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1:02 PM

@JourneymanGeek sorry, I asked the question before, and someone answered so I thought it was fine.

@satibel if it's a casual "I'd like to chat about..." Then it can be okay. Simply coming in to get attention on your questions isn't.

you'll see I'm not just posting my question if you look half an hour up ^^
but I'm stuck and I thought someone here might be able to help.

It can take a bit of time for answers to come in

Make sure you've included all your research in the question, and be patient :)

1:21 PM

[sarcasm]
BUT I AM PATIENT, NOW SERVE ME MY ANSWER, SLAVE!

o.O

you should consider retiring your win2k3 box

@Burgi I consider it, but windows 2012 doesn't work either, and I can't touch the config of it because it is managed by a contractor.

Hey look at my question

my question is amazing
give it a lick
`hmm it tastes like raisins.`

#PCMasterRace

1:29 PM

@TOWMN whats it like being back in edinburgh?

this chromebook says it has a gyroscope in it, what on earth for?

@Burgi so that it knows which way "up" is

don't accelerometers do that?

Does is specifically say gyro or accelerometer or both?

both

> Other perks included stylus, 720p webcam, accelerometer, gyroscope

arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2017/02/…

Gyro is probably better at detecting fine rotational movements, likely for parking a spinning rust disk or playing games where you rotate it.

1:38 PM

gyro is probably the same as the thinkpads, to stop the disk when you transport the pc.

i think it is a solid state drive

HDD 32GB eMMC

Of course it is possible that the gyro/accelerometer are the same device, just handled differently in the drivers.

oh, ok, so games probably.

@satibel just because that version has solid state disk doesn't mean that that isn't what it is for, other versions might have spinning rust and it might not cost any different to have the gyro fitted on all of them

the overlords are listening!

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i have a theory that it is doughnut shaped to help focus the governments mind control rays

and its the ideal shape for listening in to trumps phone calls

1:55 PM

> From GCHQ to the Apple campus, huge disc-like buildings are popping up around the world. As artist Simon Denny warns, they betray a world with no corners in which to hide

The future is round: why modern architecture turned doughnut-shaped

THEY FOCUS BRAIN WAVES!!!!

@JourneymanGeek ?

> The connection has timed out

i'd forgotten about apple's brainwave machine

@satibel i added a comment on what to check

as you've not really provided much useful infomation so far (hense the likely lack of responses).

Journeyman Geek

@Bob that Indian coffee company with the stock art

CaffeineAddiction

2:00 PM

@Burgi why would you want to listen in on trumps phone calls ... sounds like cruel and unusual punishment imo

someone on fox news said it had happened so it must be true...

@djsmiley2k well, if the server can answer requests from the LAN the port should be open, right?

@satibel only internally

the router may still be blocking things

and i presume you mean the openvpn server is responding on the lan?

yes openvpn, and the test webserver

ok

so the problem seems to be your router

in perticular, firewall / portforwarding on the router

So go to shieldsup.com and do the test, for the port you're running openvpn on (1097 iirc by default)

2:07 PM

when I have openvpn and the http server on my windows 7 pc, and I switch the ip in the NAT it works

@djsmiley2k did you mean GRC.com ?

yah that thing

@satibel weird

you say the server is listening on 'all' the ip's

you got multiple ips assigned to that server?

@JourneymanGeek I don't remember :(

oh it works now

must be the nightly ~~cleaners unplugging the servers~~ maintenance

@satibel is your router set to forward UDP packets?

normally you'll choose udp or tcp when port forwarding

@djsmiley2k both, both is good.

both works too.

so did shields up show the port being open?

2:17 PM

@djsmiley2k I didn't put an exception on openvpn, so it should listen to any inbound traffic.

it says Stealth

So it's not responding at all

try setting openvpn to use tcp and try it again?

or maybe restart the router

wouldn't be the first time i've seen them requiring a reboot to get rules to kick in

the router was restarted 3 times already

and the http server uses tcp

so no tcp problem

Five Finger Death Punch - Wrong Side Of Heaven

This song, is amazing

also tried telnet

@djsmiley2k +1

but I'm pretty sure it's a song

-NO IT'S A SANDWITCH

@djsmiley2k yes, it is

2:22 PM

This Is Not a Song, It's a Sandwich + LYRICS [Official] by PSYCHOSTICK

I suffer from ptsd :/

@djsmiley2k from waking up and realising you are 30?

lol no

from years of mental and physical abuse.

heh, didn't expect that did you? :P

you chose to get married ;)

lol not that either

going in the right direction age wise tho

2:29 PM

i felt old this morning

i only got 3 or 4 hours sleep due to worrying about this 4LA thing at work

:/

bbc.co.uk/news/…

this is why we build brick houses.... heh

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(h/t MSE)

@djsmiley2k preschool teacher? ;p

2:44 PM

haha

@djsmiley2k my bad, it 's tcp that was in stealth, not udp.

yeah not sure you can test udp actually

as it doesn't expect a response

Oliver Salzburg

No "Happy Birthday @Sathya" on the wall?

What has this place come to?!

Happy Birthday @Sathya :)

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Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg YOU COMPLAIN. YET YOU NEVER ACTUALLY SAY IT SO WE CAN STAR!

nominates @OliverSalzburg for demodding

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Oliver Salzburg

Hah!

:D

2:57 PM

:(

Journeyman Geek

SO, do you feel oppressed?

Oliver Salzburg

Extremely!

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

$400 for a pair of ubiquiti pro APs

anyone here used one? :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob old workplace did

they're pretty nice

also, a bunch of the comms rooms folk like em

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Yes

We use those exclusively for events

And I have a UAC-Pro at home

AMA!

3:02 PM

how much can i pick up a UAC-Pro for @OliverSalzburg ?

and can i use it stand alone?

200 users?

errr yeah that's a bit over kill, me looks at the lite version

A bunch of techies should just get together and start an ISP which supports net neutrality if Trump's administration manages to get rid of it.

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 the incombants basically make it impossible.

Today's Darwin Award winner: wccftech.com/iphone-charging-kills-man-bathtub

Journeyman Geek

There's a few ISPs in UK like that tho

There's even one that's specifically aimed at movie studios

@bwDraco ah yes.

My favorite might be U+1F609 U+1F93F WINKING FACE VOMITING.

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3:07 PM

> The coroner states that he will detail his findings to Apple in an attempt to issue warnings to users about the hazards of using electrical equipment and accessories in compromising situations.

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Duh

Journeyman Geek

water + electronics bad

2

and if you're going to do it, respect tradition and use a toaster.

Oliver Salzburg

@djsmiley2k Check Amazon

@djsmiley2k Yes

Question for security.se? superuser.com/questions/1190516/…

3:10 PM

@bwDraco I was going to call shenanigans on 5V, but then I saw the bit about him having the actual 120/240V charger body on his chest...

good lord, you'd almost have to be trying to mess up that badly

@OliverSalzburg how is it? range, reliability? is your home large and open, or lots of walls?

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Best AP I've ever had

If I try em, I'd probably go with the lite ones... need 2 min to get decent coverage front and back

but I've got a decent asus one right now

Oliver Salzburg

Range is intense. My neighbor a couple houses over has same reception on my WiFi than on his own

RT-AC68U

technically I don't need more :P

@OliverSalzburg :O

how far is that in m?

Oliver Salzburg

I used to have 2 APs in my home, replaced them with 1 of the UniFi APs, covers the whole house and then some

@Bob About 50m I guess

3:13 PM

@OliverSalzburg oh, not quite that far then :P

ffs

'Our till crashes twice a day! - we reboot it and it does it again!'

/me checks uptime

205 days

-_-

@OliverSalzburg ideally I'd want some 35m coverage through several walls but that's a pipe dream

more practically I'd stick an extra AP for the last 20m and bypass some walls

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Well, "same reception" means, he's got 4/5 bars

@OliverSalzburg at the moment I'm getting like 0.5 bars in the garage. but radio signals don't like brick walls

hm

lite and pro coverage shouldn't be much different, I'd hope

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Honestly, I'd start with 1 of those APs. They are a lot more powerful than what I imagined

3:15 PM

looks like pro mostly gets 3x3 MIMO

If I could get coverage to reach my mother in laws house down the road...

@OliverSalzburg yea the decision is mainly $200 pro vs $100 lite

maybe start with a pro and expand with lite?

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob I've only worked with the Pro variant

@OliverSalzburg how do you manage it? dedicated hardware? or an app or summat?

Oliver Salzburg

I don't even really know the difference to be honest

@Bob They have this UniFi Controller application (Java)

3:16 PM

urk

hm

Oliver Salzburg

You use that on any device connected to the same network

apparently people have managed to install it on an rpi

I just so happen to have a spare one sitting on my network not doing anything... :P

Oliver Salzburg

Alternatively, they have this "Cloud Key" which is an embedded Linux PC thingie that runs the Controller software

Very neat for our use cases

Once you have configured it, you don't need the Controller anymore

Of course, you can also SSH into the thing and configure it raw :P

But I like the web UI

@OliverSalzburg I sometimes like to look at network stats :P

hm. not bad lowefamily.com.au/2016/06/02/…

eww mongodb

> UniFi Cloud access is not supported on ARMv6 devices

o.O

dammit. I have a first-gen rpi

hmmm. maybe next year

need to take the time and redo the network properly

Oliver Salzburg

Just FYI, when you're looking at UniFi-related materials, if you only have an AP, your dashboard is pretty boring

3:20 PM

maybe remove a layer of NAT -_-

Oliver Salzburg

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@OliverSalzburg EdgeRouter is the ... routing ... bit, yea? :P

Oliver Salzburg

A lot of the stuff where I went "Oh, that's neat" is only available if you really have a full setup of UniFi gear

@Bob Kinda, but those are not compatible with UniFi

ach.

Oliver Salzburg

Their Edge series is more heavy-duty and doesn't integrate into the UniFi ecosystem

The UniFi equivalent is the USG

3:22 PM

ah.

WARNING: If it worked that command would break Windows ... — DavidPostill 2 mins ago

lol

I hate when that happens

@OliverSalzburg thanks for the tip... looks like I might be skipping it for a bit at least till I can figure out which piece goes where :P

@Bob get an orange pi zero, it's 10 bucks

unifi-ap-ac-lr looks nice

@DavidPostill I'd almost suggest replacing that line with a screenshot to prevent shenanigans

btw that line as-is would probably do nothing unless you elevate

@satibel the whole point of putting it on the rpi would be to reuse hardware, not buy more hardware

I have plenty of spare processing power if I wanted to just chuck it in a VM

3:25 PM

@Bob He says in the question he's running bash as an Admin ...

unifi-ap-ac-lr - £100 here

Concidering I was looking at £70 for the 'fancy' netgears, these look far more professional

(tho I'd still have it in a cupboard prob...:/

it's on the list of nice things to have when one day i have money :(

@DavidPostill o.O

@djsmiley2k yea it's looking like 150 AUD here

@Bob then chuck it in a vm and use that rpi where it's gpio will be useful.

@satibel if i had somewhere I could use gpio, I'd have done it :(

like a christmas light

3:27 PM

but... yea. distinct lack of projects where it'd be useful

3d printer?

cnc?

clock?

programming arduinos?

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob I would highly recommend the APs. I'm still collecting experience with the remaining products in the line. We just bought a bunch of the other stuff and just had our first (very successful) deployment

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I'm building a wall!

@OliverSalzburg the biggest issue is I kinda bought that Asus AP less than a year ago :P

replacing it now seems a bit soon

@satibel that means buying more parts! :P

Oliver Salzburg

I was fed up with the shitty dual-AP setup at my place, just went for it and bought one of the Pros and it's like night and day :P

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not an 8-core ryzen, but plenty o' power for a permanent VM

3:34 PM

@Bob *scavenging old copiers.

Wunschpunsch (or Wounchpounch) is an animated series for children, inspired by the novel The Night of Wishes by Michael Ende. == Plot == In every episode, a wizard named Bubonic and his aunt, a witch named Tyrannia, must wreak havoc on the city in which they live or suffer a severe punishment from their supervisor, Maledictus T. Maggot. To be able to do so, they use an ancient magical parchment that, once utilized to activate a spell, said spell must be reversed within the next seven hours; otherwise, its effects will become permanent. To make sure the spells are reversed, Bubonic's and Tyrannia...

my switch is a pc with pfsense and 4 of these:

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and 2 of these

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wait. switch?

that smells more like router than switch :P

switch/ firewall

it acts as a switch

@Bob I've added an answer. Is my warning clear enough? ;p

3:40 PM

Much savage: medium.com/@davepell/this-is-37-3153b4138628#.iutmunqn5

Oliver Salzburg

A PC that acts as a switch? O__o

How much switching is going on at your place?

Journeyman Geek

More likely a firewall/router

especially if it does wifi

Oliver Salzburg

> And over here is my fibre backbone to which all the auxiliary switches in my home connect to.

@OliverSalzburg probably not much, 'cause a PC can't keep up with full hardware switches

there's a bunch of old carcasses.

3:41 PM

ASIC beats general-purpose CPU every time

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Good point

it's my lab

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I was toying with a PFsense box at some point

much more elegant setup tho

yea, PCs make sense as a (low-throughput) router

can handle up to 1Gbit

Journeyman Geek

yup

3:42 PM

if you want to push 10Gbit you might start running into trouble

but not as a switch, blech

much more effective as a router only, hooked into a hardware switch

Journeyman Geek

lol. gigabit swtiches are cheap

'course, if it works it works

it's most of the time 100mbps, because it does some tricks.

yea, it'd do fine for lightweight stuff, but not if you really wanted to push the bandwidth :P

like going a bit high in the application layer

3:44 PM

ya. so, router/firewall :P

but it doesn't connect multiple networks

o.O

hm. brexit is coming

good luck to the UKers in the room

come ot think of it, I think they're maybe the largest group in here these days o.O

layer 7 switch maybe x)

lol

that's taking managed switch to a new extreme

all we need now is a layer 8 'switch'

when your switch injects stuff in js files, what do you call it?

Oliver Salzburg

3:52 PM

@satibel "Not a switch"

^

the not a switch switch?

@Bob :-(

speaking of, you didn't head up to qld by any chance @TOWMN? youtube.com/watch?v=cW7oPxIpS1w&feature=youtu.be

@OliverSalzburg Eh, I had a PC acting as a pfsense router, which is far more common than just a switch, but er... yeah

@Bob No but I did get interviewed by some blonde woman from C9 news

Australia is far too big to explore in 10 days

3:55 PM

@TOWMN O_O

I shall come back and try again for 10 months

Not sure if I should apply for a visa now, or in 10 months time though. Need to check if the validity starts when it gets issued or when I first enter the country

@Bob Egads, every second I watch makes the guy seem even stupider

10 cups of goon.... and bragging to a girl? -_-

Oliver Salzburg

@TOWMN The last router I built myself ran on "one disk router"

though my not a switch switch behaves like a switch, it just might alter some data that goes to it.

Oliver Salzburg

Used to run from a single 1.44" floppy

@Bob even if you and I ran for mod in the next 4 hours, we still wouldn't have a primary :P

you, me and TOWMN would all have to run to get to 11 and have a primary

3:59 PM

"Most of the country thinks you're the stupidest person around right now, what's your response to that?"
"I'm not really"

@Bob... where do you find these people...

... narrowly escaped a darwin award that guy

I like running randomly through negative id users

chat.stackexchange.com/users/-42

Oh hey I can play the new Mass Effect Andromeda now

@TOWMN just a preview, wasn't it?

@Bob Well, full game for 10 hours

@TOWMN on telly last night was some female from edingburgh, via thailand, getting refused entry to Aus :O

4:02 PM

I want to see Clippy

@djsmiley2k Was she cute?

How do I see Clippy

...dammit. cbf looking up the regex right now

water + electronics => dead electronics, not too bad
water + mains electricity => dead person, very bad

How do I see Clippy?

Huh

:O

I wonder if Clippy has gone AWOL

4:03 PM

I want to see Clippy.

/(?:^|[.!?:]\s+)(?:(?:how\s+(?:can|do)\s+i)\s+([^?!.:]+)\?|(?:i(?:\s+want|(?:\s‌‌+am|'m)\s+(?:wanting|trying)|'d\s+like|\s+would\s+like)\s+to\s+([^?!.:]+)(?:$|\‌.|‌!)))/i

Clippy? WHY can't I see you?

I haven't seen him for a while

I want to know how to see Clippy.

I need help finding clippy?

4:04 PM

How do I summon Clippy?

Yep, that works for me ^

\o/

How do I summon Clippy?

@satibel ^ try saying one of those

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4:04 PM

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Bit late for that now...

@Bob lolol

we need to work on this timing thing :P

Great minds think alike?

So insurance company who repaired my phone did a botch job

Like everyone else

Why can't anyone repair a phone properly in this country?

> 0.3 Anti-explosion Tempered Glass Screen Protector Guard For Samsung Galaxy S5

Ermm I think you got some issues if you needing anti-explosion glass protectors for your phone

@TOWMN That's why they need the glass!

@TOWMN Does it work if the battery explodes? ;p

4:13 PM

Oh yeah I think my laptop bluescreened yesterday cause my SSD overheated

> Try Top Up today and get an extra £5 when you Top Up £100 or more.

Huh, 5% off Amazon

@Burgi Cold and wet, as always... hailstones today

> my laptop bluescreened yesterday cause my SSD overheated

wut.

@TOWMN are you back in a hostel?

Shouldn't SSDs throttle at high temperatures?

@Burgi Yup

are you looking for a house/job now or still hiding?

4:18 PM

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@Burgi Looking for an Australian visa

50-50 on whether to go now, or get a job and save for 10 months before going

I may or may not get paid more in Australia anyway

@TOWMN who is the girl next to @Bob?

@Burgi Last I checked that wasn't a fox

you never know...

@Burgi Don't you mean who is the fox(y girl) next to the wallaby? ;)

yeah of course i meant that! ;)

blackadder had a girl called "Bob"...

plus this is the 21st century

4:24 PM

I suppose her name could be Roberta ...

4:38 PM

OK who the frick built a bloody gherkin on my airport runway

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4:59 PM

ok so some idiot has actually put my email address in as their email on bank of america

i'm getting their statements

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