N280 in it... this is better than that at least! :P

Gypsy Spellweaver

I'm sure that if anything really happens, I can always upgrade/migrate. My own website has turned into nothing more than remote bookmarks for my SE accounts.

Bob

ya, true. you're paying monthly anyway

Gypsy Spellweaver

Open that page then I can get to anyone with a single click.

Bob

6:43 AM

@GypsySpellweaver kimi.nwwebsites.co.uk github.com/chovy/kimsufi-alert

Just make sure it's a N2800 before you buy :P

Gypsy Spellweaver

Even if I jump ship on a yearly lease, If the store makes money and need the space, it's worth the loss.

Bob

Oh. Also. The server is physically in France

Gypsy Spellweaver

Got the N2800 and not D425 in my notes already

Bob

So there'll be a slight lag when you SSH in and type commands, but it's not a big deal for the website itself.

You can always use Cloudflare's free tier if you feel like playing with that :P

Gypsy Spellweaver

Considering the way the states are going, not sure off shores such a bad deal anyway.

Bob

6:44 AM

Looks like they probably restock weekly, so adding yourself to the notification list can't hurt

>

Good luck to those trying to get a KS-1, available stock seems to sell out in < 1 minute or at least the last one did.

ouch

>

Many thanks! in less than two days, your service helped me to get a KS-1. Sure, I had the luck the that server was available for more than 30 min, otherwise I could never obtain it, since I was performing all the operations with a smartphone... ;)

Gypsy Spellweaver

So I have to install/run that script to get notice of available KS-1, then respond to the email?

Bob

lowendtalk.com/discussion/39143/how-do-i-get-kimsufi-ks1

@GypsySpellweaver nah, just add yourself to that site (kimi.nwwebsites.co.uk), the email is notification-only, you actually have to go to the kimsufi site to buy. probably better to create an account first so you don't need to fiddle with that later. and it'll take a while - very high demand

or go with one of the more available VPSes first and migrate when you manage to nab a kimsufi :P

oof, I forgot, OVH requires account validation

i.e. they want you to send some form of ID over to them by email

up to you if you feel like doing that or not. needs to be done before purchase.

Gypsy Spellweaver

That's a lot of demand for kimsufi!

Looks like it's grown into a complete culture.

Bob

> I have made a small html page that check for kimsufi server availability continuesy and alert you with a sound when server are available. As it is faster than email notification, i was able to get 2 ks-1 very easly ( it can still take a couple of days as they don't add server very often.Feel free to use it. ( btw it runs on a ks-1) elix-db.tk/kimsufi-watcher.html

@GypsySpellweaver pretty much :P

they used to be 3 EUR

the unlimited bandwidth and lots of disk space made them very popular as torrent boxes

@GypsySpellweaver github.com/MA3STR0/kimsufi-crawler might be a better bet; if you're at the computer it can open a popup much quicker than an email would go through :P

or of course @JourneymanGeek's favourite online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-sc

Gypsy Spellweaver

The elix-db link is dead.